Those usages are specifically written into the fair use laws. You can of course copy parts of an article for illustrating a point in class. OTOH, if you want to copy a whole article, you should probably ask the author.
I don't think there's anything that stops folks ripping a snippet from their CD or a radio broadcast and using it as thier ring tone. Somebody selling 10% / 15 second snippets (maybe looped) probably doesn't have the law on their side - eg, it's not being used fairly, but capitalizing on others work - but Joe Public does, especially if they alread have the track on other media. Eg, buy on iTunes and beam to your cell phone == ok in my book.
I think it comes down to "does this usage damage the market for the music?" And I think the answer is no. People aren't going to buy a CD just to get the track to use as ringtones, and having the ring tones won't stop you buying the CD to get the whole song... so, no harm no foul.
Last trade was 4.754. Hard to believe it peaked at 22.29, and with no real difference in strategy or product. The stock market is a strange and wonderful place...
Look, when the article is headed "EconolineCrush writes "AMD has added a series of Opteron x50 processors to its workstation and server line that push the K8 core up to 2.4GHz. The Tech Report has tested the latest single and dual-processor Opterons against more than 20 other processors..." there are certain expectations. Did I go in looking for something useful? Yes. Did they deliver? No. They presented a broad range of benchmarks on joe-blow hardware, with little serious analysis. A single barracuda V drive in a professional workstation, especially one that's hitting the disk like some of these tests do? Um, no. It's hardly news for nerds they got going on there. Perhaps news for consumers would be appropriate. I can see from your previous posts that you're a TechReport fanboi and that's fine, but don't try and justify their consumer level report as something useful for IT professionals on Slashdot. They ran some mainstream Windows benchmarks and produced some graphs, and mused over the results - that's all.
I gathered that they tested on Windows 32-bit because that is the OS with the most desktop workstation user base. To compare existing products to new ones on what people actually use, and more importantly, what is actually available (have you bought your copy of Windows XP 64-bit edition yet?), you benchmark what they did. Another reason to test a 64-bit-capable CPU on a non-64-bit OS is simply because they can, as it's not limited to solely 64-bit applications.
Well, that's kinda the point now isn't it? They're saying look how fast it runs the Windows stuff they're comfortable with. The kind of stuff the bulk of their audience probably uses. The kind of mass market that will not fully utilize these crazy fast 64 bit processors. They even included a bunch of slower processors with the fast stuff, presumably for comlpeteness, which got predictably stomped. Big surprise there, but people will go Ooh, the Opteron is faster than *all* of them. This review will probably make folks go and buy product - mission accomplished.
They test on games because the benchmarks are easy for them to perform (they've been doing the same set of tests for quite a while) and because they cater mostly to a game-playing audience. AMD almost always compares favorably to Intel in game tests.
Great, if that's thier thing, but it's hardly a reason for this story to hit Slashdot with presumptions of being a complete workstation and server Opteron review.
It also does not tell me how much faster a Dual Opteron will run my database queries. It doesn't tell me anything about running a Java application server. Doesn't say shite about distributed rendering with 64 bit code. The scientific benchmark tests were cute, and seeing the SSE and 3DNOW opimization boosts is quaint, but where are the 64 bit Opteron optimized FORTRAN apps vs the 32 bit Xeon stuff? Where are the flags used to compile the code, and which compiler was used? How does it compare to the 64 bit G5 then? That's useful for science folks.
Here's an example: "The Opteron doesn't seem to care how the data is organized, performing the same with vector and scalar operations in SSE2 and with x87 FPU assembly language." You know you can compile with GCC and tell it use BOTH the 387 FPU and the SIMD units? Is that what happened? Or was it only using one set the whole time in both cases? I dunno, and I doubt the guys that wrote the article do either. But hey, it the CPU just doesn't care, what are ya gonna do?
There's a HUGE amount of useful info NOT there, because all these guys know is how to run 32 bit WinXP benchmark software. And despite making some educated guesses about the meaning of the results, it's not even close to an indepth evaluation of the processor.
Still, I agree that it would be nice to see benchmarks of 64-bit software running on a 64-bit operating system. Is UT2kX 64-bit ready for Linux?
Who knows? If I was into gaming, I'd be following the gamers sites, not reading Slashdot.
How can you take this review seriously? It even sounds like the reviewers don't know shit about what they a) testing and b) writing. Ooh pages of graphs with the AMD winning stuff! Pretty. How many ass-covering qualifiers and indistinct articals do you need guys? You don't end an authoritative evaluation with with random questions and musings either. And why the frick test a 64 CPU on a non-64 bit OS? Ran out time they say, but they had time to bench test a bunch of games on 20 or so processors? That's just stupid. How about some quality instead of quantity eh? The article even describes the grey metal AMD chip cover as "attractive"! Are these guys just licking AMDs balls or what? Still, they must be creaming themselves over the clicks they're getting from/. readers.
