The seagull mascot sucks. I know it's for educational use, but it still sucks. Too complex, too flippant, and just plain unprofessional. This is the same general problem with a lot of free software; image. It's not just the logo or mascot either, it's even the names. Case in point, "Windows Internet Explorer" with a clean 3D looking 'e' as it's logo. Compare to "Mozilla" with it's stupid dinosaur logo. Now, any idiot can guess what IE is and what it does simply by the name, and the logo is simple and translates cleanly even in black and white. Can the same be said for Mozilla? NO!! Same goes for The Gimp and host of other really great software. And don't even get me started on the KDE "Kandalf" help screen thing.
This is the same problem with a whole bunch of free Linux based software; compared to their Windows counterparts, their names, logos, and general lack of polish make them look like something cooked up by a bunch of social misfits, hell-bent on being obtuse and cryptic just for the sake of being 133t.
Dammit, just when you think ruling the planet is gonna be fun, somebody points out that it's already been done before. You know, now that I think of it, it seems like almost every civilized nation in the northern hemisphere has had it's glory days - a time when its power and influence touched everyone else on earth. Maybe it is simply the nature of things.
Oh well, just be thankful your rulers aren't the Romans again, now that was an empire! Although...just how much of the world does the Vatican still influence? Maybe the Roman empire still rules us today, only in such a way that we don't even realize it? Hmmm.
So you foreigners might not like the good old USA very much right now, but just count your blessings - it could be a lot worse. At least we try to only smite the bad guys.
is just part of our empire. Like it or not, the USA rules this planet, and we will continue to do as we like no matter what you colonists think. You other "countries" out there FRANCE might convince yourselves that you are sovereign, but the truth is that you are all our little puppets. No other country in history has posessed such global power over every aspect of life as the USA now does. Military, political, economic, hell the rest of the world even tries to imitate our fashion and entertainment despite the fact that we just might nuke your ass for looking at us the wrong way, biatch. In fact, it might be best if all of you just start referring to us as GOD, since that's about how much control we actually have over your pitiful lives.
The reason we don't want online gambling is because that's what seperates us from you. You see, to us, the rest of the world is a teeming mass of unwashed heathens, unable to govern themselves properly, differentiate right from wrong, or even bathe regularly. Therefore, if you think online gambling is OK, then it simply MUST be wrong, and we just can't have that. So go ahead and entertain your deviant vulgarisms, just don't expect us to join in on the sin orgy, ya bunch of uppity Eurotrash bastids.
It's not easy having a good time.
Even smiling makes my face ache.
And my children turn on me -
Rocky's behaving just the way that Eddie did.
Do you think I made a mistake -
Splitting his brain between the 2 of them?
Mandrake is responding to its user's wishes. If you don't like the way Mandrake does things, the good news is that there are several other distros to choose from. There's no need to rag on Mandrake for making this change - it's certainly more innovative and user friendly than what Redhat and Suse have done with their sales model. Remember, you can still download free Mandrake iso's and updates are still free too.
Debian is a bit of a change if you're coming from Redhat. But the fact is, Debian is FREE, it works on every platform, AND it's run by the community, not some money grubbing company. Figure out how to get it done with Debian and you won't ever need to switch distros again.
More people are realizing this since Redhat yanked the carpet out from under them, that's why Debian use is on the rise. I know that's why I switched.
In cast you didn't know, Mandrake is working on a version of Linux specifically for clustering, called "Clic", and has already released iso's. I have no idea how functional it is right now, but check out this link for more info.
OK, so someone has a problem with master/slave references? Forgive me if this has already been suggested, but why not just change the terms to white for master and black for slave? They're only colors, how could that possibly be offensive?
I want SCO news 24/7, day, nite, morning and evening. I wanna read about SCO on the back of my Wheaties box. Is there a SCO channel? Sign me up. What's happening in the SCO executive lounge bathroom now? I WANNA KNOW. I want a 27 way, split screen webcam view of anything and everything happening at SCO. Did someone mention SCO? Email me that quote right NOW dammit. I want my SCO-TV. YES YES YES give me more SCO news right away. I demand up-to-the-minute coverage all day, every day, of anything and everything even remotely related to SCO. Is there a SCO vs IBM Nintendo game yet? DAMMIT! Please post more SCO news now!
