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Palm OS Wristwatch

countach writes "Amazon are taking orders for a new Palm OS Wrist Watch. It has an infra-red port, touch screen, back-light, stylus and 2MB of RAM. Price is $US 295.00." Because sometimes you don't look nerdy enough ;)

242 comments

  1. Nice! by frieked · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're well on our way to becoming Dick Tracy :D

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  2. I don't think Fossil did their homework... by sweeney37 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So whoâ(TM)s the market? The guys who enjoy the nostalgia of the daily beatings, 0% chance that any girl would talk to them, and the smell of the inside of a locker, because they had a Casio CFX-40 Calculator Watch?

    Mike

    1. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by nilepoc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well this is the second or third attempt at this, and according to a wired article from a couple of months ago, they broke some of the major rules in watch design in making this. One, and they admitted it is a big one, was exceeding the (percieved by the public) height limitation of a watch case.

      I give it a couple of months at the most. Just like the last few designs. Palm sales are on the decline anyway, and I can't see a watch getting a better reception than some of really cool designs that are out now.

    2. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by gregfortune · · Score: 1

      I know that's supposed to be funny, but I've tried to repress those memories, thank you very much.

    3. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Jeez louise, that first year they came out (before the Math teachers were aware of their existance) was sweet. You could just blantantly be fiddling with your watch during a math test and no one would know what you were doing. By the next year they'd caught on.

      Are there any purists out their who don't allow calculators in math anymore? Last I checked almost all students use graphing calculators (wimps!)

    4. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by FatRatBastard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are there any purists out their who don't allow calculators in math anymore? Last I checked almost all students use graphing calculators (wimps!)

      I didn't when I was teaching college algebra at my Uni. The only time calculators were allowed were when we got to the section on logs. I figured it was a nice comprimise from having to look values up from log tables.

      I have no problem with caluculators per se, but they shouldn't be used when teaching fundamental mathematics. Learn it the hard way first, so you actually understand what's going on, then use a calculator for actual applied work.

    5. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A real geek would have a HP calc watch.

      Girls look at your feet more than they look at your watch anyway.

    6. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Uart · · Score: 1

      I LOVED my casio calc. watch, damned if that wasn't the best damn thing I ever strapped to my wrist.

      I also love my TI-83plus.

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    7. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Uart · · Score: 1

      I have no problem with caluculators per se, but they shouldn't be used when teaching fundamental mathematics. Learn it the hard way first, so you actually understand what's going on, then use a calculator for actual applied work.

      So you are saying that you can't understand math if you use a calculator? I would say that it would be easier to learn, or at least grade math when calculators are used. Think about it; if what you are really after is getting your students to understand the concepts, then why dissallow calculators that prevent them from getting incorrect answers from arithmatic errors ('oops, forgot to carry the 2' or some shit).

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    8. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by luugi · · Score: 0, Troll

      I guess the homework was good enough to be posted on slashdot. Amazon and whoever gave the reference for that amazon link are very happy right now.

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    9. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Li0n · · Score: 1

      because they come to depend on them to do simple arithmetic. If someone can't manage simple arithmetic chances are he will have a more difficult time with more complicated things. Not that they are directly related though. It's just that letting students depend on calculators for everything makes them lazy.

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    10. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well... At least some people with nerdy-looking watches [alanwatch.homestead.com] are getting sex...

    11. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Requiem · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You forget simple things. I can still do long division - but barely.

    12. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Uart · · Score: 1

      I conceed the point. I still love my TI-83 though. Shame i won't be using it too much anymore. I am an english major and I just finished Calc 2 last semester, so I am done with math classes for a while.

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    13. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by FatRatBastard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So you are saying that you can't understand math if you use a calculator?

      Nope. I say that the learning process is better if you learn how to do it first without a calculator.

      I would say that it would be easier to learn, or at least grade math when calculators are used.

      And I'd say (snarkily) that you've never taught math.

      Think about it; if what you are really after is getting your students to understand the concepts, then why dissallow calculators that prevent them from getting incorrect answers from arithmatic errors ('oops, forgot to carry the 2' or some shit).

      The point of learning something is to master it. In the grand scheme of things learning the fundamentals of math and futzing up an answer here or there due to an arithmetic error is exponentially better than *not* knowing fundaments and relying on your calculator for everything. Teaching math also means teaching how to think logically, how to understand the underlying principals so you can apply them to other situations than the ones presented in your homework.

      For instance I also taught calculus. Whole chapters were devoted to graphing equations using maxima, minima and inflection points. Now, some kids wanted to use their graphing calculator to come up with the answers (and undoubtedly did when they did their homework), but they screwed themselves in the long run. Why? Because the point of graphing 40 equations wasn't to make pretty pictures, it was to drill the student in taking first and second derivatives, finding local maxima and minima, etc. Those who took the easy way out using their calculators were royally fucked when in the next section you had to apply those newly taught skills to solve minimization problems.

    14. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by bozojoe · · Score: 1

      Long division? Whats that?

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    15. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Mark+Pitman · · Score: 1

      I agree with you and would add that in the past when I had taken math tests, if you showed your work on the paper and got something wrong because you messed up doing some basic stuff like carrying the 1, the instructor would give you partial credit if you did everything else right (or sometimes even full credit).

    16. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by TedTschopp · · Score: 1

      You know that you can do the Square Root function by hand.

      Ted Tschopp

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    17. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Alan · · Score: 1

      Another thing is that if you know how to do "simple" arithmatic in your head, you'll have a better chance of seeing if something is wrong when you plug numbers into your calculator. Even if it's not exact, the idea that "33 doesn't go into 90 27.2727272 times" will help you when doing the more complicated stuff.

    18. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by jhylkema · · Score: 1

      You "conceed" the point about simple "arithmatic" and you're an English major?!? Jeesh!

    19. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by larien · · Score: 1
      I remember forgetting my calculator in an accountancy exam. I had to do net present value calculations by hand; for those that don't know, it's something like adding the totals of:

      0.917431 x 15000
      0.841680 x 25750
      0.772183 x 35000
      0.708425 x 32500
      0.649931 x 10000

      I still got a good mark in the exam because I did remember how to do long multiplication. I could probably still do long division at a push.

      These days, I despair at what people resort to a calculator for...

    20. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by pompousjerk · · Score: 1

      Use it to play games in the middle of the lecture. :D

    21. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Uart · · Score: 1

      Get over it. I said I was an English major, not a spelling major. I don't proofread my slashdot posts.

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    22. Re:I don't think Fossil did their homework... by Uart · · Score: 1

      that obviously came to mind, but its kind of hard to justify whipping out a calculator in the middle of a lecture on Percy Bysshe Shelley.

      Now, if it were a lecture on Lord Byron, perhaps I could justify it as a homage to his daughter, Ada. Even that would be a stretch though.

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  3. Calculator Watches by svenjob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How many /. readers wear calculator watches. I haven't seen 'normal' people wearing thos ein years! I wonder if it'll catch on again with these?

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    1. Re:Calculator Watches by uunh+haun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I just bought a casio wave ceptor. Not only does it have a calculator, but it recieves the time via radio waves. So I know exactly when it is 12:21:17, 11:21:25, 11:21:32....

    2. Re:Calculator Watches by ip_free · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Try Casio Easy Rec. It is a calculator watch. It also records up to 30 secons of sound. KOOL.

    3. Re:Calculator Watches by British · · Score: 1

      I miss my Casio phonebook/calculator watch(back from 1991). Imagine my delight when I was able to put in names/phone numbers AND do calculations!

      I also remember the el-cheapo watches that had + and = on the same key, making it useless for longer equations. Casio was ahead of the game by making + and = independent. They just added buttons on the side to facilitate input.

      Those watches were USEFUL! I also remember my Nelsonic Pac Man watch from 1982 or so. That was fun.

    4. Re:Calculator Watches by b_pretender · · Score: 1
      I looked at all of the different views of the watch on Amazon.com and NONE of the views showed it telling the time. An organizer, calendar, and contacts are nice for a watch, but WHAT TIME IS IT??? Make it in great big numbers in the middle so I don't have to squint my eyes.


      That's fine with me, though, since telling time is the ONLY thing that my cell phone is good at (with its eternally poor reception). It has a nice bright color screen (in a place of where extra battery life or an antenna might have gone) that tells what time it is.

    5. Re:Calculator Watches by wo1verin3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      1) Go to this url
      2) Click on 'Watch It In Action' (love the pun)

  4. heh by ed.han · · Score: 1

    and here i was thinking "jeez, that's so 1984..."

  5. How many beatings by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    will it take before this madness is stopped?!

    Won't someone think of the (geeky) children?

