I have a panasonic Hybrid PBX with 6 CO lines and 16 extentions. It works real well. It will take analog phones as well as the digital phones. The digital phones range from $40 to $100+ on EBay. I have picked up half a dozen digital phones on Ebay and they work pretty well.
The best part is the music on hold, it blows people away:-}
I have no problem with testing in general, nor comparing out kids with the rest of the world (we are way behind in some respects, so it is good to point it out). But when test are used as a political tool to flog the other political party, and show how "tough on education" you can be, there is going to be many more problems created then fixed.
I have a problem with a generic catch all test that are just multiple guess of rote knowledge. Since the educational instituions are graded (if you will) based on test performance, they skew the class room work towards the test while sacrificing other important skills.
It is much harder to teach problem solving skills and critical thinking. Since you cannot measure it it will naturaly fall by the wayside in this enviroment.
Gee, I know, let's remove standardized testing so we won't even know whether the system is broken or not?
We do know that the system is broken. When a high school graduates enter college and have to take several remedail(SP?) reading and math courses, there is a fundamental problem. If the tests are used to intercept these students and help them early on, they have served a good purpose. However, if the tests are used to politicaly flog the local, and state boards of education for under performance, then they are a pervers undertaking.
The schools will be mandated to perform well on the tests. If the pressure is high enough all energies will be directed at preparing for the tests, cutting out time for other important skills.
Still, he's totally safe. There's not a prosecutor in the US who would try him unless they wanted the DCMA at least partially invalidated.
IANAL, but that still seems to be to be selective. If he broke the law, he needs to be prosecuted. If they are not prosecuring him, because he falls into a certain class.... Did he break the law or not? Could this not be used as a club to get the law thrown out?
RANT Another problem here is that the american educational system in general does not turn out critical thinkers. Lets hear it for the standardized test (props to Bush!) Kids are being force fed rote knowlege under the guise of being education. Then they are tested for said knowlege and the system is declared to be broken. The cure, more tests...
The result is a mass of Joe six packs that do not even know when "the man" is taking away rights from the average citizen...
The real crime is the apathy that results from a poor educational system. /RANT
The same is true with any "free" software. It's only a bargain some of the time. Too many people here don't realize that.
I value my time a lot, thank you very much, and I use Linux almost exclusivly.
How long will it take you to learn WebObjects and be able to realize the $700 software investment in saved time. What about the upgrade treadmill? Why teach yourself a close source tool set when you can just as easly use an open source tool set? You would arguably recoup the cost in time, and therfore money, much sooner.
Also if you choose to invest your time in a propritary system, you are still bound to the whims of the company that developed it. Look at the people that invested time in Drumbeat 2000. Macromedia bought it, and promptly crushed it. You learned Drumbeat, you were screwed. I don't know about WebObjects, but can you garuntee that they will not have a simmilar fate?
You can choose to learn something that gives you total control over the tool, and you are much less likely to be screwed with your time investment.
I own a small ISP, so I fully agree that it's within ISPs rights to limit the connection to only those who purchase it for consumer grade services.
I own a small ISP too, and my clients pay by the sip. They get a "cheap" T1 access, but they have to limit the usage of it, or pay more. It is that simple.
The idea of crazy fast bandwidth for a cheap low monthly rate is good, but ripe for abuse.
Bandwidth costs money, plain and simple. To account for consumption you need to charge by the byte, that way a fair price is paid by all, and there are no free loaders.
Ultimately it is the only fair way of paying for bandwidth consumption.
By 2006 I would expect that the real P2P software to start taking hold. This software is just not in real time, which has its dis/advantages but it can effectivly (in theory) do the same thing
If the RIAA forces everyone to stop trading in the clear, most people will go under ground, and this project will be developed even faster.
This is a great idea in theory. However if you look at the real Internet there are a handful of major backbone providers due to the fact that it makes sence to aggrigate your traffic to a few major pipes them many multiple smaller pipes.
Chances are that if something like this were to pop up in several ajacent networks the users on the networks would be interested in getting to the outside world, not the next neighbourhood over.
You would still need at least one point of entery to the net, and if you wanted multiple points you would most likley need and AS number, and largish, expnsive routers.
The single biggest obstical is the cost of the equipment, and even more so, the skills set required to configure and maintain the network.
I have had dreams about setting something like this up, but the amount of time to maintain it is too high. When you can get a better routing protocol, cheaper equipement, I can see it taking off. But it is a little ways away, except for the volunteer efforts by some dedicated geeks out there.
Thanks, I guess that is yet another exception to the i before e except after c rule. I hate english... but it is all I got, not many people speak in Perl.
I would be impressed with a
Dyson Sphere out of legos. That would be cool. And you could have a little Scotty Lego charachter next to a crashed shuttle craft on the surface.
