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Half Life 2 Goes Gold

AhabTheArab writes "IGN is reporting that Half Life 2 has gone gold. After months of speculation and delays, it is finally true this time."

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  1. Cool! by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't get enough of first person shooters! Why, there just are so many of them out there that I can't make up my mind which one to play. And it's not like they are at all similar to each other. The weapons in one are completely different from the weapons in the other ones. Also the enemies in one are completely different than the enemies in the others.

    I can't wait until next year when they update this with a booster pack that includes different weapons and enemies!

    1. Re:Cool! by gilrain · · Score: 1

      Has nobody considered that a chandalier, or some other overhead object, may have fallen and broken the pinata? Pinata-based reporting has a record of inaccuracy.

    2. Re:Cool! by space_jake · · Score: 0

      You obviously have never played Half-Life.

    3. Re:Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange... I got this post in metamoderation:

      Cool!
      by - on 15:09 Saturday 16 October 2004 (#10543817)
      [...]
      Original Discussion: Half Life 2 Goes Gold
      Rating: Flamebait.
      This rating is Unfair Fair


      But the apparent moderation is:

      Moderation +3
      40% Funny
      20% Troll
      10% Insightful


      Where is the Flamebait? Well, anyway. Needless to say, I metamod it as Unfair. I think that your humor is briliant! I admire you, Mr. Dancin_Santa, Sir.

    4. Re:Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The flamebait was washed away by the other three moderation categories.

      It's probably hidden somewhere in that missing 30% or so.

  2. In other news... by sparcnut · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hell reported to be experiencing record-breaking temperature lows. Predictions show that Hell will freeze over just about when Duke Nukem Forever goes gold.

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    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait a minute. Duke Nukem Forever is never going gold. Therefore, there is no problem. Whew. That was a close one.

    2. Re:In other news... by TAGmclaren · · Score: 4, Funny

      and here was me thinking "Steam" was just a Valve insider joke for the fact that HL2 was going to be Vaporware :)

      -- james

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    3. Re:In other news... by hexag · · Score: 1, Funny

      Which is interestingly correlated to a cat's chance in hell have been gradulaly improving for the past month. Rumours that the cat is actually in possesion of DN:Forever are unsubstanciated.

    4. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Which is interestingly correlated to a cat's chance in hell have been gradulaly improving for the past month. Rumours that the cat is actually in possesion of DN:Forever are unsubstanciated.


      That only makes sense if the cat is named 'Snowball'.
    5. Re:In other news... by Wakkow · · Score: 1

      I hear the developers are still "researching" the best way to animate the strippers...

    6. Re:In other news... by sosume · · Score: 1

      I figured that it would be after these porcy animals had learned how to fly..

  3. That's not what IGN is reporting by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Valve Software's Half-Life 2 has been submitted to the BBFC for certification, we've learnt this afternoon, news which adds credence to recent rumours that Vivendi is shortly to announce that the hotly anticipated first-person shooter sequel has finally 'gone gold'.

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    1. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Its already been leaked in France. I'm playing it as I type now but it seems a bit buggy. the controls only let me to drop my weapon or retreat.

      Kalinga

    2. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What do you make of the gamespot report though? They seem certain it's done.

      Also IGN did mention a shipping date - probably November. If Valve is *anywhere near* done with this game, late November / early December is the latest it will ship. They do NOT want to miss Christmas.

      While games aren't the center of my universe, Half Life was fun and the early technology preview demos of HL2 were very cool. With all the negativity over Steam and Valve's excuses for pushing back the schedule, I'd almost forgotten that HL2 may be a really great game after all.

    3. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, what the fuck is going on with you? haven't seen you around #plan9 for ages.

      Hope you are doing fine, take care /uriel

    4. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

    5. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people quit chatting on #plan9 when they realize that homosexuality was just a phase they were going through.

    6. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by delong · · Score: 1

      Valve Software's Half-Life 2 has been submitted to the BBFC for certification, we've learnt this afternoon, news which adds credence to recent rumours that Vivendi is shortly to announce that the hotly anticipated first-person shooter sequel has finally 'gone gold'.

      You beat me to it. Sloppy reading.

      Also note that as far as VIVENDI is concerned, the game is finished. Well, that isn't necessarily a vote of confidence for a polished product. As far as we know, Vivendi told Valve, "enough, you're f'in done, release it."

      Let's hope the game is a truly finished product, and that Valve soon confirms it "went gold".

    7. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL

    8. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      Doesn't 'gone gold' mean that a game has reached it's final state of code (which I think the BBFC would require in order to classify the game correctly)?

      We should really save all of our hype (which seems to be happening) until the game has been RTM.

    9. Re:That's not what IGN is reporting by DrSkwid · · Score: 1


      "gone gold" means that the developers have burned the final game to a CD to send to the pressing plant (from the days when blank CDs were gold coloured).

      Sending a game to the BBFC means that it has been sent for classification, the classifiers might refuse a certificate or issue a different certificate from the one hoped for by the author.

      If the BBFC issues an 18 certificate and the developer wants a 15 they will have to go back to coding which could potentially take a long time, depending on the changes required.

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  4. No by StevenHenderson · · Score: 5, Funny
    After months of speculation and delays, it is finally true this time.

    ...errr, or years.

    1. Re:No by lewp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Years are just a whole lot of months. I've been waiting for Duke Nukem Forever for weeks now.

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    2. Re:No by aztektum · · Score: 1

      More like year. Nobody even knew this game was in production until E3 2003 and they bullshitted w/ a fall 2003 release date. Now it's 2004.

      I dunno understand all the hubbub and bitchin' over this release date being pushed back. They only suggested it was gonna be released last year but it wasn't. Before last year this game wasn't even announced.

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    3. Re:No by StevenHenderson · · Score: 2, Funny
      Good point. :) However, sometimes it just doesnt sound right:

      "Hey baby - I can last for seconds!"

    4. Re:No by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 1

      I've been waiting for Duke Nukem Forever for weeks now.

      Hmph! I've been waiting mere nanoseconds!

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  5. What's it saying... by acceber · · Score: 1, Interesting
    ...when games where you shoot people (Half-Life) and games where you play God (The Sims) becomes one of the most important aspects for the lives of millions. Both of those games have gone gold.

    Does it reflect our desires or the nature of humanity to any extent?

    1. Re:What's it saying... by chadw17 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That we've simultaneously both evolved and returned to our base instincts since "Pong"? Or maybe it's just a game.

    2. Re:What's it saying... by c0p0n · · Score: 1, Troll

      dunno, but it's a c00l way to have Teh R34l Ult1m4t3 P0w3r.

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    3. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Uh, it seems to me that you're mixing up the term "going gold" (selling x amount of units) with the term "golden master." Golden master is a term for when a piece of finished software goes to the production plant to be mass produced. It is called the golden master because, at least at one point, the finished software was put on a golden master disc that was used to produce all the others.

    4. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Does it reflect our desires or the nature of humanity to any extent?

