And I'd rather have my game accessory be physically distinct from my PDA, because I'm usually playing the GBA in slow moments, when I may need to grab my PDA quickly for something work-related.
It's faster to fish around for/pull out a completely different device then to just hit the "home" button?
That's a little thing called editing, my friend. Just because they didn't film the entire jump in one continuous segment, and no doubt highly exaggerated the length of the flight, that doesn't mean it was a special effect!
I believe the parent poster just wanted to let everyone know there really are such things as wingsuits and that was real footage of two people flying in them. If you're already an expert on the subject, that's fine, you really didn't need to reply... of course, it's always a good idea to let everyone know how smart you are.
I think they can, and if they can't this device won't make it to marker- Sony is smarter than that.
The UMD format was likely made specifically to reduce the size of the CD drive. The screen and battery don't need to take any more room than they do on the GBASP (which ain't much). So, then you've got ports... ummm... which aren't very big, really.
I think you're underestimating what can be crammed inside a little plastic box these days. Take a look at an iPod or a super-small DV cam... I think it can be done, and I hope they pull it off.
Uhhhhh.... the screen isn't 16 by 9 inches! That's just the aspect ratio. Saying that it's 16x9 widescreen doesn't give any indication of the actual size of the screen - it could be a watch face for all we know.
(taking the flamebait, please don't mod me down too much. Sometimes it just feels sooooo good!)
Well...
We are working so that you can use the money you make to pay for your computer and internet connection so you can post assinine backwards-thinking comments like this on slashdot, you filthy, filthy troll.
If you want to live in the woods like an animal and eat food off of tees, be my guest. You won't be missed!
If not, get off your goddam high horse and try to be a useful member of society. It may be a capitalistic consumer-driven nightmare to someone so obviously enlightened as yourself, but it's the best thing we've got, and it won't get any better with people like you in it.
Amazingly, some people actually like purchasing their movies. Yeah, I know!
Granted, it sucks that most of the money I've spent on those movies has ended up in the pocket of some slimeball I would probably punch in the face before willingly giving money, but it still seems right, in way. More right than just taking the movies without giving any compensation to anybody, that's for sure.
Or, maybe I just like all those pretty keep cases...
Yeah, man! Um... it's been a while, but I think I remember the part in question. Though I'm not sure how many people you're really saving from spoilers- the sequel's on the way, and the game's old enough that whomever wanted to play it probably has already at this point.
But, yeah, that really suprised and shocked me. Even though you never really saw the people you were dealing with in that game, it was so well done that I think it was easier to get attached.
I think you have to ask this question of many other established forms of "art". What makes something "art"? I mean, most people consider litrature and (to a lesser degree) film as art, so why not games? You won't go to a gallery any time soon to look at any of this stuff- but that's a function of mechanics more than anything else. So, how do you define "art"?
The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
The study of these activities.
The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
From that definition, I would say video games qualify as easily as film, and possibly more so than literature =) At least some video games. At the very least, before doing any more critical analysis of whether or not games should be considered art, I urge you to play the game Rez. This game is a work of absolute genius, and is hands down the closest I've ever seen to what could be considered an interactive work of art.
Maybe for you, personally, there was no art involved, but you take out what you put into it. Sounds to me like you were treating it like a job treadmill, like anything else you might put your hands to that you consider having little value.
Games are art just like movies are art- while they may seem, on the surface, to be churned out for nothing other than the big bucks, there are actually a lot of people who put there hands on these games who really feel like they're creating something great. Not just the artists, either- as another poster said, programming is an art!
This has been the only game my girlfriend and I have ever really gotten into together. Like the parent says, it's not exactly cooperative, but turns are short, and if you're very much into the game, it's often as much fun, if not more, to watch your S/O play than to play yourself.
It's an incredibly addictive game that anyone can pick up and play, it's fun to watch, and the difficulty scales like you wouldn't believe.
I believe you should let people live the way they want to live without passing judgement. It was obvious from your original post that you think most people are slanted heavily in favor of gadgets. It was perhaps only implied that you frown on this trend. Find your own balance, as everyone does- but don't try to impose that personal balance on the populace at large- we each have our own, and I think we like it that way.
This, of course, goes threefold for the article's (nameless, I noticed) author.
