Well I see lots of stuff in the media where religion tries to influence it and fails, and stuff about people not being allowed to pray in school (ie, on their own) and having to get... but then I live in Canada.
Anyway, I do think those things are sins (well masturbation is a grey area... in itself it's not a bad thing, but porn is). I just don't believe it's my right to judge others or dictate what I think they should do. I also don't believe in the concept of mortal sins (ie ones that send you straight to hell, period), and I don't think that those are nearly as bad as many make them out to be. I don't have to be ashamed of thinking homosexuality is wrong. I accept gays the same as I accept anyone else; everyone has flaws. I know I have my own flaws, and I would hate to be judged on any of them, especially if I didn't think it was a flaw... The point is that it is not our place to judge other people, period.
Christianity does not preach hostility to gays, although there are an embarrassing number of Christians who do.
BTW, teenagers can reasonably be expected to abstain. They've done it for generations before us, too. Although one might say that's because they were getting married at 15;)
The fundamentalist sects DO NOT REPRESENT CHRISTIANITY. There are large portions of it that don't share that view. So, yes, he's ignorant. Or just pigeonholing everyone who calls him/herself a Christian.
I don't think that there are many sex ed classes like that anyway, not any more at any rate. Surely not in the States, where (I thought) religion has extremely little sway in schooling...
The Christian Church? You're just ignorant. The Catholics are the ones who are against contraception. I'm Orthodox, and the Orthodox Church has nothing against contraception.
In any case, if they ignored their Church's advice to not have sex, why would they listen to it when it says not to use a condom (advice given on the assumption of sex in marriage and not before)?
Fifteen is young, and frequently stupid, naive, and careless. She might not notice it failed. She might have tried her hardest and still failed. She might have thought she did everything right.
"3) the next day, go get that damn pill"
Like I said, some people's beliefs prevent that... and she might not have noticed a tiny spill.
Condoms are not 100% effective, even when used correctly.
"The best way to get your kids to act like adults is to treat them like adults."
Read that over: they are kids, and not adults. Treating them like adults? Is the best way to teach a kid to drive sticking them in a car by themselves and telling them you just need it by the time you have to leave for work? Of course not. You sit beside them when they start learning to drive. You tell them when they make a mistake. You let them know when they're not slowing down fast enough.
A kid is a kid because they are not an adult yet. That's what a kid is. You have to treat a kid... like a kid!
" to deny your children that through nosy and intrusive snooping, whatever euphamism you use, is to demean your children in the face of their own development and to counteract your own goal of producing a responsible adult individual."
They are not adults. You can't assume that you've done everything right. You know why the law will hold you responsible for your childs actions? Because it's your job to make sure that they don't go down the wrong path. (Downloading music off Kazaa, perhaps? Oops, didn't know they were doing that 'cause I wasn't checking - I thought (s)he was responsible!) You should certainly give them all the rights they can handle. But you shouldn't assume they can handle them all...
You don't know that they didn't! It could have torn because of a defect or they could have used it wrong (inexperience). Or they could have intended to but forgot to, with more immediate things on their minds than what's gonna happen in nine months (kids are poor judges of priority, you see).
"There aren't many state-owned phone companies left in the world due to "Structural Adjustment Programs""
Yet another jab at my province and it's socialist fear-monger taskmasters. Come on people, the Saskatchewan Party lost and I'm depressed enough about that already:(
The artificial fats and additives are quite bad for us. (Even those arrowroot crackers we feed children have high amounts of TFA's, as in around a gram per cracker!) You don't want to know the chemical changes oils go through after sitting in a deep fryer all day. Which is usually what it does. In most places they simply add more oil to compensate for the stuff that comes off on the food.
In addition to that, genetically modified foods (and foods that are created through breeding programs) that are bigger are not any healthier for us. They have more of some nutrients, but they also have less of other, equally important nutrients, according to a recent-ish study quoted in the Globe and Mail (I think). They are engineered to be bought, not to make people healthy.
"Today I can safely say that my food produced from my garden is going to be richer than some farmer from 3000 years ago."
Artificial fertilizers don't make it healthier. What's healthy for a carrot is not necessarily healthy for you. It *might* be richer than what they were getting before - but that's not necessarily a good thing. We were designed for what we were doing, not what we *are* doing. So yes, they had to work harder than we do, but that's why we're getting fat (well, not me but society as a whole) and dieing of things that never used to be a problem. Cancer never used to be common, and that's not just because we're living longer. Take a look at the spike in the number of incidences over the last century (not necessarily fatal cases, but incedences, as new therapies make you live where you would have died has nothing to do with diet). People are getting it when they're younger. (Last minute change: oops, I see out of your garden, so some of that doesn't apply, but then most people don't eat out of their own gardens, and they almost never eat fresh veggies (although they may think it's fresh... but ten or more days is not fresh, despite the sign).
This generation will be the first generation to have a problem with teens and twentysomethings getting heart disease.
