You could wonder if the same applies to your own organs. Do you OWN your organs ? Does the bunny ?
Say, I need a kidney or I will die. Let's kill a kid and take his kidneys. Let's take his heart as well while we're at it. (No point to wasting a perfectly good heart, right ?)
What is the difference between gutting a bunny for organs & gutting a human for the same purpose ?
Is the bunny's life worth less than mine ?
Ok, being very sarcastic here. But think about it for a second.
The only reason we do this is because we CAN. Not because it is right or wrong.
No point to being hypocritical about that. (i.o.w. I agree to most of what the parent posted.)
This will not create übersmart mice. At most the mice may have a bigger brain, but I wouldn't bet on it. So any reflections on the human-mouse "experience" are not very meaningful imho. The outcome of such a crossing will be a rodent.
There will be human-like traits, but these are probably not what you would expect. E.g. these man-mice may have higher resistance to certain toxins that are harmful to mice but not to humans, but they will not have chimp-level cognitive capacities.
Dna is universal enough that a mammal organism will "understand" foreign gene code and "interpret" it, based on it's own genetical context. Erm... let me rephrase that. If you bake dna cookies in a mouse oven, they will very probably come out mouse-like. In a rabbit-oven, they will be rabbit-like. (Ok, that metafore stinks. But you get the idea.)
In all reality, it is very hard to predict what the outcome of such a crossbreed will be. A gene is not restricted to one function, but might be involved in several processes (gestation, pigmentation, proteinfolding,...), on different hierarchical levels. Dna does not seem to have strict seperation between data and code, it's a chemical process that reuses itself as data, and the context or environment in which it "runs" has a *major* impact on the "choices" made. (parameters like temperature, sugarlevels, etc.)
Growing rabbit-embryos in humans will probably result in human-like abominations.
Well, look at it like this: As long as PHB want things implemented that they may not really need with technology they may not understand, *we* still have a job.
I for one welcome ou<connection reset by JSON-RPC Overlords> .
This is cool. On the fly updating of pages, fetching data from components on the server, without reloading the page. So, no more uploading complete business logic components with pages to avoid page loading each time the user changes a value in e.g. a 'Country' dropdown.
There may already be technology that can do in-page RPC to the server. But it's good to have more than one way to accomplish stuff like this, especially if it's free. And lightweight. (And a brand-spanking-new acronym to impress your peers with.)
Why not switch off Huygens when Cassini dissapears below the horizon, and switch it on for the next day? (titan's day is 16 days long..) The batteries lasted many hours after the landing, and the craft did cruise in standby mode for 16 days, so this might have been possible.
Perhaps that wasn't an option : Cassini went in orbit around Saturn, not Titan. I presume the Cassini probe would have been out of range of the Huygens probe after it buzzed by Titan to drop Huygens.
Also, I don't know how long it takes for Cassini to orbit around Saturn on it's current trajectory, but it probably does not coincide with Titan's 16 earthdays to do a 360 (let's say it has around 50% chance of getting line-of-sight with the Huygens landing site, and an much smaller chance of having line-of-sight AND getting within communication range.
(Plus, they changed Cassini trajectory to compensate for the doppler-bug in the communication equipment, further complicating things.)
But, this is a great idea otherwise. Maybe they could do something like this on future missions...
I bet a small onboard reactor could live long enough to power a heater for several weeks, so the batteries don't freeze empty.
But.... it is probably against ESA/NASA policy to put nuclear reactors in probes that could impact at high velocity with other celestial bodies. Prime Directive;-)
It would not be very smart to 'preemptively' attack a country that has WMD (eg. nukes or bio-weapons) and has the capacity to retaliate with these within a short timeframe. That would be a tactical blunder.
Preemptive attack is only suitable when the adversary is incapable of immediate retaliation with WMD (or something on a similar scale).
If the adversary already has the capacity to throw WMD at you, you don't attack, but you talk, politely. Except when the press is present you holler and beat your chest a bit, of course.:)
The fact that George "smokin' gun" Bush actually invaded Iraq, if anything, makes it quite clear to me that the GWB administration was pretty damn sure that Iraq did not have the capacity to pull off a retaliatory strike with WMD as a response to an assault; or for that matter, posess WMD they could toss at Israel or Kuwait, like they tried in the first gulf war with scud missiles. (Although these hardly qualify as WMD with their conventional payload.)