Come on, you and the author of this article are completely hypocritical, end of story. You can't be sitting at a computer, writing a slashdot post or an article for a website about how you've discarded all your "useless" gadgetry. You've drawn an imaginary line between the technology you use and the technology you don't- citing the stuff you don't use as useless, and degrading/pitying anyone who does find it fun or useful.
If you really want to get rid of your Earthy distractions and focus on the importance of self-exploration, quit your job and become a monk- go all the way. Live off of nature, give away all of your possesions, and throw yourself at the mercy of fate. Until you do that, or level the downtown of your favorite city, you are nowhere near living the "Tyler" lifestyle that you imagine yourself living.
Or, go back to looking at naked geeks on the Internet and leave those of us who are comfortable with our lives alone!
PS: People who say "I can't live without X" don't really mean it...
You missed the category of people that will buy this (obviously, I guess, or you wouldn't have been asking):
Those that purchased a Palm or other PDA but then gave up on it because it's a pain to lug it around everywhere.
I personally fall into this category, but the price of this watch will certainly make me wait to see if the reviews are overwhelmingly positive- it seems like this thing wasn't thought out well enough, but I'd love to be proven wrong. I'm not too proud to look like a complete dork if the watch is cool enough =)
They'd do best to write it off, and start on thier next project. I, for one, am no longer looking forward to this game.
Hm. After a decade of wasted time, god only knows how much wasted money, and a serisouly pissed off publisher, I'm not so sure 3D Realms would get another chance to make a game if they pulled the plug at this point. Perhaps this is why they haven't?
Heh. The possibilities for some dirty, dirty fun with an interactive version of these comics are endless... but, could you actually make a game out of it? Fighting off evil insects? Helping cats in peril?
Seems like there are a lot of comics, actually, that have really cool concepts, but would be hard to translate into a game. Ironically, I think my favorite webcomic would be particularly difficult (though, if I recall correctly, somebody's already making a CTS side-scroller...)
In regards to the "multiple shock levels" - seems like this could be improved on quite a bit. The XBox has two independently-controlled servos, each with 16-bit variable vibration. In theory, you could have two separate shockers (one for each hand... or, uh, more creative, whatever), each with a range of shocks that correspond to the level of vibration the motor was told to use. That way, if you get hit harder in the game, you get shocked harder.
You know, if somebody, hypothetically, wanted to do this. =)
Seriously, you have more good points that I care to even try to refute. Doing so would be playing Devil's advocate even moreso than I was already doing- and the majority of what I would say I might not necessarily believe in.
Honestly, my feelings are that
And rather anti-competitive, don't you think? I mean if they include it as part of the OS distribution and integrate it into the overall OS, wouldn't that hinder the efforts of other companies that make competing software?
Is a valid point. Though I might choose to argue that with something like anti-virus software, the "best" will surely win out, even if something inferior is free and integrated. The first time a Windows user gets completely hosed by a virus that MSAnti-Virus doesn't catch, she's likely to switch to whatever her friend whose computer is A-ok was using to ward off the evil. But maybe not.
What got my flamebait guts a-churnin, I guess, was the following:
What if they made a Internet chat application, Internet web browser, Internet connection software and services, word processors, or even spreadsheet programs and integrated them into their operating system. Oh wait...
Okay, so maybe this is really tremendously funny and I have no sense of humor. But, if this is a serious statement, then I have some qualms with it. Only one of the applications mentioned above is actually integrated into Windows. (MSN + Messenger, I believe, can be uninstalled). So, I would disagree with the poster's implication that this is yet another thing MS is integrating into their OS- that's just not true!
As for the ole' browser war question (IE: to suck, or not to)... shrug. I will stand behind everything I said about IE, based on personal experience. Mozilla (I tried Pheonix, back when it was called that, too) has always been slower and less reliable (not crash-reliable, but show-the-page-in-the-way-I-expect reliable) for me, personally, every time I tried it out. And I do make an effort to try out a build every so often, to make sure I'm not missing out. Anyway, maybe that makes me a lamer, but I'm okay with that!:)
Oh, and, for the record, I wasn't going to use the "but more people use IE, so of course more vulnerabilities will be found!" excuse. I'm at least smarter than that...;) (paints bullseye on chest)
And... yeah, *chuckle*. I've had to have my server add extra parameters to a data stream before (&.dat) because IE was trying to render it as HTML.
