FWIW, there are some SAE standards that cover this stuff, but it seems to only be the heavy vehicles that use them. The car/consumer applications still use proprietary codes over standardized interfaces.
Would you buy a car if you're not allowed to reverse engineer the ECU to reset the Service Due light after changing the oil yourself? Oh, and if you do that anyway, you'll be charged under the DMCA and sent to PITA prison.
IBM is already very very very open source friendly. Sounds like HP is just jumping on the bandwagon. Selling support for OSS software isn't really "cozy" either - it's just leaching onto a growing market share. Call me when they start contributing to the code in a meaningful way, or helping folks no IRC.
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Don't do that. CF has a limited number of write cycles (100,000 or so, typically), and swapping to it will kill it quite quickly.
The real question is, why does a random company sit down and try to develop a complete MS Office competitor based on Java, when there already exists such a beast? Well, two such beasts if you count OO.o and SO separately.
Ideas are free, but they are also worthless if you do nothing with them. The idea doesn't have to cost anything, and neither does the process of making that idea useful, but somewhere down the line if you use that idea to make money it does have to come from somebody's pocket. Sometimes it's from similarly minded folks, and sometimes it's from lots of folks working in dead end jobs, paying taxes, and just living day to day. On a bigger scale and in a relatively closed economy this can be a problem depending on how the money is flowing.
I wonder. Are the intentions good, or is the intention simply to look like they have good intentions? My understanding of Chinese cultrure is that face is often more important than reality."Yes, we've got a program to clean the water for the villagers" * refills glass from bottle of imported mineral water * It's hard to take well meaning politicians seriously when they are so far removed from the problems and the people (This goes for everywhere, not just China).
The problem is that there's a fixed amount of money in circulation at any given time. For people to get richer, the money has to come from somewhere - if it doesn't, you've got crazy inflation to worry about.
I wonder what sort of increase the MacOS server market showed? It also means little if servers are being shipped with XP or even no OS, and being loaded with Debian after delivery. I doubt it takes into account systems built in-house either. Statistics show only what gatherer wants them to show.
Joking aside, it probably wasn't such a bad way for them to go. Remember the frog in a pot experiment? If the temperature rise wasn't too sudden, there's a fair chance they didn't suffer too much. And once the heat stroke sets in, i imagine they'd be somewhat delerious anyway.
Oracle has so many cache levels and tuning options going on it's pretty easy to have it running slow. To be fair though, if basic MySQL does the job, you don't even need to look at something as complex (and complete) as Oracle. IMHO, a happy medium is either SAP DB / MySQL Max or Postgresql.
I believe that, but I've always had trouble with the cost of moving data around the Internet. I mean, it's not like fibre optic cable wears out faster the more bits you push through it. It seems to be more about supply/demand than any "real" factors.
I don't think they're trying to sell the idea to the public. They're selling it to people who want to extract money from the public, and the benefit is not time savings but lower running costs (read, less staff). I'd say it's aimed at large retailers and mass media.
Fedora is the free RedHat stable branch. How hard is this to comprehend?
Fedora is the free RedHat TESTING branch. There is NO stable and free RedHat anymore. Get that? Stable is the WS/ES/AS line.
They use the same major versions of the Kernel, Gnome, KDE, etc. etc. etc. How is SuSE 9.X a "stable release" while Fedora is "a rolling baseline"?
Fedora says they schedule releases 2-3 times a year. That is a joke for any system that actually gets used in the real world. The current versioning is nice timing for your argument, but 3 months from now it'll be a new release with new bugs and new holes. 3 months from now SuSE and Mandrake will be that much more secure and stable, and a year or two from now you might want to think about updating. As you've posted already, you're a keen RedHat fanboy from way back and you use RH9/FC1/FC2 in your office, but wailing about how equal you think your favourite distro is won't accomplish anything. And no, I don't expect you to agree with my opinion or admit you made a mistake deploying it in a production environment.