Well, what comes to mind (and is probably incorrect but I won't let that stop me, this *is* slashdot after all) is that if gravitational lenses like the sun can bend light from e.g. distant stars, perhaps a heavy body can bend gravity in a similar way. (remember this is just an unlikely hypothesis - don't shoot me.)
If the moon is exactly between the sun and earth this would mean slightly more gravity than just g-moon + g-sun because of the extra gravity bent towards earth around the moon.
I had a similar problem with a customer needing code ported from unix to windows 2000, with some unix specific stuff in the code like forking processes etc. (This was about two years ago) I looked around for several solutions and came across cygwin, which did the job.
The problem was that at that time it was property of Red Hat [http://www.redhat.de/software/cygwin/support/], who apparently were busy with anything but cygwin. Their website said something about $100.000 or something for a developer license, which was out of the question. Emails I sent were not answered, and i had to abandon the idea.
Similar story with Microsoft. The *one* guy i managed to get hold of wasn't even aware they had a product named Services For Unix. (Hello ?)
Different story with MKS. Unfortunately their toolkit was over-budget too, but at least they were trying to help me, and trying to sell me a product I needed, and very polite and helpful. (Kudos to miss K.:)
I hope for their sake they got their act together at Red hat about cygwin now, cause they probably missed an opportunity to make some bucks and more importantly get a foothold in a big japanese electronics company's development division.
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Too much burritos ?
Sorry, I'm already having Valve's Steam client eating up my computer's resources.
You could wonder if the same applies to your own organs. Do you OWN your organs ? Does the bunny ?
Say, I need a kidney or I will die.
Let's kill a kid and take his kidneys.
Let's take his heart as well while we're at it.
(No point to wasting a perfectly good heart, right ?)
What is the difference between gutting a bunny for organs & gutting a human for the same purpose ?
Is the bunny's life worth less than mine ?
Ok, being very sarcastic here. But think about it for a second.
The only reason we do this is because we CAN.
Not because it is right or wrong.
No point to being hypocritical about that.
(i.o.w. I agree to most of what the parent posted.)
"If anyone could shed some light on A) ..."
:)
This will not create übersmart mice. At most the mice may have a bigger brain, but I wouldn't bet on it. So any reflections on the human-mouse "experience" are not very meaningful imho. The outcome of such a crossing will be a rodent.
There will be human-like traits, but these are probably not what you would expect.
E.g. these man-mice may have higher resistance to certain toxins that are harmful to mice but not to humans, but they will not have chimp-level cognitive capacities.
Dna is universal enough that a mammal organism will "understand" foreign gene code and "interpret" it, based on it's own genetical context. Erm... let me rephrase that.
If you bake dna cookies in a mouse oven, they will very probably come out mouse-like. In a rabbit-oven, they will be rabbit-like. (Ok, that metafore stinks. But you get the idea.)
In all reality, it is very hard to predict what the outcome of such a crossbreed will be. A gene is not restricted to one function, but might be involved in several processes (gestation, pigmentation, proteinfolding,...), on different hierarchical levels. Dna does not seem to have strict seperation between data and code, it's a chemical process that reuses itself as data, and the context or environment in which it "runs" has a *major* impact on the "choices" made. (parameters like temperature, sugarlevels, etc.)
Growing rabbit-embryos in humans will probably result in human-like abominations.
So, no supermodel loveslave furries !
If Bill Gates donates Mega$$$, everytime unsavory pictures of him are making waves on the net, we know what to do, don't we ? :)
Well, look at it like this :
As long as PHB want things implemented that they may not really need with technology they may not understand, *we* still have a job.
I for one welcome ou<connection reset by JSON-RPC Overlords>
.
This is cool. On the fly updating of pages, fetching data from components on the server, without reloading the page. So, no more uploading complete business logic components with pages to avoid page loading each time the user changes a value in e.g. a 'Country' dropdown.
There may already be technology that can do in-page RPC to the server. But it's good to have more than one way to accomplish stuff like this, especially if it's free. And lightweight. (And a brand-spanking-new acronym to impress your peers with.)
- Not everybody has a Palm.
- What is the cost of a Palm that can run the NES emulator ? Over $90 ?
(I ask, 'cause I don't know. I'm already surprised that slashdot gets thru the corporate netfilter so no "look-it-up-foo" comments plz.)
Geez, why are women so vindictive ?
I bet that whatever he pulled wasn't even close to deserve something mean like this.
I'mean, come on, sleeping with her best friend... she should be angry at that girl, not him.
(Ignore this post.)