It depends on your kids. My kids are fortunately at the age where all they're interested in so far is looking at kid stuff, but that will change. I set up a box on my home network with squid and dansguardian which the kid's computer uses as a proxy server, so between that and my firewall, I can control fairly well what they have access to. At their age, they simply aren't ready to be hit with everything that's out there. Of course, I don't want or expect to hide everything from them forever, but at the same time I don't want to try explaining anal fisting to my 8 year old either.
It's a judgement call. You do what you can as a parent to insulate your child from things they aren't ready for, but as they grow up you'll eventually just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best.
The problem is, a supported product which was once there now is not. Whether or not it was a good business decision for Redhat doesn't make a shit to me or to Redhat's marooned SOHO users. You people need to stop with all the "it was a business decision" crap. Of course it was a business decision, idiots. The point is, what are people who were dependant on Redhat's consumer version to do?
Fortunately, I had the foresight to see this coming a year ago, so I abandoned Redhat way back then and went with Debian. But I feel pity for those that didn't know any better and continued to believe that Redhat would always be there. In fact, some folks I think still haven't quite come to grips with reality and think that Fedora is the answer. WAKE UP SOHO REDHAT USERS and switch to Debian now.
I, like many others I'm sure, started out with Redhat and learned a lot from it. I saw the writing on the wall though, when Redhat first announced it's "end of life" policy, and I began moving my servers to Debian. Now if I were a large company, then moving to RHEL would probably make sense. But we're just a small company that uses Linux for fileserving, mail, web, and firewall, and I'm geeky enough to run the same services on Linux boxes at home. For folks like me, "free as in beer" is just as important as "free as in speech". If there wasn't a free as in beer version of Linux available, then I probably would have never tried it, and I certainly wouldn't be using it as much as I am today, because I simply couldn't afford to.
I hope that Redhat has made the right decision here, but personally I think that if the Fedora project doesn't attract developers and become at least as viable to use as Debian, then it will hurt Redhat in the long run. I understand that offering Redhat for free download or in retail boxes didn't make money directly, but I think it should be looked at as advertising dollars well spent.
"Whatever the mainstream doesn't use is suddenly the most 3l33t and coveted tool. Because obviously OpenSSH is tainted by the touch of the mainstream individuals and now suddenly lsh is far superior. They need something to feel superior for."
"I myself use what works, and OpenSSH works. Mainstream or not, it's a damn fine tool, and I have no reason to migrate to another tool unless it provides me with advantages that supersede what OpenSSH can provide."
Thank you sir, for a what is the simplest, most accurate characterization I've read, the first part of which I feel describes an unfortunately large proportion of OSS users. And I agree with your position - I use what works for ME without regard to the l33t factor, and quite frankly without the "MS sucks" attitude so many Linux users seem to have. I choose Linux and mostly stick with a distro's default tools because they get the job done, not because I need a penis extension.
Geez, just run Debian or Mandrake. On Debian, make sure your apt sources point to Debian mirrors and then create this script:
#!/bin/sh # # This script tries to update all package sources, # check for updates, and mail the results to root #
# Set the path PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
# Get our hostname host=`hostname -s`
# Update the database, send output to null apt-get update >&/dev/null
# Check for available files. Say no to any installs # and mail the results to root echo no | apt-get -u upgrade | mail -s "Update status at ${host}" root
Make it executable, and then set it to run as a cron job every day before you get to work. Assuming you've aliased root to your own email address, you'll get a message telling you if there are updates available. If there are, then just log into the Debian box and run:
apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade
The same technique works well on Mandrake boxes using urpmi. Of course, you can also set the script to go ahead and install any updates, I just prefer to see them first. Either way, total cost = $0
It doesn't matter if SCO completely reverses their position, retracts everything they've said, and withdraws the lawsuits tomorrow. They cannot be allowed to just slink away and lick their wounds. The questions raised by this whole episode simply MUST be answered, and all doubts about the purity of OSS must be put to rest. If not, then GNU/Linux will be forever tainted and these demons will eventually come back to haunt us.
We've got to PROVE to the world clearly, once and for all, that GNU/Linux is everything we've said it is. How do we do that?
