Nothing is Rare/Epic in WOW. It just takes longer to get. Hell most 60s are equipped in rares/epics.
Try joining a guild that is just starting molten core. Our guild went for the first time yesterday. We ended up doing a 6 hour run, cleared 3 bosses, with about 8 epics dropping. If you spend 6-12 hours on a weapon/armor, I'd say it should be pretty 'epic'.
Worse, its an ever escalating arms race. They keep out doing the last quest and now you have scads of level 60s running around with items that normal level 60 content can't threaten and worse, in PvP anyone not equipped on the same level is just shit out of luck.
I think the worst thing about WoW right now is that the pvp rewards don't even come close to what you can gain via pve in the same amount of time.
The pvp system really needs to be revamped, especially the rewards....but from what I've heard it won't be until after the expansion.
Actually, I play WoW and I've seen and reporting people for calling other players 'faggots', 'niggers' and 'towel heads' (I have no clue why people use this). Most GMs will usually just blow you off for reporting this though, let alone the fact that the average wait time for a GM to respond is roughly 20 to 45 minutes.
Yes, it may seem to you like they are blowing you off, but they do suspend the player for this if they say it. I was once in a guild where one member called another the "N" word over and over again in guild chat, and he got suspended for it. He caught a perma ban for telling another player he was going to "Jihad you like an islamist". Blizzard does ban these people, they just don't tell the person who reports it about the fact that they suspend/ban them
Oh and last but not least, (at least on RP servers) you CANNOT talk to players on the other faction because they PURPOSELY scramble the chat (and yes, attempting to decode their filters is a bannable offense which leads to insane amounts of out of game communications and planning).
Pretty much every player I've seen in BG's uses unscrambled chat to say things to one another. I do as well, and I've never been reported/suspended for it.
So you don't complain about all the other players who use gay-bashing language, screaming "Faggot!" at anyone who pisses them off, and receive no punishment from Blizzard... But you claim inappropriateness when a GLBT group forms in an effort to counter this abuse?
If you report someone for that, they will get suspended, and if they are suspended three times, they get a perma ban.
You can call him Dr Cockface for all I care, the media however should have higher standards and strive for neutrality. They also should respect the institutions of government.
I'd also like to point out that Bush was lawfully elected twice. While the results of 2000 were surely close, and a clusterfuck on top of that, 2004 was a clear victory for Bush.
The poll found that 53 percent of Americans approved of Mr. Bush's authorizing eavesdropping without prior court approval "in order to reduce the threat of terrorism"; 46 percent disapproved. When the question was asked stripped of any mention of terrorism, 46 percent of those respondents approved, and 50 percent said they disapproved.
And there you have the manipulation of statistics to prove a point. Had they ask the question "Do you approve of Mr. Bush's authorizing eavesdropping on terrorists without prior court approval" the numbers would have been even higher in favor of Bush.
Really, the liberal media needs to stop with the baby crap of calling Bush "Mr. Bush". He's the president, show some respect even if you don't agree with his policies and call him "President Bush". Also, for the love of god, stop calling Bill Clinton "President Clinton". It's former President Clinton, like you do for every other one.
One of the positive things about the Internet, is it's ability to give everyone a voice. I still have enough faith in the world, that those who what to do the right thing easily outnumber those that dont. Concepts like Wikipedia help to preserve the real facts of events because so many people have a vested interest in keeping the articles they contribute to error-free. Information is power, and the governments of the world don't understand that they no longer control the information flow.
Not really. Wikipedia still reflects the bias of those who are likely to contribute and edit. Just because a bunch of people say something is the 'truth' doesn't mean it is.
Three candidates received electoral votes in 2004,
Did I miss something? No electoral votes went to anyone other than Bush/Kerry. Voting for a third party is a good idea even if they don't win, if they break a certain percentage of the vote (I think it's 3%?) they get federal funding in the next election cycle.
If one entity had the ability to accomplish 100% of the meaningful tasks in a given game, then there would be no reason for a game to be "Massively Multiplayer." By segmenting players into specialized classes, it forces people to team up.