      In my view, yes, to a very small extend it does... but it is an extent many times smaller then the extent of experimental psycological research like the millgram experiments. which far predate DooM and half-life.

      Try comparing what these experiments showed about human nature compared to what the often observed but never scientificly proven desire among a group of people for shiny fast cars.... If you are excited about the things that sport car buying behaviour can tell us about ourself then you might just be a psycologist, the same goes for games I guess.

      You can speculate on what part of human nature these games expose. Personnaly I like to think they show that there is still a strong will to survive in even the most boring office dwellers. Little else would explain why a dark spacestation filled with creatures that can kill you, just not for real, can be excisting.

      Its funny (and perhaps a little telling) how people always talk about how first person shooters are about shooting other humans or creatures totaly ignoring that the player spends hours in an environment filled with entities that fight back, fiercly, and in a way optimized for player fear. Look at which first person shooters are a succes, its not the ones where you can shoot the most creatures (anyone excited for serious sam 3?), its the ones where even very few creatures can hurt you very bad, very fast, when you least expect it. The tactical shooters where getting spotted and hit once pretty much means game over are perhaps the most populair subgenre ever. This to me says something, just not as much as the stanford prison experiments. (Which btw, show some simalairity to the sims, shit, way to smash my own argument)

    5. Re:What's it saying... by jE · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, you see, games about getting out of bed, going to work, scooping cat poop into a bag and such never really took off.

    6. Re:What's it saying... by Gondola · · Score: 1

      A common misconception among people who don't follow the videogame release market is that "gone gold" means they've sold X copies of the videogame. Not true; "gone gold" merely means that the publishing house has declared that the game is ready to be mass duplicated and released to market.

      By implying something about a game that has "gone gold" means something about people, implies that the release is equal to popularity, which in this case, is a confusing comparison to the record industry (ie, gone gold, gone platinum, etc.)

    7. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      More to the point, CD-Rs used to all be GOLD, and very, very expensive. I remember days when discs were ~80 bucks a pop, and the recorders were $5000+

      It was a "golden master", because that's what you took to the plant to begin manufacture, and it just happens to have been colored gold, this applies both to music and software, too.

    8. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm, no. you're thinking of old lp records. they used a golden master as the original for all the other vinyl "copies"

    9. Re:What's it saying... by atari2600 · · Score: 1

      Oh piss off dude

    10. Re:What's it saying... by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, you see, games about getting out of bed, going to work, scooping cat poop into a bag and such never really took off.

      Except in Japan.

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    11. Re:What's it saying... by arkhan_jg · · Score: 1
      Well, you see, games about getting out of bed, going to work, scooping cat poop into a bag and such never really took off.

      Well, if you substitute baby poo for cat poo, you've just described Sims 2....

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    12. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're getting confused with vinyl records. This is 2004 - The "golden master" could be a freaking ISO sent over the internet. Unlike the "Golden Shower Master," otherwise known as your mom.

    13. Re:What's it saying... by gregorsamsa11 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That is one interpretation of the appeal of video games (shooters in specific), but I think you are overlooking the common desire to escape from daily life, to "pass the time". Games which are more challenging engage more of your consciousness, and thus provide more escape. For many, video games are and addiction. And, like all addictions, the dose administered must increase over time or it loses it's effect. This is why video games become progressively more complicated and extreme. They MUST, or else they will lose interest. This is analagous to the escalation of exploitation on "reality" TV shows. Each show seems to be more degrading to it's participants than the last. How long before an analogue of gladiators appears? But I digress...

    14. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh...I remeber that show...Gladiators...that was a funny gameshow...a couple of dumb skinny people go up against a bunch of big mucle-bound freaks for small sum of money. I loved that show :)

    15. Re:What's it saying... by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

      The games "going gold" doesn't mean that they've sold a single copy, it just means that the game is ready to be mass produced.

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    16. Re:What's it saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought "Gone Gold" would be a reference to the production of the Master Copy CD, before mass production of the title is done. As I believe the Master CD looks Gold as opposed to a normal CD (Silver).

      Its a theory, could be 100% wrong about that one.

      Dabbo.

    17. Re:What's it saying... by doodzed · · Score: 1

      Well, you see, games about getting out of bed, going to work, scooping cat poop into a bag and such never really took off.

      Besides the little game called sims. Ask around the office or school about sims? Bet you will be suprised who does. It will be secretaries, married folks... and ask them what other games they play?
      None....

      Huge lightly tapped market of folks willing to empty virtual cat poop.

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  6. Duke Nuken Forever by j0kkk3l · · Score: 0

    Duke Nuken Forever will arrive any day now!

    1. Re:Duke Nuken Forever by sharkey · · Score: 1
      Duke Nuken Forever

      The grey-market knockoffs are out BEFORE the original product? Duke Nukem Forever continues to set the standard for embarrassingly late completion.

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  7. No It Hasn't by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read the article on IGN (actually, it is Voodoo Extreme), and you will see that Valve has submitted the game to BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) and PEGI (Pan European Games Information) for rating. While this would most likely require the game to be in final build status, there has been NO announcement from Valve or Vivendi as of yet.

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    1. Re:No It Hasn't by r0j · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even the creator of this thread didn't RTFA, what is the world coming to?

      Dom.

    2. Re:No It Hasn't by neoform · · Score: 1

      I'll beleive it's gone gold once my Steam Account unlocks HL2 for me and let's me play it.

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    3. Re:No It Hasn't by j.bellone · · Score: 1

      You'll be waiting for it to hit store shelves then, because that's when Steam will 'unlock' it and allow you to play. Predictions anyone? I'm taking a guess for November 2nd.

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    4. Re:No It Hasn't by halowolf · · Score: 1
      Predictions anyone?

      Despite the fact that HL2 is sitting on my harddrive waiting to be unlocked, I predict that it will become completely irrelevant to me as Halo 2 is soon to be out and I am currently playing Tribes Vengeance. There is no room for another FPS in my life right at this moment. If HL-2 wanted to be bought and played by me then they should of got it released a damn sight sooner! :)

    5. Re:No It Hasn't by rpj1288 · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact that PC Gamer has reviewed a final build of it.

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    6. Re:No It Hasn't by j.bellone · · Score: 1

      I own an Xbox, Halo 2 means nothing to me. Neither does Halo. I don't enjoy playing FPS games on a console. But Tribes:V is a great game.

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  8. And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For those who haven't heard, Vampire: Bloodlines is a vampire game done by Troika. It also uses the Half-Life 2 engine and looks to be a very interesting game. Reports are that Vampire should ship soon after Half-Life 2.

    1. Re:And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by selderrr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't want to troll, but honestly, that game looks like shit. If this is supposed to show of the quality of the HL2 engine, well, I'm seriously disappointed.

      Look at the screenshots : the player models are rather low-poly. Not realistic at all (look at elbow junctions for instance... ) Not much more accurate than Quake3. The environment is very very very rectangular. Quake2 would approach this level ! The lightning is very ordinary, with polygon edges showing everywhere.

