Then both are liars. As long as so much of scientific research depends on grants from "public" (government*) money, somebody will have to make decisions as to who receives money and who doesn't. This is politics. Now perhaps Obama/McCain themselves won't personally make these decisions, which is about as true as what you said could be, but someone whom they can fire or at least influence will be doing so. Therefore, politics will very much affect science although this has been the case for some time now.
The key question is why should the president even be making decisions on what science to learn? True, that Bush did order that no "federal" money be given for human genetics manipulation, however, I find it more appalling that for-profit corporations are looking for handouts.
I think a better long-term solution to that is to simply declare that once you retire and leave the workforce and start collecting Social Security, you surrender the right to vote (this would be far more effective than trying to get more of the youngest potential voters to start voting -- they can't and won't take the interest in this that a retiree can afford to). Let the right to vote be for those who are currently net producers, not currently net consumers.
Erm... We did have that, once. The original requirement in the Constitution, long changed was that suffrage required land ownership. I'm sure you realize that, along with why it was changed. And especially now, land means you are tied to one spot. Capitalists have no tying as they control liquid and semi-liquid assets. In fact, they were the major force in turning over that part of the Constitution.
Now, I dont argue your point about SS pulling elderlies and welfare recipients voting to increase their benefits. In fact, that was one of the downfalls that Karl Marx commented about Socialism. It's even codified in the Constitution via legislators not being able to immediately increase their pay (well, as a delayed effect).
And I do want to ask you a question. What attributes makes a good Congresscritter; president; or other high office? Why are you nor I not able to get in, yet groups like the Kennedys, Bushs, and such get in year after year?
The KKK is a pretty darn nasty group, but they're overshadowed by the Skinheads. Much worse as they follow the "teachings" of Hitler and their ilk. The KKK has these rallies of dunce caps and beadsheets down the main street, but the Skinheads use rather nastier methods.
The skinheads found out if they openly pronounce racism, nobody listens. Instead, they are seen as "ambassadors of law and pride". You see these guys at sporting events handing out Immigration documents for a call to action to kick 'illegals' out. They're also found at Mixed Martial Arts groups as a way to become "manly". They also will send out a sole guy to start a sort of a "fight club" (yes, similar to the show) to stir up the young white guys in a neighborhood to start a new chapter of Skinheads. They're also known to open up groups of "Scottish Clubs", "Olde-English Clubs" or other euphemisms of the Whites Only idea.
A&E did a documentary on Skinheads, which a commentary of the film can be found here (google cache of stormfront.org). Warning: Stormfront.org is a big gathering place of Neo-nazis, Skins, KKK, and other racial-hating groups.
One should be suspect of any ring 0 code, along with any other lesser-permission code.
As expected, I scanned the cd-image after decompressing cabs in a Linux machine. After that, I loaded up the image in VirtualBox and installed it. After complete install, I stopped the process and scanned the vdi for interesting files. Clean.
And the folks at piratebay on that link also state that it's clean... not that I'd trust them for anything terribly important.
Even we Amateur radio guys know how dirty power is, unless you go to a pure source. When we need pure power, we use a trusty brick of lead and acid called a Car Battery. 12v @ 600A is good enough for most equipment.
Whoops, your device doesnt use 12v? Then build a regulator to go from 12v to 120v/60Hz AC. After building/buying, use an o-scope to verify no stair stepping. And sync to a pure 60Hz resonator and compare deviancy.
The fact is, if they're using scientific equipment, there's no reason why these errors should be there. After all, you pay X multiple thousands for test equipment and they dont verify even basic power input for bad variations. Yuck.
Good thing I use 12v systems for my radio. Low low harmonics means great signal and no noise on neighboring bands.
Microsoft can use ANY amount of GPL'ed code they want. In fact, they have a "Unix-compatibility layer" that has a cornucopia of GPL tools.
They also provide the source along with scripts to compile it under Windows. They follow the GPL as far as I can tell (unless a bonehead contractor uses a chunk of code).
Its all there, XP SP2 corp edition with serials and all. Verifies good vs WGA.
And even having a full "library" of software, I still choose Ubuntu. These days, unless its playing a game with friends (which invariably use Windows), I'm hanging around multimedia apps and stuff in Linux.