OTOH, we are certainly able to get food that is better for us than the food used to be (I had originally meant what the average person is at all likely to eat). But most people have no idea what is good for them. I'd be willing to bet that the average person thinks a bagel is healthy, when even a whole wheat bagel will spike your bloodsugar way higher and faster than anything healthy would. People don't know it's not just sugar that's causing diabetes (well it's all glucose eventually that causes it, but you know what I mean), it's anything with a high glycemic index that causes it. Cavemen would've have lasted long with diabetes... but they would just about never get it, because they didn't even have the option.
Et cetera.
I don't eat perfect, but I take suppliments that make up for it and then some. They've made a huge difference in just about all aspects of my life. Of course the average person thinks that Centrum is representative of the quality of all suppliments (which for some bizarre reason don't even have to contain as much of any nutrient as they say they do, and only a small percentage of brands follow the pharmaceutical (sp?) guidelines), and just think they're quakery. But I'm rambling.
They forced a confession out of him, which is to say, they fabricated one. Think about that: they fabricated a confession. They framed him. They tortured him until he read it for them on video. You think that's a good system?
Trans fatty acids were never in food before fairly recently. Saturated fats weren't nearly as common. Neither was processing, which depletes many of the needed nutrients out of food.
Our food has NOT gotten better, although our access to a reliable supply of food has, but that's not what our bodies are designed for. Those 16 inch battleship shells are way more than we can handle, they're making most people in north america overweight!
You think that any of those countries has an exemplary legal system? You must be joking. Hear of William Sampson and those others caught in Saudi Arabia and framed for a crime they didn't commit? Know what they kill you for in China?
"I generally play a dwarf Valkarie, because the mines are really much easier when everything isn't trying to kill you."
I find it's much easier with those convenient little gnome rations running around:)
No, when the device is being used it takes a picture. Not when a car goes through a red light. (Well it still does that, but now it ALSO takes pictures of users of the device).
"You gotta wonder... if there were some kind of terrorist attack on one of these Apple product parties, would the death of the people there have any impact on society whatsoever? Do these people actually *do* anything, or are they simply consumers?"
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Well I see lots of stuff in the media where religion tries to influence it and fails, and stuff about people not being allowed to pray in school (ie, on their own) and having to get... but then I live in Canada.
;)
Anyway, I do think those things are sins (well masturbation is a grey area... in itself it's not a bad thing, but porn is). I just don't believe it's my right to judge others or dictate what I think they should do. I also don't believe in the concept of mortal sins (ie ones that send you straight to hell, period), and I don't think that those are nearly as bad as many make them out to be. I don't have to be ashamed of thinking homosexuality is wrong. I accept gays the same as I accept anyone else; everyone has flaws. I know I have my own flaws, and I would hate to be judged on any of them, especially if I didn't think it was a flaw... The point is that it is not our place to judge other people, period.
Christianity does not preach hostility to gays, although there are an embarrassing number of Christians who do.
BTW, teenagers can reasonably be expected to abstain. They've done it for generations before us, too. Although one might say that's because they were getting married at 15
The fundamentalist sects DO NOT REPRESENT CHRISTIANITY. There are large portions of it that don't share that view. So, yes, he's ignorant. Or just pigeonholing everyone who calls him/herself a Christian.
I don't think that there are many sex ed classes like that anyway, not any more at any rate. Surely not in the States, where (I thought) religion has extremely little sway in schooling...
I *am* a Christian. Nobody I know (including several priests and a bishop) is against teaching birth control, because it's better than a pregnancy.
The Christian Church? You're just ignorant. The Catholics are the ones who are against contraception. I'm Orthodox, and the Orthodox Church has nothing against contraception.
In any case, if they ignored their Church's advice to not have sex, why would they listen to it when it says not to use a condom (advice given on the assumption of sex in marriage and not before)?
It's not hard. You're right. But...
Fifteen is young, and frequently stupid, naive, and careless. She might not notice it failed. She might have tried her hardest and still failed. She might have thought she did everything right.
"3) the next day, go get that damn pill"
Like I said, some people's beliefs prevent that... and she might not have noticed a tiny spill.
Condoms are not 100% effective, even when used correctly.
What if they believed it was right to murder and rape? You just don't understand them.
"The best way to get your kids to act like adults is to treat them like adults." Read that over: they are kids, and not adults. Treating them like adults? Is the best way to teach a kid to drive sticking them in a car by themselves and telling them you just need it by the time you have to leave for work? Of course not. You sit beside them when they start learning to drive. You tell them when they make a mistake. You let them know when they're not slowing down fast enough. A kid is a kid because they are not an adult yet. That's what a kid is. You have to treat a kid... like a kid! " to deny your children that through nosy and intrusive snooping, whatever euphamism you use, is to demean your children in the face of their own development and to counteract your own goal of producing a responsible adult individual." They are not adults. You can't assume that you've done everything right. You know why the law will hold you responsible for your childs actions? Because it's your job to make sure that they don't go down the wrong path. (Downloading music off Kazaa, perhaps? Oops, didn't know they were doing that 'cause I wasn't checking - I thought (s)he was responsible!) You should certainly give them all the rights they can handle. But you shouldn't assume they can handle them all...