      If you compare this to Doom3, well the difference is HUGE... Can anyone else who has betatested confirm that this is HL2 quality ?

    2. Re:And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      We are pretty much done with the game. Due to contractual issues with Valve we are not allowed to ship it until 30 days after HL2's release date.

    3. Re:And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by j.bellone · · Score: 2, Informative

      This game is indeed running on the Source engine, but it's not the graphics quality that Half-Life 2 is on. I wouldn't go as far as saying it looks like crap though, I personally am looking forward to playing it, but it's not on the same level as Half-Life 2. I suppose that Trokia decided to keep the models on the lower end so that more of the fan base can play it.

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    4. Re:And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by Blublu · · Score: 1

      Yay! Yet another crappy flash page that wants to open a new window and go full-screen. No thanks, I guess I won't be viewing that website.

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    5. Re:And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by mzo · · Score: 1

      According to a beta tester at activision I know, the game is horrible and the loading times are insane. The part that worries me is he doesn't know if the loading times are from the engine or the vampire game, if it's the engine then that doesn't fare well for HL2...

    6. Re:And soon, Vampire: Bloodlines by randomblast · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and what's with the "Age Verification"?
      I wonder if this decision was made by an executive, or if the site designer's just stupid.

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  9. week by witte · · Score: 2, Funny

    hmmmm.. time to plan a week of sick leave in november.

    1. Re:week by Ionizer7 · · Score: 1

      If you want a good excuse, just tell your employer that you were bit by an African Tsetse Fly. Sometimes it takes weeks to recover, works for me everytime.

    2. Re:week by GFBurke · · Score: 1

      lol no kidd'n man. put my GT to work. ;)

  10. Well... by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What if Half Life 2 became available to download in a week's time, before it hit stores? Would Valve still release it ahead of time? Better yet, would people download it from Steam or get it for free anyways?

    Furthermore, I just want to take this moment and talk directly to developers and publishers who have worked so hard to get their games out just before this holiday season: Sucks to be you. This year is filled with some immense competition from a lot of sequels, especially in the console arena... Doom 3, Half Life 2, San Andreas, GT4, Halo 2, and I believe the newest Biohazard is coming out, as well as Metal Gear Solid, right?

    That being said, I just bought HL2 "Bronze" (I couldn't see myself spending $90.00 just to get a hat and a soundtrack).

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    1. Re:Well... by jaquesparrow · · Score: 1

      It's true that there will be a lot of competition. But the mere fact that majority of those aforementioned titles are such solid games that shows promise; they will all do quite well in their own regard. I mean I personally am probably going to pick up a ps2 just to play the gt4 and snake. I already have doom 3 and farcry; definitely going to get half life 2. These games are just good and respected. People will pay and the rest will pirate.

    2. Re:Well... by Tarrek · · Score: 1

      Oooo, but why not buy silver? I can't stand CS, personally, but Day of Defeat Source is teh wins, as the kids say these days.

    3. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It took halo2 what a week to before it was available.
      Taking bets that this will be released even quicker, anyone?

    4. Re:Well... by wpc4 · · Score: 1

      Well, I already have it on my system, as soon as they turn it on, I can start playing.

    5. Re:Well... by gabe · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've already downloaded the "preload" via Steam. I've paid the $60 for the Half-Life 2: Silver package via Steam (didn't want that extra swag either) , so, yeah - when Valve says it's done and it's on Steam, I'll unluck/download it and play it to my heart's content.

      My guess is they'll have to release it on Steam when it hits retail stores also to make Vivendi happy instead of litigious.

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  11. I need to see to believe by octal666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After all this time, I need at least a photo of something a bit on the golden side to believe ANYTHING about HL2

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    1. Re:I need to see to believe by GrAfFiT · · Score: 1

      I need to see to believe
      ..but will you live to see it ?

  12. what are you talking about by minus_273 · · Score: 5, Funny

    i've had it downloaded on my HDD for days...havent really played it though ;-p

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  13. Except. by raventh1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except for the litigation between Valve and VU, I'd believe you. With that going on, VU could hold the game and not even announce that it has gone gold. They can even hold the game until March if they wanted.

    When I see a Press Release, I'll finally believe.

    1. Re:Except. by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, but the longer VU sits on the game, the more pre-orders through Steam are rolling directly into Valve's pockets (via CS:Source) and bypassing VU.

      N.

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  14. This is still speculation by fresh27 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There has been no confirmation from Vivendi or Valve yet.

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  15. The same old story ... by orangeguru · · Score: 4, Funny

    New algorithms and canonfodder for armchair killers. I wonder how many times we can save the universe before itself self destructs because of boredom ...

  16. Deep Breath by alnya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There should be some sort of law against posting headlines like that - my heart went quite aflutter.
    Sadly, it's not true, and until Valve AND Vivendi issue a press release saying "Gold, and you'll be able to play it on this date" none of these "nearly gold", "almost gold", "so almost gold I can taste it" announcements really mean anything.
    Mod headline -1.

    1. Re:Deep Breath by gTsiros · · Score: 1

      Actualy, until i have the cd/dvd in my drive and the game is running and running WELL, announcements mean _nothing_

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    2. Re:Deep Breath by karmatic · · Score: 1

      The vivendi online store says it's on preorder, available Nov. 1

  17. And in 2008... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sometime in mid 2008, a computer actually capable of running the game will be announced...

    1. Re:And in 2008... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its supposed to be scalable...

    2. Re:And in 2008... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      Sometime in mid 2008, a computer actually capable of running the game will be announced...

      But with the final release of Longhorn means you either have the latest OS or Half-Life 2 - there are just not enough resources for both of them.

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    3. Re:And in 2008... by damiam · · Score: 1

      Um, there are computers from 2001 (and probably earlier) that will play it just fine. HL2 isn't that demanding, certainly not any more so than Doom 3.

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    4. Re:And in 2008... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I played Counter-Strike:Source on a TNT2 and a 1 Ghz processor. It didn't look very pretty, but it worked. The graphics card stress test got 16 fps. Looks to me like Valve has been true to their word that HL2 would be playable on that hardware config.

  18. Trust The Internet, It Doesn't Lie by BRock97 · · Score: 1

    How about online proof? Numerous game outlets (including EBGames) had moved the game back to the end of November for release. This morning, a brief search of sites (including EBGames and Vivendi's online store have the game shipping on November 1st!

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  19. This story... by sinner0423 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ..is all speculation. This is yesterdays news, and hasn't involved an official PR by Valve or Vivendi. As much as I would like this to be true, there aren't any facts to substantiate it.

    Between playing CS:Source and reading the steampowered.com forums, I'd be amazed that it will be available for a November release.

    There are tons of bugs, exploits, and cheats going around any CS:Source (HL2 powered) servers. IMHO, it looks like they really rushed CS out the door, and it's pissed off a lot of steam subscribers. I should only hope with the official gold announcement comes a big patch to address the many issues they've already got.

