I was an Amiga user when I got my hands on a Mac II at my college. I realized then that Apple had the hardware design thing down. I still have a couple of them, but the Amiga 2000-2500 was a really ugly design. I assume that it came from the German Commodore 3000 Unix system design. The Mac II design still looks fairly modern today. Yet I threw one away and kept the Amigas.
It was fun scaring the lady in the graphics dept. when I dragged the floppy to the "trash" to eject it. They thought it would erase it.:)
Except lacking in the putrid green desktop and the goofy "busy bee" pointer. The GS/OS was a closer to System 7. Also Atari TOS was in fact CP/M 68K by Digital Research. (See instructions on how to attempt to build an Amiga from off-the-shelf parts)
No the ][GS was certainly not an Amiga. Although I believe the internal code name for the GS was "Amiga Killer". I saw one in 1987 at the local Apple retailer. I thought it was kind of neat, but went back home to my Atari 800XL. It wasn't until 1988 that I actually used an Amiga and things haven't been quite the same since. I'm currently working on a Dual 2Ghz G5, but I have 7 Amiga systems sitting around.
Now there have been a few here that put down the Mac in favor of the Amiga. There are some fantastic things that make the Amiga shine. It's GUI wasn't one of them. The Amiga OS had some great features, but it seemed kind of clunky in it's usage compared to Macs of the same vintage. We Amiga users spent a lot of time trying to make the systems more elegant. I brought a system running the same old 1.3 OS that everyone else had to a Amiga user group meeting. With all of the tweaks I had done to the interface, people thought I was running the new unreleased 2.04.:) There were even articles in Amiga mags back in 1989-90 that complained how the Amiga's GUI paled in comparison to the Mac. It could have been worse, we could have had "CP/M with windows" in the Atari TOS. (GEM Digital Research- CP/M 68K)
Well, if you were to try and take the TV through a airport checkpoint, you would be asked to turn on the TV and showed that it worked. They will soon have it, where if you brought a six-pack through an airport screening, you'll have to first open all of the cans to show that they actually contained soda. I don't see what the problem is.
Calling AT&T the "Father" of Linux is quite a stretch. And I don't believe that the government forced anyone to give away Unix. If AT&T gave it away, Novel and SCO wouldn't be arguing about it today.
It's a discussion about SCO!!! We're all supposed to yield to a hijacking of this discussion and be diverted to a political one? Well, perhaps SCO IS like the DMC.
Yes, check that guy out. That was my father. Not a day goes by that I don't think about him. What's interesting is that he didn't talk about it that much. I think I learned more about what happened from his writings than from what he told me verbally. What's sad is that he was determined to be a survivor. He had just built a new computer desk and had planed to build a new house. What's cool is that he was a true geek. He followed my brother and I into Amiga Computers, and later bought a Windows machine in 1994. Imagine how much of my time has been spent over the last 10 years helping him fix Windows!
The chipset in the Atari 400/800 was originally designed to be placed in a successor to the Atari 2600. Atari decided they didn't want to cannibalize their 2600 sales which were still strong, and turned it into one of those newfangled "home computers".
The Atari 400/800 was released in 1979. The Atari 5200 I think followed in 82. By that time the video game industry was about to go into the toilet.
I'm proud to have met the man who designed the chipsets for the Atari 2600, 400/800 and the Commodore Amiga... Jay Miner. Super cool guy, may he rest in peace.
Not for the customer surely. The investment that is being preserved is for Microsoft and their code. There aren't that many customers that require the ability to run their old MS-DOS applications. Microsoft would rather you buy a new version of your app that runs on Windows. If I really want to, I can run MS-DOS apps on my PPC system.
The company I work for was forced to move off of a DOS application because the vendor didn't want to support it anymore. Guess what, the new app is written in VB. It has no new features and it's GUI is from HELL.
I'm an Apple fan, and I agree with you. The only thing one can see in the picture is that the motherboard is smaller. Some have speculated that this may be a low-end machine. I'm not going to worry about it until WWDC.
The "Internet" comment was only ONE of the dumb things that Al Gore said during the 2000 campaign. Now if only he would do the honorable thing and step down from the Apple Computer Board of Directors.