Prolly, but I'm sure it would be a life time career move. And if you screw up, a PHB is the least of your concerns, you'll be sleeping with the fishes.
However I can't ignore this. It does worry me since most of my clients only know MS. It is very difficult to get your avarage joe user to break the MS habit, and some clients believe the FUD being spewed/parroted by media.
We can't ignore it, MS have a monopoly and they are going to leverage to its fullest extent until it is (if ever) taken away.
I cheer on your use of linux, but we are a minority, a well informed minority, but a minority non the less.
Wow, I was wondering what happened to him. Great play lists, ummm, and a "unique" on air personality.
It was a long long time ago in central Maryland that WGRX was the best thing in alternative radio (then classic rock, now they are country). About the same time WGRX switched to classic rock, WHFS came into being, and it was very good. Unfortunatly they got to sucessful, and thus too commercial.
Now there is nothing in Maryland that is half way decent, everything is just regurgitated corperate pop drivel.
I was hoping Internet radio would change all of this... looks like that dream is shot too.
Yeah, they work great, until your kids school makes an automated call about his/her attendance or about an early closing. You get booted off of thier call list too.
The Unit cannot distinguish between legeitamate calls and phone spammers....
The students that are natuarly drawn to tech will learn how to use it regardless.
The problem for the schools is that most teachers, and administrators are not interested in tech (they are interested in teaching thier core subjects). And they may not understand how to use it, which is not thier fault, they were most likely never trained on it, or have no desire to use it.
The schools are told to embrace tech, and teach it. They do, but find out that the technicaly inclined kids quickly outpace the teachers and are doing things that the administrantion and teachers do not understand, and are not comforatable with.
Before you know it, the studetns are in a locked down envirment, techincaly speaking, with tools that can go far beyond what the students are allowed to do with them. It is no fun learning a tool that you are not allowed to use to its full potential.
They end up teaching tech to the lowest common denominator, and the technicaly savvy kids are frustrated, and move on to something else, or find ways to break the system.
If you want to teach tech, you need tech savvy teachers... otherwise it is wasted effort.
'If 2002MN had hit the Earth, it would have caused local devastation similar to that which occurred in Tunguska, Siberia, in 1908...'"
These guys have obviously not tried my three alarm chilli and some of my homebrew. Talk about destruction... thank god there were no open flames near by last time.
Slashdot Mirror
and nuclear explosion simmulations...
I have a panasonic Hybrid PBX with 6 CO lines and 16 extentions. It works real well. It will take analog phones as well as the digital phones. The digital phones range from $40 to $100+ on EBay. I have picked up half a dozen digital phones on Ebay and they work pretty well.
:-}
The best part is the music on hold, it blows people away
I have a problem with a generic catch all test that are just multiple guess of rote knowledge. Since the educational instituions are graded (if you will) based on test performance, they skew the class room work towards the test while sacrificing other important skills.
It is much harder to teach problem solving skills and critical thinking. Since you cannot measure it it will naturaly fall by the wayside in this enviroment.
Gee, I know, let's remove standardized testing so we won't even know whether the system is broken or not?
We do know that the system is broken. When a high school graduates enter college and have to take several remedail(SP?) reading and math courses, there is a fundamental problem. If the tests are used to intercept these students and help them early on, they have served a good purpose. However, if the tests are used to politicaly flog the local, and state boards of education for under performance, then they are a pervers undertaking.
The schools will be mandated to perform well on the tests. If the pressure is high enough all energies will be directed at preparing for the tests, cutting out time for other important skills.
IANAL, but that still seems to be to be selective. If he broke the law, he needs to be prosecuted. If they are not prosecuring him, because he falls into a certain class.... Did he break the law or not? Could this not be used as a club to get the law thrown out?
Another problem here is that the american educational system in general does not turn out critical thinkers. Lets hear it for the standardized test (props to Bush!) Kids are being force fed rote knowlege under the guise of being education. Then they are tested for said knowlege and the system is declared to be broken. The cure, more tests...
The result is a mass of Joe six packs that do not even know when "the man" is taking away rights from the average citizen...
The real crime is the apathy that results from a poor educational system.
/RANT
Oh here are my meds....whew... i feel better now.
If "they" don't arrest him, can future arresties argue selective prosecution?
I value my time a lot, thank you very much, and I use Linux almost exclusivly.
How long will it take you to learn WebObjects and be able to realize the $700 software investment in saved time. What about the upgrade treadmill? Why teach yourself a close source tool set when you can just as easly use an open source tool set? You would arguably recoup the cost in time, and therfore money, much sooner.
Also if you choose to invest your time in a propritary system, you are still bound to the whims of the company that developed it. Look at the people that invested time in Drumbeat 2000. Macromedia bought it, and promptly crushed it. You learned Drumbeat, you were screwed. I don't know about WebObjects, but can you garuntee that they will not have a simmilar fate?