A druid could main tank, main heal, or dps in dire maul in world of warcraft. Yet they could never get through the whole instance alone. People would have to team up just to overcome whatever monsters they are encountering at some point.
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Hah! We Bush supporters were playing command and conquer generals before this Dean game ever came out!
The key reason why ZG is such a big step up from UBRS is because ZG is the first instance that cannot simply be steamrolled with more powerful characters/more players than needed. For most instances, many players can simply not imagine doing them at anything other than the higher end of Blizzard's level bracket. However, when you hit UBRS/Strat/Scholo, suddenly you can't simply get to a higher level, because these things are tuned for max level characters. So what do you do?
You bring your buddies.
I think ZG is a big step up because the bosses are much harder. All of the bosses in UBRS and below basically have the strategy of "Main tank go get aggro, call for DPS after awhile and everyone else attack. Healers heal the main tank". Drak is a little different since you either double fear his buddies or do the hunter pull thing to take him out of the room for a bit.
The ZG bosses have wierd strats like having a main tank play goalie for adds or hiding everyone who isn't a warrior on a ledge somewhere that the boss can't see you. On top of that, I can think of one ZG boss in particular who gets stronger as he kills your raid members. Careless rogue #1 really doesn't matter in UBRS, where as careless rogue #1 can easly get you wiped in ZG.
Any way you cut it, ZG doesn't have people running pick up for it, because it's simply too hard without teamspeak/vent and good players.
Finding a 5-man pickup group to either of the two undead instances is tricky. Finding a 10-man group for UBRS is nigh-impossible, because people just don't think it's meant to be done that way. Contrary to popular opinion, UBRS is tuned for 10-man, not 15-man. However, people completely ignore what Blizz thing is a challenge, and so the high-end instances are something of a joke to waltz through with an overly large pickup group in an hour or two.
Ever been in a UBRS group where someone doesn't jump down for rend? I've seen groups wipe on the beast in UBRS before. Sad but true. Yes smaller groups can make it through UBRS, but typically they are either geared out players or all in the same guild. My guild runs through UBRS short on players all the time, but I wouldn't even bother trying with a pick up group.
Blizz realised this, so their next high-end instance (Dire Maul) was capped at 5 players, and ZG is tuned for roughly it's full capacity (20 people). No longer can you simply waltz in with superior numbers and collect your loots, since you no longer have a power advantage over Blizzard's expected level.
Please, If you actually played in a pick up group once in awhile you would realize it's not a waltz if you have people who just turned 60. Sure the content is easy if your in a group where almost everyone has full epic gear, but try running it with a pick up group where you have two goldfarmer rogues that don't speak english, a priest who just bought his account on ebay yesterday and a warrior who thinks he can tank with a 2 handed weapon and has no desire to "WAIT FOR HEALERS TO DRINK".
ZG is viewed as content for the 'elite' simply because it's the first one that the playerbase doesn't render overly easy.
No pickup group runs ZG. How often do you see "LFM ZG" in your looking for group channel?
These games are the biggest regret of my life. Seriously. I once spent over 1400 hours in one year playing one (back in the text days). That's seventy days, if you are counting.
I could have been getting good grades, chasing chicks, and figuring out what the "#$# to do with my life
Had you spent the 1400 hours chasing chicks, what do you think you might have had to show for it? Other than VD or a seriously brused ego?
Firstly i belive the two factions joining together is written into the lore of azeroth sooo tis ur fault for not reading it b4 playing (just jokeing far too long)
but www.wcradio.com's forums should help alot with lore aspects of the game.
If I wanted lore that I had some interest in, I'd play star wars galaxies. Like many world of warcraft players, I was never interested in warcraft that much, a friend asked me to try it out and the *gameplay* was so good that I was hooked.
Add to this that the war effort has alot to offer for lower lvl's:
1. You can hand in linen bandgages.... (show me a 60 who regularly grinds linen??)
Pretty much every level 60 I know has at least 1 low level alt. Plus mostly 60's were grinding linen in the deadmines the other night. It's a lot of fun to have them running through the low level zones killing quest objectives that noobs are trying to kill also.
