"The easiest form of parochialism to fall into is to assume that we are smarter than the past generations, that our thinking is necessarily more sophisticated. This may be true in science and technology, but not necessarily so in wisdom."
> Hopefully, at some future point, we will evolve beyond such fables... Stories will never go away. Why? What is the purpose of a story? To teach a moral -- it doesn't matter if the story historically happened or not IF you learn the lesson.
Besides, the disciple Peter already commented on how scriptures should be used that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam continues to ignore:
The allegorical nature of scipture:
Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.
24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
The contradictions in the scriptures:
For, according to the rule delivered to them, they endeavor to correct the discordances of the Scriptures, if any one, haply not knowing the traditions, is confounded at the various utterances of the prophets. Wherefore they charge no one to teach, unless he has first learned how the Scriptures must be used. And thus they have amongst them one God, one law, one hope."
The prophets were sent to the spiritual immature minded:
"Since, therefore, both to the Hebrews and to those who are called from the Gentiles, believing in the teachers of truth is of God, while excellent actions are left to every one to do by his own judgment, the reward is righteously bestowed upon those who do well. For there would have been no need of Moses, or of the coming of Jesus, if of themselves they would have understood what is reasonable."
There are times where having too many policies causes bureaucracy. Conversely not having enough polices is insecure.
IT policies are constantly about balancing time vs security; that is short-term convenience vs long-term security.
i.e. When you use a good password policy schema and force people to use long passwords with X months of forced password changes people bitch that it is too cumbersome.
Any company that sues somebody for disassembling their _own_ hardware doesn't respect its customers. Why would I reward this immoral behavior by keeping them alive?
> I'll have to test this in our ESX environment, because if we can reduce the memory usage of a hundred VMs vs. Windows XP or 7, then that might make it worth jumping over 7
One option to consider is consider making your own Tiny Windows7 (Tiny7) or Tiny Windows XP (TinyXP)
These are the stats for Tiny7
ISO File Size... 699 Mb RAM Usage On First Installation... 145 Mb (idle for 5 mins) Entire Installation Size... 2.46 Gb WINDOWS Folder Size... 2.40 Gb Running Processes, total... 24 Running Processes, Windows... 22 Install Time In VMware...10 to 15 minutes*
2 points of criticism to get out of the way first...
> since the idea of free energy is physically impossible The sun would beg to differ. Unless it is accepting a currency you are not telling?
Actualy, we _already_ have psuedo-free energy:
* Solar. We don't give anything back to it yet it supports us and enables us to do all sorts of wonderful things with it. * Tidal. We also have endless tidal energy that we are not using. * Geothermal. * Technically Wind but that has too many disadvantages relative to the others that those will stop it from ever being fully deployed.
> according to our current understanding of how the universe works, just like FTL travel. That is an extremely _bad_ example as no one has ever proven FTL is NOT possible; we don't understand what the square root of -1 means in this context.
In fact it is the exact opposite: Our physics, in spite of all of its neat advances, is still at the kindergarten level of understanding that we don't even understand how to jump dimensions let alone know the 6 fundamental forces so of course we don't even have a clue how FTL and the implied Time Travel would even work. We will discover them when we are meant to but I digress.
> Rather, you should use the idea of "incredibly cheap, and therefore practically free energy" to stop the obvious criticism. Yes, that is a much better phrasing. Thanks! To be concise though "incredibly portable high energy" is the current problem that is holding us back. It will be interesting to see if LENR or ZPE gets there first.:-)
No, my position is: Government is a necessary evil. If _everyone_ knew how to self-govern there would be no need for Government. Most people don't go around killing others simply because it is "illegal", they do so because they believe it is immoral, against their religion, inefficient, bad karma, etc. It is only the spiritual retards that don't understand the law: "When you harm others you harm yourself."
People have very little or no power in influencing corporations. We all know how ineffective boycotts are. Corporations are strictly amoral. They see no value in doing the "common good" as that costs money. When the will of people is not being acted or enforced then government must step in to enforce it. What other _choices_ do they even have??
IF people would get off their arse and actually DO something collectively together, then YES, we _could_ change the behavior of corporations but until the general public gets over its apathy I don't really see how else there can be change?
That's actually a pretty brilliant insight. I've come to the same conclusion I believe via a different path but was never able to succinctly summarize like you have. Very nice!
