What exactly is a "stupid thing"? That someone wants to put substances in their body?
What about alcohol and cigarettes? Yeah, they're stupid, but that's the individual's choice if they choose to use....and trust me, your tax dollars going toward drug addicts are few and far between. You're okay with your taxes going to $200 billion wars and a plethora of other BS (people exploiting welfare amongst others), but suddenly you're concerned about your taxes on junkies? Hah.
Foolish and illegal? Hardly. You don't know me, and you obviously don't know that I do in fact know that the pills I received from a friend were vicodin (since that supply came from a pharmacy).
This is my point exactly: it's my body. WTF do you care? I'm in pain, therefore I will take whatever measures *I* feel like taking to make sure the pain goes away. I really don't give a shit what the law states.
The pills WERE vicodin, and yes, I know that lortab is the same as vicodin... DING DING DING, which is why I got vicodin when the pharmacy wouldn't acknowledge the refill of lortab, dumbass.
What exactly are you trying to get at with that statement?...and placebo effect? What are you TALKING about? The vicodin weren't placebos. They relieved my pain. All was well.. why? Because I took action when the pharmacy wouldn't.
I don't need to go to medical school to know when I'm in pain and to know when the recommended dosage isn't cutting it. I didn't triple the amount, I just took the dosage once every 2-4 hours instead of 4-6, which really isn't a big deal considering the effects wore off almost 2-3 hours on the dot. Yeah, like I'm gonna sit there for another 3 hours waiting for the next dose..
You can't retort on the "dumb shit" if you are incapable of reading and following basic comprehension, considering I JUST said my doctor allowed for the second refill. Now, please tell me how I can get my doctor to give me a refill if I didn't talk to him..
To a point... we aren't talking about rape or murder, but substances that someone willingly wants to put into their own body.
If someone wants perscription drugs, let em pay for it and get them. Why not? If they abuse it, it's their own problem.
People will retort with things like, "well it hurts their friends and family, and if they cause an accident or OD, yadda yadda".
We already have laws for being under the influence of substances, so that part, which is a big concern on the minds of most people, is taken care of.
Insurance companies won't carry them if they're an addict, and if they're somehow admitted to a hospital they will be stuck with a nice debt if they're unable to pay it off. It seems to me would be punishment enough for being so naive and not in control with yourself.
Do you see how controlled vicodin and lortab are? It's ridiculous. We're so concerned and drowning with "drugs are bad, control them," that the laws become a hindrance to those with actual needs (as explained in my previous post).
It might sound like I'm goin off the deep end, but when you experience how stingy pharmacies are due to these laws, you'll know.. especially if you're in terrible pain and have no way of treating it.
Um... right. Your ER? You're a doc I take it, huh?
Drugs shouldn't be illegal to begin with - that is the very problem here. Who cares what someone wants to put into their own body?
Saying "no no" or giving them punishments for it isn't a logical deterrent, because if you don't give it to them, they'll get it elsewhere.
The ridiculous laws make it harder for people with legitimate pain to get proper treatment. I experienced it firsthand when I had my tonsils taken out a few months back and was in HORRIBLE pain.
I had a 12 oz bottle of lortab that I used in about 2 days because the pain was so bad. The pharmacists "couldn't believe" I went through that much in a short period of time and refused to refill it even though I had direct order from the doc to go ahead and do so.
Pain is different for everybody, and not one person can use their fucking brain and realize that the "recommended" dosage doesn't exactly cut it in certain situations.
Well, I know it's not the pharmacist's fault, they just follow the laws: it's the laws and the lawmakers that are the problem.
I didn't wanna deal with the hassle and I didn't wanna wait the "legal" period to get a refill, so I sought out someone I knew that had easy access to plenty of vicodin.
It actually worked out in my favor because I decided to circumvent the system.
I don't blame the drug addicts, but rather the ridiculous limitations and control that the government has on everything when it's not logical to do so.
Of course, it's what we're used to, so the common think is that it's acceptable, and to question otherwise is insane.
It's nice to see people get modded up who have closed minded views and resort to childish anger in saying dumb shit like "Burn you son of a bitch."
Please, show me the law where this is illegal.. and none of that grey area "destruction of school property" BS - that doesn't count and won't hold up in courts.
You can EASILY solo to 60 without any probs - perhaps you are questing in the wrong locations?
Of course you need multi-player groups for the instances and elite quests, but all the normal quests could easily be completed alone.
I also haven't noticed much of a drop in terms of the story. It does change up a bit from region to region, but... it's still there at lv 50 just like it was at lv 1.
Why not allow players to sell their in-game weapons in real life through a system/interface that YOU guys create?