    1. Re:This story... by HexRei · · Score: 2, Informative

      CS:Source multiplayer hacks don't have much bearing on HL2, which is a singleplayer game...

    2. Re:This story... by www.fuckingdie.com · · Score: 1
      Agreed, It would be amazing for Valve to get anything useful out the door any time soon. I know we are all excited about the Halflife 2 Preloads that are sitting on our computers, but chances are that for every "Complete" gigabyte of the preload there will be 100 Megs of patching to be done. Just look at the current state of CS:Source, it is pathetic.

      To make a long story short, we are still far from receiving a viable product.

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  20. Dupe? by Vicsun · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember having read this story before... Damn those editors!

  21. What the hell does "gone/going gold" mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't be the only person who didn't understand this term: http://www2.tranceaddict.com/forums/archive/topic/ 207966-1.html

    1. Re:What the hell does "gone/going gold" mean? by sinner0423 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Terminology used when software is burned onto a "gold" cd that will be sent to the CD manufacturers to be reproduced. So named because of the CDR burnable CDs are gold backed normally. Also See Going Glass.

      Taken from Gamedev.Net

    2. Re:What the hell does "gone/going gold" mean? by slasher+guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From the Halo 2 Gold announcement (I'm not sure how accurate this is conserning pc games):
      "Gone Gold" is a somewhat archaic expression, since the "gold discs" are actually digital tapes and eventually silver discs. But it certainly feels golden. This basically means that the game has been shipped to retail manufacture. Somewhere in the world, a gigantic DVD pressing factory has started making Xbox game discs with the utterly complete version of Halo 2. Maybe there IS a gold disc somewhere. Perhaps it's time for an epic quest!

    3. Re:What the hell does "gone/going gold" mean? by peterpi · · Score: 1
      I worked on a couple of Xbox games in a previous job, and in those cases, 'going glod' meant FTPing the build up to the publishers.

      It was such an anticlimax ;)

  22. About time by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now we'll see if the game lives up to the hype it has been subjected to. Doom 3 suffered much from this (don't look at me, i loved it).

  23. In other news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As of today November 2nd, Half life 2 was leaked via the access to Gabe's password which he apparently changed from gaben to Gaben. So please. lets all gabe with Gabe.

  24. Is anyone else torn between... by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...using Steam to get HL2 vs. buying it retail? If I recall correctly you can only get the package that includes the Source rework of HL1 via online purchase and I *really* want that, but I still don't like the idea of dropping $50 or so on a game and not getting anything physical to hang on to. I know it's old-fashioned, but I still like having a backup copy to hang on to just in case my drive dies or something.

    1. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by sinner0423 · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...using Steam to get HL2 vs. buying it retail? If I recall correctly you can only get the package that includes the Source rework of HL1 via online purchase and I *really* want that, but I still don't like the idea of dropping $50 or so on a game and not getting anything physical to hang on to. I know it's old-fashioned, but I still like having a backup copy to hang on to just in case my drive dies or something.

      Amen to the "I want tangible stuff" comment. Check out this post for a solution. Basically, you'll have to archive all of the \steamapps folder with winrar, and back it up on DVD/CD. About 2 1/2 DVD's or a fsckload of CD's are your options.

    2. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by edo-01 · · Score: 4, Informative
      If you lose your PC or your hard drive you can just login to Steam from your new PC and all the games you bought can be downloaded again. I've done it on the three machines I use all the time. You can also copy the Valve directory from machine to machine over the top of a fresh Steam install.

      So, backup your Valve directory to a DVD-R, and if you ever lose that you can download it again any time.

    3. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      4) Select the "Store" compression method >>>
      (You can select best etc but using "store" will ensure that nothing gets corrupt during compression)


      Who wrote this nonsense? "store" is not a compression, and even if it was it would have nothing to do with the chance of things getting corrupt.

    4. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      I know it's old-fashioned, but I still like having a backup copy to hang on to just in case my drive dies or something.

      Not the answer you were looking for, but one none the less: If you have a DVD burner then you can burn the Steam directory to disc. I recently upgraded my computer and was able to move the folder without any problems - I did keep the path the same, but I am not sure if that is a requirement.

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    5. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Pantheraleo2k3 · · Score: 1

      Apparantly a 'fsckload' of CDs is 17 CDs. Hail again teh days of swapping disk after disk to run programs

    6. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Zangief · · Score: 1

      But, will you be able to play halflife 2 again, if sierra goes out of business?

    7. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Ravadill · · Score: 1

      Yes because Sierra has almost nothing to do with the Steam side of things, they are dealing with the physical distribution, Valve are running steam.

    8. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

      Worrying about your hard drive going out is pretty silly, considering that Steam lets you re-download a copy of your game to ANY computer onto which you've installed Steam and your credentials.

      In a way, it's the exact opposite...Steam IS the ultimate backup.

      -JT

    9. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Zangief · · Score: 1

      Do'h. Well, I restate my question...

      Will you be able to play Half-Life 2 if Valve goes out of business?

    10. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I pre-ordered the "Collector's Edition" from Ebgames.com. According to their webpage, it includes the following:

      Limted Edition DVD-ROM version of Half-Life 2

      Counter-Strike: Source - The next generation of the #1 online action game

      Half-Life: Source - Digitally remastered version of the original acclaimed PC game

      Free Limited Edition T-shirt - Offered in men's size XL only

      Half-Life 2 Prima Book - Information on character backgrounds, the making of the game, and more than 100 pieces of artwork

      Of course, this CE is $80. I almost wasn't able to justify spending that kind of money... then I noticed the free T-Shirt. Yay!

    11. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

      Not if Valve goes out of business, or Steam is shut down.

      I think Steam is a cool idea and I'll be using it to get HL2, (I'm an instant gratification whore) but I agree not having a packaged product is kinda scary.

    12. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by Halloran · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that in the past Steam has allowed you to input the CD key of a retail boxed copy so that if you lose the information you can later download it from their service.

    13. Re:Is anyone else torn between... by doodzed · · Score: 1

      I recently lost most of my cd's/boxes in an apartment fire. Hell, lost all my computers. I was still able to head on over to my parent's place, install steam and get some CS going.

      There are positives with steam. You are always some bandwith and an account away from gaming.

      Thank god my HDs with BACKUP cd images survived. Without my cd ripping software I would be even more SOL.

      Piotr
      PS. Protect your machines... store em low(heat + smoke) and kill power when evacuating.

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  25. About f time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GOOD. I was one of the stupid ones to preorder when it was first announced and the stupid store wouldnt refund my money even though they knew it ouldnt be out for ages. On the plus side I'm getting it for way less than RRP since I got in before the new taxes and duties came into effect.