I started using PCs at my local college around the time Windows 2.1 came out. Before that I had used Atari 8bit micros and Commodore Amigas. I had a lot of fun trying to get printer drivers to work under both Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Pagemaker. Each App overwrote the other's drivers. I learned how to edit WIN.INI files by hand. A PS/2 Model 60 would never see it's (then) massive 3 Meg memory card. The faculty had friends at IBM that kept mailing floppy disks that never worked. I later found the proper drivers that came with the system. Programs were much faster after that. Most other departments at the school had PS/2 model 30s with only the base memory. Every time you would just move the mouse in Windows, the hard drive would start gronking. I kept wondering why they weren't buying, which by my standards, was a superior computer in the Amiga. As an ex commodore employee said.., "Commodore isn't a computer company, they are a company that makes widgets." I use Macintoshes now. I also have a dual Athlon system I built that runs XP. Windows has gotten better, but I still have those bad memories from 1989.
I remember when the college graphics department got a Mac II. It was just so much more polished than either the Amiga or Windows... Almost like a jewel. The professor in the art department just scoffed. He's the one who's friends were execs at IBM and he did sculpture and paintings for them... That's probably why we had so much IBM hardware around.
I work in a TV newsroom where the majority is Liberal. How do you think I feel bringing up politics? Well actually I don't feel too bad. A "Culture of Intimidation"??? Give me a break. Now, 1939 Nazi Germany, there you might have had a problem.
Here in the U.S., if you lean to the Right, you are derided for being a parrot of the Bush Admin. line, and accused of only listening to Rush Limbaugh. Ha!
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I see this as a case of "Don't ask, Don't tell". :)
YMRMFS?
You May Require Multiple Folded Socks?
Yeti Might Regurgitate Mandible Fractured Sustenance?
Well, you can be either oh so smart, or oh so pleasent. I hope Apple chooses smart.
"was a closer to System 7"???
I'm not sure what that means either.
I was an Amiga user when I got my hands on a Mac II at my college. I realized then that Apple had the hardware design thing down. I still have a couple of them, but the Amiga 2000-2500 was a really ugly design. I assume that it came from the German Commodore 3000 Unix system design. The Mac II design still looks fairly modern today. Yet I threw one away and kept the Amigas.
:)
It was fun scaring the lady in the graphics dept. when I dragged the floppy to the "trash" to eject it. They thought it would erase it.
Except lacking in the putrid green desktop and the goofy "busy bee" pointer. The GS/OS was a closer to System 7. Also Atari TOS was in fact CP/M 68K by Digital Research. (See instructions on how to attempt to build an Amiga from off-the-shelf parts)
No the ][GS was certainly not an Amiga. Although I believe the internal code name for the GS was "Amiga Killer". I saw one in 1987 at the local Apple retailer. I thought it was kind of neat, but went back home to my Atari 800XL. It wasn't until 1988 that I actually used an Amiga and things haven't been quite the same since. I'm currently working on a Dual 2Ghz G5, but I have 7 Amiga systems sitting around.
:) There were even articles in Amiga mags back in 1989-90 that complained how the Amiga's GUI paled in comparison to the Mac. It could have been worse, we could have had "CP/M with windows" in the Atari TOS. (GEM Digital Research- CP/M 68K)
:)
Now there have been a few here that put down the Mac in favor of the Amiga. There are some fantastic things that make the Amiga shine. It's GUI wasn't one of them. The Amiga OS had some great features, but it seemed kind of clunky in it's usage compared to Macs of the same vintage. We Amiga users spent a lot of time trying to make the systems more elegant. I brought a system running the same old 1.3 OS that everyone else had to a Amiga user group meeting. With all of the tweaks I had done to the interface, people thought I was running the new unreleased 2.04.
The Amiga did have the RMB thing down!
Well, if you were to try and take the TV through a airport checkpoint, you would be asked to turn on the TV and showed that it worked. They will soon have it, where if you brought a six-pack through an airport screening, you'll have to first open all of the cans to show that they actually contained soda. I don't see what the problem is.
That was damn funny. Thanks! :)
Daryl? Is that you?
Calling AT&T the "Father" of Linux is quite a stretch. And I don't believe that the government forced anyone to give away Unix. If AT&T gave it away, Novel and SCO wouldn't be arguing about it today.
