Actually, Microsoft doesn't take multiple cores into account for processor licensing, so unless they removed the multiprocessor ACPI support entirely, Home should support both cores. The following language is a bit ambivalent to me:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.
While Apple was certainly screwing up every way they could in the 1990's, how can you possibly say that Microsoft did nothing wrong when they strongarmed OEMs into not licensing other operating systems, forbidding them to put Netscape and other competitors on the desktop, etc? They were not convicted of putting a browser in their OS, they were convicted of leveraging their monopoly position in operating systems to create a new monopoly over web browsers. THAT is illegal.
Compatibility has long been the reason Windows as succeeded, and Apple's missteps have helped, but there is a REASON people around here largely regard Microsoft as evil
Inspiron E1505 Intel® Core(TM) Duo processor T2500 (2MB Cache/2GHz/667MHz FSB) 1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm 15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA Display 100GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability 256MB ATI MOBILITY(TM) RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition Standard Features: IEEE 1394, 4-USB 2.0 4-pin, 5-in-1 Combo Card through ExpressCard, 15-pin VGA connector, S-Video connector, Integrated 10/100 Ethernet, Integrated v.92 56K modem HxWxD: 1.44" x 14" x 10.45" Weight: 6.18lbs Total: $2180 (after a "special offer" $200 discount)
MacBook Pro 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 Cache, 667MHz frontside bus 1GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM 15.4-inch TFT display with 1440x900 resolution 100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW) [Apple doesn't state this explicitly, but it's 4x and not dual layer] ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory Standard Features: iSight, wireless networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, ExpressCard/34 slot, dual-link DVI video out, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 2.0, FireWire 400, and optical digital and analog audio in/out. HxWxD: 1.0 x 14.1 x 9.6 Weight: 5.6lbs Total: $2500
Dell advantages: S-Video More USB 2.0 ports Better DVD burner Modem
MacBook advantages: Higher resolution screen Better GPU Lighter and smaller Single DIMM preinstalled DVI iSight Gigabit Ethernet
So, a whole $300 difference (on special), and you be the judge of those differences.
I said "in his environment". He's doing this pro bono, and is limited by whatever his hosting center has bought. I'm not familiar with NTP, but I do know that firewall performance tends to drop into the toilet when you move beyond Layer 3. This has all the hallmarks of being a matter of higher-level inspection, and will put serious hurt on a firewall.
Meanwhile, I'd like you to show me some "crap-ass Cisco gear", other than possibly their Linksys acquisition. Cisco stuff is simply some of the best, most robust, and best supported equipment out there. Gotta love things like a 6509, filled up with firewall blades, load balancing blades, and a buttload of switch ports, all tied into a ridiculously huge backplane.
Every time the company I work for has decided to go its own way (Xylan switches, Inkra firewalls, RS/6000 load balancers, Alteon/Nortel load balancers) it's been a mistake, and we ended up back at Cisco gear which performed better, was more manageable, and usually cheaper (!).
Someone didn't read the article. A third party consultant (hired at some expense) did the packet analysis, seemingly one-time. There is no feasible way to filter them in real-time in his environment. Meanwhile, unless it's done at the ingress routers or even farther up the chain, he's still going to be responsible for the bandwidth, which is the major expense.
Of course, to filter something you have to receive it, so their bandwidth costs are still going to be needlessly through the roof. If I read the article correctly, that's where the bulk of the ongoing expense is coming from.
There are so many things in there on the PowerPC development period that are just plain WRONG. There were two primary projects during this period - Jaguar and Cognac. Jaguar was a whole new platform, new OS, etc, that would have no backwards compatibility. Cognac was a classic Apple skunkworks, working on the dynamic 68K emulator that allowed a smooth transition. When Cognac succeeded and had a demo welcoming people to try and "break the emulator" (which succeeded extremely well), the Jaguar project was cancelled.