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    1. Re:How many beatings by thogard · · Score: 1

      The maddness has just started.

      According to Fossil, there will be a MSN Direct one in just a few months.

      They have a flash demo of the palm os one if you just can't wait to play with one.

    2. Re:How many beatings by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      IBM, please finish the Linux wristwatch before MS releases this, just to get some competition out there!

  6. I like the features... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    but, can it tell time? :P

  7. Precarious? by mgcsinc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I already have a dandy of a time just keeping the crystal of my little Seiko from getting scratched up, how am I gonna manage to keep a touch screen safe on my wrist? Not to mention incidental pushing of the on-screen buttons. I know these are relativly logistical concerns, but these things could prove annoying...

    1. Re:Precarious? by jpellino · · Score: 4, Funny

      Um, yeah - like 'accidentally' getting 12,000+ copies of an appointment from repetitive hand motions...

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    2. Re:Precarious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you should stop scheduling your masturbation sessions, because that's just sad.

    3. Re:Precarious? by beee · · Score: 5, Informative

      This was exactly my reaction too -- I'm very interested to see how Palm handled this, if they handled it at all.

      I've had a part in developing a few touchscreen devices and this was a problem our group ran to as well (our hardware was going to be situated in high-traffic areas and geared towards kids, who would no doubt put it through the ringer).

      Touchscreens work by sensing not only your "x" and "y" position on the screen, but most of them now also have what's called the "z-loc" (or z-pin depending on the hardware manufac.), and it's basically a way to sense where someone has gently pushed their finger onto the surface. It's calculated using the same sensors, but it reports many less false-positives because it only detects when someone makes a motion "downwards" towards the screen.

      The problem I can see is that when the surface of the monitor (or in this case, watch) becomes irregular, the z-pin stuff has trouble picking up actual signals, and sometimes sits there reporting signals constantly. It relies on the regularity of the surface of the device. Considering watches' ability to become scratched up (ever tried doing hardware upgrades on a Compaq desktop machine with a watch on? ;), I'm very interested to see how Palm prevented this from happening. If they haven't accounted for it, you could see a massive return-rate because your watch thinks you're opening your address book 24/7.

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    4. Re:Precarious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like anyone here would last 12,000+ strokes?

    5. Re:Precarious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >but these things could prove annoying...

      Look, its just another piece of unneccessary consumer electronics. You know its either going to be broken, obselete or out of fashion this time next year, so don't worry about it.

    6. Re:Precarious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Palmy: âoeIt looks like you are trying to masturbate. Would you like directions to the nearest tissues?â

    7. Re:Precarious? by mustangsal · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's No Accident!

      Why do you think it runs Palm OS?

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    8. Re:Precarious? by ipxodi · · Score: 2, Informative

      I had one of the Casio Touch-screen Calculator watches.
      It worked for several years -- was great for figuring out tips, etc. But, much like I expect with this Palm watch, it only took a couple of years for the screen to get scratched. Accidentally "pushing" buttons on the watch was a non-issue -- it didn't rely on pressure, but on the conductivity of your finger. You couldn't use a pen, etc to press buttons. The Palmwatch, I expect WILL be pressure sensitive like a regular PDA.

      I still have the watch -- I'd love to wear it again as a conversation piece, but I don't know what type of battery it took. Anyone know?
      (The manual is long gone.)

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    9. Re:Precarious? by nharmon · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm very interested to see how Palm handled this, if they handled it at all.

      By making it cost $295, I think they've pretty much convinced the user to not abuse it. :)

    10. Re:Precarious? by sporty · · Score: 1

      Have a lock mode, like on your cell.

      Have the user make a giant X to lock and unlock it. SHouldn't be hard for the os to pick up :P

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    11. Re:Precarious? by LandGator · · Score: 1

      Try plastic polish from an auto parts store, originally designed to clear scratches off the cover over the speedometer.

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    12. Re:Precarious? by GrenDel+Fuego · · Score: 1

      At that point, I think the watch would begin to grow hair. ;)

    13. Re:Precarious? by 3waygeek · · Score: 1

      Seeing as it's a Casio, it'll probably be a CR2016 or CR2032. Every Casio I've ever had (including a touchscreen different from the one you link to) uses one of these. They're standard coin cells, available in any Target/WalMart/drug store/etc. for a few dollars.

      Note that these are the same batteries many motherboards use to power the clock chip; if you have an old mobo sitting around collecting dust, you might be able to grab a battery from it.

    14. Re:Precarious? by Mittens · · Score: 1

      Maybe they could have some sort of lock function on it when it's not being used ;)

    15. Re:Precarious? by Aliencow · · Score: 1

      That's why I own a Marchese Di Genin Andromeda... Tungsten powered ! The Spaceman 2000 one is almost all tungsten. Apart from lil' scratches on the side of the band, it still looks brand new! BLING BLING!

    16. Re:Precarious? by ipxodi · · Score: 1

      Hey, Thanks! I'll give it a try!

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  8. Price bump? by greenfly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one that remembered them quoting $149 for this watch back last fall when slashdot did the original story on it?

    It could simply have been a mixup on the part of whoever submitted the story, since their old pda watches (non-Palm) were $149, but still, I got my hopes up until I saw the $300 price tag.

    1. Re:Price bump? by mhore · · Score: 1

      I don't know about $149 (I can't remember), but the price HAS gone up quite a bit, yeah.

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    2. Re:Price bump? by forged · · Score: 1

      On the same topic but different technology, the Casio Satellite Navi (a/k/a PAT2GP, GPS wristwatch) is on sale at $199. Mine is still working like a charm one year after, the only noticeable problems are the scratches if you're a tad careless, and the software provided that is really outdated.

    3. Re:Price bump? by shekondar · · Score: 1

      Do they really think anybody's going to pay ~$300 for one of these?? Fossil tried selling a PocketPC watch (didn't really run PocketPC, but could transfer contacts & appointments to a PPC) -- these are now selling for $39.00 (link). BTW, the PocketPC watch wasn't a touchscreen - it used a joystick/buttons.

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    4. Re:Price bump? by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Yep. Those watches had a 8 bit Epson processor in them and were SLOW AS MO-LASS-ASS and did not have enough memory to dump a whole PPC worth of Data into it. I'll have to check it out. Also, these were made out of plastic versus metal. Fossil doesn't really make great watches in my opinion. They are a bit better than timex and a little sillier(girlie colors and cartoon characters).

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    5. Re:Price bump? by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

      Not really much of a price bump. There are two product lines for the Palm watch: Fossil and Abacus. The plastic "sport" version of the Abacus brand is only $169.

      I've pre-ordered that one. I'll probably try the wrist thing for a while, but I can see popping off the band and going for a pocket watch kind of effect. Shopping lists and other utilities that I use on the Palm now, but don't always take advantage of when I dont' want to carry around.

      While it's a big watch, it's much more pocketable than the current full size Palms, but with the same 160x160 screen

    6. Re:Price bump? by kgp · · Score: 1

      They will be selling this watch for $199 later in the year but not under the Fossil brand.

      Look for Abacus Watches

      And my personal gripes:

      1. No bluetooth

      2. No Mac support (theough you never know it might just work with Palm Desktop).

  9. Name not good... by jkrise · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can Palm make a Wrist product? They should prolly change the name of the OS to Wrist OS or something...

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    1. Re:Name not good... by butterbarrel · · Score: 1

      Doesn't their software also run the RigiScan?

    2. Re:Name not good... by Horny+Smurf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, doesn't it use an ARM processor?

    3. Re:Name not good... by Surak · · Score: 1

      For some reason, I don't think it's a good idea for 'palm' and 'wrist' to be in same sentence on Slashdot. Not sure why....

    4. Re:Name not good... by MasonMcD · · Score: 1

      I think using StrongARM allows the entire appendage, up to, and including the wrist and palm.

    5. Re:Name not good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's a motorola z80 or something like that, prolly runs between 33-50mhz

      I believe an ARM architecture would be pretty useless with such a small screen.

    6. Re:Name not good... by Horny+Smurf · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind thinkgeek sells a flashlight that you jerk off to power up.

    7. Re:Name not good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Had you looked at the Amazon page you would have noticed that Fossil is the maker of the watch, it just runs the Palm OS.

    8. Re:Name not good... by cens0r · · Score: 1

      the z80 was a zilog processor... is motorola manufacturing them now? I though TI was doing it.

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    9. Re:Name not good... by worst_name_ever · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but in Thumb mode.

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    10. Re:Name not good... by Uart · · Score: 1

      An article like this has a better chance here than on, for example, Fark.com, where the vast majority of replies would consist of "fap fap fap", "this is hard to fap to", and "i'd hit it... twice"...