That way you could take a small portion, say, 3-4% of each sale and profit...
As you know, there are offshore bot farms that do nothing but trade in-game items/currency for a hefty real life profit.
If you allow it, but regulate it through your servers, not only would it allow players to feel safe in trading (as the transactions would be logged), but would also essentially run these offshort bot farms out of business.
At $14 each, that's about $49,000,000 a month! About.. $168 a year!
I know subscription costs of MMORPGs go toward maintaining servers as well as providing extra content (like the recently added battlegrounds) - but wow, that's quite a surplus of income after the basic maintenance is done!
While the recent additions have been "free" so far (free in quotes because it hasn't required the purchase of an expansion pack), does that mean that any major additions to the game (ex: new classes) in the future will remain just as "free"?
Square-Enix made a bad move with their expansion set - not only do they charge a base fee each month, but also an additional dollar per character. You figure if someone is paying that much each month to play, why would they be required to purchase an expansion set to gain access to new areas?
To get people to use firefox who otherwise could give a rats ass about IE vs. Mozilla... just take a lesson from our government - use a bit of fear mongering!
Seriously, it works.
You know how you're the "computer guy" in your family or group of friends, the one that fixes EVERYONE'S computers whenever they get infested? You know how you've fixed those same machines multiple times?
Yeah well, since you "know it all" and they don't, explain to them, "You know why you get these viruses? Internet Explorer. Here, use this other browser."
I've done this on every one of my non-computer literate friends/family members and it works like a charm.
I develop web analytic software and have it running on quite a few sites that generate large amounts of traffic - the sites aren't geared toward any one type of user, either.
While the number of downloads may be 80m, the market saturation hasn't changed all that much. IE is still ranging up in the 90% while Opera/Firefox/whatever make up the remaining 10%. This has remained fairly consistent for the past year or so.
You'd figure after 80m downloads that firefox would be populare enough so that the number would change significantly (say, dropping IE down into the low 80% range with FF making up the majority of the rest).
Until that happens, it's all just big numbered downloads with no significance whatsoever.
Well, the 75% was just an example - the main point of what I was trying to say is there are other alternative punishments that would be more effective than sitting in a prison for a few years. Hit them where it hurts: financially.
Trust me, you think it's "only" 2.5 million, but if you have that much money, you become accustomed to living a certain way, spending certain amounts, etc. If you take that foundation away from those people, TRUST me, it would be a complete mindfuck.
Take all of YOUR assets, your lifestyle, cut it back by 75% or more. You'd be miserable. On top of that, take your method of acquiring that money and throw it out the window.
However, filling up prisons with spammers is really overkill. Really, you think that throwing them in the mix with muderers and rapists is fitting?
Fine, if you wanna put him in prison, make it minimum security where they can come and go as they please and have jobs around the local city.
Not everyone has to agree with my opinions, but I sure hope people at least are open minded enough to realize there are other alternatives, and that their personal hatred of spam shouldn't cloud their judgement, otherwise they're no different from the rest of the idiots.
How is removing him from society appropriate punishment? It makes no sense whatsoever.
His goal here in spamming is to get money quick. Take away his fortune - lesson learned. What would removing his freedoms for 5 years do? If you try him in court, remove his assets, that's punishment enough.
Trust me, a millionaire couldn't STAND to be separated from his money - that is punishment enough.
I mean really, prison shouldn't even be a consideration for something like this.
Trust me, I don't look uninformed, and I know that 640 years is the maximum.
If you weren't such a dumbfuck and would take your head out of your ass for just ONE minute, you might take a second to think and wonder why the fuck they came up with 640.
Regardless, my point is perfectly valid.
Next time think about your response before typing it out only to look like a complete fuckup.
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What exactly is a "stupid thing"? That someone wants to put substances in their body?
...and trust me, your tax dollars going toward drug addicts are few and far between. You're okay with your taxes going to $200 billion wars and a plethora of other BS (people exploiting welfare amongst others), but suddenly you're concerned about your taxes on junkies? Hah.
What about alcohol and cigarettes? Yeah, they're stupid, but that's the individual's choice if they choose to use.
Foolish and illegal? Hardly. You don't know me, and you obviously don't know that I do in fact know that the pills I received from a friend were vicodin (since that supply came from a pharmacy).
...and placebo effect? What are you TALKING about? The vicodin weren't placebos. They relieved my pain. All was well.. why? Because I took action when the pharmacy wouldn't.
This is my point exactly: it's my body. WTF do you care? I'm in pain, therefore I will take whatever measures *I* feel like taking to make sure the pain goes away. I really don't give a shit what the law states.