Meanwhile, the idea that "all we got from Copland was the nanokernal and text encoding" is just bullshit. Open Transport, Appearance Manager, HFS+, the nanokernal (which was only somewhat used), V-Twin (which became the early Sherlock) - hell, almost all of the API's we got from 7.6 through 8.6 were pulled from the Copland work.
(Of course, what does any of this have to do with Spindler? Not sure here either.)
Sculley may have had misplaced visions or pushed things before their time (Newton, Knowledge Navigator, etc), but Spindler was just asleep at the wheel running Apple. Under Spindler is when the Copland project went completely out of control, hardware focus vanished (there were some months when Apple would release over a dozen different Mac models, with no clear differentiation), and focus and strategy on the "classic" Mac OS was non-existant. There were all of six people writing the Mac OS when Gil Amelio came in - everyone else was assigned to Copland. There were over 20 separate marketing departments. OS releases were being shipped late and buggier than ever - they had to recall 7.5.4, and Open Transport shipped as a beta, and was horribly unstable for its first year of "production use".
No, Spindler was asleep while the company went truly to hell. Amelio then came in with some business discipline, and Jobs finished the job with both vision and excellent execution.
Another interesting side-effect is the stats. Apple is always fond of calling people 'switchers', as if when the person buys a Mac for his home, his Windows box suddenly disappears. Well, now, we've got a machine that can run anything....so...er...what is it?
I'd say it gets counted as a Mac. After all, we've been shafted all these years with "market share" (even though the overwhelming majority of that is corporate purchases) and before that with "shelf presence" (Mac software was primarily sold through excellent mail order companies).
It would feel good to have the shoe on the other foot.
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Apple blathers on and on about how they're a hardware company, but that's bull. They're a software company, and they make the best desktop operating system on the planet.
Just to nitpick - Apple makes its money on hardware, which makes it a hardware company. Apple sells that hardware via its software, which makes it a software company. Both sides are absolutely right from their own viewpoints.
The soul of the company is definitely in the Mac OS and its descendants, but the hardware is what allows them to pay the bills and offer the tight integration Apple's known for.
Are you kidding? I have several friends who rave about their kitchen knives. You hear more about Apple because you are a geek. They hear more about knives because they enjoy cooking.
Your story reminds me exactly of the attitude of "Apple Authorized Resellers" in the US, the primary dealer system before Apple opened its own retail stores. They were nightmares of poor customer service, high prices, and arrogance bred of a lack of competition. When they bitched about Apple opening its own stores to compete I not only didn't shed a tear, I gleefully laughed and prepared to dance on their graves...
I would argue they don't scratch easily, and people were abusing the hell out of them because they were tiny. Perhaps they weren't as durable as the mini (that thing was indestructible), but they aren't the fragile things asshats made them out to be.
Or get a Treo 700p from Sprint in May. All of the goodness of the Palm OS, all of the new hardware from the 700w. And the simple (and cheap!) pricing plans from Sprint. I have unlimited data use for $15 a month, and fully supported Bluetooth DUN for my laptop. Verizon just enjoys raping your ass repeatedly.
Amen to that. My Treo has dozens of applications and even a couple of sketchy hacks, and it is still rock solid. It hasn't crashed once since I disabled TreoGuard (a third party app I was using to shut off the phone at night), and that was over 9 months ago.
The Treo is the most versatile device I've ever used, wrapped in a great, simple, and above all usable interface. A great phone, great synchronization with my computer (I use Missing Sync on Mac OS X for sync with Address Book, iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, file sync, etc), it has full internet access, multimedia capability, games, you name it. I now have a single address book that supplies my phone, PDA, e-mail, instant messaging, etc. And did I mention it wraps all of this functionality in a really, really usable easy interface?
Just try to do a *fraction* of this on a BlackBerry. On a BlackBerry you get... e-mail. Yay.