Why? Seriously, what's cool about having a small wireless phone? It's just a telephone. Useful at times certainly, but cool? I didn't think much of Maxwell Smart's shoe either.
Silly trollbot! It's not free they're competing with. While the master (the broadcast) is free, the copies were being "mass-marketed" not given away. The media co already has the master for "free" (read already paid for) so at the point the pirates (arggh matey!) get it, they're on an equal footing.
Good point, although I thought part of the Advanced Server thing was packaging. I guess that goes a way to explaining RedHat's occasional flakiness over the years...
Debian/etc are different because there is still a free stable branch. You can use Mandrake Official for $0, and you can use Debian Stable for $0. SuSE 9.x is a rather stable release too, not a rolling baseline line Fedora appears to be. A better comparison would have been Mandrake Cooker, or Debian Unstable.
I'll agree about Debian. If you want new-ish software, it's not the distro for you. However, backports.org is a good resource for recent packages for Woody.
FWIW, I found RedHat 9 to be relatively unstable compared to SuSE on our server here. We're currently running a super-stable and more secure Debian spinoff called Adamantix. Yes, it's a complete PITA to get working initially, but solid as a rock once sorted. The upcoming 1.0.4 release has a lot of more current stuff in it.
Still, if Fedora meets your needs then go with it. Personally, I think putting anything as bleeding-edge as Fedora on a server is very brave, but to each their own. One difference though... I don't recall beta-testing for RedHat's pay-for software when running RH8 or 9...
RedHat *was* the standard back in the day, but others have cought up, and they pretty much blew any other advantage off with their Fedora vs Enterprise debarkle. RedHat users faced the choice of a distro in continuous state of Beta, or paying large fees for updates. Not good. I've been through Debian, MkLinux, Mandrake, RedHat, SuSE, Adamantix, and a few others, and I'll say that these days Mandrake and SuSE are the real players. Mandrake has got the desktop figured out, and SuSE has got the Novell juggernaut behind them. Aside from "only RedHat supported" 3rd party apps, and maybe business folks who want the well-known name when first move to Linux, I just can't see much room for RedHat anymore... It's certainly been ousted from this office and replaced with alternatives.
Yup. Maybe Riktov has missed some of the finer points of Japanese culture. The article itself doesn't even suggest that "most" customers are confused,...drawn a flood of complaints from TV users......more than 15,000 inquiries and complaints...
The only references to confusion/lack of understanding are "Customers often ask me about 'duplication control' but I have difficulty in helping them understand it," said store manager Yuki Kanno. and "But the duplication control is difficult for elderly people to understand," a sales clerk said. - both from the industry side of the argument. Customers are pissed, and they aren't accepting the explanations given to them by sales people. Maybe that's because it was a bad idea?
They suggest it's due to popular TV dramas being copied and mass marketed around Asia. Imagine that - broadcasting media and then people having it for free! I'm not saying selling the copies is right, but if the media companies aren't competitive in that market, they should be addresing that rather than screwing their bread and butter customers. I wonder which particlar media companies are behind this? The article seemed to leave this snippet of information out...
That's both good to know and unfortunate to read. Especially when we've got a static IP on our DSL connection. We just happen to share a netblock with a bunch of dynamic IPs. I guess the solution is to route email through our upstream provider, but that really shouldn't be necessary when we've got a perfectly good MX record out there on the net.
I checked my IP just for fun, and got a 1/31 hit ratio. It looks like the entire ADSL network for Xtra (NZ's largest/virtual-monopoly DSL supplier) is listed on BLARS for semi-obscure reasons. Nothing actually SPAM related of course... "private block list,
WARNING: Lists/16 and/24 netblocks instead of single IP addresses". Is this gent's dislike for the way records are presented the reason my email server can't send anything to AOL addresses? If so, people put WAY too much faith in public block lists.
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Well, I'll admit that much of that code is generally useful. A fair chunk of it is however specific to HP/Compaq hardware.
FWIW, there are some SAE standards that cover this stuff, but it seems to only be the heavy vehicles that use them. The car/consumer applications still use proprietary codes over standardized interfaces.
