So, I read the OpenDoc article. What's a failed document-format-standard attempted by Apple in 1992 as a stab at Microsoft's Office products during a time period when Steve Jobs wasn't even associated with Apple have to do with "being Steved"?...or the current topic at all?
Well, I personally relocated all my coworkers workspaces to within 20 meters of my office. That way, we're all in the same timezone. The drawback, of course, is that I can no longer blame 15-hour turnarounds for the smallest questions on time-differences or language barriers. I have managed to downplay that drawback by using nerf-guns to instigate pseudo-warlike hostilities in nearby carbon-based lifeforms.
Seriously, a 15-hour latency seems like it would cost more than paying someone a first-world wage to be in the same timezone as you. The option I propose is 'consolidate locations'. If you've got one of those tight budgets, you could even ship yourself off to India. It'd be cheaper to live there, so you could even take a voluntary pay cut!
I don't usually play grammar nazi, but you made me laugh.
>...will only exasperate the problem...
Should be: ...will only exacerbate the problem...
From the entry on 'exasperate' in the Oxford American dictionary:
USAGE The verbs exasperate and exacerbate are sometimes confused. Exasperate, the more common of the two, means 'irritate or annoy to an extreme degree' (: He calls me three times a day asking for money. It's exasperating!). Exacerbate means 'increase the bitterness or severity of' ( | the star shortstop's loud self-congratulations only exacerbated his teammates' resentment).
I actually laughed out loud when I read the grammar nazi's post and your reply.
I was very disappointed by the poor quality of most of the "required" education that I received from Junior High through College. I had a very good elementary school. They actually encouraged us to read books, learn things, and join extra-curricular activities. Ironically, my grades in elementary school were horrible. Isn't it interesting that you can trade actual "learning" for "good grades" in school districts like mine?
I, for one, am not surprised. I never read __less__ books in my life than when I was in college. I was much too busy trying to get the course busy-work done to do any reading, or much learning for that matter.
The version of emacs that comes with OS X is both very old (I believe 21.2 was released in 2002) and will not connect to an X windows manager like Apple's X11.
Both of the versions I installed above would connect to X11 as well as work in a terminal.
> 500mhz is at least 8 year old technology if I remember correctly.
Close. When I bought a computer in Jan 1998 (8 years ago this month), the fastest processor available from Dell/Gateway was a PII-300. I'd say it's more 6-7 year-old tech.
I also use emacs for python..but a bit differently
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I also use emacs to write python on the mac, although I use emacs connected to X11. The initial reason was that you can tell X11 to pass all keyboard commands to the program, so that you can use the Apple/Command key as emacs's Meta key. You get the benefit of having the option to run the same version of emacs w/X11 or in the terminal (handy if you want to use your regular editor should you ever SSH into your own box remotely). The newer versions of emacs support various levels of integration with the python interpreter, CVS, and subversion, and more--if you're really looking for "IDE"-mentality, but I mostly use it as an editor. I'll let others elaborate on that functionality.
Just install Apple's X11 and developer tools, then either use fink to install an old stable version ("emacs" 21.2), or darwin ports to install a cutting-edge version ("emacs-devel", recent CVS snap [pre-release of 22]).
Other good editors I've seen [don't know about IDE's per-se] are subethaedit [free for noncommercial], bbedit [not free], and vim.
The article says RedHat had 36% revenue growth over 4 years. How does that equal 210% year-over-year growth? Am I missing something?
Or maybe Renaud drives people away. By flaming.
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So, if it does fork and the open source fork gets a lot of development that would mean of two things. Either the developer is understating the community involvement or he wasn't that good at drumming up interest in community involvement."
As it happened, they kept giving and the competition kept taking. The community didn't give back.
Well, that's one spin on it.
As I've mentioned before, a more reasonable view is that any serious potential contributors were driven away by Renaud's flamingly stupid threats and other rants. It's what prevented the company I worked at from becoming a contributor or participating in the so-called "community."