On my Treo now (off topic, but damn, it's a versatile device):
Internet MicroVNC - not just VNC, but SSH tunnelling, TightVNC and server side scaling support - secure access to my desktop from anywhere Directory Asistance - Great front-end interface to online yellow pages, white pages, etc KMaps - Google Maps on my phone - excellent pssh - SSH from anywhere Quick News - RSS feeds on the go (you like them on the desktop? They're invaluable on the phone)
Multimedia TCPMP - The Core Pocket Movie Player - plays anything I throw at it - MPEG-4, DiVX, etc, and plays the full-size versions, too! Incredible performance, and open source. pTunes - A usable iTunes-ish music player with playlists, skins, and the like Camera/RescoView/etc - don't forget the camera, video recording, or taking your photos with you
Productivity DocsToGo - Office documents PalmPDF - Based on xpdf, and works really well Pocket Quicken - Manage my finances and enter Quicken data anywhere SoundRec - Voice Recorder for quick notes
Games (of course) Bejeweled2 (because my wife is addicted to it) CliFrotz - Adventure, Zork, etc will never die:) Frodo - Because running my first computer on my phone is too much fun ScummVM - Classic games are still great
And how many programs give a shit about 64-bit? Damn few, and those Pro apps a) haven't been ported in the first place, and b) will likely be waiting on the Intel versions of the Pro desktops.
Consumers (and Prosumers, and *most* Pros) don't care about 64-bit. It's nice to know it's there, but does not affect the vast majority of users. iMacs, Mac Mini's, iBooks, all won't care.
Someone has never looked at how the Mac market reacts to crap. How many non-native software projects have done decently? Microsoft Word 6.0, because it was necessary, and people vocally LOATHED it, and Firefox, because the team went far out of their way to make it look and act native (to the point that every other platform has to deal with certain OS X-isms).
OpenOffice hasn't done jack on the Mac platform, because Mac users don't want to use sofware that looks and acts like crap. Poor on-screen display, no integration with the system, etc. Yet for some reason you think running Windows, even in a virtualization environment side-by-side, will appeal to the vast majority of users?
The total userbase may be flat, but the software market is very dynamic. Based on what software is on my drive today versus several years ago, I'd say there is plenty of life for Mac application developers. Some things on my system haven't changed - MS Office, Adobe Photoshop (Elements, thank goodness), and Quicken (how I *wish* there was a decent alternative). Others have changed drasticly - backup software (Retrospect -> Super Duper), disk utilities (Norton -> DiskWarrior), every internet application I use (several times!), even something as mundane as my Palm sync software.
Mac users appreciate great stuff. Make it, and they'll switch. They won't switch to virtualization day-to-day, or poorly ported applications that were obviously never meant for their platform.
Talk about hot air, what are the pros (and cons if you will) of going with EFI? In your whole rant you haven't mentioned a single advantage of EFI.
I understand it will allow ditching the PC partition map. The day I don't have to deal with primary vs extended partitions and crap like that will be a glorious one.
At least, it will be glorious on my home server. My Intel Mac already has a GPT.
Does Intel have 64-bit next-gen (non-NetBurst) chips shipping? Oh, they don't? Hmmm.... Has Apple switched their pro, 64-bit G5 machines to Intel yet? Oh, they haven't? Hmmm...
Gee, I wonder why we only have 32-bit Intel Macs *right now*. I guess that's the way it will be forever and Apple will NEVER adopt a 64-bit processor (again).
I'd suppose they've decided there is no such market, and they're perfectly happy to let other people bleed money. Jobs first move on coming back was to kill the Newton. Certainly if there was evidence that it DID exist, they have all of the technology in place (Inkwell, etc).
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Actually, Microsoft doesn't take multiple cores into account for processor licensing, so unless they removed the multiprocessor ACPI support entirely, Home should support both cores. The following language is a bit ambivalent to me:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.
While Apple was certainly screwing up every way they could in the 1990's, how can you possibly say that Microsoft did nothing wrong when they strongarmed OEMs into not licensing other operating systems, forbidding them to put Netscape and other competitors on the desktop, etc? They were not convicted of putting a browser in their OS, they were convicted of leveraging their monopoly position in operating systems to create a new monopoly over web browsers. THAT is illegal.