Because software is everywhere. All the VB and Delphi devs here on/. might forget about the embedded logic that's in damn near everything we can buy. Avoid software? OK, don't use your dishwasher or TV either. Or your car. As a developer, software patents piss me off, but as a regular citizen they piss me off even more. And I'm especially pissed off that Germany renegged on their word.
Accepted by the people that do it? Um, yeh, that's real ethical. How well accepted do you think it would be by customers if they knew? C'mon, how about at least trying to be professional? Sure, it's harder, but you can't soar with eagles when you're pecking other chickens.
Having said that, I'm not overly surprised that JBoss does this, I've always found the product to be good but the company to be, um, not focused on the users. Newbies have a *very* hard time getting started (check the forums for examples, or try asking a question on IRC) and there's a lot of gaps in the doco that I presume are there to drum up support business.
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Ugly hacks. AdBlock lets you right click on images and flash, then select adblock and edit the URL pattern if you wish. That is actually mentioned in the URL you posted.
I like Opera, but I've become very reliant on Mozilla's AdBlock plug-in. I've paid my fee, so please Opera, give me ad-blocking! I can't stand surfing the 'net with garish flashing crap everywhere!
Uh... not necessarily. As far as physical products go, cheapest stuff is typically Asian (but not Japanese). To be fair, my main beef is more about company ownership than the products themselves. It does depend on the markets involved and my hi-tech tastes aren't easily filled here.
Anyways, here's the run down for me getting some car stuff... because of the small market size (4 million people), most foreign products are handled by one or two distributors who often only deal with retailers. This get's silly very very fast. Eg, if I buy an HKS boost controller for my car, it would come though one local dude, who bought from the Aussie distributor, who got it from Japan. Obviously this is stupid, so I buy it from a) some Japanese shop, b) some local Japanese guy with contacts, or c) the US because it's so much cheaper there that even with shipping it works out 30% less on my door.
So I want to buy it locally if I can, except in many cases there is no local producer, or they charge "the market rate" which is comparable to the foreign stuff, but quality and/or selection can be an issue sometimes. Eg, tires for my Subaru. I wanted some Firestone Turunza LS/T or something, which were well rated all-season tyres, and retail at around $85 NZD each in the US. We have a Firestone tire factory here, but they don't make that one... and what they do make for my car isn't as good and costs $190 NZD each.
And to top it off, I'm paying over 1/2 my income in tax (income tax, gst, student loan, levies, duties, etc, etc). It's a nice place to live, but not a good place to get rich.
I've traced machines infected with worms, using my firewall logs. I sent them a net popup message basically saying "You're PC is infected, please update and run a virus scanner, and install a firewall" from Linux using Samba). The worms generally stop within a day or so.
I read the snopes link and am not even religous, so take this with a grain of salt, but...
Imagine for a moment that we could drill a hole to Hell and rescue all these tormented souls. Millions upon millions - 40 billion, I think was the number cited - many of whom have been writhing in agony for thousands of years, and you just open the door for them? A couple of billion pissed off spirts running loose is not my idea of fun. If there was some way to offer them repentance before exit then sure, it's worth a shot, but giving some of the worst criminals of all time a free escape from the worst. place. evar? I don't think so, Tim.
Most people are sheep (or relatively poor) and don't (or can't) think any bigger than feeding their kids and keeping the house payments up. I'm lucky in that I can make choices based on my opinions about his kind of thing, but many folks can't. I don't disagree with you about this stuff, I'm just saying that public awareness is an issue here and that when the bulk of the media is foreign owned it's likely to stay that way.
Surprisingly, it is that hard. Yes, there are NZ musos, but the better ones often sign with big international labels. Forget the radio for listening to the un-signed artists though, it's mostly owned by a Canadian company and they all seem to only deal with the big labels. Student and some "ethnic" radio is the last reprive. A NZ company that makes Soda? Um, I know there are/were some... but try finding it on the Australian owned supermarket shelves (disclaimer: I buy NZ made "sports-water"). There are a few NZ made movies, but not enough, and the few that get screened are usually only during film festivals. There's essentially only 2 or 3 film distribution channels, which typically , the major one which is owned by an Aussie. The TV industry is screwed up, with our govt giving grants to productions like "NZ Idol" which then gets funds from 0900 "viewer voting" (had the highest price in the international franchise, IIRC) etc, while true local talent often goes without.