2. You get kool boxes to open when u hand in items for the war effort.
Yes, they are pretty 'kool' if you like vendor trash/useless items.
3. Once you have gained your recognition singents you have a choice of useing them for more items or rep.
(As rep will be a contested point I'm lvl 48 and am grinding darnassus rep whilst its easier and i can do it with random drops, I will have a kitty:P)
Yes, the tiger you can get from darnassus is nice, but you could always turn in runecloth for that rep.
For higher lvl's if you cant raid mc zg then why not try and work up to it. My guild has recently started useing Guild Event Manager to organise in guild and inter guild runs to mc/zg with great success.
There are a lot of high level players I know that play for PvP, and don't want to do ZG/MC but basically get forced into doing it since they don't want to be outgeared. I personally do fine, the majority of my gear is epic and I'll probably finish my tier 1 armor soon. That doesn't mean I should overlook people who aren't happy with what the game is at level 60. As a matter of fact, I agree with them. Rep grinding isn't fun. 4 hour instance runs aren't fun. Not to mention opening the gates makes little sense if you are in a guild not doing AQ 40 but playing in the battlegrounds. You are going to end up opening another 40 man instance so guilds on the other side can get better weapons to kill you with? Sounds pretty silly to me.
Also don't expect epicxx from deadmines you should have to work for them.
Who ever said you should? Epic weapons aren't really the arguement here, who the content is being designed for is.
Add to all of this the fact that the population of Earth is already expanding at an alarming rate.
Actually, the population in Muslim Countries, Africa, India and China are expanding, the ones in the US and European countries are shrinking. As countries become more liberal, and more succesful in the world economy they have less children. The question is how to bring these countries up to speed. Some of them are on their way, others are not.
I mean, honestly, suppose Benjamin Franklin was around today. In his time, he was a learned man in many fields and a scientist, as well as a diplomat. But today, we've shot so far by him in the fields he student that he wouldn't have much more applicable knowledge than a teen would.
Franklin would be revived, and probably do the talk show ciricut and appear on American Idol. Seriously, Ben would have no problems nowadays since he would have instant star power.
I think a compelling question is, "Why would they want to revive Joe Shmoe?". Sure, I can see someone like Ben Franklin or Ted Williams being revived, but who is going to want to revive "Javalord"? Somehow I doubt my good Slashdot karma and java programming skills will be in demand 100-200 years from now. The question becomes especially relevant if cryonics 'caught on'. If you have 5 million people on ice, why would you revive them all? In what order do you actually revive them? Will the poor be less likely to be revived than the rich?
Actually, I'm in a guild that runs ZG/MC weekly. Many people who "Know how to play" think ZG has harder bosses than MC. Nobody ever runs a pick up group through ZG. There is a simple line between UBRS and ZG, where as the casual player can run through UBRS with strangers, you need a guild, vent/teamspeak, etc to do ZG and above. UBRS typically is run with 20 people over an hour or two, so I'm not sure where you get your '3 man in 20 minutes' idea other than the typical blizzard fanboy crap.
The war effort isn't 'cool' either. I played world of warcraft for the WAR part, not to team up with the other faction. They could have made it a competitive effort on the pvp servers. Of course, they haven't cared about pvp since last June.
If they continue to release carebear crap like this, and endgame super dungeons for the ubernerds, they will lose a good deal of their playerbase. Personally, I'm getting sick of having to do lame ass raids just to hang in the battlegrounds.
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The people at zetatalk.com thing planet x is still coming, so the nemisis theory must be true.
or something completely NEW!
Diablocraft?
Valve Software, posted high revenues for last year. The company showed an increase of almost 35% over 2004
Maybe with all that money they can buy a D+D book and figure out what the difference between the paladin class, and cleric class is.
I'd agree about everything other than rapeville, I wouldn't want to be raped by a 300 pound female version of Brian Peppers.
Nothing is Rare/Epic in WOW. It just takes longer to get. Hell most 60s are equipped in rares/epics.