The pills WERE vicodin, and yes, I know that lortab is the same as vicodin... DING DING DING, which is why I got vicodin when the pharmacy wouldn't acknowledge the refill of lortab, dumbass.
What exactly are you trying to get at with that statement?
I don't need to go to medical school to know when I'm in pain and to know when the recommended dosage isn't cutting it. I didn't triple the amount, I just took the dosage once every 2-4 hours instead of 4-6, which really isn't a big deal considering the effects wore off almost 2-3 hours on the dot. Yeah, like I'm gonna sit there for another 3 hours waiting for the next dose..
You can't retort on the "dumb shit" if you are incapable of reading and following basic comprehension, considering I JUST said my doctor allowed for the second refill. Now, please tell me how I can get my doctor to give me a refill if I didn't talk to him..
To a point... we aren't talking about rape or murder, but substances that someone willingly wants to put into their own body.
If someone wants perscription drugs, let em pay for it and get them. Why not? If they abuse it, it's their own problem.
People will retort with things like, "well it hurts their friends and family, and if they cause an accident or OD, yadda yadda".
We already have laws for being under the influence of substances, so that part, which is a big concern on the minds of most people, is taken care of.
Insurance companies won't carry them if they're an addict, and if they're somehow admitted to a hospital they will be stuck with a nice debt if they're unable to pay it off. It seems to me would be punishment enough for being so naive and not in control with yourself.
Do you see how controlled vicodin and lortab are? It's ridiculous. We're so concerned and drowning with "drugs are bad, control them," that the laws become a hindrance to those with actual needs (as explained in my previous post).
It might sound like I'm goin off the deep end, but when you experience how stingy pharmacies are due to these laws, you'll know.. especially if you're in terrible pain and have no way of treating it.
Um... right. Your ER? You're a doc I take it, huh?
Drugs shouldn't be illegal to begin with - that is the very problem here. Who cares what someone wants to put into their own body?
Saying "no no" or giving them punishments for it isn't a logical deterrent, because if you don't give it to them, they'll get it elsewhere.
The ridiculous laws make it harder for people with legitimate pain to get proper treatment. I experienced it firsthand when I had my tonsils taken out a few months back and was in HORRIBLE pain.
I had a 12 oz bottle of lortab that I used in about 2 days because the pain was so bad. The pharmacists "couldn't believe" I went through that much in a short period of time and refused to refill it even though I had direct order from the doc to go ahead and do so.
Pain is different for everybody, and not one person can use their fucking brain and realize that the "recommended" dosage doesn't exactly cut it in certain situations.
Well, I know it's not the pharmacist's fault, they just follow the laws: it's the laws and the lawmakers that are the problem.
I didn't wanna deal with the hassle and I didn't wanna wait the "legal" period to get a refill, so I sought out someone I knew that had easy access to plenty of vicodin.
It actually worked out in my favor because I decided to circumvent the system.
I don't blame the drug addicts, but rather the ridiculous limitations and control that the government has on everything when it's not logical to do so.
Of course, it's what we're used to, so the common think is that it's acceptable, and to question otherwise is insane.
It's nice to see people get modded up who have closed minded views and resort to childish anger in saying dumb shit like "Burn you son of a bitch."
As much as I approve of crimes like this... I just don't get why they don't know when to stop.
If you've made 3 million... walk away with what ya have. It's not worth pursuing another 3 million to risk losing it ALL.
Greed.
Ah well, no respect to dumb greedy criminals.
Go on, do a lil whois on gbrowser.com. ;)
I develop web analytic software for a living.
There's only so much you can do to track users.
IP address, user agent, some javascript stuff for cookieless tracking.. the only real "unique" identifiers for any one visitor. It stops there.
Of course, using exploits in flash doesn't count, but supposedly this new method is "not intrusive."
I call BS because it simply can't happen.
If a user doesn't wanna be tracked, they won't be tracked. This story is just press, free advertisement, and hype for this particular company.
If you don't wanna support it, then do what everyone else does - pirate.
Please, show me the law where this is illegal.. and none of that grey area "destruction of school property" BS - that doesn't count and won't hold up in courts.
You can just mod it and get a bigger HD than f'n 20 Gb for $100
I love these worms - I really do.
:)
Just goes to show you all the stupid people out there that don't patch their systems
Plus it's good to watch the media get in a big frenzy about it... not to mention all the monetary costs this will incur!
This is what I call entertainment.
Google goes all this amazing stuff... it really does.
Free Wi-Fi *tear* god bless you lil Google.
Can daddy have his complimentary hookers and an 8-ball?
Ooop, looks like a Bush-supporter found my posts!!