Would you buy a car if you're not allowed to reverse engineer the ECU to reset the Service Due light after changing the oil yourself? Oh, and if you do that anyway, you'll be charged under the DMCA and sent to PITA prison.
IBM is already very very very open source friendly. Sounds like HP is just jumping on the bandwagon. Selling support for OSS software isn't really "cozy" either - it's just leaching onto a growing market share. Call me when they start contributing to the code in a meaningful way, or helping folks no IRC.
Don't do that. CF has a limited number of write cycles (100,000 or so, typically), and swapping to it will kill it quite quickly.
The real question is, why does a random company sit down and try to develop a complete MS Office competitor based on Java, when there already exists such a beast? Well, two such beasts if you count OO.o and SO separately.
Ideas are free, but they are also worthless if you do nothing with them. The idea doesn't have to cost anything, and neither does the process of making that idea useful, but somewhere down the line if you use that idea to make money it does have to come from somebody's pocket. Sometimes it's from similarly minded folks, and sometimes it's from lots of folks working in dead end jobs, paying taxes, and just living day to day. On a bigger scale and in a relatively closed economy this can be a problem depending on how the money is flowing.
I wonder. Are the intentions good, or is the intention simply to look like they have good intentions? My understanding of Chinese cultrure is that face is often more important than reality."Yes, we've got a program to clean the water for the villagers" * refills glass from bottle of imported mineral water * It's hard to take well meaning politicians seriously when they are so far removed from the problems and the people (This goes for everywhere, not just China).
The problem is that there's a fixed amount of money in circulation at any given time. For people to get richer, the money has to come from somewhere - if it doesn't, you've got crazy inflation to worry about.
I wonder what sort of increase the MacOS server market showed? It also means little if servers are being shipped with XP or even no OS, and being loaded with Debian after delivery. I doubt it takes into account systems built in-house either. Statistics show only what gatherer wants them to show.
Joking aside, it probably wasn't such a bad way for them to go. Remember the frog in a pot experiment? If the temperature rise wasn't too sudden, there's a fair chance they didn't suffer too much. And once the heat stroke sets in, i imagine they'd be somewhat delerious anyway.
Oracle has so many cache levels and tuning options going on it's pretty easy to have it running slow. To be fair though, if basic MySQL does the job, you don't even need to look at something as complex (and complete) as Oracle. IMHO, a happy medium is either SAP DB / MySQL Max or Postgresql.
I believe that, but I've always had trouble with the cost of moving data around the Internet. I mean, it's not like fibre optic cable wears out faster the more bits you push through it. It seems to be more about supply/demand than any "real" factors.
I don't think they're trying to sell the idea to the public. They're selling it to people who want to extract money from the public, and the benefit is not time savings but lower running costs (read, less staff). I'd say it's aimed at large retailers and mass media.
You really are in love with RedHat aren't you? To use the Debian analogy, the RedHat unstable branch is Rawhide. Fedora is testing.
Calm down and get back to your bug hunting.
Fedora is the free RedHat stable branch. How hard is this to comprehend?
Fedora is the free RedHat TESTING branch. There is NO stable and free RedHat anymore. Get that? Stable is the WS/ES/AS line.
They use the same major versions of the Kernel, Gnome, KDE, etc. etc. etc. How is SuSE 9.X a "stable release" while Fedora is "a rolling baseline"?
Fedora says they schedule releases 2-3 times a year. That is a joke for any system that actually gets used in the real world. The current versioning is nice timing for your argument, but 3 months from now it'll be a new release with new bugs and new holes. 3 months from now SuSE and Mandrake will be that much more secure and stable, and a year or two from now you might want to think about updating. As you've posted already, you're a keen RedHat fanboy from way back and you use RH9/FC1/FC2 in your office, but wailing about how equal you think your favourite distro is won't accomplish anything. And no, I don't expect you to agree with my opinion or admit you made a mistake deploying it in a production environment.