Try joining a guild that is just starting molten core. Our guild went for the first time yesterday. We ended up doing a 6 hour run, cleared 3 bosses, with about 8 epics dropping. If you spend 6-12 hours on a weapon/armor, I'd say it should be pretty 'epic'.
Worse, its an ever escalating arms race. They keep out doing the last quest and now you have scads of level 60s running around with items that normal level 60 content can't threaten and worse, in PvP anyone not equipped on the same level is just shit out of luck.
I think the worst thing about WoW right now is that the pvp rewards don't even come close to what you can gain via pve in the same amount of time. The pvp system really needs to be revamped, especially the rewards....but from what I've heard it won't be until after the expansion.
Actually, I play WoW and I've seen and reporting people for calling other players 'faggots', 'niggers' and 'towel heads' (I have no clue why people use this). Most GMs will usually just blow you off for reporting this though, let alone the fact that the average wait time for a GM to respond is roughly 20 to 45 minutes.
Yes, it may seem to you like they are blowing you off, but they do suspend the player for this if they say it. I was once in a guild where one member called another the "N" word over and over again in guild chat, and he got suspended for it. He caught a perma ban for telling another player he was going to "Jihad you like an islamist". Blizzard does ban these people, they just don't tell the person who reports it about the fact that they suspend/ban them
Oh and last but not least, (at least on RP servers) you CANNOT talk to players on the other faction because they PURPOSELY scramble the chat (and yes, attempting to decode their filters is a bannable offense which leads to insane amounts of out of game communications and planning).
Pretty much every player I've seen in BG's uses unscrambled chat to say things to one another. I do as well, and I've never been reported/suspended for it.
Where is the sitcom to encourage men to be nurses or teachers?
So you don't complain about all the other players who use gay-bashing language, screaming "Faggot!" at anyone who pisses them off, and receive no punishment from Blizzard... But you claim inappropriateness when a GLBT group forms in an effort to counter this abuse?
If you report someone for that, they will get suspended, and if they are suspended three times, they get a perma ban.
After melinda started to donate their wealth, Bill started to change. behind every *less* rich man is a women. I fixed your comment. 3
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You can call him Dr Cockface for all I care, the media however should have higher standards and strive for neutrality. They also should respect the institutions of government.
I'd also like to point out that Bush was lawfully elected twice. While the results of 2000 were surely close, and a clusterfuck on top of that, 2004 was a clear victory for Bush.
Typically they are called 'former president' in the media. The media does this with everyone other than Bill Clinton. Listen for it. :)
The poll found that 53 percent of Americans approved of Mr. Bush's authorizing eavesdropping without prior court approval "in order to reduce the threat of terrorism"; 46 percent disapproved. When the question was asked stripped of any mention of terrorism, 46 percent of those respondents approved, and 50 percent said they disapproved.
And there you have the manipulation of statistics to prove a point. Had they ask the question "Do you approve of Mr. Bush's authorizing eavesdropping on terrorists without prior court approval" the numbers would have been even higher in favor of Bush.
Really, the liberal media needs to stop with the baby crap of calling Bush "Mr. Bush". He's the president, show some respect even if you don't agree with his policies and call him "President Bush". Also, for the love of god, stop calling Bill Clinton "President Clinton". It's former President Clinton, like you do for every other one.
One of the positive things about the Internet, is it's ability to give everyone a voice. I still have enough faith in the world, that those who what to do the right thing easily outnumber those that dont. Concepts like Wikipedia help to preserve the real facts of events because so many people have a vested interest in keeping the articles they contribute to error-free. Information is power, and the governments of the world don't understand that they no longer control the information flow.
Not really. Wikipedia still reflects the bias of those who are likely to contribute and edit. Just because a bunch of people say something is the 'truth' doesn't mean it is.
The guy from PHPGD.com doesn't like Java! What a suprise! Javalord replies to him questioning that he ever worked in the 'real world'. What a suprise!
Three candidates received electoral votes in 2004,
Did I miss something? No electoral votes went to anyone other than Bush/Kerry. Voting for a third party is a good idea even if they don't win, if they break a certain percentage of the vote (I think it's 3%?) they get federal funding in the next election cycle.