Some people's beliefs stop them from doing that. (Life begins at conception, to a great many people - not to try to start a debate on that!).
Then again, sometimes the girl doesn't realize she's pregnant until it's way past that stage.
You don't know that they didn't! It could have torn because of a defect or they could have used it wrong (inexperience). Or they could have intended to but forgot to, with more immediate things on their minds than what's gonna happen in nine months (kids are poor judges of priority, you see).
"There aren't many state-owned phone companies left in the world due to "Structural Adjustment Programs""
:(
Yet another jab at my province and it's socialist fear-monger taskmasters. Come on people, the Saskatchewan Party lost and I'm depressed enough about that already
Can't attack the logic, so you attack the construction. Very mature AND convincing.
Every time a person says a thing like that, I eat another defenseless, processed animal.
There's always the online store...
Of course everyone's getting fat. Everything is food and liquid sugar.
The artificial fats and additives are quite bad for us. (Even those arrowroot crackers we feed children have high amounts of TFA's, as in around a gram per cracker!) You don't want to know the chemical changes oils go through after sitting in a deep fryer all day. Which is usually what it does. In most places they simply add more oil to compensate for the stuff that comes off on the food.
:)
In addition to that, genetically modified foods (and foods that are created through breeding programs) that are bigger are not any healthier for us. They have more of some nutrients, but they also have less of other, equally important nutrients, according to a recent-ish study quoted in the Globe and Mail (I think). They are engineered to be bought, not to make people healthy.
"Today I can safely say that my food produced from my garden is going to be richer than some farmer from 3000 years ago."
Artificial fertilizers don't make it healthier. What's healthy for a carrot is not necessarily healthy for you. It *might* be richer than what they were getting before - but that's not necessarily a good thing. We were designed for what we were doing, not what we *are* doing. So yes, they had to work harder than we do, but that's why we're getting fat (well, not me but society as a whole) and dieing of things that never used to be a problem. Cancer never used to be common, and that's not just because we're living longer. Take a look at the spike in the number of incidences over the last century (not necessarily fatal cases, but incedences, as new therapies make you live where you would have died has nothing to do with diet). People are getting it when they're younger. (Last minute change: oops, I see out of your garden, so some of that doesn't apply, but then most people don't eat out of their own gardens, and they almost never eat fresh veggies (although they may think it's fresh... but ten or more days is not fresh, despite the sign).
This generation will be the first generation to have a problem with teens and twentysomethings getting heart disease.
OTOH, we are certainly able to get food that is better for us than the food used to be (I had originally meant what the average person is at all likely to eat). But most people have no idea what is good for them. I'd be willing to bet that the average person thinks a bagel is healthy, when even a whole wheat bagel will spike your bloodsugar way higher and faster than anything healthy would. People don't know it's not just sugar that's causing diabetes (well it's all glucose eventually that causes it, but you know what I mean), it's anything with a high glycemic index that causes it. Cavemen would've have lasted long with diabetes... but they would just about never get it, because they didn't even have the option.
Et cetera.
I don't eat perfect, but I take suppliments that make up for it and then some. They've made a huge difference in just about all aspects of my life. Of course the average person thinks that Centrum is representative of the quality of all suppliments (which for some bizarre reason don't even have to contain as much of any nutrient as they say they do, and only a small percentage of brands follow the pharmaceutical (sp?) guidelines), and just think they're quakery. But I'm rambling.
Hopefully that made some semblence of sense
They forced a confession out of him, which is to say, they fabricated one. Think about that: they fabricated a confession. They framed him. They tortured him until he read it for them on video. You think that's a good system?
Trans fatty acids were never in food before fairly recently. Saturated fats weren't nearly as common. Neither was processing, which depletes many of the needed nutrients out of food.
Our food has NOT gotten better, although our access to a reliable supply of food has, but that's not what our bodies are designed for. Those 16 inch battleship shells are way more than we can handle, they're making most people in north america overweight!
Anything from KFC isn't healthy... deep fried foods are full of trans fat and other horrible, unnatural things.
There's far more to health than weight.
Those animals not dying in the dry seasons could upset the ecosystem. Unless of course it was only used in periods of drought.
You think that any of those countries has an exemplary legal system? You must be joking. Hear of William Sampson and those others caught in Saudi Arabia and framed for a crime they didn't commit? Know what they kill you for in China?
"I generally play a dwarf Valkarie, because the mines are really much easier when everything isn't trying to kill you." I find it's much easier with those convenient little gnome rations running around :)
Brainwashing people by telling them to get more sleep?
No, when the device is being used it takes a picture. Not when a car goes through a red light. (Well it still does that, but now it ALSO takes pictures of users of the device).
No, I mean that then it's not just a case of an experienced user's finger slipping. It would still prevent that.
Why do you assume that there won't be a prompt warning the user before they delete the file?
I think it had more to do with this part:
"You gotta wonder... if there were some kind of terrorist attack on one of these Apple product parties, would the death of the people there have any impact on society whatsoever? Do these people actually *do* anything, or are they simply consumers?"
No shit that gets modded down as a troll.