      At least a solid 70% of Slashdot readers notice that this is a technology story and proceed to remenisce and/or discuss technical specs.

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    11. Re:Name not good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it's a dragon BALL

      (and if I were a dragon, I know I'd be pissed if I only had one ball)

    12. Re:Name not good... by mrseigen · · Score: 1

      *groan*

      Won't someone think of the children?

  10. This watch will change everything... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... when they do the Pulp Fiction remake in 5 years.

    Just imagine the scene between the army dad and the dead guy's son - "I kept this watch up my ass for 5 years - and I have the photos to prove it!".

    1. Re:This watch will change everything... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "... is that a polyp?"

  11. Fossil? by CXI · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who came up with that name? I can see it now:

    "What, you're still wearing that old Fossil? Get with the times, man!"

    1. Re:Fossil? by Gibble · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well the company is nearly 20 years old, it's not like this name is something new...

      http://www.fossil.com/CompanyInfo/CompanyHistory .a sp?id=History

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    2. Re:Fossil? by stuntpope · · Score: 1

      Never stepped into a department store in the last few decades? Fossil's niche was/is retro designs (1950's mostly, I believe), so yes, the name was a reflection on that they _weren't_ with the times (and therefore, with the times, as in "hip to be square").

      <sarcasm>
      BTW, I hear there's some watch these days with the crazy name of Swatch. Wonder what the heck that means?
      </sarcasm>

  12. Why is it so ugly? by rkz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009QR9X.01.LZ ZZZZZZ.jpg
    Would you wear one of these? Its huge and the screen looks like it escaped from the 1980's.
    There have been watches that allow syncing with PIMs for years (equally ugly). The MS SPOT watches look more interesting with their GRPS internet connectivity.
    In this day and age they could have used OLED technology to make the face colour and themeable, so you could download nice different facias off the net when you felt like a change.

    1. Re:Why is it so ugly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


      It says "Fossil" on it, dude. Do you expect it's style to be current?

    2. Re:Why is it so ugly? by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 1

      Why is it so ugly?

      'cos it's made by Fossil. It seems PALM has entered the "Let's put a clock on that toaster" era of it's business...

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    3. Re:Why is it so ugly? by RevAaron · · Score: 3, Informative

      MS SPOT watches with GRPS internet connectivity? I may have missed something, but the articles I've seen about the new MS SPOT watches have nothign to do with GRPS. They get their data via the FM band, and it is one way. That is, the SPOT watch can recieve information about weather, stocks, etc, but it's not two way and it ain't GRPS. Story here.

      Do you have any photos of these? None of the stories I read had any photos, just words.

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    4. Re:Why is it so ugly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugly? You must be in your 30's. The watch is actually very now (there few other criteria for contemporary beauty than how current it is -- new stuff always looks bad to old people), as the 80's aesthetic is making an aggressive comeback, especially among hipster kids (i work with buckets of them) and people in the creative industry. See Trucker Caps, wrist bands, tight pants, Pumas, North Stars, GTA3VC, trailer chic. Remember: you only have to wait 15 years for something to be edgy again, and 20 for it to be mainstream in some modified version of the original. I have a Fossil watch from 1996 that has the old red led elements that come on only when you press a button -- reminicent of the first digital watches in the 70's.

    5. Re:Why is it so ugly? by evilempireinc · · Score: 1

      They have some pictures, as well as a flash demo at the MS SPOT page

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    6. Re:Why is it so ugly? by prwood · · Score: 1

      No kidding!! I just measured it on the screen - that thing has a diameter of 6 inches! It would only fit me if I wore it around both wrists. But the screen sure is easy to read!

    7. Re:Why is it so ugly? by milkman_matt · · Score: 1
      No kidding!! I just measured it on the screen - that thing has a diameter of 6 inches! It would only fit me if I wore it around both wrists. But the screen sure is easy to read!

      I'm just going to start wearing a clock around my neck like Flava' Flav.

      -matt

  13. Hmm... by xdistak · · Score: 1

    I wonder if this would be compatible with Bluetooth for an even more personal area network.

  14. I think Fossil DID their homework... by jpellino · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and they're funded by a VC firm made up entirely of optometrists. The flash demo on the Amazon site is at least 1.5x actual size - so we'll all be going blind in record time. Trifocals not included.

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    1. Re:I think Fossil DID their homework... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why you have to add the optical resolution enhancer (aka magnifying glass) and the illumination kit (aka flashlight) to see it in all lighting conditions...

    2. Re:I think Fossil DID their homework... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully this will wash away the stench of failure from these venture vulturesâ(TM) last endeavor: the rather crappy âoeBiclops,â the first and only comic book sponsored by lenscrafters.

    3. Re:I think Fossil DID their homework... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and they're funded by a VC firm made up entirely of optometrists. The flash demo on the Amazon site is at least 1.5x actual size - so we'll all be going blind in record time. Trifocals not included.

      Computer vision syndrome increases among geeks
      N S RAMNATH
      [ SUNDAY, JUNE 08, 2003 12:16:47 AM ]
      A recent study has found that computer scientists find it very difficult to concentrate on any off-screen objects, and âoeeven the faces of their loved onesâ can cause eye strain among them.

      Researchers suggest that this could be because of the added stress of needing to âoemake senseâ of a third dimension after focusing on two-dimensional objects for hours on end...

      Actually, this is just a joke doing its rounds among software engineers â" concocted in all probability by a techie on a quick coffee break after endless hours of writing codes or fixing bugs. And in all probablity, this techie too suffers from an increasingly malicious problem called the computer vision syndrome.

      Medical practioners say that computer vision syndrome is becoming increasingly common among computer users, especially those who spend a lot of time in front of their monitors or video display terminals (VDTs).

      Dr Mohan Rajan, medical director, Rajan Eye Care Hospital, a leading Chennai-based tertiary centre treating eye disorders recounts that when his institute conducted an eye checkup for around 1,000 software engineers from Infosys, it found about 750 of them had âoedry eyeâ problem.

      âoeThis is not a problem with the software engineers at Infosys alone, but spread across almost all IT companies,â he said. And itâ(TM)s the nature of an IT professionalâ(TM)s job that leads to this problem.

      Dr Amar Agarwal, director, Dr Agarwalâ(TM)s Group of Eye Hospital, another leading centre in Chennai, points out that VDT users tend to have a very fixed posture â" this means that the distance between the computer user and the VDT, and the direction of the gaze remain the same for long periods causing the entire upper body to remain in a fixed position for a long time.

      Since the muscles in the eye donâ(TM)t get much opportunity to move, it causes visual and ocular discomfort. The other possible reasons for computer vision syndrome could be lack of image clarity, glare from reflections and lights, having to concentrate on work, not blinking or resting the eyes and uncorrected visual defects, Agarwal said.

      Rajan explains: âoeNormally we blink 15 times in a minute. But while working on computers, the blink rate comes down to 5 times a minute, resulting in the evaporation of fluids on the eye. This results in dry eye. For some, this may lead to severe headaches and in extreme cases even to depression.â

      Other symptoms of CVS, besides dry eyes, include: tired eyes, eyestrain, sore eyes, periodic blurred near vision, occasional blurred distance vision, slowness in changing the focus of your eyes, red eyes, burning eyes, contact lens discomfort, changes in color perception, glare sensitivity, excessive neck, shoulder and back pain.

      A quick survey of IT firms by ET showed that the companies are yet to treat computer vision syndrome as a serious issue. However, many software engineers are aware of the âoeeye strainâ caused by prolonged exposure to VDTs, if not about CVS itself. âoeI remember seeing a mail from my friend about CVS.

      I forgot most of it, except that it said it is better to take your eyes off your monitor once in a while and blink,â a software engineer said. That, doctors feel, will do in most of the cases.

      âoeThe obvious solution to stillness is to move. One should take micropauses and focus on distant objects at regular intervals,â says Agarwal.

      Rajan agrees. âoeWe suggest a formula 20:20:20 to IT professionals. Every 20 minutes, for 20 seconds, blink 20 times,â he advises.

      Besides, he said, the posi

    4. Re:I think Fossil DID their homework... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this modded "Informative"? I don't think the poster's serious, guys...

  15. See? by sporty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    See what happens if you get a watch designer to make a computer watch? You get a good asthetic design.

    I hate the hybdrid device indusustry where one company thinks they can do "both" really well. It's prolly why a lot of pda phones fail. Pair up with Samsun or nokia and get a phone good design, work with MS or Palm to get a good software interface on there.