Compatibility has long been the reason Windows as succeeded, and Apple's missteps have helped, but there is a REASON people around here largely regard Microsoft as evil
I call bullshit on you. From today's Dell store:
Inspiron E1505
Intel® Core(TM) Duo processor T2500 (2MB Cache/2GHz/667MHz FSB)
1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA Display
100GB 5400rpm SATA Hard Drive
8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
256MB ATI MOBILITY(TM) RADEON® X1400 HyperMemory
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Remote Control for Windows XP Media Center Edition
Standard Features: IEEE 1394, 4-USB 2.0 4-pin, 5-in-1 Combo Card through ExpressCard, 15-pin VGA connector, S-Video connector, Integrated 10/100 Ethernet, Integrated v.92 56K modem
HxWxD: 1.44" x 14" x 10.45"
Weight: 6.18lbs
Total: $2180 (after a "special offer" $200 discount)
MacBook Pro
2.0GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 Cache, 667MHz frontside bus
1GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
15.4-inch TFT display with 1440x900 resolution
100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Slot-load SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW) [Apple doesn't state this explicitly, but it's 4x and not dual layer]
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory
Standard Features: iSight, wireless networking (802.11b/g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, ExpressCard/34 slot, dual-link DVI video out, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 2.0, FireWire 400, and optical digital and analog audio in/out.
HxWxD: 1.0 x 14.1 x 9.6
Weight: 5.6lbs
Total: $2500
Dell advantages:
S-Video
More USB 2.0 ports
Better DVD burner
Modem
MacBook advantages:
Higher resolution screen
Better GPU
Lighter and smaller
Single DIMM preinstalled
DVI
iSight
Gigabit Ethernet
So, a whole $300 difference (on special), and you be the judge of those differences.
In reality, no OS has achieved the status of so simple yet so useful that grandma/sister/computer-novice can use without assistance.
Ahem.
I said "in his environment". He's doing this pro bono, and is limited by whatever his hosting center has bought. I'm not familiar with NTP, but I do know that firewall performance tends to drop into the toilet when you move beyond Layer 3. This has all the hallmarks of being a matter of higher-level inspection, and will put serious hurt on a firewall.
Meanwhile, I'd like you to show me some "crap-ass Cisco gear", other than possibly their Linksys acquisition. Cisco stuff is simply some of the best, most robust, and best supported equipment out there. Gotta love things like a 6509, filled up with firewall blades, load balancing blades, and a buttload of switch ports, all tied into a ridiculously huge backplane.
Every time the company I work for has decided to go its own way (Xylan switches, Inkra firewalls, RS/6000 load balancers, Alteon/Nortel load balancers) it's been a mistake, and we ended up back at Cisco gear which performed better, was more manageable, and usually cheaper (!).
Someone didn't read the article. A third party consultant (hired at some expense) did the packet analysis, seemingly one-time. There is no feasible way to filter them in real-time in his environment. Meanwhile, unless it's done at the ingress routers or even farther up the chain, he's still going to be responsible for the bandwidth, which is the major expense.
Of course, to filter something you have to receive it, so their bandwidth costs are still going to be needlessly through the roof. If I read the article correctly, that's where the bulk of the ongoing expense is coming from.
There are so many things in there on the PowerPC development period that are just plain WRONG. There were two primary projects during this period - Jaguar and Cognac. Jaguar was a whole new platform, new OS, etc, that would have no backwards compatibility. Cognac was a classic Apple skunkworks, working on the dynamic 68K emulator that allowed a smooth transition. When Cognac succeeded and had a demo welcoming people to try and "break the emulator" (which succeeded extremely well), the Jaguar project was cancelled.