  26. Certified != Gold by KombuchaGuy · · Score: 3, Informative

    if you look on the BBFC page http://tinyurl.com/6t96x you'll see that GTA:SA completed certification on 4th October, a week before going gold. Vampire: Bloodlines a week prior to that and that one hasnt even gone gold yet afaik. Factor in that the process takes a couple of weeks then you could still be looking at anything up to a month before it even goes gold.

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    1. Re:Certified != Gold by djenvee · · Score: 0

      Vampire: Bloodlines a week prior to that and that one hasnt even gone gold yet afaik.
      Bloodlines uses the same engine that powers Half-Life 2 - the Source engine. Most industry insiders believe that Bloodlines has been ready to ship for quite some time now, but hasn't been released since HL2 didn't ship when it was supposed to. Apparently Valve want the public's first experience with a source engine-powered game to be with Half-Life 2. I guess there's some clause to that effect in the engine licensing contract that Troika signed.

  27. You really have to love this by Wilkshake · · Score: 3, Informative
    The journalistic quality of these supposed news sites. All it is, is a bunch of news sites such as IGN, Computer and Video Games (Registration may be required) and Gamespot shifting about a whole bunch of rumours and maybees.

    Purhaps they should do what real journalists do and actually search out for the truth by contacting Valve or Vivendi Universal, rather than trying to connect the dots or use sources like "An Industry Insider". That way they don't sound like trashy womens magazines that get their sources from "Close Friends" and the like.

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  28. Already Reviewed by MisterTeabag · · Score: 1

    PC Gamer's latest issue has an early review of Half Life 2. They gave is a 98% rating and said it's "arguably the best game ever made".

    1. Re:Already Reviewed by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      Does that mean Half Life is no longer the "best game ever made" then?
      And presumably they'll make the same comment on HL3...

      talking of which, is HL2 a whole life, and will HL3 be a "life and a half"? Or is that just how long it'll take for them to be released....

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    2. Re:Already Reviewed by fcolari · · Score: 1

      The way things decay radioactively, it will take HL5 to accomplish that.

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    3. Re:Already Reviewed by FSWKU · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but the spread in PCG reads less like a "review" and more like "OMFG WE GOT TO PLAY HL2! *FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*F AP*FAP*FAP*FAP*FAP*" I've seen better reviews written by some of the AC's around here.

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  29. Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by the_bard17 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not too thrilled about it "going gold." So it's [B]finally[/B] going to be released. Booyah.

    What would really make my day is if they declared HL2 went gold [B]and[/B] they have a Linux client. Because until they get that second part down, the first is rather meaningless (for me at least).

    And don't tell me to get Windows if I want to game. I have my reasons :o).

    1. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Staos · · Score: 0

      This isn't UBB. You have to use HTML here.

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    2. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nice tags there :P

    3. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Atog006 · · Score: 1

      There can't be a Linux version untill DX9 is released for Linux

    4. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Linux? You populistic bastard!
      I'll wait for the BeOS port...

    5. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > And don't tell me to get Windows if I want to game. I have my reasons :o).
      yeah you are a stubborn blind anarcho

    6. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Trelane · · Score: 1
      Because until they get that second part down, the first is rather meaningless (for me at least).

      Amen to that. HL1 was entertaining; I'll likely pick this up when it hits the $10 rack. No support for linux == I'm not buying it anytime soon.

      They probably won't miss the 2% linux users out there, but we gotta vote with our wallet if we ever want to be heard. Same reason I need to get me Doom 3--Buy it when they release a Linux client, or get it Cheap if they don't. Show them we'll pay, but we won't be jerked around either.

      And don't tell me to get Windows if I want to game.

      I hear that. No reason to choose a platform for games--games simply aren't that important to me. For others games or a pet set of applications may well be that important. I try to vote when and where I can. Capitalism requires informed consumers who vote with their wallets to effect change.

      Bottom line: I'll support you as well as you support me. :) I try to keep up with vendors if they give me good support (Yay Intel! Keep on giving us great drivers like you are, and you can be sure I'll buy your chips!) I'll very likely also buy the next release of Unreal Tournament for that reason as well.

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    7. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by rsmith-mac · · Score: 1

      Issues of DX9 aside, there's a much bigger issue: the physics engine. The engine HL2 uses, Havok, hasn't been ported to Linux, meaning that it's impossible to make a client for Linux without some combination of getting the engine ported over and getting a Linux license from Havok.

    8. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by lurwas · · Score: 0

      The Doom 3 client for Linux is out "already".
      Check:
      http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid =33&threadid=1409904&enterthread=y
      and:
      http://www.fileplanet.com/files/140000/146367.shtm l

      gl & hf :)

    9. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Ethon · · Score: 1
      I'll likely pick this up when it hits the $10 rack.


      Plan on waiting a long while then....HL1 is still 30$+ at retail stores
    10. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Trelane · · Score: 1
      HL1 is still 30$+ at retail stores

      Sure... HL1 Platinum. HL1 + Many add-ons/expansions. I'd likely throw down $30 for that if I think I'll play it much.

      I bought Max Payne 1 for $10 about 6mo or something (1year? Nah, I don't think it was that long) after it was released.

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    11. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Trelane · · Score: 1
      The Doom 3 client for Linux is out "already".

      Indeedy. I plan on buying it RSN.

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    12. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya I'm a girl - do you have a problem with it, bub?

      No, not if you were born a girl, biologically speaking. But you're merely transsexual, and that's a problem. You're not alone though, lots of other Mac users are like you, and they might not see your deviation as a problem.

    13. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you can buy it second-hand - then (in theory) only the retailer makes any money and not the distributors.

    14. Re:Gold? Ok... but tell me about a Linux client by the_bard17 · · Score: 1

      Remind me not to post before I have my morning coffee... as for evidence, notice I used break tags but couldn't engage my brain well enough to use bold tags.

      *helpless shrug* If I remember right, I even previewed it, and missed it. I either need more sleep or more caffeine ;o)

  30. Gentlemen, Start your clocks! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    How long until "demi vie deux" is available ;)

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  31. You keep using that word.... by drxenos · · Score: 1

    "Gold" in this case means that its the final version, ready for sell. It does not mean "sold a million copies" as in music sells.

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    1. Re:You keep using that word.... by strictfoo · · Score: 1

      actually "gold" in the music biz = 500,000 copies
      Platinum = 1,000,000 copies

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    2. Re:You keep using that word.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, it depends on the country you're looking at, and whether you are talking about singles or albums.

      For example, in New Zealand (population 4 million approx.) the numbers are:
      Domestic Single
      Gold 5,000
      Platinum 10,000

      Domestic Album
      Gold 7,500
      Platinum 15,000

      It changes if you look globally, or if you look at a different market such as the US...

  32. I'd recommend looking at the movies by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I tend to disagree. To decide for yourself, you can check out the movies at the Yahoo preview. Personally, I'm amazed at what they've done with Half-Life 2's facial expressions.