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    1. Re:See? by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 1

      I'm personally impartial to my Danger smartphone. It's not Palm OS or Windows CE, but it has a kickass microbrowser and over-the-air synchronization of contacts, calendar, etc. It does AIM (I wish it did YIM or MSMIM or Jabber), and has a nice email client. The best part about it is the nice big (much bigger than the thumbkeyboards on Palms) thumbkeyboard that is revealed when you swivel the display. Best of all, there's no touch screen to break and no stylus to lose.

    2. Re:See? by DivideByZero · · Score: 1

      work with MS or Palm to get a good software interface on there.

      I hate to dissapoint you, but Stinger isn't doing so well on the software front.

    3. Re:See? by sporty · · Score: 1

      Not disappointed.. but I was thinking of WinCE or whatever they call it now. If it's stinger.. ok.. palm os then.

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    4. Re:See? by ancukiewiczd · · Score: 1

      Pocket PC phones, although large, can run a huge amount of software---and yes, they can play Vorbis. Stinger is meant to be more of a small smartphone OS than a PDA phone OS; that's what Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition is for.

  16. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If youâ(TM)ve longed for a PDA with a graffiti area the size of a pixel, your wish has come true!

  17. Why? by PhysicsGenius · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have a Palm and I love it. However, when I use it, I rarely think to myself "if only I could be holding my arm awkwardly up to my face right now, life would be perfect". Likewise, it is only infrequently that I moan over how much extra screen real estate my Palm has. Since these two things seem to be the only problems that the Palm Watch solves, why would I want to spend $300 on it?

    1. Re:Why? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      I know this is sarcastic, but here's a reason: It's on your wrist, and it's your watch, so you're more likely to keep it with you, and you don't have to lug^H^H^Hcarry a PDA around.

  18. Cool idea, lousy implementation by dschuetz · · Score: 5, Informative

    While I'm usually an all-out advocate of PalmOS and am generally happy to see new and different offerings, I can't help but think that this is a bad idea.

    First, the reviews I've seen (based on earlier versions) showed this to be really big and clunky. I know it can be hip to be square, but this might be pushing the limits a bit.

    It's pretty expensive, especially considering what you can get in a full-out PDA for the price.

    It will take a little getting used to for regular Palm users, as it deviates a little bit from some of the standard interface widgets (no icons for "home," for example -- you just "back out" of whatever program you're in). Plus, it'll be tough to do many things on such a small screen (but, again, this is a new approach).

    Finally, from what I've read (including on the Fossil site), it won't synchronize directly with a computer. You have to load up special software on an existing Palm, and then use that software to sync selected data from your handheld to the watch (via IR). I suppose that someone might be able to hack together a CPU-based IR sync system, but that should be standard equipment.

    I'll be interested to see where this goes, but I'm frankly a little disappointed, especially with regards to synchronization -- I think that'll be the biggest complaint (right before how big the thing is).

    1. Re:Cool idea, lousy implementation by Mr.+McGibby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Finally, from what I've read (including on the Fossil site), it won't synchronize directly with a computer. You have to load up special software on an existing Palm, and then use that software to sync selected data from your handheld to the watch (via IR). I suppose that someone might be able to hack together a CPU-based IR sync system, but that should be standard equipment.

      WRONG (from amazon):

      How do I synchronize a Wrist PDA with a PC?
      Included with the Wrist PDA is the HotSync Pod, which enables you to synchronize information between your Wrist PDA and your PC. Connect the cable from the HotSync Pod to the port on the back of the watch when recharging, or to perform a HotSync operation. You will initially need to install some software.

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    2. Re:Cool idea, lousy implementation by dschuetz · · Score: 1

      (re: not being able to sync with a PC)

      How do I synchronize a Wrist PDA with a PC?
      Included with the Wrist PDA is the HotSync Pod, which enables you to synchronize information between your Wrist PDA and your PC.


      Okay, this looks like a new development, and is obviously pretty welcome. Thanks for noticing that. :)

      So now we're back to size being the big issue -- both in terms of bulkiness and in terms of screen real estate.

      Incidentally, it looks like the battery is expected to last only 4 days! (based on 30 minutes of use a day). I'd want it running 24x7, with a clock face or somesuch on it. After all, it's probably meant to replace your wristwatch.

    3. Re:Cool idea, lousy implementation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are wrong. It does synchronize directly. Check out the manual:
      http://images.amazon.com/media/i3d/01/MAN UAL000001 653.pdf

      It has a hotsync port on the back of the watch

    4. Re:Cool idea, lousy implementation by fastdecade · · Score: 1

      You want a clock that runs 24x7 ? What next, a hi-fi that plays music?

  19. Dupe by the_consumer · · Score: 1, Informative
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    1. Re:Dupe by EyesWideOpen · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not really a dupe but an update to an older story. The original announced that the watch would be out in the spring and this article is announcing that the watch is now available.

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  20. More choices by Traa · · Score: 3, Informative

    So Fossil offers us a Palm based wristwatch. We already all knew about the Linux based wristwatch from IBM right. What the Slashdot crowd really needs to know is that the Microsoft/MSN based wristwatch will be here this fall. :-)

    ok, so maybe not as breakthrough as to deserve any attantion, it does look to offer IM through Microsoftâ(TM)s dynamic new Smart Personal Objects Technology platform.

    1. Re:More choices by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      And, you forgot the onHandPC at http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/5a1a/, and the various Casio DataBank watches (I'm looking at the color E-DataBank at http://www.casio.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products .detail&catalog=Watches&section=E%2DDataBank&produ ct=EDB700DA%2D2V... they've also got a color camera watch now.)

  21. I would have sworn that I just saw a news article in the past couple of weeks stating that the launch of these had been delayed until late this year...

    Now where did I see that article?

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    1. Re:Huh? by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      Ah, here it is.

      Of course there is a follow up story a few days later that cancelled out the original story, but I knew I had seen that...

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  22. i do by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I alternate between a classic Casio calculator and my Seiko kinetic.

    The LCD on my Casio doesn't work so well anymore, and it makes me sad.

    Is anyone still producing calculator watches? Where can I get a new one?

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    1. Re:i do by damiangerous · · Score: 1
      Is anyone still producing calculator watches? Where can I get a new one?

      Just about everyone? Try, oh, any large retail store where you would normally buy a watch. In the US Target and Wal-Mart for example. Casio databanks are about $40.

    2. Re:i do by mrseigen · · Score: 1

      The databanks are pretty spiffy, also, I think Casio just released a watch with a miniature digicam that takes small JPG images and connects through USB. It was a couple hundred at my local $BIG_EVIL_RETAIL_GIANT.

    3. Re:i do by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      They released it a year or two ago, along with a super-databank watch and a GPS watch that are also about the same price.

    4. Re:i do by Kupo · · Score: 1

      > Is anyone still producing calculator watches? Where can I get a new one? Last I looked for watches, my local Walmart had 2 different models, and I'm sure any local modern watch store would carry one... If not, online stores are your friends. YMMV *shrug*

  23. Who will buy this? by Mr_Silver · · Score: 2, Insightful
    • Those that already have a Palm probably carry it around already.
    • Those that don't have a Palm probably don't see the need.
    • Those that want a Palm probably have a nice enough watch as it is.
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    1. Re:Who will buy this? by CheeseMonkey · · Score: 1
      You missed the category of people that will buy this (obviously, I guess, or you wouldn't have been asking):

      • Those that purchased a Palm or other PDA but then gave up on it because it's a pain to lug it around everywhere.
      I personally fall into this category, but the price of this watch will certainly make me wait to see if the reviews are overwhelmingly positive- it seems like this thing wasn't thought out well enough, but I'd love to be proven wrong. I'm not too proud to look like a complete dork if the watch is cool enough =)
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    2. Re:Who will buy this? by Mr_Silver · · Score: 1
      Those that purchased a Palm or other PDA but then gave up on it because it's a pain to lug it around everywhere

      Check out the Tungstun T. A workmate has one and it's small and light enough to slip into his shirt pocket.

      For me, the watch is a little too dorky and small :o)

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  24. When even *that* is not geeky enough by gregfortune · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It gets even worse... When wearing an organizer on your wrist isn't geeky enough, try this. Just take a look at one of those in store. They are *huge*!!!

  25. Who cares about Palm OS? by xYoni69x · · Score: 2, Informative

    A nerd-watch that I would really consider buying is the LAKS watch.

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  26. And it comes in three models ... by powerlord · · Score: 2, Funny

    including "Sport". ... As if people Geeky enough to buy this would be into sports.

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    1. Re:And it comes in three models ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, comes in three styles.

      Ugly, ugly and, ugly

    2. Re:And it comes in three models ... by stuntpope · · Score: 1

      Well, there are always palm sports ;) Fits well (pun intended?) with the geek image.