Meanwhile, the idea that "all we got from Copland was the nanokernal and text encoding" is just bullshit. Open Transport, Appearance Manager, HFS+, the nanokernal (which was only somewhat used), V-Twin (which became the early Sherlock) - hell, almost all of the API's we got from 7.6 through 8.6 were pulled from the Copland work.
(Of course, what does any of this have to do with Spindler? Not sure here either.)
Sculley may have had misplaced visions or pushed things before their time (Newton, Knowledge Navigator, etc), but Spindler was just asleep at the wheel running Apple. Under Spindler is when the Copland project went completely out of control, hardware focus vanished (there were some months when Apple would release over a dozen different Mac models, with no clear differentiation), and focus and strategy on the "classic" Mac OS was non-existant. There were all of six people writing the Mac OS when Gil Amelio came in - everyone else was assigned to Copland. There were over 20 separate marketing departments. OS releases were being shipped late and buggier than ever - they had to recall 7.5.4, and Open Transport shipped as a beta, and was horribly unstable for its first year of "production use".
No, Spindler was asleep while the company went truly to hell. Amelio then came in with some business discipline, and Jobs finished the job with both vision and excellent execution.
We may only be months away from a general x86 release of OSX.
That's completely fucking asinine.
Windows and OS X on a Mac = Hardware revenue for Apple
Windows and OS X on a PC = Hardware revenue for someone else
Explain why this is such a good idea?
Another interesting side-effect is the stats. Apple is always fond of calling people 'switchers', as if when the person buys a Mac for his home, his Windows box suddenly disappears. Well, now, we've got a machine that can run anything....so...er...what is it?
I'd say it gets counted as a Mac. After all, we've been shafted all these years with "market share" (even though the overwhelming majority of that is corporate purchases) and before that with "shelf presence" (Mac software was primarily sold through excellent mail order companies).
It would feel good to have the shoe on the other foot.
Apple blathers on and on about how they're a hardware company, but that's bull. They're a software company, and they make the best desktop operating system on the planet.
Just to nitpick - Apple makes its money on hardware, which makes it a hardware company. Apple sells that hardware via its software, which makes it a software company. Both sides are absolutely right from their own viewpoints.
The soul of the company is definitely in the Mac OS and its descendants, but the hardware is what allows them to pay the bills and offer the tight integration Apple's known for.
Are you kidding? I have several friends who rave about their kitchen knives. You hear more about Apple because you are a geek. They hear more about knives because they enjoy cooking.
Your story reminds me exactly of the attitude of "Apple Authorized Resellers" in the US, the primary dealer system before Apple opened its own retail stores. They were nightmares of poor customer service, high prices, and arrogance bred of a lack of competition. When they bitched about Apple opening its own stores to compete I not only didn't shed a tear, I gleefully laughed and prepared to dance on their graves...
I would argue they don't scratch easily, and people were abusing the hell out of them because they were tiny. Perhaps they weren't as durable as the mini (that thing was indestructible), but they aren't the fragile things asshats made them out to be.
Or get a Treo 700p from Sprint in May. All of the goodness of the Palm OS, all of the new hardware from the 700w. And the simple (and cheap!) pricing plans from Sprint. I have unlimited data use for $15 a month, and fully supported Bluetooth DUN for my laptop. Verizon just enjoys raping your ass repeatedly.
Amen to that. My Treo has dozens of applications and even a couple of sketchy hacks, and it is still rock solid. It hasn't crashed once since I disabled TreoGuard (a third party app I was using to shut off the phone at night), and that was over 9 months ago.
:)
The Treo is the most versatile device I've ever used, wrapped in a great, simple, and above all usable interface. A great phone, great synchronization with my computer (I use Missing Sync on Mac OS X for sync with Address Book, iCal, iTunes, iPhoto, file sync, etc), it has full internet access, multimedia capability, games, you name it. I now have a single address book that supplies my phone, PDA, e-mail, instant messaging, etc. And did I mention it wraps all of this functionality in a really, really usable easy interface?