  33. Full review of the game is on the newsstands by xigxag · · Score: 4, Informative

    PC Gamer's latest December 2004 issue has a very extensive review of the completed HL2 with loads of screenshots and spoilers. They call it "history in the making" and "arguably the best game ever made," finally giving it a 98% rating. For comparison's sake, the same issue also rates Call of Duty:UO at 93%, Evil Genius at 88% and The Sims 2 at 85%.

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    1. Re:Full review of the game is on the newsstands by cliffski · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which is total horseshit. You think PC Gamers 'exclusive' reviews actually use final code? dont be so naieve! the magazine will be allowed to play a beta copy under supervision from marketing people, and told that the numerous bugs and missing bits will be finished before it ships. In return for the 'exlcuive' they agree to give an unfinished game a 95% score, and both companies are happy. The poor schmucks reading PC Gamer usually dont realise whats going on.
      magazine reviews are total bullshit. if you want to know what a game is like, the ONLY way to know is to play the demo. If there isnt a demo, set suspicion=suspicion_max

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  34. Well, there goes the GPA! by JWJolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Professor: James, what's happened? It seems like your studies have become disorganized - and your test scores have taken a turn for the worse. Is there anything I need to know?

    Me: I'm having.. trouble sleeping, Professor. It .. it's hardest to watch for .. these.. these headcrabs.. especially at night.

    Professor: *leans closer* I know; scary little bastards.

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    1. Re:Well, there goes the GPA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wow, finally a college where professors [i]do[/i] know students' names and actually talk to them!

      mind telling me what college?

    2. Re:Well, there goes the GPA! by gabe · · Score: 1

      Me: Oh no! Professor! Look out!

      Headcrab: *gobble*

      Professor: ga-monk?

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  35. Cedega? by JimmehAH · · Score: 2, Informative

    It shouldn't be too long until that can run HL2 in all its DX9 glory. It can probably run it fine in DX7/8 already.

  36. In related news... by alt-j · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some "jerk" in the production line has swiped a copy of the French version...

    The only weapon in the French version allows you to shout obscenities at each other until you pass out.

  37. My Steam just started re-downloading HL2 by CalTrumpet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yesterday, it had told me I had "100%" of the preload (Silver Pack), and now that dropped to 80% and its downloading again.

    Perhaps this is a seed of the final changes. I wonder if Steam can do incremental patching of the other preloaded content. Seems likely now.

    1. Re:My Steam just started re-downloading HL2 by Chiisu · · Score: 3, Informative

      i don't think Steam can

      the first big preloads for HL2 were the artwork and sounds, which Valve stated were set and wouldn't change. the most recent preload phase downloaded the maps of HL2, as those were likely worked on most recently. now, the executables are being worked on.

      as the files are mostly huge .gcf files(encrypted compressed format), i doubt small changes could be made.

    2. Re:My Steam just started re-downloading HL2 by emazing · · Score: 1

      Hey. try actually going to the Steam website. There are different preload phases, and they released preloaded the maps.

    3. Re:My Steam just started re-downloading HL2 by myc_lykaon · · Score: 1
      downloaded the maps of HL2

      If the maps are only just being made available for preload, then what was submitted to VU for approval by Valve back in August? A game with no maps?

    4. Re:My Steam just started re-downloading HL2 by Chiisu · · Score: 1

      no, the full game was sent to VU

      however, the maps were not sent to Steam users until the game was approved at VU, and no more changes needed to be made

  38. OT "Closet Conservative" by oldosadmin · · Score: 1

    I'm really not a "closet conservative", but I learned to stop arguing politics a long time ago, because nothing good comes from it.

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  39. HL1:Source is available retail by Chordonblue · · Score: 1

    ...If you get the 'collectors edition'. That's also the only one they are releasing on DVD.

    I pre-ordered mine at EB yesterday. $79 for a game? Yeah, I'm their bitch... :)

    Here's the link:

    http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/243836.asp

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  40. So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll say it again: So What?

  41. Get an xbox by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    And don't tell me to get Windows if I want to game. I have my reasons :o).

    Get an XBox then, since I hear it will be made available for the console. More more money to MS, but its just not for Windows ;)

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    1. Re:Get an xbox by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Informative

      See here for information on HL2 for the XBox.

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  42. So does it have... by ChrisK077 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So does the retail version also have the MS-like product activation "feature"? Well, Microsoft has forced that down my throat once with XP, but since I'm interested but not an avid ego shooter fan, this could definitely be a reason for deciding against purchasing it, regardless of how much praise the game gets...

  43. once it's on suprnova.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    see subject

    1. Re:once it's on suprnova.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's when you know it WILL go gold and the rest of the world will be able to buy it real soon. :)

  44. Oh oh I know the answer! by UncleJam · · Score: 2, Funny

    gaben

  45. Uh...gold? by ZeeCog · · Score: 3, Informative

    First of all, this is 2 or 3 day old news. Second of all it does not indicate that Half-Life 2 is gold. Third of all, where is the official announcement?

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    1. Re:Uh...gold? by ZeeCog · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute...when I tried posting this comment it claimed there was an error :P.

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  46. Gold? by ZeeCog · · Score: 2, Informative

    First of all, this is not bleeding edge news. This was known a couple days ago: http://www.halflife2.net. Second of all, even this news does not constitute gold status. Until Valve officially announces that the game has gone gold (which I will admit will probably happen on Monday) I don't want to hear any more rumours or speculation.

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  47. he said that she said that.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot is saying that IGN is saying that Computer & Video Games said that a strictly anonymous insider said that "as far as Vivendi is concerned, the game [Half-Life 2] is finished." Does this remind anyone of a bad rumor circulating in high school?

  48. Umm.. I still can't BUY this game, but it's GOLD?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell man .. this game isn't even OUT yet. More hype than Kerry's purple hearts...

  49. Don't celebrate yet... by Whammy666 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is not a gold announcement. It just says that Valve has applied for a game rating. Plus you need to keep something in mind. Even if Valve does make a gold announcement, it doesn't mean that HL2 is going to ship anytime soon. If you remember, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero went gold and then it took another 6 months before it finally hit the store shelves. And don't forget that little legal dispute between Valve and Vivendi which could keep HL2 off the shelves.

    The deal is that Valve has no real control over when the game ships. So a gold announcement from Valve is largely meaningless in terms of when it's going to ship. Wait for an *official* announcement from Vivendi (not Valve) because they are the ones who have the final say as to when it going to ship.

    Ideally, if everything goes well, HL2 might be on the shelves in late November because it takes about 6 weeks from going gold to reach the stores. Also, buying thru steam won't let you get it any faster. Valve cannot release HL2 thru Steam until it appears on retail store shelves.

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  50. What the hell is wrong with you morons? by trauma · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Morons being the story submitter and editors who published it in its current form.

    I fail to see any indication anywhere, even in the text of the linked story itself, that this is any different from any of the other hundred rumors. It is entirely conjecture and extrapolation of information coming entirely from third-party sources, nobody official will confirm anything, yet suddenly "it's finally true"? This has only slightly more credibility than the dates on pre-order diplays in Game Stop from 6 months ago. But by all means, phrase the headline and synopsis in the most sensational way possible with no regard for the facts whatsoever.