Yeh, some of it is like a suburb of the US, and many folks like it that way. Personally, I'll do what I can to support local industry and culture, but I sometimes wonder if it's a losing battle when our mass markets are pwned by companies with different goals.
So you think that lowering the financial bar for aerial terrorists is a good thing?
I'll take that as a genuine question rather than you attempting to put words into my mouth.
I think lowering the financial bar for personal aircraft for *anyone* is a good idea. Cheap aircraft can be had, but you're looking at some pretty old designs and hardware. Making better craft cheaper is a good thing, and can make flying safer for those that want to. The idea of raising prices to a point where only the extremely wealthy and suitably large corporations can do so smacks of elitism and "corporatism". Eg, common people shouldn't be allowed to do things, some of them might do something bad! Better only let the good (rich/white/christian/political/etc) people do those things, or only companies so we can regulate them (and because most sensible well off folks use companies as vehicles for their finances anyway).
Personally, I like the idea of jumping in a cheap reliable plane and flying somewhere nice and remote to go camping for the weekend, but people like you would rather see me "under control" and put through security checks and 3 hour check-in queues - because that's "safer" isn't it? And as I understand it, terrorists are rather well funded already, so don't kid yourself that life will be rosy if you price anything interesting out of the Joe Public market.
Look buddy, keep your paranoia to yourself. The US has got the largest military spend in the world and bases in everyone else's countries... but now you're getting pissy over letting some average dude fly his family around because you think someone might attack you? In a 4-seater Cessna? Uh, that's been within terrorists reach for *decades*. There's some serious introspection needed here...
No we're not, because there are always alternatives, even if there's a cost associated with switching (ha ha). Cisco is screwed though... share price dip in 3... 2... My money is on an inside job, whether it happened knowingly or not. Corporate espionage is part of the deal when you get as large as Cisco, and I guess they just lost this one. Personally, I'm surprised we even heard about it.
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Those usages are specifically written into the fair use laws. You can of course copy parts of an article for illustrating a point in class. OTOH, if you want to copy a whole article, you should probably ask the author.
I don't think there's anything that stops folks ripping a snippet from their CD or a radio broadcast and using it as thier ring tone. Somebody selling 10% / 15 second snippets (maybe looped) probably doesn't have the law on their side - eg, it's not being used fairly, but capitalizing on others work - but Joe Public does, especially if they alread have the track on other media. Eg, buy on iTunes and beam to your cell phone == ok in my book.
I think it comes down to "does this usage damage the market for the music?" And I think the answer is no. People aren't going to buy a CD just to get the track to use as ringtones, and having the ring tones won't stop you buying the CD to get the whole song... so, no harm no foul.
"Unfortunately, if the copyright owner disagrees with your fair use interpretation, the dispute will have to be resolved by courts or arbitration." So if the RIAA decides to get silly about this, you get the choice of being first to fight them and prove them wrong, or settling for a sum smaller than the cost of going to court.
Since when? Fair use applies to all people.
Because the less money you have after tax, the more you worry about where the chunk the government took is going.
Required in the European universities? Bah! It was required at my High School!
How about using it as a heat source for a steam turbine?
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Last trade was 4.754. Hard to believe it peaked at 22.29, and with no real difference in strategy or product. The stock market is a strange and wonderful place...
Look, when the article is headed "EconolineCrush writes "AMD has added a series of Opteron x50 processors to its workstation and server line that push the K8 core up to 2.4GHz. The Tech Report has tested the latest single and dual-processor Opterons against more than 20 other processors..." there are certain expectations. Did I go in looking for something useful? Yes. Did they deliver? No. They presented a broad range of benchmarks on joe-blow hardware, with little serious analysis. A single barracuda V drive in a professional workstation, especially one that's hitting the disk like some of these tests do? Um, no. It's hardly news for nerds they got going on there. Perhaps news for consumers would be appropriate. I can see from your previous posts that you're a TechReport fanboi and that's fine, but don't try and justify their consumer level report as something useful for IT professionals on Slashdot. They ran some mainstream Windows benchmarks and produced some graphs, and mused over the results - that's all.
I was thinking of the -mfpmath=sse,387 option in this instance. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.0/gcc/i386-a nd-x86-64-Options.html#i386%20and%20x86-64%20Optio ns
I gathered that they tested on Windows 32-bit because that is the OS with the most desktop workstation user base. To compare existing products to new ones on what people actually use, and more importantly, what is actually available (have you bought your copy of Windows XP 64-bit edition yet?), you benchmark what they did. Another reason to test a 64-bit-capable CPU on a non-64-bit OS is simply because they can, as it's not limited to solely 64-bit applications.