  27. Water proof? by kyoko21 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this watch waterproof? The screen is touch-screen, but where do you put the stylus? Does it have a stylus? I hate to loose the stylus underwater.

    There is nothing like checking my list of contacts and to-do list (never know when you need reminding of stopping by at the local hardware store after a day of underwater welding) and picking up a few daily necessities, like some Doritos...mmmmm.

    1. Re:Water proof? by wizzy403 · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is *NOT* waterproof. Check the FAQ section of the PDF on Amazon's site for more details. It is not waterproof, not water reisitant, and should not be allowed to get wet or damp. *sigh*

    2. Re:Water proof? by Surak · · Score: 1

      Dude? You buy your Dorito's at a hardware store????

    3. Re:Water proof? by |_uke · · Score: 1

      Ever visit a Fry's Electronics store?

      They are like, walmart for electronics... Also happen to carry various non electronic items like some food stuffs.

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    4. Re:Water proof? by kyoko21 · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I just checked out that PDF, and man, that is really too bad you can't even get it damp. I also realized how short of a battery life this is. For only having 4 days of battery life, I sure hope Fossil figures out how to integrate a perpetual motion watch with a PDA and then maybe we won't have to worry about ever having to charge it every 4 days. Hahaha :-)

    5. Re:Water proof? by Surak · · Score: 1

      Fry's is rather regional to the American Southwest and Northern California. There are no Fry's anywhere else in the country, like for instance, where I am (Michigan). So no. I think I might have drove past one in San Francisco when I was there a couple of years ago.

    6. Re:Water proof? by 3waygeek · · Score: 1

      There have been rumors that Fry's is going to expand beyond the West Coast; I've heard they might be coming to Atlanta in the next year or two. Haven't heard anything about your part of the country, though.

      There's always Outpost.com (formerly Cyberian Outpost), which Fry's bought a year or two ago. However, it's a best a very poor simulation of the true Fry's experience.

  28. Tech news article by damiangerous · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's another article on it. Apparently Microsoft will be introducing a competing product soon.

  29. Accessories by Cappy+Red · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sheesh. Super-ultra-retro-nerdy. They're even giving a choice of accessories with every purchase:

    1) Yellow super dectective hat
    2) Pocket protector and sliderule with matching taped glasses.
    3) Official James Bond "nuclear watch" tuxedo
    4) Rubber stamp that says "I just bought a $300 watch and only got 2 megs of RAM!" It even comes with a guide to forehead application.

    *honk*

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    1. Re:Accessories by taxwork · · Score: 1

      I will be king of the hill when i walk into work with my: 1) Yellow super dectective hat 2) Pocket protector and sliderule with matching taped glasses. 3) Official James Bond "nuclear watch" tuxedo 4) Rubber stamp that says "I just bought a $300 watch and only got 2 megs of RAM!" It even comes with a guide to forehead application. They will all be impressed, they might let me eat in the same area of the cafeteria!

    2. Re:Accessories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, in my case, a 2Mb "Date Book" is enough for a lifetime...

  30. Future directions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think this is a clear indication that the era of headband computing promises a future of universal terrycloth data access and sweat protection.

  31. but does it tell time? by tuffy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I might need a second watch for that...

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  32. Who needs a watch? by Flamecoach · · Score: 1

    My cellphone tells time. My computer tells time. My deskphone tells time. My car tells time. The PDA I already have tells time. What do I need a watch for? Is it so I can have yet another time-telling device that that doesn't agree with the others?

    1. Re:Who needs a watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think its time you got a life!

      Your cellphone tells you to get a life...

      Your computer tells you to get a life...

      Your deskphone tells you to get a life...

      Your car tells you to get a life...

      Your PDA tells you to get a life...

      Might as well get the watch, then. Sounds like you need all the positive reinforcement you can get!

  33. cheaper version of the same watch for $179 by Giant+Killer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fossil licensed this technology, but Abacus makes a cheaper version for $179. Not quite as cool looking, but quite a bit less money to shell out.

    1. Re:cheaper version of the same watch for $179 by jgaynor · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Not quite as cool looking

      They also have another model that looks (basically) exactly the same as the fossil one for $199. Its in this months Maxim or stuff or some generic mens non-boobies magazine. And yes, this was advertised last year for like $149. Way to double the price on us Fossil :(.

    2. Re:cheaper version of the same watch for $179 by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      "Cool looking"? Exactly what about the $300 version is "cool looking"? I wouldn't be caught dead with one of these, not even at a Star Trek convention.

    3. Re:cheaper version of the same watch for $179 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abacus is a cheaper brand name subsidiary of Fossil. Fossil developed the technology, and then released it under different brand names for different prices (and different markets). See the initial press release http://www.nexgear.com/front.php?tid=150

  34. battery life is 4 days!! by geeklawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    wow thats useful. My digital watch hasnt had a battery change since I bought it 2 years ago.
    info

    pass...

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    1. Re:battery life is 4 days!! by Vreejack · · Score: 1

      4 days. That is awful.

      My main reason for wanting one was that it was impossible to lose, but if I have to mount it to a recharger every day (insurance) then I'm sure to leave it behind in some hotel room in Crete or Turkey one day.

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    2. Re:battery life is 4 days!! by edrugtrader · · Score: 0, Troll

      Average battery life: Approx. 4 days (Based on an average use of 30 minutes per day, with backlight set OFF. The battery life varies depending on the temperature and conditions of use.)

      why would you want to use the backlight anyways. personally, once it gets dark outside, thats a sign for me to go sleep and get ready for buffalo hunting in the morning when the sun god arises.

      i wonder if anyone on the design team realized that some people never take their watch off and don't want to be burdened with recharging it every single day?!

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    3. Re:battery life is 4 days!! by frankie · · Score: 1
      My digital watch hasnt had a battery change since I bought it 2 years ago.

      Bah. My watch will never need a battery change.

  35. Too bad for us lefties by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 2, Informative

    Once again, lefties are left without usable controls. The watch is designed to be worn on the left hand, operated with the right hand. Lefties wear their watch on the right hand, typically. Anyone know if they're making them left-hand oriented as well?

    1. Re:Too bad for us lefties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article does say that they do not currently offer a left-hand version.

      That's a deal-killer for me (although I'm not sure I would get one anyway).

    2. Re:Too bad for us lefties by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 1

      The article does say that they do not currently offer a left-hand version.

      It'd probably take a redesign of the circuit board in order to get the controls on the other side of the watch. I guess it's not as easy as it sounds. Oh well!

  36. I can't help but think.... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

    ...why does it only have a nearly microscopic time display.

    I mean seriously, the primary function of a wristwatch will always be to tell you the time, why couldn't they have a nice full-face digital or (better even) analog style time display?

    1. Re:I can't help but think.... by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

      OK nevermind. Maybe they could show an image or two of the watch face designs rather than only give the fact that it had them a one-line mention at the end of the tech specs.

    2. Re:I can't help but think.... by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      It runs Palm OS on a Dragonball. Shouldn't be hard to modify BigClock or one of the other Palm OS clock apps to run on it.

  37. Umm, not impressed. by Pionar · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the specs:

    Average battery life: Approx. 4 days (Based on an average use of 30 minutes per day, with backlight set OFF. The battery life varies depending on the temperature and conditions of use.)

    So, in other words, it has a 2-hr battery. So much for using it on a long road trip. Do they expect me to plug it into a cigarette lighter? I can just see the headline now:

    DUMBASS CRASHES CAR

    Keeps watch on during recharging; can't turn left.

    1. Re:Umm, not impressed. by Uart · · Score: 1

      good point. Who only uses their watch for 30 minutes per day? Hell I only look at my watch every 30 minutes or so. The idea of combining two products (watch & PDA/Phone & PDA, etc) ceases to be a good one when the addition of the second product to the first causes the first to become largely unusable.

      Its a cool idea, but I need a watc I can wear all day. Well, actually I don't wear a watch at all, I just look at the clock in my cell phone, which keeps its charge for days at a time! ha!

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    2. Re:Umm, not impressed. by isorox · · Score: 2, Funny



      DUMBASS CRASHES CAR


      Keeps watch on during recharging; can't turn left.


      Translation for Right Hand Drivers in the UK, Australia and Japan:


      DUMBASS CRASHES CAR


      Keeps watch on during recharging; can't turn right.

    3. Re:Umm, not impressed. by Fascist+Christ · · Score: 1

      DUMBASS CRASHES CAR
      Keeps watch on during recharging; can't turn left.

      Easy solution: move to NJ. Many people are amazed at how many intersections in the Great Garden State forbid left turns.