Okay, okay, one thing: the perceived "bloat" in an IE download is often because of its integration into your OS- when you upgrade IE, you also must upgrade a lot of Windows components. You're packaging packages inside of packages, then, and you may only end up needing 10% of what's in there. This actually ends up helping the run-time bloat (in a way that you will probably argue) by having most of the guts of IE already needed by other OS components anyway- hence, fast startup times. The "bloat" I was referring to was all the extra crap (mail clients, news clients, chat clients, pr0n clients, whatever) that seems to come with most browsers.
Okay, still not a really legitimate claim, but I had to say something to not look like a total buffoon.
Err.. too late? Yeah, anyway, thanks for the info- if I had more energy, I'd take more of a hearty whack at some of it, but... eh. =)
Very true. But there are also advantages to at least having basic HTML rendering support built in to a fancy graphical OS. Also, a lot of the features of IE parallel nicely with what you'd like a file manager to do. I'm certainly not trying to say that code re-use is the #1 reason MS has integrated IE so tightly into Windows, but it may be part of it. And a good reason, too. IE is just a shell that runs explorer, after all
In any case, does having a particular browser welded into the OS make it any harder for a user to switch to a different browser? Would being able to uninstall IE make it any easier to switch to Mozilla? Why?
Simply not true, on both counts. (yours and the original parent)
What, exactly, is so bad about IE, other than the fact that it's not open source and you can't hack away at it to your heart's content? It's what most web pages were designed to be viewed under, it's perfectly stable (er... recent versions, anyway), and (above all) it's fast and unbloated.
The orignal poster was making purely false claims in order to "prove" some point about Microsoft taking over the world. I consider this "bashing". No, Office has not been integrated into Windows and probably never will be. Yes, there's a browser built into the OS- but, let me ask you Mr. Smart guy, if that browser wasn't integrated, how would Joe Put-Down-By-The-M$an Consumer find and download any alternative? You expect them to use wget and read HTML? Please! Do you expect Microsoft to ship Windows with every flavor of browser in existance pre-installed?
My point was that some people will use anything as an excuse to cry and moan about the Evil Corporation, even if they have to make stuff up.
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It's faster to fish around for/pull out a completely different device then to just hit the "home" button?
That's a little thing called editing, my friend. Just because they didn't film the entire jump in one continuous segment, and no doubt highly exaggerated the length of the flight, that doesn't mean it was a special effect!
I believe the parent poster just wanted to let everyone know there really are such things as wingsuits and that was real footage of two people flying in them. If you're already an expert on the subject, that's fine, you really didn't need to reply... of course, it's always a good idea to let everyone know how smart you are.
I think they can, and if they can't this device won't make it to marker- Sony is smarter than that.
The UMD format was likely made specifically to reduce the size of the CD drive. The screen and battery don't need to take any more room than they do on the GBASP (which ain't much). So, then you've got ports... ummm... which aren't very big, really.
I think you're underestimating what can be crammed inside a little plastic box these days. Take a look at an iPod or a super-small DV cam... I think it can be done, and I hope they pull it off.
Uhhhhh.... the screen isn't 16 by 9 inches! That's just the aspect ratio. Saying that it's 16x9 widescreen doesn't give any indication of the actual size of the screen - it could be a watch face for all we know.
(taking the flamebait, please don't mod me down too much. Sometimes it just feels sooooo good!)
Well...
We are working so that you can use the money you make to pay for your computer and internet connection so you can post assinine backwards-thinking comments like this on slashdot, you filthy, filthy troll.
If you want to live in the woods like an animal and eat food off of tees, be my guest. You won't be missed!
If not, get off your goddam high horse and try to be a useful member of society. It may be a capitalistic consumer-driven nightmare to someone so obviously enlightened as yourself, but it's the best thing we've got, and it won't get any better with people like you in it.
Ha. Ha. Ha.
Man, I never get sick of Microsoft jokes around here. Or, "oh, wait..." jokes. Oh, wait...
Amazingly, some people actually like purchasing their movies. Yeah, I know!