Well, that's kinda the point now isn't it? They're saying look how fast it runs the Windows stuff they're comfortable with. The kind of stuff the bulk of their audience probably uses. The kind of mass market that will not fully utilize these crazy fast 64 bit processors. They even included a bunch of slower processors with the fast stuff, presumably for comlpeteness, which got predictably stomped. Big surprise there, but people will go Ooh, the Opteron is faster than *all* of them. This review will probably make folks go and buy product - mission accomplished.
They test on games because the benchmarks are easy for them to perform (they've been doing the same set of tests for quite a while) and because they cater mostly to a game-playing audience. AMD almost always compares favorably to Intel in game tests.
Great, if that's thier thing, but it's hardly a reason for this story to hit Slashdot with presumptions of being a complete workstation and server Opteron review.
It also does not tell me how much faster a Dual Opteron will run my database queries. It doesn't tell me anything about running a Java application server. Doesn't say shite about distributed rendering with 64 bit code. The scientific benchmark tests were cute, and seeing the SSE and 3DNOW opimization boosts is quaint, but where are the 64 bit Opteron optimized FORTRAN apps vs the 32 bit Xeon stuff? Where are the flags used to compile the code, and which compiler was used? How does it compare to the 64 bit G5 then? That's useful for science folks.
Here's an example: "The Opteron doesn't seem to care how the data is organized, performing the same with vector and scalar operations in SSE2 and with x87 FPU assembly language." You know you can compile with GCC and tell it use BOTH the 387 FPU and the SIMD units? Is that what happened? Or was it only using one set the whole time in both cases? I dunno, and I doubt the guys that wrote the article do either. But hey, it the CPU just doesn't care, what are ya gonna do?
There's a HUGE amount of useful info NOT there, because all these guys know is how to run 32 bit WinXP benchmark software. And despite making some educated guesses about the meaning of the results, it's not even close to an indepth evaluation of the processor.
Still, I agree that it would be nice to see benchmarks of 64-bit software running on a 64-bit operating system. Is UT2kX 64-bit ready for Linux?
Who knows? If I was into gaming, I'd be following the gamers sites, not reading Slashdot.
How can you take this review seriously? It even sounds like the reviewers don't know shit about what they a) testing and b) writing. Ooh pages of graphs with the AMD winning stuff! Pretty. How many ass-covering qualifiers and indistinct articals do you need guys? You don't end an authoritative evaluation with with random questions and musings either. And why the frick test a 64 CPU on a non-64 bit OS? Ran out time they say, but they had time to bench test a bunch of games on 20 or so processors? That's just stupid. How about some quality instead of quantity eh? The article even describes the grey metal AMD chip cover as "attractive"! Are these guys just licking AMDs balls or what? Still, they must be creaming themselves over the clicks they're getting from /. readers.
Because software is everywhere. All the VB and Delphi devs here on /. might forget about the embedded logic that's in damn near everything we can buy. Avoid software? OK, don't use your dishwasher or TV either. Or your car. As a developer, software patents piss me off, but as a regular citizen they piss me off even more. And I'm especially pissed off that Germany renegged on their word.
Accepted by the people that do it? Um, yeh, that's real ethical. How well accepted do you think it would be by customers if they knew? C'mon, how about at least trying to be professional? Sure, it's harder, but you can't soar with eagles when you're pecking other chickens.
Having said that, I'm not overly surprised that JBoss does this, I've always found the product to be good but the company to be, um, not focused on the users. Newbies have a *very* hard time getting started (check the forums for examples, or try asking a question on IRC) and there's a lot of gaps in the doco that I presume are there to drum up support business.
True dat. It's still far far cheaper than most other countries. http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0404/18/a 10-126083.htm
Ugly hacks. AdBlock lets you right click on images and flash, then select adblock and edit the URL pattern if you wish. That is actually mentioned in the URL you posted.
I like Opera, but I've become very reliant on Mozilla's AdBlock plug-in. I've paid my fee, so please Opera, give me ad-blocking! I can't stand surfing the 'net with garish flashing crap everywhere!
Uh... not necessarily. As far as physical products go, cheapest stuff is typically Asian (but not Japanese). To be fair, my main beef is more about company ownership than the products themselves. It does depend on the markets involved and my hi-tech tastes aren't easily filled here.
Anyways, here's the run down for me getting some car stuff... because of the small market size (4 million people), most foreign products are handled by one or two distributors who often only deal with retailers. This get's silly very very fast. Eg, if I buy an HKS boost controller for my car, it would come though one local dude, who bought from the Aussie distributor, who got it from Japan. Obviously this is stupid, so I buy it from a) some Japanese shop, b) some local Japanese guy with contacts, or c) the US because it's so much cheaper there that even with shipping it works out 30% less on my door.