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    4. Re:Umm, not impressed. by Richy_T · · Score: 1
      Actually, since most people wear their watch on their left wrist and the left arm of UK drivers will be on the left near the power adapter, it might not be such an issue :)

      Rich

  38. The Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want him in the games... give him a Palm wristwatch, train him for the games, then blow him away.

    End of line.

  39. sheesh... by ravenousbugblatter · · Score: 1

    Does it come with a free pocket protector? But seriously, I guess this would be nice if you were just after an easy way to carry addresses and appointments. But the real question is of course - does it support Bejeweled?

  40. Hmm... by mhore · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the categorie of "why bother"... I bet that Linux will run on this. I imagine that in such a small package, the screen is controlled by the cpu's onboard lcd controller? The seems to be the major obstacle. It would have run just fine on my Palm IIIc if PicoGUI had a driver for the LCD controller that ships with that model (or if I had time to write a driver for them).

    PicoGUI and Linux will run in this kind of situation (devices such as this and Palm IIIxe). In 2 MB, I'm not sure what exactly you'd accomplish except establish "wow" factor, but it'd be neat to try one afternoon.

    Mike.

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  41. Were do I put the stylus? by Harald+Paulsen · · Score: 1

    I don't wanna know. No really, I don't.

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  42. Another Amazon Door-Opener? by mykepredko · · Score: 1

    Interesting product, I don't think I'll ever buy one (I have a Kyocera smartphone and the integration of a Palm Pilot to a cel phone seems to be a much more likely combination than a Pilot to a watch), but I'm sure I'll take a look at Amazon.com periodically to see what people think of it. It will also get him some free press when the product is reviewed and discussed.

    And, thinking of this device as well as the Segway, I wonder if this is why Bezos is supporting these "out there" products. Many people will just click in to take a look at it to find out more while it may cost him some money in supporting the designers/manufacturers, but it's advertising for him that shows up in various magazines and newspapers (I'll bet it shows up on the front page of the Wall Street Journal) that he just can't pay for. This is, by the way, the worst case; the best case is that the product sells and with Amazon as the recognized retailer, megabucks can be made.

    Either way, Bezos wins and gets more people to Amazon.com. It's this kind of thinking that makes Jeff Bezos worth more than the entire collective /. community.

    myke

  43. A very silly device by DrXym · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I own a Palm and I love it but what the hell is the point of this? It's too small to be a proper PDA, too chunky to be a normal watch and you need to recharge it every four days! Excuse me, but I prefer my slim conventional watch which has a battery life measuring in years.


    It's not like you can't get organiser watches from the likes of Casio for much if you want that kind of thing, and I bet they last considerably longer than this. Come to think of it, why not just buy a Palm Zire for $120 and buy a really nice watch with the change?

  44. A Better Idea by umrgregg · · Score: 3, Funny


    Duct tape and an iPod; slap it on your wrist. Hey, at least it will be sexier.

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  45. Hmmm... by manduwok · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Amazon are taking orders for a new Palm OS Wrist Watch.

    Amazon also claims that "All your orders are belong to us."

  46. Sheesh, RTFA! by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not really a Palm if you wear it on your wrist!

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    1. Re:Sheesh, RTFA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well - close enough to a Palm - you can strap the wristband round your dick and rub it up and down with your... palm.

    2. Re:Sheesh, RTFA! by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Hmm... should I get Sport, Leather, or Metal? I'm thinking Leather, because Sport wouldn't fit right, and Metal... YOW!

  47. They change with the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least Fossilâ(TM)s watch features a beatdown icon (the one that looks like a geek with a dented skull) that uses GPS to direct you to the nearest cranial-facial surgeon. And the stylus is specially designed to pick a lock from the inside of a locker.

  48. Timely watch article by TheAncientHacker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gee, this was only announced 30 weeks ago at Comdex Fall. Perhaps a watch article could be on time?

  49. Licencees by 75bhp · · Score: 1
    Here is a listing of licencees' products as per the PalmSource website.

    Fuuunnnnkkkyyyy.....

  50. Resolution by SCHecklerX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why didn't they use an lcd like the Clie', only at the smaller size? That way it could actually run all native 160x160 resolution apps on the small screen. As it is, I don't think many palm apps will even run on this thing :(

    1. Re:Resolution by isaac · · Score: 2, Informative
      Why didn't they use an lcd like the Clie', only at the smaller size? That way it could actually run all native 160x160 resolution apps on the small screen. As it is, I don't think many palm apps will even run on this thing :(

      This watch does have a 160x160 screen. The reason you only see 4 big icons on the home screen is that the built-in apps have been customized to use larger icons and fonts. Other apps will run without modification in 160x160 mode.

      -Isaac

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  51. Mod Parent Up by mekkab · · Score: 1

    This is why I stopped wearing a watch. I don't need it. Not only does my cell phone tell time, but I can zap Outlook calendar appointments to it (either from the IRDA on my laptop or from my Visor) and have it vibrate (ringing in meetings or movies will get you SHOT) to tell me when I have to do something.

    I don't even have to look at the time! It buzzes, and then I go and do my next thing (pick up wife; go to status meeting (I almost wrote beating); eat; etc.)

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  52. Sorry... by yellowstone · · Score: 5, Funny

    No way I'm getting one of these. The screen is just way too large. I'm holding out for the Palm OS Pinky Ring.

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    1. Re:Sorry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      being punched in the face with the Palm pinky OS, you get the list of contacts on the assaulted's forehead.

  53. Beowulf cluster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did some one say...

    imagine a beowulf cluster of these? some one can write a IR worm that can transmit itself to a owner in close proximity. since this watches might actually be popular with "cool" teens as they are made by fossil, we can hope to have processing power equivalent to an overclocked celeron 300 mhz at MTV's TRL show.

    now the question is, what to do with that power? we could hack that carson daly's brain or something...

    but, the important thing is, we *have* a real plausible dynamic beowulf cluser -- a first for slashdot!

  54. Some relevant experience with tiny PDA-ish watches by Vreejack · · Score: 1

    I wear an old Casio Memory Protect 200 watch which I use to store important numbers. It has saved my butt a few times over the years since it enables me to recall every relevant number I might need to unlock a door, identify myself or use a calling card even when I've lost my wallet and passport in a foreign country. Tied to my wrist, it's almost impossible to lose. A consideration for those who fear "losing" their PDA.

    Biggest problem with the watch is the eight tiny touch pads which occupy 2/5 of the screen. You have to use the corner of your pinky and be willing to try it two or three times to get it right. A pencil eraser or cotton swab worked well, though.

    Mine looks its age. It took a nasty whack on the crystal just last month (whatever it was hurt my wrist) and fortunately did not mar the touch-sensitive pads, but it is defaced. This new product sounds like just what I need.

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  55. I'd like to see the stylus... by shekondar · · Score: 2, Funny

    If this thing really uses a touchscreen, the stylus must only be about an inch long!! People have enough trouble with losing their Palm styluses - I hope this thing comes with about 50,000,000 spares... I hope they don't expect people to use Graffiti on this thing...

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  56. Geek tan by pizen · · Score: 1

    It's a good think geeks are pale to begin with. This watch would create a horrible watch tan.

  57. Need it in Orange by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 1

    My orange handspring visor was a great conversation starter, as it combined stile with technology and geekiness. While you are shoing her how your pilot works, make sure to demo the addressbook with her contact information. Never miss a phone number again!

    Now that I have a girlfriend, I've moved up to a Sony Clie. The Clie doesn't seem to have the same magenetic powers as the visor, but then it is not orange.

    Seattle is a geek town, so things like palm pilots are critical for demonstrating your geek cred.

    1. Re:Need it in Orange by Uart · · Score: 1

      Damn thats smooth, man. My Palm Vx used to get me beat up pretty regularly. Well, not beat up, but teased unmercilessly. Thats probably more because I kept it in a belt-holster of sorts. Damn I was a dork.

      Shut them all up when I showed them all the games, and porn that I had on it...

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    2. Re:Need it in Orange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You young whippersnapper!

      I used to whip out my Radio Shack Model 100 on BART back in '83.

      "What is it? A little computer. Even has an address book. See, here you type in your name. And here your phone number?"

      Seriously, I did actually go out with two women who were drawn into what I was doing. But of course, both threw me over for a guys driving Pacers.

    3. Re:Need it in Orange by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Palm licensed Palm OS to a company that made a cross between a Palm m100 and a TRS-80 m100. I believe the result was the $300 AlphaSmart Dana.

  58. Handedness... by KFury · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My personal problem with this watch is that I'm left-handed, but keep my watch on my left hand. Now, try writing graffiti on a 1.5" watch face with your wrong hand. It ain't easy!