I understand. You want parts of criminal process to be hidden, and some parts public. And anybody who goes against it is tried on slander/libel.
If prosecuting attorney issues a warrant for the arrest of CowboyNeal, it's public. That serves as a warning to him to come forward and others to not help him evade authorities. And once charges have been levied against CowboyNeal, it's public record. And the first day in the court room, charges are announced as to why CowboyNeal is doing there.
And it's not libel to report "The state arrested CowboyNeal and is trying charges of Rape, Murder, and Successful Suicide"
Oh, I understand that... I'm just trying to figure out how a state entity can make an accusation against person X while keeping it quiet.
The courts are almost always open court (except in rare media-circus cases which cameras are allowed). The court transcript is public record. Decisions made by the court are public record
Because of that, people and companies can sit in the public bench and write down everything. Our court system is what allows transparency of those accused. That is a good thing.
One idea I'd suppose that you mean is to gag newspapers from printing accusations. That's fine and dandy, except it's illegal. Public record and all. And if one was to ban media companies, one would have to have a white-list of who is allowed into courtroom. There's that secret court again.
And yes, it's a slippery slope, but secrets are secrets when nobody talks. Now, one good thing would to petition the news companies to NOT put names until the court case is finalized, but that would be a voluntary choice on their end.
And in this republic, the people are far removed from those actually making law along with making themselves immune from them.
It really is a cop-out to say "You should vote" or "Go run for office for yourself".
For example, medical marijuana is legal in California in small amounts. That's fine and dandy, until the federal idiots come in and bust you for a federal crime of drug possession.
The idea behind Patents and Copyrights is Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
Does excessive time promote the progress of sciences and arts? Is 140+ years "limited times"?
Companies bought legislation to extend the time to current. We the people only have one real weapon: downloading and sharing.
European countries did that prior to the USA. That's why ours is open court, and the accused has a right to cross-examine witnesses, along with knowing who they are.
China has a closed court for their "political" branch.. yet the US allows documents like the Pentagon Papers to be published, with a Supreme Court ruling.
Worse than that, 4+1 dimentions just dont make sense. 5+1 is where it's at.
And if the math is correct, there's no stable orbits in 4+1 OR 5+1. 4+1 would have some sort of wonky 1/x^3 field strength in respect to gravity and em, and 5+1 would have 1/x^4. If we were able to go to dimensions with that body of physics, we would either fall or float away.
Assuming that you are from the USA (given the inverted username:P ), how would you "Promote the sciences and the arts" if we do not have a form of copyright?
Im seriously asking that. There has to be a way to have people create intangible goods (programming, design, patterns) without worry of compensation. Compelling people to do such does not work, as we can see with communism.
And aside the arguments of "they arent promised any money from copyright"... If creators create, expect to get paid, and dont get money, they wont create later. That's just the hard facts.
Just you wait until videoconferencing is the norm then.
How much bandwidth does it "cost" for a 512p video and 64kB/s mono mp3 both ways? That very next slash article, Ask Slashdot: A Full-Time 2-Way Video Link To Grandparents? , is about that very topic.
And I know a smoker who's 88 yrs old. No emphysema or other problems.
Still, I understand your point. Speaking as a amateur radio operator, I only fear high wattage, focused output, and ionizing radiation. If the PEP is fairly high, it gets veeeery dangerous.
I once saw a EME rig that did 200 kW PEP. Scary stuff, considering that's lethal to damn near everything (except Deinococcus radiodurans).
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Why are not banks responsible for fraud?
Is it not the bank's responsibility to maintain security and keep secure transactions?
Then... Why the limitation of 50k$ when FDIC covers 100$k ?
No. Not Mega Man Zero 1
Mega Man 1. Elec-Man, Ice-Man, Fire-Man, Guts-Man, Cuts-Man, Bomb-Man.
Damn. It took still just to get on the second screen on Elec-Man's stage.
Now, Mega Man 2 wasnt as rude as 1, but hard mode screwed around with "cant hit the too low to ground enemies".
Those were the days.
The key question is why should the president even be making decisions on what science to learn? True, that Bush did order that no "federal" money be given for human genetics manipulation, however, I find it more appalling that for-profit corporations are looking for handouts.
