Mod parent insightful. People must realize that nowadays everyone wants to listen to their particular selection of music. They want to mix songs, play them in whatever order they want, be it in a party, at bedtime, in your PMP or even in a business outlet. CDs, or DRMed discs, or even DRMs tracks that you can download but not copy freely between different devices simply are not suited for this. This is (one of) the real culprits of low CD sales.
The DRM is effectively part of the product. If for some users the included DRM sucks so badly as to overshadow the other aspects of the product, they have a right to say so and to warn everybody else against it.
I am starting to think you actually belong to 16systems. How does an encripted TIFF file prove anything? There is no way to tell if the files depicted there actually came from the HDD they claim. And no, you don't really get it. If you had read some of the posts here in/. or some papers on data recovery you would know that the procedure is somewhat costly and time consuming - either involving reading raw-data from the HDD, using custom controllers or hacked firmware, or even resorting to scanning the plate with an electron microscope. Would you do that just to prove a bunch of nerds that it can be done? Or maybe for the oh so grand prize of $40/$500? This is the real world baby. When you throw money at things, people listen. You, me, and the bunch of/. readers interested in this won't make a "reputation".
Heck, you don't get it. First, there is no motivation. I see they upped the prize to U$500, but even then, it is too low. Too low to attract the attention of anyone outside/., too low to pay the wages of the technicians doing the job, too low for anything. 16systems is virtually unknown so there is no "reputation" to be gained.
Secondly, no one can know if these guys are being honest or not. There is no way to be sure that there were actually data on the disk at some point, and that they only dd'ed it once. So why bother?
That said, I'd like to know if it can be done. But we aren't going to know this with a challenge such as this one. That no one has taken it up just proves that the challenge itself is uninteresting.
Being a president does imply an obligation to interfere in a major disaster relief. If he can do something useful by staying in Washington, so be it, as long as he actually does something. The real problem back there was that neither the federal or local government dealt with the problem as they should, and hence all the hoopla about Bush not giving a damn about NO. But there is nothing a candidate can do going there; they hold no power (yet). It is just different from being a president.
The file will be there. In digital format, nonetheless. There is no recreation involved. Just because we store things in other media these days, it doesn't mean that punch cards are any less digital. In fact, sometime ago I heard someone (yes, very precise) propose rather seriously that we used microperfurated cards as a mean of storing data. It would outlast all our current methods.
Heck, you didn't read the original post you're replying to? It all started with someone saying that crows can build tools too, therefore "exceeding the physical limits of their bodies". And they are not the only ones to do so. Of course the complexity of their tools is rather low compared to ours, but your definition of a "special species" is moot anyways.
His point was that the meaning of "casing" has nothing to do with grammar. Heck, I can't believe I am explaining a (semantic) Nazi joke. Looking forward to see what kind of Nazi will correct my post.
So you are claiming that complex systems aren't math? I'd understand if you said that complex math should be patentable, but saying that "some software is math and some isn't" look just silly to me. What software you say isn't math? Give a tangible example.
As a former physicist, I resent that. Physics use math as a tool. This is going to be a weird argument, but I could say that physics uses the part of math that is real (for very larges values of reality). The fact that you can use math to describe phenomena happening in the real world doesn't mean that these phenomena, and their study, are a subset of the field used to describe them.
Of course some people believe that abstract concepts such as a point, an irrational number such as pi or e, the Mandelbrot set or whatever fills your cup really exists at some level. For some other people, math is just a human mind construct. That is metaphysics (or maybe metamath?) and I shall not discuss that. Math is science, but not a natural science; its value to physics and other (natural) sciences is only as a tool (an invaluable tool, of course, but still a tool). If you can conceive something other than math that could be used to describe and predict physical phenomena - well, we'd use it.
No, you made a mistake here. The only thing that matters to stock is the POSSIBILITY of profit. Say you have a company that had a fenomenal loss this quarter, but are completely sure it will have tremendous success next one. You would buy it, and so would everyone that knew, driving the price up. Stock market is an exercise of futurology. I would go as far as say that what matters to stock is profit based on stock market itself, not the company.
Think SCO here. Would you buy their stock when they claimed they owned Linux? As a short term investment, it looked like a good-buy. The price went up, due solely to the percetion of the market that it might own something from Linux or IBM. And SCO bussiness wasnt bringing them any revenue by then.
Yes, perhaps tying is a better translation (and I just noticed I wrote "bound" when it should have been "binded"... oh well), but it is a different legal concept. It is not quite the same ball as MS bundling IE with Windows; it would be the same thing, say, if MS forbid Office of running under Wine, or made so that you had to buy a copy of Windows to run Office. I am pretty sure this kind of EULA provision wouldn't be legal here, illegal monopolies notwithstanding, asked some friend of mine who are lawyers, one is even a law professor and they confirmed it. Anyways, I just looked it up and Psystar is indeed based in the US - Florida, to be exact.