So I want to buy it locally if I can, except in many cases there is no local producer, or they charge "the market rate" which is comparable to the foreign stuff, but quality and/or selection can be an issue sometimes. Eg, tires for my Subaru. I wanted some Firestone Turunza LS/T or something, which were well rated all-season tyres, and retail at around $85 NZD each in the US. We have a Firestone tire factory here, but they don't make that one... and what they do make for my car isn't as good and costs $190 NZD each.
And to top it off, I'm paying over 1/2 my income in tax (income tax, gst, student loan, levies, duties, etc, etc). It's a nice place to live, but not a good place to get rich.
I've traced machines infected with worms, using my firewall logs. I sent them a net popup message basically saying "You're PC is infected, please update and run a virus scanner, and install a firewall" from Linux using Samba). The worms generally stop within a day or so.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I read the snopes link and am not even religous, so take this with a grain of salt, but...
Imagine for a moment that we could drill a hole to Hell and rescue all these tormented souls. Millions upon millions - 40 billion, I think was the number cited - many of whom have been writhing in agony for thousands of years, and you just open the door for them? A couple of billion pissed off spirts running loose is not my idea of fun. If there was some way to offer them repentance before exit then sure, it's worth a shot, but giving some of the worst criminals of all time a free escape from the worst. place. evar? I don't think so, Tim.
Most people are sheep (or relatively poor) and don't (or can't) think any bigger than feeding their kids and keeping the house payments up. I'm lucky in that I can make choices based on my opinions about his kind of thing, but many folks can't. I don't disagree with you about this stuff, I'm just saying that public awareness is an issue here and that when the bulk of the media is foreign owned it's likely to stay that way.
Sounded like a typical crowd scene with a muffled PA and one crazy woman. Or it might be Hell and we are all doomed. Who knows.
Surprisingly, it is that hard. Yes, there are NZ musos, but the better ones often sign with big international labels. Forget the radio for listening to the un-signed artists though, it's mostly owned by a Canadian company and they all seem to only deal with the big labels. Student and some "ethnic" radio is the last reprive. A NZ company that makes Soda? Um, I know there are/were some... but try finding it on the Australian owned supermarket shelves (disclaimer: I buy NZ made "sports-water"). There are a few NZ made movies, but not enough, and the few that get screened are usually only during film festivals. There's essentially only 2 or 3 film distribution channels, which typically , the major one which is owned by an Aussie. The TV industry is screwed up, with our govt giving grants to productions like "NZ Idol" which then gets funds from 0900 "viewer voting" (had the highest price in the international franchise, IIRC) etc, while true local talent often goes without.
Yeh, some of it is like a suburb of the US, and many folks like it that way. Personally, I'll do what I can to support local industry and culture, but I sometimes wonder if it's a losing battle when our mass markets are pwned by companies with different goals.
The best customer is a repeat customer. :)
So you think that lowering the financial bar for aerial terrorists is a good thing?
I'll take that as a genuine question rather than you attempting to put words into my mouth.
I think lowering the financial bar for personal aircraft for *anyone* is a good idea. Cheap aircraft can be had, but you're looking at some pretty old designs and hardware. Making better craft cheaper is a good thing, and can make flying safer for those that want to. The idea of raising prices to a point where only the extremely wealthy and suitably large corporations can do so smacks of elitism and "corporatism". Eg, common people shouldn't be allowed to do things, some of them might do something bad! Better only let the good (rich/white/christian/political/etc) people do those things, or only companies so we can regulate them (and because most sensible well off folks use companies as vehicles for their finances anyway).
Personally, I like the idea of jumping in a cheap reliable plane and flying somewhere nice and remote to go camping for the weekend, but people like you would rather see me "under control" and put through security checks and 3 hour check-in queues - because that's "safer" isn't it? And as I understand it, terrorists are rather well funded already, so don't kid yourself that life will be rosy if you price anything interesting out of the Joe Public market.
Look buddy, keep your paranoia to yourself. The US has got the largest military spend in the world and bases in everyone else's countries... but now you're getting pissy over letting some average dude fly his family around because you think someone might attack you? In a 4-seater Cessna? Uh, that's been within terrorists reach for *decades*. There's some serious introspection needed here...
No we're not, because there are always alternatives, even if there's a cost associated with switching (ha ha). Cisco is screwed though... share price dip in 3... 2... My money is on an inside job, whether it happened knowingly or not. Corporate espionage is part of the deal when you get as large as Cisco, and I guess they just lost this one. Personally, I'm surprised we even heard about it.