My thought process was this... There are a few levels to understand money...
1. The actual things themselves of worth were exchanged (barter) 2. A token was exchanged instead (money) due to finer granularity and convenience 3. Money represents time and knowledge. i.e. You pay contractors to build you a house because you have more money then time/knowledge. Some people have more time/knowledge then money so there is the DIY group. 4. Money ultimately represents an exchange of energy, because that is what it is really is.
What will eventually happen when we discover free energy? It means everyone will effectively be rich.
It means it would be possible to rely on machines 100% to provide the basics -- food, water, shelter. We are already on this path as our tech level increases where people no longer need to dehumanizing jobs such as assembly work. Why also can't we have robots to clean places instead of wasting a human mind on such meaningless cleanup work?
I predict Creativity itself becomes the token of value! You want a particular new widget because you have never seen one like it before. The people who create new things are the ones who are valued. The fashion industry is already proceeding along this path -- they were forced to because of lack of copyright.
When you have a private exchange between two parties and the 3rd party must resort to force and duress to so they can steal from both parties how is that NOT theft??
The government does not have the right to steal my time.
> Taxation is the honoring of a contract, the social contract you are implicitly a signatory to as a citizen of a civilized society.
You really don't have a clue about contract law do you?
You DO know one can opt out of taxes, right? The problem is that is an ALL-or-NOTHING approach. Either you rescind ALL your contracts because even _one_ little one will put your fictitious legal entity back in the system. Usually the inconvenience of not having ANY financial instruments such as a bank account may make life a little challenging then most people would be willing to trade but it is entirely possible. I know one person who has proven it.
Personally though there are bigger battles to wage wars against such as corrupt and war-mongering government then an ignorant government.
> Don't regulate yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater. If people don't want to be stampeded to death, they can just not go out in public.
*sigh*
For the last time "yelling fire" is about PROPERTY rights NOT free speech.
If the theater really is on fire communicating that fact to others IS fine. The problem is when it ISN'T. You are causing panic which may cause bodily and/or property harm.
> And this works to the company's advantage because if they can take $50 from a million people through wrongful means, but none of those people will sue individually, then the company essentially just stole $50 million with no risk.
Sadly, all too true.:-(
i.e. Classmates.com 1. Scam thousands (millions?) of people out of $39 2. Lose the class-action lawsuit and $9 million. Victims gets a $2 or $3 check. 3. Company and Lawyers Profit the millions difference!
Counter-example: Show me _one_ reported problem. We have had cell phone for how many YEARS? Show me ONE plane crash caused to these electronic devices?
Hint: There are NONE.
I *never* turn my cellphone and iPad off. Nothing happens. You know why? Because any EMF noise that they could _possibly_ generate will NEVER effect KEY systems in airplanes.
Talk to the electrical engineers that design and implement the airplanes. They will tell you the same thing.
Instead of whining how about trying to add something positive to the discussion instead? The fact that you are obsessed with the messenger instead of the message proves you are being an Arrogant Cunt. Grow the fuck up.
Bringing this thread back on topic...
./oblg. Joke: "I heard they were renaming 'Windows' to 'Window' because that is all you can have open in new version!" (rimshot)
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Why are you ignoring the fact that the "Book of Enoch 1" was the 3rd most popular book in the Dead Sea Scrolls??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_sea_scrolls#Biblical_books_found
Besides, Enoch is quoted in Jude 14.
To answer your question:
"The easiest form of parochialism to fall into is to assume that we are smarter than the past generations, that our thinking is necessarily more sophisticated. This may be true in science and technology, but not necessarily so in wisdom."
That quote is from the introduction to this brilliant essay: "Macaulay on Copyright"
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/25/1345/03329
> Hopefully, at some future point, we will evolve beyond such fables ...
Stories will never go away. Why? What is the purpose of a story? To teach a moral -- it doesn't matter if the story historically happened or not IF you learn the lesson.
Besides, the disciple Peter already commented on how scriptures should be used that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam continues to ignore:
The allegorical nature of scipture:
The contradictions in the scriptures:
The prophets were sent to the spiritual immature minded:
Consider this, there is a third choice.
There are times where having too many policies causes bureaucracy. Conversely not having enough polices is insecure.
IT policies are constantly about balancing time vs security; that is short-term convenience vs long-term security.
i.e. When you use a good password policy schema and force people to use long passwords with X months of forced password changes people bitch that it is too cumbersome.