Only the beginning of their stunts...
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With stunts like this, would you trust Tenable to protect your network?
No.
As I've already mentioned, Renaud has never considered his project to be under the GPL. Oh sure, he knew it was under it, but flaming anyone and everyone that he suspected of "working at a company" or "using nessus for profit" or "doing anything that didn't meet Renaud's fancy" was not exactly uncommon.
The reason that there's not a serious community around nessus is Renaud.
I'll give you THE REASON why there wasn't much of a community around nessus:
Renaud
Yes, that's right. Renaud himself. Schizophrenic, anti-social, flaming Renaud. Let me illustrate:
A few years ago the company I worked for wanted to provide Nessus scanning as a service to people. The CEO himself wanted us to be good citizens in the OSS community (he was a techie before he got into management) so, not quite understanding the GPL, he personally sent an email to Renaud asking if it was ok to do such a thing. He basically got "ya, sure. just tell people that you use nessus" as a response. Of course, providing a service using stuff under the GPL is perfectly legal, regardless of whether or not you modify source code (which we never got around to doing anyway).
Fast-forward a few months. We're creating the service. We join the mailing lists and start asking a couple questions. Almost instantly Renaud flips out. To paraphrase: WHAT THE ____ DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING USING NESSUS? WHO THE ____ DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? COMPANIES CAN'T USE NESSUS TO PROVIDE SERVICES! ESPECIALLY IF YOU CHARGE FOR IT! SUPER-ESPECIALLY IF YOU MANAGE TO MAKE A PROFIT (and don't give us a large cut)
Ya, ok. Whatever. Renaud subsequently (in emails to our CEO) threatened legal action against us for things such as "using nessus." Legal improbabilities aside, that totally spooked management and alienated myself and the rest of the development team. Several of us have participated in other OSS projects through irc, mailing lists, forums, contributing patches, reporting bugs, etc. Such OSS participation is generally well-received. With nessus, not one of us who ever tried to participate in its "community" ever felt welcome in the least. To the contrary, every time we dipped our collective toe in nessus's pool, we came away with frostbite.
Renaud appears to have finally woken up to the legal ramifications of having put nessus under the GPL. Namely, he can't dictate what others can and can't do outside the confines of the license. If any of you are considering using nessus in the future, I highly recommend going through his license with a fine-tooth comb. When he sells out to SCO [so he can actually get his threats into the courts and the news], you will want to know how many of your vital organs, children, and relatives that they are going to go after.
Quicken doesn't have any features you couldn't get from a spreadsheet program. It just packages them in a more user-friendly manner.
User-friendliness isn't a feature? Hmmm...
Parent poster is... (choose one)
o a power-CLI user.
o a fan of Microsoft Products
o correct
o +1 Funny
o using Cowboy Neal's text-editor, notepad.exe, for financial tasks
o other, explain below...
I, for one, welcome our new...wait...that's odd. I thought I voted to _welcome_ the new hackable overlords, but it says here that I actually voted to boil them in oil. Weird.
And don't forget the requirement that the non-removable floppy drive on the specific hardware they certified was to be sealed shut with epoxy.
On a more personal note, I would stick epoxy in any available crevices on any given windowez box anyway, including those pesky "ventilation" holes. Keeps it nice, secure, and toasty.
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Four whole pages with pictures, and NO PICTURE OF THE TOWER?
I want my $0 back.
So, I read the OpenDoc article. What's a failed document-format-standard attempted by Apple in 1992 as a stab at Microsoft's Office products during a time period when Steve Jobs wasn't even associated with Apple have to do with "being Steved"? ...or the current topic at all?
Mod parent down.
Well, I personally relocated all my coworkers workspaces to within 20 meters of my office. That way, we're all in the same timezone. The drawback, of course, is that I can no longer blame 15-hour turnarounds for the smallest questions on time-differences or language barriers. I have managed to downplay that drawback by using nerf-guns to instigate pseudo-warlike hostilities in nearby carbon-based lifeforms.