Erm... We did have that, once. The original requirement in the Constitution, long changed was that suffrage required land ownership. I'm sure you realize that, along with why it was changed. And especially now, land means you are tied to one spot. Capitalists have no tying as they control liquid and semi-liquid assets. In fact, they were the major force in turning over that part of the Constitution.
Now, I dont argue your point about SS pulling elderlies and welfare recipients voting to increase their benefits. In fact, that was one of the downfalls that Karl Marx commented about Socialism. It's even codified in the Constitution via legislators not being able to immediately increase their pay (well, as a delayed effect).
And I do want to ask you a question. What attributes makes a good Congresscritter; president; or other high office? Why are you nor I not able to get in, yet groups like the Kennedys, Bushs, and such get in year after year?
And how in the hell do you think that a few FOSS people are going to donate to stop a 5+ company lawsuit?
They dont need 1 lawyer, they need 5. And I'm sure, given BS rulings like the Mad Cow testing, that Discover would be sure to blame.
And regardless, they lose advertiser funds. Nope, they arent going to show it at all.
All ID does is shove the problem of describing how we got to this point into another level.
Q. How'd we get here?
A. We were crafted by those superior to us.
Q2. Who created them?
A2. By someone superior to them.
ad absurdum.
Now... Wouldnt it be interesting if our planet was seeded by foreign biological material? Pan-spermia or alien creation aside..
Shaper.
Specifically designed to create a digital consciousness from a seed value of 700MB (the amount of data held within our human DNA).
The KKK is a pretty darn nasty group, but they're overshadowed by the Skinheads. Much worse as they follow the "teachings" of Hitler and their ilk. The KKK has these rallies of dunce caps and beadsheets down the main street, but the Skinheads use rather nastier methods.
The skinheads found out if they openly pronounce racism, nobody listens. Instead, they are seen as "ambassadors of law and pride". You see these guys at sporting events handing out Immigration documents for a call to action to kick 'illegals' out. They're also found at Mixed Martial Arts groups as a way to become "manly". They also will send out a sole guy to start a sort of a "fight club" (yes, similar to the show) to stir up the young white guys in a neighborhood to start a new chapter of Skinheads. They're also known to open up groups of "Scottish Clubs", "Olde-English Clubs" or other euphemisms of the Whites Only idea.
A&E did a documentary on Skinheads, which a commentary of the film can be found here (google cache of stormfront.org). Warning: Stormfront.org is a big gathering place of Neo-nazis, Skins, KKK, and other racial-hating groups.
One should be suspect of any ring 0 code, along with any other lesser-permission code.
As expected, I scanned the cd-image after decompressing cabs in a Linux machine. After that, I loaded up the image in VirtualBox and installed it. After complete install, I stopped the process and scanned the vdi for interesting files. Clean.
And the folks at piratebay on that link also state that it's clean... not that I'd trust them for anything terribly important.
You cant be serious.
Even we Amateur radio guys know how dirty power is, unless you go to a pure source. When we need pure power, we use a trusty brick of lead and acid called a Car Battery. 12v @ 600A is good enough for most equipment.
Whoops, your device doesnt use 12v? Then build a regulator to go from 12v to 120v/60Hz AC. After building/buying, use an o-scope to verify no stair stepping. And sync to a pure 60Hz resonator and compare deviancy.
The fact is, if they're using scientific equipment, there's no reason why these errors should be there. After all, you pay X multiple thousands for test equipment and they dont verify even basic power input for bad variations. Yuck.
Good thing I use 12v systems for my radio. Low low harmonics means great signal and no noise on neighboring bands.
Microsoft can use ANY amount of GPL'ed code they want. In fact, they have a "Unix-compatibility layer" that has a cornucopia of GPL tools.
They also provide the source along with scripts to compile it under Windows. They follow the GPL as far as I can tell (unless a bonehead contractor uses a chunk of code).
Then I'll give you a hint...
thepiratebay.com
Its all there, XP SP2 corp edition with serials and all. Verifies good vs WGA.
And even having a full "library" of software, I still choose Ubuntu. These days, unless its playing a game with friends (which invariably use Windows), I'm hanging around multimedia apps and stuff in Linux.