Instead of pouring money into fighting the Internet, the RIAA should be smart enough to figure out how to make it work for them. They must realize that they cannot continue to alienate customers in this manner.
I, for one, would be willing to pay for a service where I could download high quality sound files legally.
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The seagull mascot sucks. I know it's for educational use, but it still sucks. Too complex, too flippant, and just plain unprofessional. This is the same general problem with a lot of free software; image. It's not just the logo or mascot either, it's even the names. Case in point, "Windows Internet Explorer" with a clean 3D looking 'e' as it's logo. Compare to "Mozilla" with it's stupid dinosaur logo. Now, any idiot can guess what IE is and what it does simply by the name, and the logo is simple and translates cleanly even in black and white. Can the same be said for Mozilla? NO!! Same goes for The Gimp and host of other really great software. And don't even get me started on the KDE "Kandalf" help screen thing.
This is the same problem with a whole bunch of free Linux based software; compared to their Windows counterparts, their names, logos, and general lack of polish make them look like something cooked up by a bunch of social misfits, hell-bent on being obtuse and cryptic just for the sake of being 133t.
1. I love "eating" pussy as much as the next guy, but that made me cringe. 2. How the hell did the SCO story remind you of THAT?
Dammit, just when you think ruling the planet is gonna be fun, somebody points out that it's already been done before. You know, now that I think of it, it seems like almost every civilized nation in the northern hemisphere has had it's glory days - a time when its power and influence touched everyone else on earth. Maybe it is simply the nature of things.
Oh well, just be thankful your rulers aren't the Romans again, now that was an empire! Although...just how much of the world does the Vatican still influence? Maybe the Roman empire still rules us today, only in such a way that we don't even realize it? Hmmm.
So you foreigners might not like the good old USA very much right now, but just count your blessings - it could be a lot worse. At least we try to only smite the bad guys.
is just part of our empire. Like it or not, the USA rules this planet, and we will continue to do as we like no matter what you colonists think. You other "countries" out there FRANCE might convince yourselves that you are sovereign, but the truth is that you are all our little puppets. No other country in history has posessed such global power over every aspect of life as the USA now does. Military, political, economic, hell the rest of the world even tries to imitate our fashion and entertainment despite the fact that we just might nuke your ass for looking at us the wrong way, biatch. In fact, it might be best if all of you just start referring to us as GOD, since that's about how much control we actually have over your pitiful lives.
The reason we don't want online gambling is because that's what seperates us from you. You see, to us, the rest of the world is a teeming mass of unwashed heathens, unable to govern themselves properly, differentiate right from wrong, or even bathe regularly. Therefore, if you think online gambling is OK, then it simply MUST be wrong, and we just can't have that. So go ahead and entertain your deviant vulgarisms, just don't expect us to join in on the sin orgy, ya bunch of uppity Eurotrash bastids.
Darl McBride's cranium first. Lots of space there.
It's not easy having a good time. Even smiling makes my face ache. And my children turn on me - Rocky's behaving just the way that Eddie did. Do you think I made a mistake - Splitting his brain between the 2 of them?
Mandrake is responding to its user's wishes. If you don't like the way Mandrake does things, the good news is that there are several other distros to choose from. There's no need to rag on Mandrake for making this change - it's certainly more innovative and user friendly than what Redhat and Suse have done with their sales model. Remember, you can still download free Mandrake iso's and updates are still free too.
More people are realizing this since Redhat yanked the carpet out from under them, that's why Debian use is on the rise. I know that's why I switched.
In cast you didn't know, Mandrake is working on a version of Linux specifically for clustering, called "Clic", and has already released iso's. I have no idea how functional it is right now, but check out this link for more info.
To go along with their recent financial success, a win here would be absolutely huge for them.
OK, so someone has a problem with master/slave references? Forgive me if this has already been suggested, but why not just change the terms to white for master and black for slave? They're only colors, how could that possibly be offensive?
I want SCO news 24/7, day, nite, morning and evening. I wanna read about SCO on the back of my Wheaties box. Is there a SCO channel? Sign me up. What's happening in the SCO executive lounge bathroom now? I WANNA KNOW. I want a 27 way, split screen webcam view of anything and everything happening at SCO. Did someone mention SCO? Email me that quote right NOW dammit. I want my SCO-TV. YES YES YES give me more SCO news right away. I demand up-to-the-minute coverage all day, every day, of anything and everything even remotely related to SCO. Is there a SCO vs IBM Nintendo game yet? DAMMIT! Please post more SCO news now!