If one entity had the ability to accomplish 100% of the meaningful tasks in a given game, then there would be no reason for a game to be "Massively Multiplayer." By segmenting players into specialized classes, it forces people to team up.
A druid could main tank, main heal, or dps in dire maul in world of warcraft. Yet they could never get through the whole instance alone. People would have to team up just to overcome whatever monsters they are encountering at some point.
The Howard Dean for Iowa Game - launched at Christmas 2003 to help Dean supporters understand grassroots outreach and to encourage them to participate in pre-caucus campaigning in Iowa or in their local area. Ccommissioned by Dean for America, the game was the first ever official U.S. Presidential Election game.
Hah! We Bush supporters were playing command and conquer generals before this Dean game ever came out!
From Page 2 of the pdf:
...., IamJames85@yahoo.com...
ACHETA used the following usernames
That must have been a tough catch. Obviously this man is a super hacker.
The key reason why ZG is such a big step up from UBRS is because ZG is the first instance that cannot simply be steamrolled with more powerful characters/more players than needed. For most instances, many players can simply not imagine doing them at anything other than the higher end of Blizzard's level bracket. However, when you hit UBRS/Strat/Scholo, suddenly you can't simply get to a higher level, because these things are tuned for max level characters. So what do you do? You bring your buddies.
I think ZG is a big step up because the bosses are much harder. All of the bosses in UBRS and below basically have the strategy of "Main tank go get aggro, call for DPS after awhile and everyone else attack. Healers heal the main tank". Drak is a little different since you either double fear his buddies or do the hunter pull thing to take him out of the room for a bit.
The ZG bosses have wierd strats like having a main tank play goalie for adds or hiding everyone who isn't a warrior on a ledge somewhere that the boss can't see you. On top of that, I can think of one ZG boss in particular who gets stronger as he kills your raid members. Careless rogue #1 really doesn't matter in UBRS, where as careless rogue #1 can easly get you wiped in ZG.
Any way you cut it, ZG doesn't have people running pick up for it, because it's simply too hard without teamspeak/vent and good players.
Finding a 5-man pickup group to either of the two undead instances is tricky. Finding a 10-man group for UBRS is nigh-impossible, because people just don't think it's meant to be done that way. Contrary to popular opinion, UBRS is tuned for 10-man, not 15-man. However, people completely ignore what Blizz thing is a challenge, and so the high-end instances are something of a joke to waltz through with an overly large pickup group in an hour or two.
Ever been in a UBRS group where someone doesn't jump down for rend? I've seen groups wipe on the beast in UBRS before. Sad but true. Yes smaller groups can make it through UBRS, but typically they are either geared out players or all in the same guild. My guild runs through UBRS short on players all the time, but I wouldn't even bother trying with a pick up group.
Blizz realised this, so their next high-end instance (Dire Maul) was capped at 5 players, and ZG is tuned for roughly it's full capacity (20 people). No longer can you simply waltz in with superior numbers and collect your loots, since you no longer have a power advantage over Blizzard's expected level.
Please, If you actually played in a pick up group once in awhile you would realize it's not a waltz if you have people who just turned 60. Sure the content is easy if your in a group where almost everyone has full epic gear, but try running it with a pick up group where you have two goldfarmer rogues that don't speak english, a priest who just bought his account on ebay yesterday and a warrior who thinks he can tank with a 2 handed weapon and has no desire to "WAIT FOR HEALERS TO DRINK".
ZG is viewed as content for the 'elite' simply because it's the first one that the playerbase doesn't render overly easy.
No pickup group runs ZG. How often do you see "LFM ZG" in your looking for group channel?
These games are the biggest regret of my life. Seriously. I once spent over 1400 hours in one year playing one (back in the text days). That's seventy days, if you are counting. I could have been getting good grades, chasing chicks, and figuring out what the "#$# to do with my life
Had you spent the 1400 hours chasing chicks, what do you think you might have had to show for it? Other than VD or a seriously brused ego?
Firstly i belive the two factions joining together is written into the lore of azeroth sooo tis ur fault for not reading it b4 playing (just jokeing far too long) but www.wcradio.com's forums should help alot with lore aspects of the game.