It Just Works.
So is it first-sale doctrine, or some judges setting non-binding precedent?
Prove that it is not a first-sale doctrine issue.
I'd trust them if they were dead.
Then they wouldnt be telling lies.
What's next? "Our unalienable right to download kiddie porn" ?
Good point. And I say, in memory of George Carlin: FUCK THE CHILDREN.
I understand. You want parts of criminal process to be hidden, and some parts public. And anybody who goes against it is tried on slander/libel.
If prosecuting attorney issues a warrant for the arrest of CowboyNeal, it's public. That serves as a warning to him to come forward and others to not help him evade authorities. And once charges have been levied against CowboyNeal, it's public record. And the first day in the court room, charges are announced as to why CowboyNeal is doing there.
And it's not libel to report "The state arrested CowboyNeal and is trying charges of Rape, Murder, and Successful Suicide"
Oh, I understand that... I'm just trying to figure out how a state entity can make an accusation against person X while keeping it quiet.
The courts are almost always open court (except in rare media-circus cases which cameras are allowed). The court transcript is public record. Decisions made by the court are public record
Because of that, people and companies can sit in the public bench and write down everything. Our court system is what allows transparency of those accused. That is a good thing.
One idea I'd suppose that you mean is to gag newspapers from printing accusations. That's fine and dandy, except it's illegal. Public record and all. And if one was to ban media companies, one would have to have a white-list of who is allowed into courtroom. There's that secret court again.
And yes, it's a slippery slope, but secrets are secrets when nobody talks. Now, one good thing would to petition the news companies to NOT put names until the court case is finalized, but that would be a voluntary choice on their end.
And in this republic, the people are far removed from those actually making law along with making themselves immune from them.
It really is a cop-out to say "You should vote" or "Go run for office for yourself".
For example, medical marijuana is legal in California in small amounts. That's fine and dandy, until the federal idiots come in and bust you for a federal crime of drug possession.
Patents are 17 years.
Copyrights WERE 17 years. They're now 140+ years.
The idea behind Patents and Copyrights is Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
Does excessive time promote the progress of sciences and arts? Is 140+ years "limited times"?
Companies bought legislation to extend the time to current. We the people only have one real weapon: downloading and sharing.
Then what you're asking is a secret court.
European countries did that prior to the USA. That's why ours is open court, and the accused has a right to cross-examine witnesses, along with knowing who they are.
China has a closed court for their "political" branch.. yet the US allows documents like the Pentagon Papers to be published, with a Supreme Court ruling.
that was a boners.com joke image.
WARNING! Bad jokes cause chronic stupidity. Consult your doctor before usage.
Worse than that, 4+1 dimentions just dont make sense. 5+1 is where it's at.
And if the math is correct, there's no stable orbits in 4+1 OR 5+1. 4+1 would have some sort of wonky 1/x^3 field strength in respect to gravity and em, and 5+1 would have 1/x^4. If we were able to go to dimensions with that body of physics, we would either fall or float away.
Assuming that you are from the USA (given the inverted username :P ), how would you "Promote the sciences and the arts" if we do not have a form of copyright?
Im seriously asking that. There has to be a way to have people create intangible goods (programming, design, patterns) without worry of compensation. Compelling people to do such does not work, as we can see with communism.
And aside the arguments of "they arent promised any money from copyright"... If creators create, expect to get paid, and dont get money, they wont create later. That's just the hard facts.
Just you wait until videoconferencing is the norm then.
How much bandwidth does it "cost" for a 512p video and 64kB/s mono mp3 both ways? That very next slash article,
Ask Slashdot: A Full-Time 2-Way Video Link To Grandparents?
, is about that very topic.
And I know a smoker who's 88 yrs old. No emphysema or other problems.
Still, I understand your point. Speaking as a amateur radio operator, I only fear high wattage, focused output, and ionizing radiation. If the PEP is fairly high, it gets veeeery dangerous.
I once saw a EME rig that did 200 kW PEP. Scary stuff, considering that's lethal to damn near everything (except Deinococcus radiodurans).
And since I have the mod points, Ill ask the karma-killing question.
Where did the "Nintendo Gets sued for patent violations in Wiimote" go?