Why not switch off Huygens when Cassini dissapears below the horizon, and switch it on for the next day? (titan's day is 16 days long..) The batteries lasted many hours after the landing, and the craft did cruise in standby mode for 16 days, so this might have been possible.
;-)
Perhaps that wasn't an option : Cassini went in orbit around Saturn, not Titan. I presume the Cassini probe would have been out of range of the Huygens probe after it buzzed by Titan to drop Huygens.
Also, I don't know how long it takes for Cassini to orbit around Saturn on it's current trajectory, but it probably does not coincide with Titan's 16 earthdays to do a 360 (let's say it has around 50% chance of getting line-of-sight with the Huygens landing site, and an much smaller chance of having line-of-sight AND getting within communication range.
(Plus, they changed Cassini trajectory to compensate for the doppler-bug in the communication equipment, further complicating things.)
But, this is a great idea otherwise. Maybe they could do something like this on future missions... I bet a small onboard reactor could live long enough to power a heater for several weeks, so the batteries don't freeze empty.
But.... it is probably against ESA/NASA policy to put nuclear reactors in probes that could impact at high velocity with other celestial bodies. Prime Directive
Yeah, this sucks !
Now I will have to pay license fees to Marvel for my Lego-Pencil-Clay Doomsday device !
"ALL THAT FOR 90 STINKING MINUTES?!?"
Yeah, i feel your pain.
It's like going to the movies and paying for tickets.
He he :)
Seems like they also run linux on titan, but on a methane kernel.
Yeah, now we're sending Vergeltungswaffen across the solar system.
Werner Von Braun would be so proud.
In Soviet Russia, coffee breaks you !
Well, i 've always wanted do deck the walls in my toilet with dollar bills.
> I bet with modern composites to lighten the
> airframe, we could build one 1,000 feet long.
Yeah... until it runs into an stratospheric iceberg and breaks in half; killing Kate, Leonardo, and Celine in the crash.
(Hmm. Maybe this zep-zilla is not such a bad idea after all.)
Well then, now that we have the chicken dna, could somebody please explain why the chicken crossed the road ?
The self-proclaimed mathematics overlord should do something about his interpunction, though. ;-)
hmmmm.. time to plan a week of sick leave in november.
It would not be very smart to 'preemptively' attack a country that has WMD (eg. nukes or bio-weapons) and has the capacity to retaliate with these within a short timeframe. That would be a tactical blunder.
:)
Preemptive attack is only suitable when the adversary is incapable of immediate retaliation with WMD (or something on a similar scale).
If the adversary already has the capacity to throw WMD at you, you don't attack, but you talk, politely. Except when the press is present you holler and beat your chest a bit, of course.
The fact that George "smokin' gun" Bush actually invaded Iraq, if anything, makes it quite clear to me that the GWB administration was pretty damn sure that Iraq did not have the capacity to pull off a retaliatory strike with WMD as a response to an assault; or for that matter, posess WMD they could toss at Israel or Kuwait, like they tried in the first gulf war with scud missiles.
(Although these hardly qualify as WMD with their conventional payload.)
"Oh, by the way... I faked all my blue screens !"
Well, what comes to mind (and is probably incorrect but I won't let that stop me, this *is* slashdot after all) is that if gravitational lenses like the sun can bend light from e.g. distant stars, perhaps a heavy body can bend gravity in a similar way.
(remember this is just an unlikely hypothesis - don't shoot me.)
If the moon is exactly between the sun and earth this would mean slightly more gravity than just g-moon + g-sun because of the extra gravity bent towards earth around the moon.
I'll go tar and feather myself now.
I had a similar problem with a customer needing code ported from unix to windows 2000, with some unix specific stuff in the code like forking processes etc. (This was about two years ago)
:)
I looked around for several solutions and came across cygwin, which did the job.
The problem was that at that time it was property of Red Hat [http://www.redhat.de/software/cygwin/support/], who apparently were busy with anything but cygwin. Their website said something about $100.000 or something for a developer license, which was out of the question. Emails I sent were not answered, and i had to abandon the idea.
Similar story with Microsoft. The *one* guy i managed to get hold of wasn't even aware they had a product named Services For Unix. (Hello ?)
Different story with MKS. Unfortunately their toolkit was over-budget too, but at least they were trying to help me, and trying to sell me a product I needed, and very polite and helpful.
(Kudos to miss K.
I hope for their sake they got their act together at Red hat about cygwin now, cause they probably missed an opportunity to make some bucks and more importantly get a foothold in a big japanese electronics company's development division.
Cool !
A gun with a rate of fire that's expressed in MBps !