    Now if only the watch was color and use a peephole display...

    1. Re:Handedness... by fastdecade · · Score: 1

      Now if only the watch was color and use a peephole display...

      Peephole idea is awesome, but methinks using it on a palm would lead to some new strain of RSI.

  59. Um... how do you tell the time? by jp93023 · · Score: 1

    Tried the virtual watch simulator on Amazon and there is now way to tell the time!

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    1. Re:Um... how do you tell the time? by Radical+Rad · · Score: 1

      I was wondering the same thing. The main screen should be a clock of some sort not a iconic menu.

  60. Nothing worse than a loose stylus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate to loose the stylus underwater.

    There is nothing worse than a loose stylus. I don't care if it's whoring itself around down by the pier or giving some away for free underwater, I hate a loose stylus...

    (You didn't happen to mean that you'd hate to lose your stylus underwater, did you?)

  61. The PDA Watch of the true geek... by RevAaron · · Score: 1

    if you're that hard up to show the world you're a big nerd, perhaps this is more up your alley. Pros? You can use a much more substantial PDA, enter text a lot faster, and get beat up much more often! :)

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  62. Different Watch... by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 1
    Fossil has 2 brands. The Fossil brand is more expenisve and the Abacus brand will be the cheap one (Different casing, etc). The price of the Abacus will stil be $199 though.


    See the Register story

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  63. arrrghhghghg... by inforiot · · Score: 1

    Crap, I just bought a new fossil watch... I should have waited... I hate my life :)

  64. last thing I need is another gadget with the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My T68i, Visor (to be replaced once a suitable Bluetooth & WiFi Palm is released), and iPod all provide me with a basic feature set of contacts, calendars, to-do list, and notes, plus their respective specialized functions.

    I for one prefer to have several dedicated devices with few overlaping functions and have no need for a geeky gadget that offers the same basic functions as most of the other devices I carry around. And since I can hardly see myself effectively entering information into a wrist watch based PDA, it would only serve as a geeky rolodex.

    However, if it were to include Bluetooth and GSM/GPRS ability, it may be more worthwhile.

  65. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The stylus is part of the wristband. No mention of water proofing or water resistance.

  66. Re:Why is it so ugly? 80's NOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ugly? You must be in your 30's. The watch is actually very now (there few other criteria for contemporary beauty than how current it is -- new stuff always looks bad to old people), as the 80's aesthetic is making an aggressive comeback, especially among hipster kids (i work with buckets of them) and people in the creative industry. See Trucker Caps, wrist bands, tight pants, Pumas, North Stars, GTA3VC, trailer chic. Remember: you only have to wait 15 years for something to be edgy again, and 20 for it to be mainstream in some modified version of the original. I have a Fossil watch from 1996 that has the old red led elements that come on only when you press a button -- reminicent of the first digital watches in the 70's. (Sorry about the double post... i'm just learning about the internet)

  67. You post too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please slow down. It's obvious you're addicted to this site and simply karma whoring at this point. Expand your horizons... read a book, build a mame cabinet... anything other than sitting there getting frustrated because you keep running into the 2-minute-limit.

    1. Re:You post too much by rkz · · Score: 1

      I am at work, but there is nothing to do except watch the backup's progress.

  68. You missed the point. Was: Who needs a watch? by Flamecoach · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You missed the point. We're surrounded by timepieces, and all of them are part of the built-in function of ordinary devices. What they're really selling you is a very small organizer. That it's marketed as a watch is only a distraction. My motorcycle has a built-in clock. Does that mean I should identify it as a clock? Or as a motorcycle?

  69. Now, I consider myself a geek, but... by foxtrot · · Score: 1

    My PDA is my PDA, and my watch is my watch.

    Of course, since my PDA is also my portable mp3 player, digital camera storage brick, and a few other things, my watch * is also my thermometer, compass, altimeter, and barometer...

    * This is actually the newer version of my older model Casio Pathfinder.

  70. Yeah, but... by mistermund · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....does it tell time?

  71. Get an OnHand PC Watch! by Rayonic · · Score: 2, Informative

    That Fossil Palm watch isn't a full PDA, it still needs to sync up with a regular Palm (or PC). I suggest looking into the only true watch-PDA, the onHand PC Watch. It has an estimated three months battery life, as opposed to the Fossil's 4 days (at 30 minutes a day). Not sure about the daily usage of the onHand, but I haven't had to change the batteries since I got mine in March.

    It also comes with an open-source dev kit, not to mention IR and serial connectivity, and 2 megs of RAM.

    1. Re:Get an OnHand PC Watch! by isaac · · Score: 3, Interesting
      That Fossil Palm watch isn't a full PDA, it still needs to sync up with a regular Palm (or PC)

      You're thinking of fossil's other so-called PDA watch. This one runs Palm OS and has a 160x160 screen. It is a "real PDA." You can sync it to a PC, but you can also enter data directly into it with grafitti or an on-screen keyboard.

      I suggest looking into the only true watch-PDA, the onHand PC Watch. It has an estimated three months battery life, as opposed to the Fossil's 4 days (at 30 minutes a day).

      The Fossil uses a rechargeable battery - IOW, put the watch on a charger while you sleep. The onHand uses lithium coin cells that you have to pay to replace every few months. It also has a downright painful interface, compared to the button/rocker switch/touchscreen input of this fossil watch.

      -Isaac

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    2. Re:Get an OnHand PC Watch! by Rayonic · · Score: 1
      You're thinking of fossil's other so-called PDA watch. This one runs Palm OS and has a 160x160 screen. It is a "real PDA." You can sync it to a PC, but you can also enter data directly into it with grafitti or an on-screen keyboard.

      The Fossil uses a rechargeable battery - IOW, put the watch on a charger while you sleep. The onHand uses lithium coin cells that you have to pay to replace every few months. It also has a downright painful interface, compared to the button/rocker switch/touchscreen input of this fossil watch.
      The truth... IT BURNS!

      But I'm glad to hear they've improved the Fossil line, though I'm still reasonably happy with my onHand. The only really painful thing is text input, and I don't have to put in much text, and not often.
  72. It is 160x160 by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

    If you read the amazon tech specs it says it is 160x160 which seems questionable but that's what they claim.

  73. This new product sounds like just what I need... by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

    ....to keep the girls away.

    Actually it's true I've had to use my PDA to identify myself (?) several times when I've hit my head to hard and just can't remember!

  74. Abacus Amazon Link by Deathlizard · · Score: 1

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000 09IROF/104-8965717-2107105

    They will be going for $179.00 for plastic and $199.00 for the metal watch.

  75. A wristwatch with a 4-day battery life? by metamatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

    Maybe I'm a freak, but I have some fairly simple requirements for a wristwatch, which come down to wanting it to tell the time without needing me to go through unnecessary dicking around:

    1. It needs to work for years on end, without my needing to wind it or change batteries at all.

    2. It needs to be accurate to a few seconds a week or better, so I don't need to adjust it more often than travel and time zones dictate anyway.

    3. It needs to be waterproof to any depth I'm likely to swim to without serious diving gear.

    4. It needs to be shockproof enough to withstand (for example) my accidentally slamming it into doors.

    5. It needs to be light enough that I don't feel like I have a brick tied to my wrist.

    6. It needs to be easy to read in daylight and in the dark.

    On top of that, it's a bonus if it isn't horribly ugly or repulsively ostentatious (hello, Rolex owners).

    The requirements all seem fairly obvious to me, but you'd be surprised how hard it is to find a watch that fits the bill. I tried a Seiko Kinetic, but the mechanisms need servicing every few years.

    So now I have a Casio G-Shock with a titanium case and solar panels on the face. At the time I bought it there was only one model of G-Shock with solar power and titanium casing, and it ended up being pretty expensive considering its borderline ugliness.

    So anyway, a watch which has a battery life measured in days is about as much use to me as an Athlon heatsink made of chocolate. I wouldn't buy it if it was $5.

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    1. Re:A wristwatch with a 4-day battery life? by CyberKnet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Enter the Citizen Eco-Drive. Solar powered (and you can't tell), accurate (barely loses a second a month), WR 100, supposedly unscratchable face (I do contest this, although it is *really* difficult to do.. I have managed several small scratches in two years), very light, and exceptionally easy to read in the dark.

      Add to these the rather stylish models available (at least the one I got was) and you've got yourself a watch that never needs to be replaced that also never has to have a battery replaced.

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    2. Re:A wristwatch with a 4-day battery life? by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 1

      "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard."

      You don't have a PDA that travels around in your pocket every single business day of your life.

  76. Amazon Slashdotted! by NickNiel · · Score: 1

    Impressive - it is funny to see the big sites get slammed!