It's a judgement call. You do what you can as a parent to insulate your child from things they aren't ready for, but as they grow up you'll eventually just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best.
Fortunately, I had the foresight to see this coming a year ago, so I abandoned Redhat way back then and went with Debian. But I feel pity for those that didn't know any better and continued to believe that Redhat would always be there. In fact, some folks I think still haven't quite come to grips with reality and think that Fedora is the answer. WAKE UP SOHO REDHAT USERS and switch to Debian now.
I, like many others I'm sure, started out with Redhat and learned a lot from it. I saw the writing on the wall though, when Redhat first announced it's "end of life" policy, and I began moving my servers to Debian. Now if I were a large company, then moving to RHEL would probably make sense. But we're just a small company that uses Linux for fileserving, mail, web, and firewall, and I'm geeky enough to run the same services on Linux boxes at home. For folks like me, "free as in beer" is just as important as "free as in speech". If there wasn't a free as in beer version of Linux available, then I probably would have never tried it, and I certainly wouldn't be using it as much as I am today, because I simply couldn't afford to.
I hope that Redhat has made the right decision here, but personally I think that if the Fedora project doesn't attract developers and become at least as viable to use as Debian, then it will hurt Redhat in the long run. I understand that offering Redhat for free download or in retail boxes didn't make money directly, but I think it should be looked at as advertising dollars well spent.
Why not?
"Whatever the mainstream doesn't use is suddenly the most 3l33t and coveted tool. Because obviously OpenSSH is tainted by the touch of the mainstream individuals and now suddenly lsh is far superior. They need something to feel superior for."
"I myself use what works, and OpenSSH works. Mainstream or not, it's a damn fine tool, and I have no reason to migrate to another tool unless it provides me with advantages that supersede what OpenSSH can provide."
Thank you sir, for a what is the simplest, most accurate characterization I've read, the first part of which I feel describes an unfortunately large proportion of OSS users. And I agree with your position - I use what works for ME without regard to the l33t factor, and quite frankly without the "MS sucks" attitude so many Linux users seem to have. I choose Linux and mostly stick with a distro's default tools because they get the job done, not because I need a penis extension.
Geez, just run Debian or Mandrake. On Debian, make sure your apt sources point to Debian mirrors and then create this script:
/dev/null
#!/bin/sh
#
# This script tries to update all package sources,
# check for updates, and mail the results to root
#
# Set the path
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
# Get our hostname
host=`hostname -s`
# Update the database, send output to null
apt-get update >&
# Check for available files. Say no to any installs
# and mail the results to root
echo no | apt-get -u upgrade | mail -s "Update status at ${host}" root
Make it executable, and then set it to run as a cron job every day before you get to work. Assuming you've aliased root to your own email address, you'll get a message telling you if there are updates available. If there are, then just log into the Debian box and run:
apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade
The same technique works well on Mandrake boxes using urpmi. Of course, you can also set the script to go ahead and install any updates, I just prefer to see them first. Either way, total cost = $0
It doesn't matter if SCO completely reverses their position, retracts everything they've said, and withdraws the lawsuits tomorrow. They cannot be allowed to just slink away and lick their wounds. The questions raised by this whole episode simply MUST be answered, and all doubts about the purity of OSS must be put to rest. If not, then GNU/Linux will be forever tainted and these demons will eventually come back to haunt us. We've got to PROVE to the world clearly, once and for all, that GNU/Linux is everything we've said it is. How do we do that?
Instead of pouring money into fighting the Internet, the RIAA should be smart enough to figure out how to make it work for them. They must realize that they cannot continue to alienate customers in this manner. I, for one, would be willing to pay for a service where I could download high quality sound files legally.
People please - grow up. I can't imagine why any mature US citizen would give a rat's ass whether any of this crap is pirated or not. Why?
1. It's entertainment. If you're not entertained, then just don't look at it.
2. It's made in Japan. They've been copying everything WE've made for 50 years.
3. HELLO, it's a FRIGGIN' CARTOON. Jeez. Get off your butt and join reality.