Agreed.
Any company that sues somebody for disassembling their _own_ hardware doesn't respect its customers. Why would I reward this immoral behavior by keeping them alive?
It would need to be OPT IN obviously controlled by the user + browser.
Have you seen Lord of the Rings meets WoW? :-)
http://www.onlinegamecommands.com/graphics/wowlotr.gif
What is this an RPG ??
And still no standard support for 3D ?
Anyone know if the mouse being constrained to a window made it into the draft?
*sigh*
> I'll have to test this in our ESX environment, because if we can reduce the memory usage of a hundred VMs vs. Windows XP or 7, then that might make it worth jumping over 7
One option to consider is consider making your own Tiny Windows7 (Tiny7) or Tiny Windows XP (TinyXP)
These are the stats for Tiny7
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/archive/index.php/t-7846.html
2 points of criticism to get out of the way first ...
> since the idea of free energy is physically impossible
The sun would beg to differ. Unless it is accepting a currency you are not telling?
Actualy, we _already_ have psuedo-free energy:
* Solar. We don't give anything back to it yet it supports us and enables us to do all sorts of wonderful things with it.
* Tidal. We also have endless tidal energy that we are not using.
* Geothermal.
* Technically Wind but that has too many disadvantages relative to the others that those will stop it from ever being fully deployed.
> according to our current understanding of how the universe works, just like FTL travel.
That is an extremely _bad_ example as no one has ever proven FTL is NOT possible; we don't understand what the square root of -1 means in this context.
In fact it is the exact opposite: Our physics, in spite of all of its neat advances, is still at the kindergarten level of understanding that we don't even understand how to jump dimensions let alone know the 6 fundamental forces so of course we don't even have a clue how FTL and the implied Time Travel would even work. We will discover them when we are meant to but I digress.
> Rather, you should use the idea of "incredibly cheap, and therefore practically free energy" to stop the obvious criticism. :-)
Yes, that is a much better phrasing. Thanks! To be concise though "incredibly portable high energy" is the current problem that is holding us back. It will be interesting to see if LENR or ZPE gets there first.
Informative post but you forgot one _tiny_ detail about The Hobbit.
They are shooting everything DIGITAL.
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Classmates.com are a bunch of scammers.
And yet is OK that the government murders people everyday who don't agree with their ideology. /sarcasm
No, my position is: Government is a necessary evil. If _everyone_ knew how to self-govern there would be no need for Government. Most people don't go around killing others simply because it is "illegal", they do so because they believe it is immoral, against their religion, inefficient, bad karma, etc. It is only the spiritual retards that don't understand the law: "When you harm others you harm yourself."
People have very little or no power in influencing corporations. We all know how ineffective boycotts are. Corporations are strictly amoral. They see no value in doing the "common good" as that costs money. When the will of people is not being acted or enforced then government must step in to enforce it. What other _choices_ do they even have??
IF people would get off their arse and actually DO something collectively together, then YES, we _could_ change the behavior of corporations but until the general public gets over its apathy I don't really see how else there can be change?
I know, YHBT, but ...
So all those "primitive" tribes in Africa have no food, shelter, etc?
One does NOT need "money" to live on this planet. It just happens to be an _extremely_ convenient form of artificial wealth and way to exchange goods.
> The culture of working 60 hours to out-status-symbol your neighbor is the cause of unemployment
I believe the problem is with American Ego. Bigger must be better, right?
Uh, no.
How about bragging about how FEW hours you work AND still make all that money!
That new paradigm is entirely counter distinctive to the "greed" one.
That's actually a pretty brilliant insight. I've come to the same conclusion I believe via a different path but was never able to succinctly summarize like you have. Very nice!
My thought process was this ... There are a few levels to understand money ...
1. The actual things themselves of worth were exchanged (barter)
2. A token was exchanged instead (money) due to finer granularity and convenience
3. Money represents time and knowledge. i.e. You pay contractors to build you a house because you have more money then time/knowledge. Some people have more time/knowledge then money so there is the DIY group.
4. Money ultimately represents an exchange of energy, because that is what it is really is.
What will eventually happen when we discover free energy? It means everyone will effectively be rich.