Sure, it looks cool from an image standpoint,
Why? Seriously, what's cool about having a small wireless phone? It's just a telephone. Useful at times certainly, but cool? I didn't think much of Maxwell Smart's shoe either.
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Silly trollbot! It's not free they're competing with. While the master (the broadcast) is free, the copies were being "mass-marketed" not given away. The media co already has the master for "free" (read already paid for) so at the point the pirates (arggh matey!) get it, they're on an equal footing.
Good point, although I thought part of the Advanced Server thing was packaging. I guess that goes a way to explaining RedHat's occasional flakiness over the years...
Debian/etc are different because there is still a free stable branch. You can use Mandrake Official for $0, and you can use Debian Stable for $0. SuSE 9.x is a rather stable release too, not a rolling baseline line Fedora appears to be. A better comparison would have been Mandrake Cooker, or Debian Unstable.
I'll agree about Debian. If you want new-ish software, it's not the distro for you. However, backports.org is a good resource for recent packages for Woody.
FWIW, I found RedHat 9 to be relatively unstable compared to SuSE on our server here. We're currently running a super-stable and more secure Debian spinoff called Adamantix. Yes, it's a complete PITA to get working initially, but solid as a rock once sorted. The upcoming 1.0.4 release has a lot of more current stuff in it.
Still, if Fedora meets your needs then go with it. Personally, I think putting anything as bleeding-edge as Fedora on a server is very brave, but to each their own. One difference though... I don't recall beta-testing for RedHat's pay-for software when running RH8 or 9...
RedHat *was* the standard back in the day, but others have cought up, and they pretty much blew any other advantage off with their Fedora vs Enterprise debarkle. RedHat users faced the choice of a distro in continuous state of Beta, or paying large fees for updates. Not good. I've been through Debian, MkLinux, Mandrake, RedHat, SuSE, Adamantix, and a few others, and I'll say that these days Mandrake and SuSE are the real players. Mandrake has got the desktop figured out, and SuSE has got the Novell juggernaut behind them. Aside from "only RedHat supported" 3rd party apps, and maybe business folks who want the well-known name when first move to Linux, I just can't see much room for RedHat anymore... It's certainly been ousted from this office and replaced with alternatives.
Yup. Maybe Riktov has missed some of the finer points of Japanese culture. The article itself doesn't even suggest that "most" customers are confused, ...drawn a flood of complaints from TV users... ...more than 15,000 inquiries and complaints...
The only references to confusion/lack of understanding are "Customers often ask me about 'duplication control' but I have difficulty in helping them understand it," said store manager Yuki Kanno. and "But the duplication control is difficult for elderly people to understand," a sales clerk said. - both from the industry side of the argument. Customers are pissed, and they aren't accepting the explanations given to them by sales people. Maybe that's because it was a bad idea?
They suggest it's due to popular TV dramas being copied and mass marketed around Asia. Imagine that - broadcasting media and then people having it for free! I'm not saying selling the copies is right, but if the media companies aren't competitive in that market, they should be addresing that rather than screwing their bread and butter customers. I wonder which particlar media companies are behind this? The article seemed to leave this snippet of information out...
That's both good to know and unfortunate to read. Especially when we've got a static IP on our DSL connection. We just happen to share a netblock with a bunch of dynamic IPs. I guess the solution is to route email through our upstream provider, but that really shouldn't be necessary when we've got a perfectly good MX record out there on the net.
I checked my IP just for fun, and got a 1/31 hit ratio. It looks like the entire ADSL network for Xtra (NZ's largest/virtual-monopoly DSL supplier) is listed on BLARS for semi-obscure reasons. Nothing actually SPAM related of course... "private block list, WARNING: Lists /16 and /24 netblocks instead of single IP addresses". Is this gent's dislike for the way records are presented the reason my email server can't send anything to AOL addresses? If so, people put WAY too much faith in public block lists.
It probably won't help much. The current MS tactice seems to be to patent everything, so odds are they'll patent anything interesting here too.