It's a discussion about SCO!!! We're all supposed to yield to a hijacking of this discussion and be diverted to a political one? Well, perhaps SCO IS like the DMC.
Usually we brag when somthing is longer, not shorter!
I tired of "flame wars" about 10 years ago on FidoNet. *yawn*
Yes, check that guy out. That was my father. Not a day goes by that I don't think about him. What's interesting is that he didn't talk about it that much. I think I learned more about what happened from his writings than from what he told me verbally. What's sad is that he was determined to be a survivor. He had just built a new computer desk and had planed to build a new house. What's cool is that he was a true geek. He followed my brother and I into Amiga Computers, and later bought a Windows machine in 1994. Imagine how much of my time has been spent over the last 10 years helping him fix Windows!
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Just because John Ashcroft said so? Probably not.
The chipset in the Atari 400/800 was originally designed to be placed in a successor to the Atari 2600. Atari decided they didn't want to cannibalize their 2600 sales which were still strong, and turned it into one of those newfangled "home computers".
The Atari 400/800 was released in 1979. The Atari 5200 I think followed in 82. By that time the video game industry was about to go into the toilet.
I'm proud to have met the man who designed the chipsets for the Atari 2600, 400/800 and the Commodore Amiga... Jay Miner. Super cool guy, may he rest in peace.
Can you say "Player-Missile Graphics"???
"value of past investments in software"????
Not for the customer surely. The investment that is being preserved is for Microsoft and their code. There aren't that many customers that require the ability to run their old MS-DOS applications. Microsoft would rather you buy a new version of your app that runs on Windows. If I really want to, I can run MS-DOS apps on my PPC system.
The company I work for was forced to move off of a DOS application because the vendor didn't want to support it anymore. Guess what, the new app is written in VB. It has no new features and it's GUI is from HELL.
I'll have to see if I can get the "Right Wing Dirty Tricks Team" patch for my jacket. Sounds cool.
I'm an Apple fan, and I agree with you. The only thing one can see in the picture is that the motherboard is smaller. Some have speculated that this may be a low-end machine. I'm not going to worry about it until WWDC.
The "Internet" comment was only ONE of the dumb things that Al Gore said during the 2000 campaign. Now if only he would do the honorable thing and step down from the Apple Computer Board of Directors.
I started using PCs at my local college around the time Windows 2.1 came out. Before that I had used Atari 8bit micros and Commodore Amigas. I had a lot of fun trying to get printer drivers to work under both Adobe Illustrator and Aldus Pagemaker. Each App overwrote the other's drivers. I learned how to edit WIN.INI files by hand. A PS/2 Model 60 would never see it's (then) massive 3 Meg memory card. The faculty had friends at IBM that kept mailing floppy disks that never worked. I later found the proper drivers that came with the system. Programs were much faster after that. Most other departments at the school had PS/2 model 30s with only the base memory. Every time you would just move the mouse in Windows, the hard drive would start gronking. I kept wondering why they weren't buying, which by my standards, was a superior computer in the Amiga. As an ex commodore employee said.., "Commodore isn't a computer company, they are a company that makes widgets." I use Macintoshes now. I also have a dual Athlon system I built that runs XP. Windows has gotten better, but I still have those bad memories from 1989.
I remember when the college graphics department got a Mac II. It was just so much more polished than either the Amiga or Windows... Almost like a jewel. The professor in the art department just scoffed. He's the one who's friends were execs at IBM and he did sculpture and paintings for them... That's probably why we had so much IBM hardware around.
So, exactly how long have you worked for Microsoft?
I work in a TV newsroom where the majority is Liberal. How do you think I feel bringing up politics? Well actually I don't feel too bad. A "Culture of Intimidation"??? Give me a break. Now, 1939 Nazi Germany, there you might have had a problem.
Here in the U.S., if you lean to the Right, you are derided for being a parrot of the Bush Admin. line, and accused of only listening to Rush Limbaugh. Ha!
It goes both ways.
I read the synopsis and thought it said "he melted several other people". I'm glad I went back and reread. Whew!
Ha Ha Ha!!!
"Bite me you biased pig" I think would make a great bumper sticker, or a sig.
You see, RAMBUS is good for something.