Seriously, a 15-hour latency seems like it would cost more than paying someone a first-world wage to be in the same timezone as you. The option I propose is 'consolidate locations'. If you've got one of those tight budgets, you could even ship yourself off to India. It'd be cheaper to live there, so you could even take a voluntary pay cut!
> How do they plan on keeping fingerprints off the screen?
Easy. iRub the screen with iSleeve.
I don't usually play grammar nazi, but you made me laugh.
...will only exasperate the problem...
...will only exacerbate the problem...
>
Should be:
From the entry on 'exasperate' in the Oxford American dictionary:
USAGE The verbs exasperate and exacerbate are sometimes confused. Exasperate, the more common of the two, means 'irritate or annoy to an extreme degree' (: He calls me three times a day asking for money. It's exasperating!). Exacerbate means 'increase the bitterness or severity of' ( | the star shortstop's loud self-congratulations only exacerbated his teammates' resentment).
I actually laughed out loud when I read the grammar nazi's post and your reply. I was very disappointed by the poor quality of most of the "required" education that I received from Junior High through College. I had a very good elementary school. They actually encouraged us to read books, learn things, and join extra-curricular activities. Ironically, my grades in elementary school were horrible. Isn't it interesting that you can trade actual "learning" for "good grades" in school districts like mine?
I, for one, am not surprised. I never read __less__ books in my life than when I was in college. I was much too busy trying to get the course busy-work done to do any reading, or much learning for that matter.
...all MySQL are belong to us!
(Yes, it's a lame joke. But seriously, friends don't let friends expose their data...)
The version of emacs that comes with OS X is both very old (I believe 21.2 was released in 2002) and will not connect to an X windows manager like Apple's X11.
Both of the versions I installed above would connect to X11 as well as work in a terminal.
> 500mhz is at least 8 year old technology if I remember correctly.
Close. When I bought a computer in Jan 1998 (8 years ago this month), the fastest processor available from Dell/Gateway was a PII-300. I'd say it's more 6-7 year-old tech.
I also use emacs to write python on the mac, although I use emacs connected to X11. The initial reason was that you can tell X11 to pass all keyboard commands to the program, so that you can use the Apple/Command key as emacs's Meta key. You get the benefit of having the option to run the same version of emacs w/X11 or in the terminal (handy if you want to use your regular editor should you ever SSH into your own box remotely). The newer versions of emacs support various levels of integration with the python interpreter, CVS, and subversion, and more--if you're really looking for "IDE"-mentality, but I mostly use it as an editor. I'll let others elaborate on that functionality.
Just install Apple's X11 and developer tools, then either use fink to install an old stable version ("emacs" 21.2), or darwin ports to install a cutting-edge version ("emacs-devel", recent CVS snap [pre-release of 22]).
Other good editors I've seen [don't know about IDE's per-se] are subethaedit [free for noncommercial], bbedit [not free], and vim.
Ok, nevermind. The article with tons of text is confusing. The top-50 chart is where they got the big numbers from.
The article says RedHat had 36% revenue growth over 4 years. How does that equal 210% year-over-year growth? Am I missing something?
So, if it does fork and the open source fork gets a lot of development that would mean of two things. Either the developer is understating the community involvement or he wasn't that good at drumming up interest in community involvement."
Or, more likely, maybe Renaud personally discouraged community involvement.
I mean, seriously, how many of YOU like to be flamed by a project's evil dictator for trying to participate in the community?
As it happened, they kept giving and the competition kept taking. The community didn't give back.
Well, that's one spin on it.
As I've mentioned before, a more reasonable view is that any serious potential contributors were driven away by Renaud's flamingly stupid threats and other rants. It's what prevented the company I worked at from becoming a contributor or participating in the so-called "community."