:P)
If I wanted lore that I had some interest in, I'd play star wars galaxies. Like many world of warcraft players, I was never interested in warcraft that much, a friend asked me to try it out and the *gameplay* was so good that I was hooked.
Add to this that the war effort has alot to offer for lower lvl's: 1. You can hand in linen bandgages.... (show me a 60 who regularly grinds linen??)
Pretty much every level 60 I know has at least 1 low level alt. Plus mostly 60's were grinding linen in the deadmines the other night. It's a lot of fun to have them running through the low level zones killing quest objectives that noobs are trying to kill also.
2. You get kool boxes to open when u hand in items for the war effort.
Yes, they are pretty 'kool' if you like vendor trash/useless items.
3. Once you have gained your recognition singents you have a choice of useing them for more items or rep. (As rep will be a contested point I'm lvl 48 and am grinding darnassus rep whilst its easier and i can do it with random drops, I will have a kitty
Yes, the tiger you can get from darnassus is nice, but you could always turn in runecloth for that rep.
For higher lvl's if you cant raid mc zg then why not try and work up to it. My guild has recently started useing Guild Event Manager to organise in guild and inter guild runs to mc/zg with great success.
There are a lot of high level players I know that play for PvP, and don't want to do ZG/MC but basically get forced into doing it since they don't want to be outgeared. I personally do fine, the majority of my gear is epic and I'll probably finish my tier 1 armor soon. That doesn't mean I should overlook people who aren't happy with what the game is at level 60. As a matter of fact, I agree with them. Rep grinding isn't fun. 4 hour instance runs aren't fun. Not to mention opening the gates makes little sense if you are in a guild not doing AQ 40 but playing in the battlegrounds. You are going to end up opening another 40 man instance so guilds on the other side can get better weapons to kill you with? Sounds pretty silly to me.
Also don't expect epicxx from deadmines you should have to work for them.
Who ever said you should? Epic weapons aren't really the arguement here, who the content is being designed for is.
Add to all of this the fact that the population of Earth is already expanding at an alarming rate.
Actually, the population in Muslim Countries, Africa, India and China are expanding, the ones in the US and European countries are shrinking. As countries become more liberal, and more succesful in the world economy they have less children. The question is how to bring these countries up to speed. Some of them are on their way, others are not.
I mean, honestly, suppose Benjamin Franklin was around today. In his time, he was a learned man in many fields and a scientist, as well as a diplomat. But today, we've shot so far by him in the fields he student that he wouldn't have much more applicable knowledge than a teen would.
Franklin would be revived, and probably do the talk show ciricut and appear on American Idol. Seriously, Ben would have no problems nowadays since he would have instant star power.
I think a compelling question is, "Why would they want to revive Joe Shmoe?". Sure, I can see someone like Ben Franklin or Ted Williams being revived, but who is going to want to revive "Javalord"? Somehow I doubt my good Slashdot karma and java programming skills will be in demand 100-200 years from now. The question becomes especially relevant if cryonics 'caught on'. If you have 5 million people on ice, why would you revive them all? In what order do you actually revive them? Will the poor be less likely to be revived than the rich?
Actually, I'm in a guild that runs ZG/MC weekly. Many people who "Know how to play" think ZG has harder bosses than MC. Nobody ever runs a pick up group through ZG. There is a simple line between UBRS and ZG, where as the casual player can run through UBRS with strangers, you need a guild, vent/teamspeak, etc to do ZG and above. UBRS typically is run with 20 people over an hour or two, so I'm not sure where you get your '3 man in 20 minutes' idea other than the typical blizzard fanboy crap.
The war effort isn't 'cool' either. I played world of warcraft for the WAR part, not to team up with the other faction. They could have made it a competitive effort on the pvp servers. Of course, they haven't cared about pvp since last June.
If they continue to release carebear crap like this, and endgame super dungeons for the ubernerds, they will lose a good deal of their playerbase. Personally, I'm getting sick of having to do lame ass raids just to hang in the battlegrounds.