It means it would be possible to rely on machines 100% to provide the basics -- food, water, shelter. We are already on this path as our tech level increases where people no longer need to dehumanizing jobs such as assembly work. Why also can't we have robots to clean places instead of wasting a human mind on such meaningless cleanup work?
I predict Creativity itself becomes the token of value! You want a particular new widget because you have never seen one like it before. The people who create new things are the ones who are valued. The fashion industry is already proceeding along this path -- they were forced to because of lack of copyright.
What was your thought process?
Except if it is toe-cheese. ;-)
Agreed 100%
"It is easier to bitch about bad laws then to make good laws."
> Taxation isn't theft.
When you have a private exchange between two parties and the 3rd party must resort to force and duress to so they can steal from both parties how is that NOT theft??
The government does not have the right to steal my time.
> Taxation is the honoring of a contract, the social contract you are implicitly a signatory to as a citizen of a civilized society.
You really don't have a clue about contract law do you?
You DO know one can opt out of taxes, right? The problem is that is an ALL-or-NOTHING approach. Either you rescind ALL your contracts because even _one_ little one will put your fictitious legal entity back in the system. Usually the inconvenience of not having ANY financial instruments such as a bank account may make life a little challenging then most people would be willing to trade but it is entirely possible. I know one person who has proven it.
Personally though there are bigger battles to wage wars against such as corrupt and war-mongering government then an ignorant government.
Maybe if we would spend less money on killing OTHER people and rather on HELPING people maybe people would LIKE supporting the government. But what do you expect when you have useless entertainers making tens of millions and teachers struggle to make a living or classic pork-barrel spending:
i.e.
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/army-to-congress-thanks-but-no-tanks/?hpt=hp_c1
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/how-to-blow-6-billion-on-a-tech-project/
The fact that it takes the government 10 years to ban loud commercials is a prime example of the idiotic bureaucracy.
> Don't regulate yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater. If people don't want to be stampeded to death, they can just not go out in public.
*sigh*
For the last time "yelling fire" is about PROPERTY rights NOT free speech.
If the theater really is on fire communicating that fact to others IS fine.
The problem is when it ISN'T. You are causing panic which may cause bodily and/or property harm.
This myth needs to die.
The fact that it effects single GPU in addition to SLI and Crossfire is worry some.
Micro-Stuttering And GPU Scaling In CrossFire And SLI
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995.html
> And this works to the company's advantage because if they can take $50 from a million people through wrongful means, but none of those people will sue individually, then the company essentially just stole $50 million with no risk.
Sadly, all too true. :-(
i.e. Classmates.com
1. Scam thousands (millions?) of people out of $39
2. Lose the class-action lawsuit and $9 million. Victims gets a $2 or $3 check.
3. Company and Lawyers Profit the millions difference!
References:
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classmates.com#Membership_renewal_and_cancellation
* http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2010/03/classmates_paying_up_to_95m_in_settlement_president_resigns.html
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Classmates.com is a scam social site.
> Well, here's the deal... the FAA DOESN'T KNOW.
Do you *even* understand what shielding is ??
Counter-example: Show me _one_ reported problem. We have had cell phone for how many YEARS? Show me ONE plane crash caused to these electronic devices?
Hint: There are NONE.
I *never* turn my cellphone and iPad off. Nothing happens. You know why? Because any EMF noise that they could _possibly_ generate will NEVER effect KEY systems in airplanes.
Talk to the electrical engineers that design and implement the airplanes. They will tell you the same thing.
Right now, maybe you don't.
But it would nice to know that you could guarantee in the future that someone could NOT post less then flattering photos of you.
It all depends on the _context_ and _your_ right to maintain control over how _your_ data is used and NOT mis-used.
Instead of whining how about trying to add something positive to the discussion instead? The fact that you are obsessed with the messenger instead of the message proves you are being an Arrogant Cunt. Grow the fuck up.
Bringing this thread back on topic ...
. /oblg. Joke: "I heard they were renaming 'Windows' to 'Window' because that is all you can have open in new version!" (rimshot)
Looks like other people are running into the same retarded Win 8 design ...
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/gadgetbox/8-worst-windows-8-annoyances-how-fix-them-962136
I also see Microsoft is copying Unix now via shutdown ... LOL /r /t 0"
"shutdown
/sarcasm Shhh, don't tell him about the "old, lame way" of the wheel; I hate to think what he would call something *thousands* of years old ... ;-)