"my point was the limitations of our brain. how can we make something think if we don't understand how we think. we don't understand the process as it is very different in each and every individual. but because we don't understand this process, we cannot make something do it more perfectly than us."
" In order to design something that can think better than us, we have to understand the process of thinking, which we may or may not be able to do. It's not something that we are (necessarily) prevented by our limited intelligence from doing."
"airplanes flying is a terrible example since flying occurred long before there were computers in airplanes, in fact it was humans that took care of the computations to make them fly."
You missed the point.
Humans can't fly, but they made machines that can. Nothing about computers. We designed something that can fly better than us, so why can't we design something that can think better than us? Of course it's not that simple, but I didn't make the point:)
We designed airplanes by understanding the relevant physics. In order to design something that can think better than us, we have to understand the process of thinking, which we may or may not be able to do. It's not something that we are (necessarily) prevented by our limited intelligence from doing.
Ethyl alcohol *is* ethanol *is* grain alcohol (grain alcohol being a name for ethanol aka ethyl alcohol, whether or not your particular drink was actually fermented from grain). Hence when I said that wine has ethanol in it, I was also saying that it has ethyl alcohol, and not drawing a distinction between the two (because they're the same thing)!
Sheesh.
Pianos are expensive. A bunch, you know, a large quantity? They make lots of pianos. Am I going to fast for you? If they make more than one piano ever... do you see where I'm going with this?
Attacking Americans won't make me angry, as I'm not American.
Steinway makes pianos.
From dictionary.com, economic: "Of or relating to the production, development, and management of material wealth, as of a country, household, or business enterprise."
Figure it out.
It's not turning the argument around, it's correcting you. Germany lost a bunch of economic activity because of stupid labour laws. Just like the US could lose a bunch of economic activity due to the DMCA.
Workers have rights, what do you call the minimum wage? There are laws that protect workers from undue danger (hell, even smoking in some places!). Do you think employers pay overtime because they like giving their employees more money?
Oh, come on. They could make it many times more deadly by using a slightly thinner pipe and much more gunpowder (and no bowling ball). Or they could steal a gun from their parents night table.
-easier by several orders of magnitude to conceal
-potential to reload before you get gunned down by police
-less likely to kill yourself when it goes off, or else, more likely to hit someone because you don't have to drop it on the ground pointing in a the right direction and run if you want to live
Things like columbine are bound to happen, unfortunately, but that's just going too far with the paranoia.
"Of course then you'll realize the "sewer" is the programming itself, not the words they use, and you'll toss the whole thing and start reading books. Well then you'll notice the same thing in a lot of books and so forth....."
By that logic, we should have no problem raising kids on hard core porn. It just starts a little higher up.
I can't go anywhere, read anything in the paper, listen to anything on the radio, or watch anything on tv without having to see or hear a Lockheed Martin or Boeing ad. It's ridiculous!
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"my point was the limitations of our brain. how can we make something think if we don't understand how we think. we don't understand the process as it is very different in each and every individual. but because we don't understand this process, we cannot make something do it more perfectly than us."
:)
" In order to design something that can think better than us, we have to understand the process of thinking, which we may or may not be able to do. It's not something that we are (necessarily) prevented by our limited intelligence from doing."
That's from my original post
Responding to stimuli?
"airplanes flying is a terrible example since flying occurred long before there were computers in airplanes, in fact it was humans that took care of the computations to make them fly."
:)
You missed the point.
Humans can't fly, but they made machines that can. Nothing about computers. We designed something that can fly better than us, so why can't we design something that can think better than us? Of course it's not that simple, but I didn't make the point
We designed airplanes by understanding the relevant physics. In order to design something that can think better than us, we have to understand the process of thinking, which we may or may not be able to do. It's not something that we are (necessarily) prevented by our limited intelligence from doing.
That's the post number :(
I can't even claim to be drunk :(
but he also has the id right before yours :)
(#7225673), (#7225674)
Something fishy... :)
Ethyl alcohol *is* ethanol *is* grain alcohol (grain alcohol being a name for ethanol aka ethyl alcohol, whether or not your particular drink was actually fermented from grain). Hence when I said that wine has ethanol in it, I was also saying that it has ethyl alcohol, and not drawing a distinction between the two (because they're the same thing)! Sheesh.
After googling everclear... it turns out that what the original poster meant exactly what he said: everclear *is* grain alcohol. 95% anyway :)
Grain alcohol is just ethyl alcohol... it doesn't have to come from actual grain. Wine has ethanol in it.
Not many people would dispute that computers can add faster and better (fewer errors) than humans...
"brethren," eh?
:)
Hypocrite
Pianos are expensive. A bunch, you know, a large quantity? They make lots of pianos. Am I going to fast for you? If they make more than one piano ever... do you see where I'm going with this? Attacking Americans won't make me angry, as I'm not American.
Steinway makes pianos. From dictionary.com, economic: "Of or relating to the production, development, and management of material wealth, as of a country, household, or business enterprise." Figure it out.
Yes it is... if it's not being made in Germany, then no money goes to Germany. It really is that simple.
It's not turning the argument around, it's correcting you. Germany lost a bunch of economic activity because of stupid labour laws. Just like the US could lose a bunch of economic activity due to the DMCA. Workers have rights, what do you call the minimum wage? There are laws that protect workers from undue danger (hell, even smoking in some places!). Do you think employers pay overtime because they like giving their employees more money?
D'oh, that took me too long to get, even with my lack of beatles lyric knowledge :(
Oops. Thought the last sentence was seperate from the first :)
Oh, come on. They could make it many times more deadly by using a slightly thinner pipe and much more gunpowder (and no bowling ball). Or they could steal a gun from their parents night table. -easier by several orders of magnitude to conceal -potential to reload before you get gunned down by police -less likely to kill yourself when it goes off, or else, more likely to hit someone because you don't have to drop it on the ground pointing in a the right direction and run if you want to live Things like columbine are bound to happen, unfortunately, but that's just going too far with the paranoia.
"Of course then you'll realize the "sewer" is the programming itself, not the words they use, and you'll toss the whole thing and start reading books. Well then you'll notice the same thing in a lot of books and so forth....." By that logic, we should have no problem raising kids on hard core porn. It just starts a little higher up.
"A deep, unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something... " That signature is particularly fitting there... :)
I can't go anywhere, read anything in the paper, listen to anything on the radio, or watch anything on tv without having to see or hear a Lockheed Martin or Boeing ad. It's ridiculous!
Of course I'm unamerican, I'm Canadian :)
(I'm not ANTIAmerican though :))
That's a little self centred thinking there...
you're wrong, or at least outdated: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/meter.htm
Angry mac zealots on /.? Never! :)
By which I mean, oops, confused you with another personality type :)
So you're saying telemarketers have a basic human right to leech off of other people's time?