You can choose to learn something that gives you total control over the tool, and you are much less likely to be screwed with your time investment.
This is so true, I wish the PHBs would get this! Detection and prevention are two different things, it is like comparing a pregnancy test to a condom.
You should have at least used the later, but to be sure, use the former as well.
I own a small ISP too, and my clients pay by the sip. They get a "cheap" T1 access, but they have to limit the usage of it, or pay more. It is that simple.
The idea of crazy fast bandwidth for a cheap low monthly rate is good, but ripe for abuse.
Bandwidth costs money, plain and simple. To account for consumption you need to charge by the byte, that way a fair price is paid by all, and there are no free loaders.
Ultimately it is the only fair way of paying for bandwidth consumption.
By 2006 I would expect that the real P2P software to start taking hold. This software is just not in real time, which has its dis/advantages but it can effectivly (in theory) do the same thing
If the RIAA forces everyone to stop trading in the clear, most people will go under ground, and this project will be developed even faster.
This is a true Spy vs. Spy scenario.
This is a great idea in theory. However if you look at the real Internet there are a handful of major backbone providers due to the fact that it makes sence to aggrigate your traffic to a few major pipes them many multiple smaller pipes.
Chances are that if something like this were to pop up in several ajacent networks the users on the networks would be interested in getting to the outside world, not the next neighbourhood over.
You would still need at least one point of entery to the net, and if you wanted multiple points you would most likley need and AS number, and largish, expnsive routers.
The single biggest obstical is the cost of the equipment, and even more so, the skills set required to configure and maintain the network.
I have had dreams about setting something like this up, but the amount of time to maintain it is too high. When you can get a better routing protocol, cheaper equipement, I can see it taking off. But it is a little ways away, except for the volunteer efforts by some dedicated geeks out there.
~Sean
Thanks, I guess that is yet another exception to the i before e except after c rule. I hate english... but it is all I got, not many people speak in Perl.
I would be impressed with a Dyson Sphere out of legos. That would be cool.
And you could have a little Scotty Lego charachter next to a crashed shuttle craft on the surface.
Prolly, but I'm sure it would be a life time career move. And if you screw up, a PHB is the least of your concerns, you'll be sleeping with the fishes.
or
Steppenwolf: Born to be wild?
~Sean
Congradulations!
However I can't ignore this. It does worry me since most of my clients only know MS. It is very difficult to get your avarage joe user to break the MS habit, and some clients believe the FUD being spewed/parroted by media.
We can't ignore it, MS have a monopoly and they are going to leverage to its fullest extent until it is (if ever) taken away.
I cheer on your use of linux, but we are a minority, a well informed minority, but a minority non the less.
We will not be able to have hot dogs at baseball games, eat apple pie, or sing the Star Spangled Banner....
Oh, and by this reasoning our legal tender is no longer constitutional, either.
Hmmm, ThickNet, no, no, no, too bulky.
of course, 10 base 2, or BNC. That would work right?
Wow, I was wondering what happened to him. Great play lists, ummm, and a "unique" on air personality.
It was a long long time ago in central Maryland that WGRX was the best thing in alternative radio (then classic rock, now they are country). About the same time WGRX switched to classic rock, WHFS came into being, and it was very good. Unfortunatly they got to sucessful, and thus too commercial.
Now there is nothing in Maryland that is half way decent, everything is just regurgitated corperate pop drivel.
I was hoping Internet radio would change all of this... looks like that dream is shot too.
Yeah, they work great, until your kids school makes an automated call about his/her attendance or about an early closing. You get booted off of thier call list too.
The Unit cannot distinguish between legeitamate calls and phone spammers....
The students that are natuarly drawn to tech will learn how to use it regardless.
The problem for the schools is that most teachers, and administrators are not interested in tech (they are interested in teaching thier core subjects). And they may not understand how to use it, which is not thier fault, they were most likely never trained on it, or have no desire to use it.
The schools are told to embrace tech, and teach it. They do, but find out that the technicaly inclined kids quickly outpace the teachers and are doing things that the administrantion and teachers do not understand, and are not comforatable with.
Before you know it, the studetns are in a locked down envirment, techincaly speaking, with tools that can go far beyond what the students are allowed to do with them. It is no fun learning a tool that you are not allowed to use to its full potential.
They end up teaching tech to the lowest common denominator, and the technicaly savvy kids are frustrated, and move on to something else, or find ways to break the system.
If you want to teach tech, you need tech savvy teachers... otherwise it is wasted effort.
These guys have obviously not tried my three alarm chilli and some of my homebrew. Talk about destruction... thank god there were no open flames near by last time.
and assembled in china...