From their indication that they haven't seen any significant help in six years, we can presume that the third possibility is unlikely
More like:
"Since Renaud tends to drive away potential contributors with legal threats, we can presume that significant contributions were successfully minimized."
With stunts like this, would you trust Tenable to protect your network?
No.
As I've already mentioned, Renaud has never considered his project to be under the GPL. Oh sure, he knew it was under it, but flaming anyone and everyone that he suspected of "working at a company" or "using nessus for profit" or "doing anything that didn't meet Renaud's fancy" was not exactly uncommon.
The reason that there's not a serious community around nessus is Renaud.
I'll give you THE REASON why there wasn't much of a community around nessus:
Renaud
Yes, that's right. Renaud himself. Schizophrenic, anti-social, flaming Renaud. Let me illustrate:
A few years ago the company I worked for wanted to provide Nessus scanning as a service to people. The CEO himself wanted us to be good citizens in the OSS community (he was a techie before he got into management) so, not quite understanding the GPL, he personally sent an email to Renaud asking if it was ok to do such a thing. He basically got "ya, sure. just tell people that you use nessus" as a response. Of course, providing a service using stuff under the GPL is perfectly legal, regardless of whether or not you modify source code (which we never got around to doing anyway).
Fast-forward a few months. We're creating the service. We join the mailing lists and start asking a couple questions. Almost instantly Renaud flips out. To paraphrase: WHAT THE ____ DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING USING NESSUS? WHO THE ____ DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? COMPANIES CAN'T USE NESSUS TO PROVIDE SERVICES! ESPECIALLY IF YOU CHARGE FOR IT! SUPER-ESPECIALLY IF YOU MANAGE TO MAKE A PROFIT (and don't give us a large cut)
Ya, ok. Whatever. Renaud subsequently (in emails to our CEO) threatened legal action against us for things such as "using nessus." Legal improbabilities aside, that totally spooked management and alienated myself and the rest of the development team. Several of us have participated in other OSS projects through irc, mailing lists, forums, contributing patches, reporting bugs, etc. Such OSS participation is generally well-received. With nessus, not one of us who ever tried to participate in its "community" ever felt welcome in the least. To the contrary, every time we dipped our collective toe in nessus's pool, we came away with frostbite.
Renaud appears to have finally woken up to the legal ramifications of having put nessus under the GPL. Namely, he can't dictate what others can and can't do outside the confines of the license. If any of you are considering using nessus in the future, I highly recommend going through his license with a fine-tooth comb. When he sells out to SCO [so he can actually get his threats into the courts and the news], you will want to know how many of your vital organs, children, and relatives that they are going to go after.
I say, GOOD RIDDANCE NESSUS.
Parent poster is... (choose one)
o a power-CLI user.
o a fan of Microsoft Products
o correct
o +1 Funny
o using Cowboy Neal's text-editor, notepad.exe, for financial tasks
o other, explain below...
I, for one, welcome our new...wait...that's odd. I thought I voted to _welcome_ the new hackable overlords, but it says here that I actually voted to boil them in oil. Weird.
And don't forget the requirement that the non-removable floppy drive on the specific hardware they certified was to be sealed shut with epoxy. On a more personal note, I would stick epoxy in any available crevices on any given windowez box anyway, including those pesky "ventilation" holes. Keeps it nice, secure, and toasty.
May 9, 1995
Good call. Rebooting a second time after the update fixed it. Apparently there's still some bugs left in Panther :)
Um, wierd. I just installed 10.3.9 on my 1.67GHz PB, and now in the finder under the network browser it shows:
...all of which appear to be empty, instead of the regular:
Applications
Library
Users
Local
Servers
WORKGROUP
Anyone know how to get the network browsing back to normal?
Ever tried Gmail notifier? (windoze only, unfortunately) It's not quite IM, but it notifies you as soon as an email shows up in your Gmail inbox.
Combine that with near-instant email transmission times, and my emailing tends to be very IM-like, especially with other Gmail users...
C'mon Google! GIM! Like AIM, only better!