    Bye bye karma.

  51. Don't get your hopes up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember that we're dealing with Valve here, folks, and they lie about release dates.

    In the case of Counter-Strike: Condition Zero, Gabe Newell announced in September 2003 that the game had gone gold and would be on store shelves October 17. In reality, it wasn't released until late March 2004. Now I ask you, how can you delay a game for six months after it's already gone gold?

  52. Everyone--why Half-Life 2 indeed HAS gone gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Computer and Videogames reports that, "As far as Vivendi is concerned, the game is finished."

    Valve hangs a pinata in their office to be broken when the game goes gold (Here's a picture of it in pre-broken state). Gamespot has learned from an "informed source" that the pinata has been broken.

    When the game is submitted to the BBFC as this is reporting, it means it is a final build and we can expect a gold announcement on Monday.

  53. They're not mixing up anything by Guspaz · · Score: 1

    In the gaming industry the term that a product has "Gone gold" means the golden master has been produced and is ready for duplication. This term has been commonly used for years. For proof, go look up the announcements for major games over the past few years that a game has gone gold. They're not referring to having sold a certain number of copies.

  54. Possible leaked press release? by teknikk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Spotted this on a certain messageboard, either an actual leaked press release (in which case it's a kick in the nuts), or it might be a fake.

    quote:
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    HALF-LIFE 2(TM) HAS GONE GOLD

    LOS ANGELES, Calif. (October 16, 2004) - Vivendi Universal Games announced today that Half-Life 2, the highly anticipated next installment in the best-selling and beloved franchise, has gone gold and will be released December 6th in North America, and December 20th in Europe.

    "Half-Life 2 offers an unprecedented gameplay experience," said Michael Rouling, EVP, Vivendi Universal Games. "It features the most advanced AI ever seen in a game, combined with state of the art graphics and sound.".

    Developed by Valve, Half-Life 2 is the highly anticipated sequel to the best selling Half-Life title, named "Best PC Game Ever" by PC Gamer. By taking the suspense, challenge and visceral charge of the original, and adding startling new realism and responsiveness, Half-Life 2 opens the door to a world where the player's presence affects everything around him, from the physical environment to the behaviors even the emotions of both friends and enemies.

    The player again picks up the crowbar of research scientist Gordon Freeman, who finds himself on an alien-infested Earth being picked to the bone, its resources depleted, its populace dwindling. Freeman is thrust into the unenviable role of rescuing the world from the wrong he unleashed back at Black Mesa. And a lot of people he cares about are counting on him.

    Half-Life 2 carries a suggested retail prices of $54.95 and has been rated "M" for Mature by the ESRB with descriptors for blood and intense violence. For additional information please go to www.half-life2.com.

    About Valve
    Founded in 1996, Valve creates entertainment software titles, including Half-Life®, Counter-StrikeTM, and Team Fortress®. Valve's portfolio accounts for over 12 million retail units sold worldwide, and over 88% of the online action market. More information about Valve is available through the company's Web site at www.valvesoftware.com.

    About Vivendi Universal Games
    Headquartered in Los Angeles, VU Games is a leading global developer, publisher and distributor of multi-platform interactive entertainment. Its development studios and publishing labels include Blizzard Entertainment, Sierra Entertainment, Fox Interactive and Massive Entertainment. VU Games' library of over 700 titles features multi-million unit selling properties such as Warcraft, StarCraft and Diablo from Blizzard Entertainment; Crash Bandicoot, Spyro The Dragon, Empire Earth, Ground Control, Tribes and Leisure Suit Larry.
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    1. Re:Possible leaked press release? by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      $55, no thanks. I am going to wait for this game to come out with 10 patches first.

      If memory serves me correct, last time I bought Doom III for $55, it sat on my shelf collecting dust because my overpriced ATI Radeon 9800 pro somehow wasn't good enough. After the Catalyst drivers finally worked out, the game was already down to $39 in some places.

    2. Re:Possible leaked press release? by syvanen · · Score: 1

      Lots of hoaxes going on in the boards. You should check who is the sender.. and is the message on www.halflife2.net www.hlfallout.net or www.planethalflife.com

      I just wouldn't trust any other boards..

  55. Re:OMG have u seen the new HL2 trailer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh? what new trailer? where?

  56. Did hell just freeze over? by Incoming9000 · · Score: 1
  57. Jokes aside... by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Informative

    the mark of a _good_ FPS is the weapons and level design working together to make the gameplay different and interesting. Take Unreal Tournament vs Quake III. I find the latter emphasizes accuracy while the former clever use of resources. Or compare the level layout of say, Duke Nukem 3D with the orginal Half-Life, where Duke has numerous alternate routes (but not much story) compared to the more linear, story driven Half-Life.

    Weapons can drastically change how you play. In Quake I, ammo was so limited you were often forced to run (anyone ever actually kill a shambler w/o cheating and/or wasting all your nail gun ammo?), Quake II has plenty of ammo, but it was well distributed between all the guns (and the level design meant they where all useful at some point), so you did fine on ammo as long as you made good, stratigic use of your weapons.
    We've come a long way since Wolfenstine/Doom. But yeah, there's a lot of mediocre crap out there. Just avoid that junk. There's plenty of first rate titles.

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    1. Re:Jokes aside... by Radix37 · · Score: 1
      (anyone ever actually kill a shambler w/o cheating and/or wasting all your nail gun ammo?)

      Uh yeah, how about with the axe? On Nightmare skill? Without getting hit? I've done that many times.

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  58. You are truly a breath of fresh air in comedy by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

    Gravity gun.

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  59. Who the hell cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. HL was crap, CS was good until about beta 7. The source code is already on the internet for this game, which I think was a marketing ploy more than an accident to buy them time.

    Because of the source being on the web, do you REALLY think there's not already cheats out there? The game is going to be worthless other than for single player for that very reason and thus not worth more than $20.

    1. Re:Who the hell cares? by C0rinthian · · Score: 1
      game is going to be worthless other than for single player
      Good thing it's single player, huh?
  60. Re:Thank you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I missed that one. Got a link?

  61. Half Life 2 vs Farcry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know about you guys, but FarCry absolutely rocks. The engine is gorgeous - lush, expansive outdoor scenes. Just absolutely beautiful, with excellent gameplay. I hope HalfLife 2 is just as good or better.

  62. If this works... by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    doesn't it make pirating the singal player game trival? I think what everyone is worried about is that Valve will have some kind of verification system in place that like MS Product Activation. I can live with Microsoft doing that, because a) I don't have a choice and b) Microsoft isn't likely to be wiped out in a re-org before my copy of Windows XP is obsolete (in the literal sense, that is, I can no longer find hardware to run it).