Just try to do a *fraction* of this on a BlackBerry. On a BlackBerry you get... e-mail. Yay.
On my Treo now (off topic, but damn, it's a versatile device):
Internet
MicroVNC - not just VNC, but SSH tunnelling, TightVNC and server side scaling support - secure access to my desktop from anywhere
Directory Asistance - Great front-end interface to online yellow pages, white pages, etc
KMaps - Google Maps on my phone - excellent
pssh - SSH from anywhere
Quick News - RSS feeds on the go (you like them on the desktop? They're invaluable on the phone)
Multimedia
TCPMP - The Core Pocket Movie Player - plays anything I throw at it - MPEG-4, DiVX, etc, and plays the full-size versions, too! Incredible performance, and open source.
pTunes - A usable iTunes-ish music player with playlists, skins, and the like
Camera/RescoView/etc - don't forget the camera, video recording, or taking your photos with you
Productivity
DocsToGo - Office documents
PalmPDF - Based on xpdf, and works really well
Pocket Quicken - Manage my finances and enter Quicken data anywhere
SoundRec - Voice Recorder for quick notes
Games (of course)
Bejeweled2 (because my wife is addicted to it)
CliFrotz - Adventure, Zork, etc will never die
Frodo - Because running my first computer on my phone is too much fun
ScummVM - Classic games are still great
Doesn't look like all of these drivers are working from here.
Come on, what a blatant and yet crappy rip-off. Try something innovative, like amaroK.
And how many programs give a shit about 64-bit? Damn few, and those Pro apps a) haven't been ported in the first place, and b) will likely be waiting on the Intel versions of the Pro desktops.
Consumers (and Prosumers, and *most* Pros) don't care about 64-bit. It's nice to know it's there, but does not affect the vast majority of users. iMacs, Mac Mini's, iBooks, all won't care.
Now Samsung will love you back...
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Someone has never looked at how the Mac market reacts to crap. How many non-native software projects have done decently? Microsoft Word 6.0, because it was necessary, and people vocally LOATHED it, and Firefox, because the team went far out of their way to make it look and act native (to the point that every other platform has to deal with certain OS X-isms).
OpenOffice hasn't done jack on the Mac platform, because Mac users don't want to use sofware that looks and acts like crap. Poor on-screen display, no integration with the system, etc. Yet for some reason you think running Windows, even in a virtualization environment side-by-side, will appeal to the vast majority of users?
The total userbase may be flat, but the software market is very dynamic. Based on what software is on my drive today versus several years ago, I'd say there is plenty of life for Mac application developers. Some things on my system haven't changed - MS Office, Adobe Photoshop (Elements, thank goodness), and Quicken (how I *wish* there was a decent alternative). Others have changed drasticly - backup software (Retrospect -> Super Duper), disk utilities (Norton -> DiskWarrior), every internet application I use (several times!), even something as mundane as my Palm sync software.
Mac users appreciate great stuff. Make it, and they'll switch. They won't switch to virtualization day-to-day, or poorly ported applications that were obviously never meant for their platform.
Talk about hot air, what are the pros (and cons if you will) of going with EFI? In your whole rant you haven't mentioned a single advantage of EFI.
I understand it will allow ditching the PC partition map. The day I don't have to deal with primary vs extended partitions and crap like that will be a glorious one.
At least, it will be glorious on my home server. My Intel Mac already has a GPT.
Does Intel have 64-bit next-gen (non-NetBurst) chips shipping? Oh, they don't? Hmmm....
Has Apple switched their pro, 64-bit G5 machines to Intel yet? Oh, they haven't? Hmmm...
Gee, I wonder why we only have 32-bit Intel Macs *right now*. I guess that's the way it will be forever and Apple will NEVER adopt a 64-bit processor (again).
I'd suppose they've decided there is no such market, and they're perfectly happy to let other people bleed money. Jobs first move on coming back was to kill the Newton. Certainly if there was evidence that it DID exist, they have all of the technology in place (Inkwell, etc).