Granted, it sucks that most of the money I've spent on those movies has ended up in the pocket of some slimeball I would probably punch in the face before willingly giving money, but it still seems right, in way. More right than just taking the movies without giving any compensation to anybody, that's for sure.
Or, maybe I just like all those pretty keep cases...
Yeah, man! Um... it's been a while, but I think I remember the part in question. Though I'm not sure how many people you're really saving from spoilers- the sequel's on the way, and the game's old enough that whomever wanted to play it probably has already at this point.
But, yeah, that really suprised and shocked me. Even though you never really saw the people you were dealing with in that game, it was so well done that I think it was easier to get attached.
From dictionary.com:
- The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
- The study of these activities.
- The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
From that definition, I would say video games qualify as easily as film, and possibly more so than literature =) At least some video games. At the very least, before doing any more critical analysis of whether or not games should be considered art, I urge you to play the game Rez. This game is a work of absolute genius, and is hands down the closest I've ever seen to what could be considered an interactive work of art.Funny, yes. True, no!
Maybe for you, personally, there was no art involved, but you take out what you put into it. Sounds to me like you were treating it like a job treadmill, like anything else you might put your hands to that you consider having little value.
Games are art just like movies are art- while they may seem, on the surface, to be churned out for nothing other than the big bucks, there are actually a lot of people who put there hands on these games who really feel like they're creating something great. Not just the artists, either- as another poster said, programming is an art!
This has been the only game my girlfriend and I have ever really gotten into together. Like the parent says, it's not exactly cooperative, but turns are short, and if you're very much into the game, it's often as much fun, if not more, to watch your S/O play than to play yourself.
It's an incredibly addictive game that anyone can pick up and play, it's fun to watch, and the difficulty scales like you wouldn't believe.
I believe you should let people live the way they want to live without passing judgement. It was obvious from your original post that you think most people are slanted heavily in favor of gadgets. It was perhaps only implied that you frown on this trend. Find your own balance, as everyone does- but don't try to impose that personal balance on the populace at large- we each have our own, and I think we like it that way.
This, of course, goes threefold for the article's (nameless, I noticed) author.
Come on, you and the author of this article are completely hypocritical, end of story. You can't be sitting at a computer, writing a slashdot post or an article for a website about how you've discarded all your "useless" gadgetry. You've drawn an imaginary line between the technology you use and the technology you don't- citing the stuff you don't use as useless, and degrading/pitying anyone who does find it fun or useful.
If you really want to get rid of your Earthy distractions and focus on the importance of self-exploration, quit your job and become a monk- go all the way. Live off of nature, give away all of your possesions, and throw yourself at the mercy of fate. Until you do that, or level the downtown of your favorite city, you are nowhere near living the "Tyler" lifestyle that you imagine yourself living.
Or, go back to looking at naked geeks on the Internet and leave those of us who are comfortable with our lives alone!
PS: People who say "I can't live without X" don't really mean it...
- Those that purchased a Palm or other PDA but then gave up on it because it's a pain to lug it around everywhere.
I personally fall into this category, but the price of this watch will certainly make me wait to see if the reviews are overwhelmingly positive- it seems like this thing wasn't thought out well enough, but I'd love to be proven wrong. I'm not too proud to look like a complete dork if the watch is cool enough =)Heh. The possibilities for some dirty, dirty fun with an interactive version of these comics are endless... but, could you actually make a game out of it? Fighting off evil insects? Helping cats in peril?
Seems like there are a lot of comics, actually, that have really cool concepts, but would be hard to translate into a game. Ironically, I think my favorite webcomic would be particularly difficult (though, if I recall correctly, somebody's already making a CTS side-scroller...)
In regards to the "multiple shock levels" - seems like this could be improved on quite a bit. The XBox has two independently-controlled servos, each with 16-bit variable vibration. In theory, you could have two separate shockers (one for each hand... or, uh, more creative, whatever), each with a range of shocks that correspond to the level of vibration the motor was told to use. That way, if you get hit harder in the game, you get shocked harder.
You know, if somebody, hypothetically, wanted to do this. =)
*pop* <- Head explodes.
:)
;) (paints bullseye on chest)
Seriously, you have more good points that I care to even try to refute. Doing so would be playing Devil's advocate even moreso than I was already doing- and the majority of what I would say I might not necessarily believe in.