If they sell it as a boxed software package. Ok, I am not in the US, but here (Brazil) it is actually illegal to bind the sale of the OS to a particular hardware (or any two dissimilar things, in fact). It is in fact called a "bound sale". I guess you americans have something similar (can someone say for sure?) Not so sure about the copyright infringment part of the suit, but I guess that would be covered by the compatibility exception under the DMCA. Anyways, is Psystar american? If not then the whole talk about that (absurd) WOW ruling is moot.
One could say almost the same things about the war in Iraq. If Obama was really against the immunity, he should have voted against the bill. I don't whether he did it because he was afraid to upset a part of his electors that might think "OMG, Obama supports terrorists!", or if he truly believes in that. Guess it doesn't matter. He still seems to be the best candidate so far. But then again, I am not even american.:)
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He has a point on porn: the terms of service forbid it, much to my dismay, I must say. But then, it is open for anyone older than 13 so I see no way Google could get around that.
Basically you are assuming that the *people* were the wrongdoers, but I don't believe that is the case most of the time. Human beings may behave very differently depending on their papers, and to which group they belong to - I am trying to say that the same person which infringe a law as the director of a corporation might've not done so if he was in another position. While it might be a gross generalization, corporations may have a culture that leads to criminal behaviour. In that sense, the culprit is the corporation, not its directors. Replacing them will only restart the cycle. Besides, since the criminal behaviour might put the corporation at a position where it gains more power - at the possible expense of the human resources that run it - and this power might be used to mitigate any penalties, they will do it anyway, since the rewards are bigger than the risks.
You insensitive clod! (this is supposed to be a joke, if it hadn't happen to be true. Corporations have almost the same rights as people, yet they can't be jailed if they infringe upon the law. As I recall another/. comment, someday we'll see Coca-Cola and MS competing for the President ticket)
Education can. As long as only/. users are aware of how silly blocking P2P is, then we don't stand much of a chance. Educate every Joe Average out there and maybe these politicians will be afraid they won't be elected if they do the bids of the corporations.
Now that I wrote it... fat chance I guess. We're fucked.
Guess you misspelled it: it should be http colon slash slash slash dot [b]dot[/b] org dot slash - Nice to see it still works as a prank after all these years.:)
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Mod parent insightful. People must realize that nowadays everyone wants to listen to their particular selection of music. They want to mix songs, play them in whatever order they want, be it in a party, at bedtime, in your PMP or even in a business outlet. CDs, or DRMed discs, or even DRMs tracks that you can download but not copy freely between different devices simply are not suited for this. This is (one of) the real culprits of low CD sales.
The DRM is effectively part of the product. If for some users the included DRM sucks so badly as to overshadow the other aspects of the product, they have a right to say so and to warn everybody else against it.
I am starting to think you actually belong to 16systems. How does an encripted TIFF file prove anything? There is no way to tell if the files depicted there actually came from the HDD they claim. And no, you don't really get it. If you had read some of the posts here in /. or some papers on data recovery you would know that the procedure is somewhat costly and time consuming - either involving reading raw-data from the HDD, using custom controllers or hacked firmware, or even resorting to scanning the plate with an electron microscope. Would you do that just to prove a bunch of nerds that it can be done? Or maybe for the oh so grand prize of $40/$500? This is the real world baby. When you throw money at things, people listen. You, me, and the bunch of /. readers interested in this won't make a "reputation".
Heck, you don't get it. First, there is no motivation. I see they upped the prize to U$500, but even then, it is too low. Too low to attract the attention of anyone outside /., too low to pay the wages of the technicians doing the job, too low for anything. 16systems is virtually unknown so there is no "reputation" to be gained.
Secondly, no one can know if these guys are being honest or not. There is no way to be sure that there were actually data on the disk at some point, and that they only dd'ed it once. So why bother?
That said, I'd like to know if it can be done. But we aren't going to know this with a challenge such as this one. That no one has taken it up just proves that the challenge itself is uninteresting.
Hey, I just saw your sig... lol!
Being a president does imply an obligation to interfere in a major disaster relief. If he can do something useful by staying in Washington, so be it, as long as he actually does something. The real problem back there was that neither the federal or local government dealt with the problem as they should, and hence all the hoopla about Bush not giving a damn about NO. But there is nothing a candidate can do going there; they hold no power (yet). It is just different from being a president.
Perhaps because Bush was the fucking President and McCain and Obama aren't? Gee.
You did forget number 6:
6. Spend the rest of your life in jail.
not sure if there is a 7. ??? and an 8. Profit! though.
The file will be there. In digital format, nonetheless. There is no recreation involved. Just because we store things in other media these days, it doesn't mean that punch cards are any less digital. In fact, sometime ago I heard someone (yes, very precise) propose rather seriously that we used microperfurated cards as a mean of storing data. It would outlast all our current methods.