You can EASILY solo to 60 without any probs - perhaps you are questing in the wrong locations?
Of course you need multi-player groups for the instances and elite quests, but all the normal quests could easily be completed alone.
I also haven't noticed much of a drop in terms of the story. It does change up a bit from region to region, but... it's still there at lv 50 just like it was at lv 1.
Why not allow players to sell their in-game weapons in real life through a system/interface that YOU guys create?
That way you could take a small portion, say, 3-4% of each sale and profit...
As you know, there are offshore bot farms that do nothing but trade in-game items/currency for a hefty real life profit.
If you allow it, but regulate it through your servers, not only would it allow players to feel safe in trading (as the transactions would be logged), but would also essentially run these offshort bot farms out of business.
At $14 each, that's about $49,000,000 a month! About.. $168 a year!
I know subscription costs of MMORPGs go toward maintaining servers as well as providing extra content (like the recently added battlegrounds) - but wow, that's quite a surplus of income after the basic maintenance is done!
While the recent additions have been "free" so far (free in quotes because it hasn't required the purchase of an expansion pack), does that mean that any major additions to the game (ex: new classes) in the future will remain just as "free"?
Square-Enix made a bad move with their expansion set - not only do they charge a base fee each month, but also an additional dollar per character. You figure if someone is paying that much each month to play, why would they be required to purchase an expansion set to gain access to new areas?
But maybe that's the thing... Google is intelligent.
It just KNOWS.
I mean, we know by looking at a picture that a car is a certain color without the text "blue truck" being on a page - why couldn't google do the same?
Maybe google is god.
Um, GW Bush is the first result.
Seems fairly accurate to me...
To get people to use firefox who otherwise could give a rats ass about IE vs. Mozilla... just take a lesson from our government - use a bit of fear mongering!
Seriously, it works.
You know how you're the "computer guy" in your family or group of friends, the one that fixes EVERYONE'S computers whenever they get infested? You know how you've fixed those same machines multiple times?
Yeah well, since you "know it all" and they don't, explain to them, "You know why you get these viruses? Internet Explorer. Here, use this other browser."
I've done this on every one of my non-computer literate friends/family members and it works like a charm.
Now... if everyone were to follow suit...
I develop web analytic software and have it running on quite a few sites that generate large amounts of traffic - the sites aren't geared toward any one type of user, either.
While the number of downloads may be 80m, the market saturation hasn't changed all that much. IE is still ranging up in the 90% while Opera/Firefox/whatever make up the remaining 10%. This has remained fairly consistent for the past year or so.
You'd figure after 80m downloads that firefox would be populare enough so that the number would change significantly (say, dropping IE down into the low 80% range with FF making up the majority of the rest).
Until that happens, it's all just big numbered downloads with no significance whatsoever.
...and that is why you are a fucking hypocrite!
Sorry you fit the mold oh so well.
Well, the 75% was just an example - the main point of what I was trying to say is there are other alternative punishments that would be more effective than sitting in a prison for a few years. Hit them where it hurts: financially.
Trust me, you think it's "only" 2.5 million, but if you have that much money, you become accustomed to living a certain way, spending certain amounts, etc. If you take that foundation away from those people, TRUST me, it would be a complete mindfuck.
Take all of YOUR assets, your lifestyle, cut it back by 75% or more. You'd be miserable. On top of that, take your method of acquiring that money and throw it out the window.
However, filling up prisons with spammers is really overkill. Really, you think that throwing them in the mix with muderers and rapists is fitting?
Fine, if you wanna put him in prison, make it minimum security where they can come and go as they please and have jobs around the local city.
Not everyone has to agree with my opinions, but I sure hope people at least are open minded enough to realize there are other alternatives, and that their personal hatred of spam shouldn't cloud their judgement, otherwise they're no different from the rest of the idiots.
Possibly 640 years in jail? It's a start. One down, 200 to go.
It's vigilanteism - and you just proved my point.
Thanks!
How is removing him from society appropriate punishment? It makes no sense whatsoever.
His goal here in spamming is to get money quick. Take away his fortune - lesson learned. What would removing his freedoms for 5 years do? If you try him in court, remove his assets, that's punishment enough.
Trust me, a millionaire couldn't STAND to be separated from his money - that is punishment enough.
I mean really, prison shouldn't even be a consideration for something like this.
Trust me, I don't look uninformed, and I know that 640 years is the maximum.
If you weren't such a dumbfuck and would take your head out of your ass for just ONE minute, you might take a second to think and wonder why the fuck they came up with 640.
Regardless, my point is perfectly valid.
Next time think about your response before typing it out only to look like a complete fuckup.