  77. even the skytel-timex pager-watch lasts a month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i have the Skytel pager - Timex watch combo (Timex Internet Messenger) and the battery in that lasts over a month. the PDA must be an awfully huge drain to run it out that fast.

  78. US $295 short ... by hackster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... and about 20 years late to market. My old Seiko RC-1000 Data Terminal from 1983 did almost as much with 2K memory, 6 buttons and a 2-conductor serial interface to a TRS 100 / Olivetti M10 (software on cassette). No touch screen (thank goodness) but no market then, and no market now ... except for collectors ...

    FWIW ...

  79. Fair enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My apologies. Carry on.

  80. As long as... by Revenge013 · · Score: 2, Informative

    they don't put a camera on the freakin' thing. I think Casio tried to do that - and as I result, I had the word 'paranoia' redefined for me as "living in a locker room (called a 'berthing' in the Navy for politically correct reasons), not knowing if the homo across from you is taking pictures with his indiscreet watch."
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    Anyhow, the idea is funny to me because they put a device (the Palm) on a watch which is worn on your wrist. Yet, most often it is quicker to write something with an old-fashioned pen, using the hand that is attached to the wrist which sports a device that takes a helluva-lot longer to scribe information. Then I not dare to wonder about those people who wear their watch on the wrist of their writing hand.

    Revvy

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  81. Does it come with... by Goldenhawk · · Score: 1
    a clip-on magnifing glass, like for the handheld video games for kids?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005LE6 P/ref%3Ded%5Fsoc%5F%5F1%5F1/202-9856137-4642241

    If not, maybe it should come with a coupon for a checkup at Pearle Vision...

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  82. it could run SproutPaint by dreadlock9 · · Score: 1

    That is a pretty sweet watch. It has a 16 greyscale screen so it could probably run my
    paint program for PalmOS. I would love to draw pictures on my watch :)) PalmOS programming is really rewarding when you can write code for your watch. I've been working on an analog clock program with anti-aliased lines and animated plasma backgrounds... it would look pretty cool on a watch like that.

  83. Palm OS Wrist Watch SDK by i4u · · Score: 1

    abacus has an SDK for developers to adapt the Palm OS apps to work on the wrist watch. http://www.i4u.com/article425.html

  84. Tissot already has a touch screen watch by abhikhurana · · Score: 1

    Well, Tissot already has touch screen watch in market called the T-Touch[http://www.t-touch.com/]. The solution is fairly simple. You rovide an activation button for the touchscreen and the touch screen automatically deactivates if you dont touch it for a minute. This solution has less to do with accidental button presses and more to do with power consumption btw. Touch screens are really power hungry devices so keeping one ON for a long time can't be done for a non rechargable battery watch.

  85. Has potential by OpenMind(tm) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think maybe the point should not be "they made a Palm that fits on your wrist" so much as "they made a wristwatch you can easily write software for." I think most Palm software will be useless on this thing, but there are probably a lot of form-factor specific applications that could be written for it. I must say I was amused to see it has the same screen resolution as the Zire. But really, to make it useful, you just need to double your adherence to the PalmOS design criterion mandating that any serious data entry must be done from the companion PC. And while you're at it, quadruple your concern for screen real estate. Given a proper hardware design, however, I think this could be a cool gadget.

    As for programs I think would be nice, there are a few. PalmReader might be doable, ditto Avantgo with the hardware navigation features from the 5.0 beta. Anything like a scaled down DateBook5 would make the platform. Think todos with alarms, event templates, and custom schedule views. Of course keeping in mind that almost all data entry will be on the desktop. Memo reader would be dead. Voice memos would be nice, pending appropriate hardware. Calcul-8! would probably be doable. Address Book could more or less work without modification (except for a bigger font), and would probably be one of the most useful things. But I think most of the killer apps are things we wouldn't even think of for the full sized palms

    For a proper hardware design, I would have to insist on a few things. Number one, the digitizer must be easy to turn off. Really, it should be off most of the time. Number two, there must be sufficient hardware buttons (figure out a way to fit on a 5-way controller, and the thing will get way more useful). Number three, a super durable digitizer, or at least an indestructable, snap closed screen for when you are not entering data. Number four, a very sharp, high-contrast display. I kind of wish they could have shoehorned wi-fi or bluetooth onto this thing, in which case it would be a great little streaming news and email reading device. Another great thing would be an attachable fresnel lens to boost readability when you need it.

  86. In Soviet Russia . . . by jhylkema · · Score: 1

    Palm watches YOU!

  87. I'd lose the band and keep it in my pocket by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

    Interesting. However, I do not wear stuff like watches and rings. I also hardly ever have my Palm with me because it's too damn bulky.

    BUT, I depending on the shape of this thing (it looks completely flat hopefully), I would take the band off and just keep it in my pocket. That's the kind of device I really want. Like those no longer available credit card sized PDA devices (Rex or something like that?). I want something I can easily keep in my pocket, then I'll be sure to always have it.

    If they made a knife and/or pliers fold out of it... woohoo, I'd buy two.

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  88. palm...wrist... by billimad · · Score: 1


    you guys are putting ideas in my head... 4> PROFIT!!!

  89. Too Funny by macmurph · · Score: 1

    Because sometimes you don't look nerdy enough ;)

    This is going to look GREAT along side my Casio Databank!

    LOL

  90. Previous model by SpiffyMarc · · Score: 1

    You are most likely thinking of this beastie. It was read-only, and came in two versions: Palm OS and Pocket PC. It was meant as a quick way to access read-only data at times when it was inconvenient to whip out your PDA.

    Kinda flopped at retail, from what I remember, mostly due to its' massive wrist real-estate and hard to push buttons.

  91. Trig and the Frieden Rotary Calculator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 50 lb Frieden rotary calculator sat in the "Machine Calculation" classroom, and you worked your trig problems to the point where you needed to divide this by that, and carry it out 10 decimal places. Got on your scooter, went 5 miles to school, entered the problem in the Frieden, and after a few minutes of sewing-machine action, the thing had your answer. It would be 10 years before you got your hands on a Sharp electronic calculator.

  92. Funny: It has a "Date Book" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Now we know why this thing needs very little memory. One of the features on the screen is the "Date Book". That's not going to get a lot of use, is it?

    BTW: Here is how to code a link like that in a Slashdot post:

    One of the features on the <A HREF="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009QR9X .01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg">screen</a> is the "Date Book".

    How did I put that example here? I used the
    <ECODE>
    tag, allowed on Slashdot.
  93. Samsung i500 is less than two weeks away by ChrisCampbell47 · · Score: 1
    The Samsung i500 is a cell phone (flip/clamshell format) that has an integrated Palm 4 PDA. It's a CDMA phone and will be on the Sprint network (maybe Verizon later, maybe not). Many, many people are chomping at the bit for this thing, even at the initial price of $600.

    After over a year of waiting, the consensus right now is that it will finally be released on Monday, June 30th. It's already starting to appear in the press -- WSJ review last week (glowing), BusinessWeek mag cover this week (Samsung prez is holding it), Business 2.0 mag spread in July issue that just started hitting the newstands and mailboxes.

    Check out this cool little bit of flash: http://www.testflysamsung.com/i500/index.htm

  94. Awesome!!!! by pitboss8881 · · Score: 1

    I just witnessed a math teacher say "royally fucked"!!

  95. Did anyone see this? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

    Q: When will the Wrist PDA be available for purchase?
    A: The Abacus Wrist PDA with Palm OS ® is scheduled to be available across the United States in March 2003.

    Umm... It's June and they aren't "available across the United States" yet.

    Q: Where may I purchase the Wrist PDA with Palm OS?
    A: The Abacus Wrist PDA may be purchased at various electronic retail stores near you.

    Q: What Palm OS does the Wrist PDA use?
    A: The Wrist PDA runs Palm OS version 4.1.

    Q: Can the Wrist PDA sync with my Desktop?
    A: The Wrist PDA does sync both the Palm Desktop ® and Microsoft Outlook ®. The Wrist PDA also comes with a Hotsync ® cradle for syncing with the desktop.

    Some people were wondering about this one.

    Q: Does the Wrist PDA have a stylus?
    A: The Wrist PDA comes equipped with a stylus integrated into the watchband.

    For a picture of the TINY stylus, go to Fossil.com and play with the demo...

    Q: Does the Wrist PDA support third party applications?
    A: Yes, the Wrist PDA supports all .prc applications that run on the Palm OS.

    VERY interesting...

  96. Battery life by LunarOne · · Score: 1
    Incidentally, it looks like the battery is expected to last only 4 days!

    True, but the battery is lithium ion rechargeable.

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