Heck, you didn't read the original post you're replying to? It all started with someone saying that crows can build tools too, therefore "exceeding the physical limits of their bodies". And they are not the only ones to do so. Of course the complexity of their tools is rather low compared to ours, but your definition of a "special species" is moot anyways.
who read that as "bad anal orgy guy"? And wondered WTF it had to do with LaTeX?
His point was that the meaning of "casing" has nothing to do with grammar. Heck, I can't believe I am explaining a (semantic) Nazi joke. Looking forward to see what kind of Nazi will correct my post.
You mean you would believe Bush if he went on TV to say he was anally probed by aliens, which during the process told him there were WMD in Iraq?
So you are claiming that complex systems aren't math? I'd understand if you said that complex math should be patentable, but saying that "some software is math and some isn't" look just silly to me. What software you say isn't math? Give a tangible example.
As a former physicist, I resent that. Physics use math as a tool. This is going to be a weird argument, but I could say that physics uses the part of math that is real (for very larges values of reality). The fact that you can use math to describe phenomena happening in the real world doesn't mean that these phenomena, and their study, are a subset of the field used to describe them.
Of course some people believe that abstract concepts such as a point, an irrational number such as pi or e, the Mandelbrot set or whatever fills your cup really exists at some level. For some other people, math is just a human mind construct. That is metaphysics (or maybe metamath?) and I shall not discuss that. Math is science, but not a natural science; its value to physics and other (natural) sciences is only as a tool (an invaluable tool, of course, but still a tool). If you can conceive something other than math that could be used to describe and predict physical phenomena - well, we'd use it.
No, you made a mistake here. The only thing that matters to stock is the POSSIBILITY of profit. Say you have a company that had a fenomenal loss this quarter, but are completely sure it will have tremendous success next one. You would buy it, and so would everyone that knew, driving the price up. Stock market is an exercise of futurology. I would go as far as say that what matters to stock is profit based on stock market itself, not the company.
Think SCO here. Would you buy their stock when they claimed they owned Linux? As a short term investment, it looked like a good-buy. The price went up, due solely to the percetion of the market that it might own something from Linux or IBM. And SCO bussiness wasnt bringing them any revenue by then.
Yes, perhaps tying is a better translation (and I just noticed I wrote "bound" when it should have been "binded"... oh well), but it is a different legal concept. It is not quite the same ball as MS bundling IE with Windows; it would be the same thing, say, if MS forbid Office of running under Wine, or made so that you had to buy a copy of Windows to run Office. I am pretty sure this kind of EULA provision wouldn't be legal here, illegal monopolies notwithstanding, asked some friend of mine who are lawyers, one is even a law professor and they confirmed it. Anyways, I just looked it up and Psystar is indeed based in the US - Florida, to be exact.
If they sell it as a boxed software package. Ok, I am not in the US, but here (Brazil) it is actually illegal to bind the sale of the OS to a particular hardware (or any two dissimilar things, in fact). It is in fact called a "bound sale". I guess you americans have something similar (can someone say for sure?) Not so sure about the copyright infringment part of the suit, but I guess that would be covered by the compatibility exception under the DMCA. Anyways, is Psystar american? If not then the whole talk about that (absurd) WOW ruling is moot.
How do you know it wasn't a female HDD? /*ducks*/
One could say almost the same things about the war in Iraq. If Obama was really against the immunity, he should have voted against the bill. I don't whether he did it because he was afraid to upset a part of his electors that might think "OMG, Obama supports terrorists!", or if he truly believes in that. Guess it doesn't matter. He still seems to be the best candidate so far. But then again, I am not even american. :)
He has a point on porn: the terms of service forbid it, much to my dismay, I must say. But then, it is open for anyone older than 13 so I see no way Google could get around that.
Basically you are assuming that the *people* were the wrongdoers, but I don't believe that is the case most of the time. Human beings may behave very differently depending on their papers, and to which group they belong to - I am trying to say that the same person which infringe a law as the director of a corporation might've not done so if he was in another position. While it might be a gross generalization, corporations may have a culture that leads to criminal behaviour. In that sense, the culprit is the corporation, not its directors. Replacing them will only restart the cycle. Besides, since the criminal behaviour might put the corporation at a position where it gains more power - at the possible expense of the human resources that run it - and this power might be used to mitigate any penalties, they will do it anyway, since the rewards are bigger than the risks.
They can be jailed, but they can be replaced. The corporation stays.
You insensitive clod! (this is supposed to be a joke, if it hadn't happen to be true. Corporations have almost the same rights as people, yet they can't be jailed if they infringe upon the law. As I recall another /. comment, someday we'll see Coca-Cola and MS competing for the President ticket)
Education can. As long as only /. users are aware of how silly blocking P2P is, then we don't stand much of a chance. Educate every Joe Average out there and maybe these politicians will be afraid they won't be elected if they do the bids of the corporations.
Now that I wrote it... fat chance I guess. We're fucked.
Guess you misspelled it: it should be http colon slash slash slash dot [b]dot[/b] org dot slash - Nice to see it still works as a prank after all these years. :)