Honestly, my feelings are that
And rather anti-competitive, don't you think? I mean if they include it as part of the OS distribution and integrate it into the overall OS, wouldn't that hinder the efforts of other companies that make competing software?
Is a valid point. Though I might choose to argue that with something like anti-virus software, the "best" will surely win out, even if something inferior is free and integrated. The first time a Windows user gets completely hosed by a virus that MSAnti-Virus doesn't catch, she's likely to switch to whatever her friend whose computer is A-ok was using to ward off the evil. But maybe not.
What got my flamebait guts a-churnin, I guess, was the following:
What if they made a Internet chat application, Internet web browser, Internet connection software and services, word processors, or even spreadsheet programs and integrated them into their operating system. Oh wait...
Okay, so maybe this is really tremendously funny and I have no sense of humor. But, if this is a serious statement, then I have some qualms with it. Only one of the applications mentioned above is actually integrated into Windows. (MSN + Messenger, I believe, can be uninstalled). So, I would disagree with the poster's implication that this is yet another thing MS is integrating into their OS- that's just not true!
As for the ole' browser war question (IE: to suck, or not to)... shrug. I will stand behind everything I said about IE, based on personal experience. Mozilla (I tried Pheonix, back when it was called that, too) has always been slower and less reliable (not crash-reliable, but show-the-page-in-the-way-I-expect reliable) for me, personally, every time I tried it out. And I do make an effort to try out a build every so often, to make sure I'm not missing out. Anyway, maybe that makes me a lamer, but I'm okay with that!
Oh, and, for the record, I wasn't going to use the "but more people use IE, so of course more vulnerabilities will be found!" excuse. I'm at least smarter than that...
And... yeah, *chuckle*. I've had to have my server add extra parameters to a data stream before (&.dat) because IE was trying to render it as HTML.
Okay, okay, one thing: the perceived "bloat" in an IE download is often because of its integration into your OS- when you upgrade IE, you also must upgrade a lot of Windows components. You're packaging packages inside of packages, then, and you may only end up needing 10% of what's in there. This actually ends up helping the run-time bloat (in a way that you will probably argue) by having most of the guts of IE already needed by other OS components anyway- hence, fast startup times. The "bloat" I was referring to was all the extra crap (mail clients, news clients, chat clients, pr0n clients, whatever) that seems to come with most browsers.
Okay, still not a really legitimate claim, but I had to say something to not look like a total buffoon.
Err.. too late? Yeah, anyway, thanks for the info- if I had more energy, I'd take more of a hearty whack at some of it, but... eh. =)
Very true. But there are also advantages to at least having basic HTML rendering support built in to a fancy graphical OS. Also, a lot of the features of IE parallel nicely with what you'd like a file manager to do. I'm certainly not trying to say that code re-use is the #1 reason MS has integrated IE so tightly into Windows, but it may be part of it. And a good reason, too. IE is just a shell that runs explorer, after all
In any case, does having a particular browser welded into the OS make it any harder for a user to switch to a different browser? Would being able to uninstall IE make it any easier to switch to Mozilla? Why?
Sweet! You made my day!
Simply not true, on both counts. (yours and the original parent)
What, exactly, is so bad about IE, other than the fact that it's not open source and you can't hack away at it to your heart's content? It's what most web pages were designed to be viewed under, it's perfectly stable (er... recent versions, anyway), and (above all) it's fast and unbloated.
The orignal poster was making purely false claims in order to "prove" some point about Microsoft taking over the world. I consider this "bashing". No, Office has not been integrated into Windows and probably never will be. Yes, there's a browser built into the OS- but, let me ask you Mr. Smart guy, if that browser wasn't integrated, how would Joe Put-Down-By-The-M$an Consumer find and download any alternative? You expect them to use wget and read HTML? Please! Do you expect Microsoft to ship Windows with every flavor of browser in existance pre-installed?
My point was that some people will use anything as an excuse to cry and moan about the Evil Corporation, even if they have to make stuff up.
*Sigh*. How is the parent "Interesting". Oh, wait, it bashes Microsoft... nevermind!
Um, it's not. The original controller is, though. Yay reading!