    What Valve should do is store a unique product # based on a key somewhere in the system/registry (probably at random, using some algorythim) so that when you go to run the game from your back ups and the PID isn't there, it asks for your key again. If they're doing something like this I'm all for steam, and as soon as valve releases a game I want I'm all for it (Half-Life just isn't my cup of tea).

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  63. Holy crap, press release might be real... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Found this on ESRB's site, it has been rated...
    Half-Life 2 Sierra Entertainment (Vivendi Universal) PC CD-ROM Mature (17+) Blood,Intense Violence 10/9/2004

    1. Re:Holy crap, press release might be real... by dvanduzer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Counterpoint just a couple entries below:

      Halo 2 Microsoft Online,XBOX Mature (17+) Blood and Gore,Language,Violence 7/8/2004

    2. Re:Holy crap, press release might be real... by space_jake · · Score: 0

      Counter-Counterpoing Mind you that Halo 2 has gone gold as well...

  64. bout time by pawnIII · · Score: 1

    Bout time they announced HL2 went gold, considering the source code has been sitting on Steam(people who bought a copy using steam, had an unactivated HL2 on their hard drives) users hard drives for a week or so. Pretty awesome that they already gave steam users the ability to download the game pre-release, though they can't play HL2 till it goes on sale in retail establishments.

  65. Yeah... by TheBot · · Score: 1

    And pigs fly.

    1. Re:Yeah... by Mazaev2 · · Score: 1

      With enough thrust....

  66. Yeah ok.... by Sam+Jackson · · Score: 1

    I can't shake this feeling that I've already heard this news already??? Or maybe I'm just stupid, and I need a lot of sleep.

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  67. Gabe Newell Shot! by EvilMidnightBomber · · Score: 2, Funny

    The plan: to bust the sucker (piñata) open when the game achieved goldIn other news, Bellevue, WA police arrived at VU games this morning to discover a bizarre scene after responding to a call of attempted homicide. On site, officers discovered two additional piñatas cowering in the corner of the room babbling "My god, what are you doing?!" "Stop attacking! He's a friend!" and "Are you insane?". Suspect, and company director, Gabe Newell, was taken to Bellevue-Sinai hospital still clutching what appears to be a gold-plated crowbar and is listed in critical condition after being shot by VU security, who, clearly shaken by the whole incident, could only keep commenting ""Hey stop that!" and "Are you crazy? Leave him alone!"

  68. Re:Not really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    think it's wierd how Slashdot always complains and bashes Bush, and yet half of the nation thinks he's done a good job

    How could this be???

    Maybe Slashdot does not represent half the nation?

    Then there's the old adage, "You can fool all of the people some of the time and you can fool some of the people (maybe 50%!) all of the time."

    I really want Bush to win at this point, because if Kerry wins, he's a definite one-termer because of the terrible mess he's been handed, thus leaving the door open for yet another soul-crushing Republican "compassionate conservative" to step in, take credit for the slight improvement made under Kerry, and dig another enormous hole that'll take even longer for the country to get out of.

    No, let Bush win, fuck the whole country up, then somebody better than Kerry get in and have 8 years to fix the country. Assuming that there's one left post-Bush.

  69. ... In Japan by boy_afraid · · Score: 0

    Half Life 2 Goes Gold... In Japan!

    I won't be holding my breath!

  70. shouldn't it be.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    before itself self destructs

    before it itself self destructs

    1. Re:shouldn't it be.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      before it itself self destructs
      ...before it self destructs...

  71. Gold? by complete+loony · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'll believe it's gold when someone here posts a torrent / emule link.

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  72. Someone telling porkies? by myc_lykaon · · Score: 1

    I had a look at Steam News - on Oct 14th Valve started preloading the maps. Does this mean that only now they have the final maps and that their 'announcement' that they had handed the final game to VU in August was a lie? Or does it mean it takes Valve 3 months to prep an update to Steam?

  73. Re:Umm.. I still can't BUY this game, but it's GOL by squall14716 · · Score: 1

    Well duh. If a game doesn't go gold before it is released, people would be buying "OMGZ IT'S ALMOST FINISHED" copies.

  74. Re:HL2 != Doom3 by space_jake · · Score: 0

    In The in-game benchmark for CS:Source I get an average framerate of 63 FPS and I have a GeForce FX 5200. If I'm staring into a corner with no models just walls I can get that in Doom 3. Granted CS: Source probably doesn't push the bar graphically and with in game physics as single player HL2 will but the engine itself runs beautifully with a crappy video card. So I don't think you'll have that problem. HL2 looks more processor driving and Doom3 is more GPU driven.

  75. Reviews are going to be meaningless by petrus4 · · Score: 1

    >PC Gamer's latest issue has an early review of Half >Life 2. They gave is a 98% rating and said it's >"arguably the best game ever made".

    Not to say that it isn't going to be awesome...I think it probably will be...but there are some games/game companies that are unfortunately beyond genuinely objective reviewing. Id were the first, Epic were probably the second, and now Valve. If John Carmack had a really violent attack of diarrhea, wrapped it up in newspaper, and sent it to either PC Gamer or Gamespy in particular, it'd get reviewed at 98%.

    Game reviews these days are only likely to be marginally objective when they're about offerings from a relatively unknown company. I'm not saying id and the other two companies mentioned above aren't made up of enormously talented people; of course they are, and we all know that. But just because we know they're as talented as they are doesn't mean we should automatically expect that a new game from them is going to be the best yet, purely because all the others in the past were. Each game needs to be assessed purely on its own merits, not just because it comes from a company that has had X number of other successes in the past. Everyone has bad days, and everyone has misfires, regardless of the level of their intelligence. Wait until the game is in your hands and you've played it for at least a few hours before forming an opinion either way, and try to base said opinion purely on *that individual game*, not on the fact that the game is from Valve or id or whoever.

  76. Now it's REALLY gold!!! by Llevar · · Score: 1
    LOS ANGELES (October 18, 2004) Vivendi Universal Games (VU Games) today announced that Half-Life® 2, the sequel to one of the most critically acclaimed PC titles in gaming history, will ship to retail outlets around the world in November. The Company confirmed that Half-Life 2, developed by Valve Software, has gone gold with a planned retail street date of November 16, 2004. The countdown to the highly anticipated retail street date has begun around the world, as VU Games completes plans to ship localized versions of Half-Life 2 simultaneously in English, French, Spanish, Italian, German, Traditional and Simplified Chinese, Korean, Thai and Japanese.

    "Half-Life 2 has surpassed our expectations in every sense - its high-quality graphics, ground-breaking physics and immersive first-person shooter gameplay set a new standard for PC action games," said Bruce Hack, CEO of VU Games. "Half-Life 2 will go down as one of the best-selling PC titles, and we are thrilled to deliver this ground-breaking title to the worldwide gaming community this fall."

  77. press release by dfj225 · · Score: 1

    Well, it is now officially official :) Here is a link to the press release: http://www.vugames.com/news_story.do?storyId=1963

    Now, when can I unlock it through Steam?

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