People stared at _ME_ the whole time. I'd never seen anything like it. Apparently they couldn't believe a white guy was hanging out with non-whites. My friends both said they were used to it and just ignored it, but it was an eye-opener to me. Racism is alive and well in the US"
How is any of that "racism"? Sounds like curiosity to me.
"My point is that the manufacturer can prove not only that it works, but how it works without releasing all of its source code, fabrication plans, research documents, etc"
No, they can't. Any attempt to do so is refuted by saying "they tampered with the code" which being unavailable, cannot be reviewed.
Which is your entire problem. There is no reason you should have to assume anything, as ALL relevant information should be available.
It is not the individuals burden to prove that the machine is faulty, it is the burden of the manufacturer and the police to PROVE that it works as stated.
"This seems like a neat idea, as in the US there is no reason not to challenge every ticket you get"
Incorrect. Where I live (Central Florida by the way) if you challenge a ticket and fail, you can receive the full fine, points on your license, and court costs. It's the last one that gets you, as the cost is often $500 or more.
"So yes, it did cure, unless you want to be ex-tre-me-ly literal"
This is a bullshit copout. The math didn't cure anything, and it has nothing to do with literal or not. It has to do with reality. They gave theses patients a TREATMENT, of which a small part was a suggestion made by this model, which resulted in a cure.
You're kidding right? You have heard of the EU right? Well, they consider themselves on par with the USA, and continuously present statistics in that vein.
"Am I the only foil-hatted one to suspect this piece of yellow journalism was timed to sow some additional fear/causus belli over the Iranian bomb program"
"Our freedom to demand accountability from our elected political officials, provided, of course, such accountability never results in any embarassment or actual discipline to said elected officials"
You know, this is the one that bothers me the most. I have to be honest when I say that I expect a certain amount of graft in politics. My problem is that is takes SO MUCH corruption to take down a politician these days, that it's practically impossible to do.
As much as I love America, I'll be leaving because of this. IfI'm going to have my money taken by corrupt officials, I'll have it done in a country where I can hand it to them myself.
"But the fact is that a more invasive identification system is highly useful to a police state and tends by its very existance to invite violations of basic human rights, and that it is usually of very little use in protecting anyone"
Why is this a fact? Or are you (like so many others who say thos stupid crap) simply overstating your position in order to gain credibility.
It is not a fact. There are very good reasons to resist such a system, so many in fact that we don't need to fabricate new ones.
No because this is real life and not a book. I realize it's guaranteed karma to spout nonsense about 1984 every time some country tries something anit-privacy related.
"if you add what americans pay PRIVATELY for their health care to their tax bill - wait for it -- they become the most taxed people on earth"
The point you miss is that Americans have the OPTION of selecting what health care they have. It is a choice that a government entity providing the same service does not give.
People sound silly claiming one is better than the other.
They also sound silly claiming that a government entity provides "excellent" care. Maybe it's true, but frankly I doubt it. I find too many credible accounts of beuracracy and waste in Canadian government for me to believe the care is as good as you claim.
You speak of "jingo rhetoric" and yet you succumb to it.
People stared at _ME_ the whole time. I'd never seen anything like it. Apparently they couldn't believe a white guy was hanging out with non-whites. My friends both said they were used to it and just ignored it, but it was an eye-opener to me. Racism is alive and well in the US"
How is any of that "racism"? Sounds like curiosity to me.
Everything is fucking racism these days...
"My point is that the manufacturer can prove not only that it works, but how it works without releasing all of its source code, fabrication plans, research documents, etc"
No, they can't. Any attempt to do so is refuted by saying "they tampered with the code" which being unavailable, cannot be reviewed.
You're wrong on this one, just deal with it.
Not to be crass, but what was the point of your post aside from demonstrating that you're a dick?
"lot, stock, and barrel"
LOCK, stock and barrel. Used to refer to guns, as they were often sold piecemeal.
Now you know.
I am assuming"
Which is your entire problem. There is no reason you should have to assume anything, as ALL relevant information should be available.
It is not the individuals burden to prove that the machine is faulty, it is the burden of the manufacturer and the police to PROVE that it works as stated.
"This seems like a neat idea, as in the US there is no reason not to challenge every ticket you get"
Incorrect. Where I live (Central Florida by the way) if you challenge a ticket and fail, you can receive the full fine, points on your license, and court costs. It's the last one that gets you, as the cost is often $500 or more.
"So? It doesn't justify a war"
What does? I agree with many of your points, but you're begging the question here.
"So yes, it did cure, unless you want to be ex-tre-me-ly literal"
This is a bullshit copout. The math didn't cure anything, and it has nothing to do with literal or not. It has to do with reality. They gave theses patients a TREATMENT, of which a small part was a suggestion made by this model, which resulted in a cure.
You're kidding right? You have heard of the EU right? Well, they consider themselves on par with the USA, and continuously present statistics in that vein.
Don't like it, take it up with the EU.
"I thought that the cause of all those zombies rather was a stupid OS from some Redmond company..."
And guns cause shootings, big macs cause obesity, and cigarettes cause smoking.
Liberal thinking at it's finest.
"Am I the only foil-hatted one to suspect this piece of yellow journalism was timed to sow some additional fear/causus belli over the Iranian bomb program"
No, I doubt you're the only fool out there.
I lived in Switzerland for 2 years.
Idiots like you assume because you have a bit more experience that your opinion is correct.
I KNOW how the other systems work (or rather don't) which is why I dismiss them.
I hate assholes like you who assume Americans that think like me must be uncultured hillbillies.
Perhaps, when you allow that your opinion isn't the only intelligent one in the room, we can take this up again.
So, it didn't cure anyone, but rather assisted is making a treatment more effective.
I wish people would stop lying like that.
"And yes, I do think I'm funny"
Amazingly, this time you were.
"Now, I'm sorry, but you guys are obviously devolving into a fucking police state"
You cited one anecdotal example, of most likely a few overly macho jerkoffs went on a power trip.
Acting as though aberrant behavior by a few dumbasses is equivalent to apolice state is a bit much.
"Our freedom to demand accountability from our elected political officials, provided, of course, such accountability never results in any embarassment or actual discipline to said elected officials"
You know, this is the one that bothers me the most. I have to be honest when I say that I expect a certain amount of graft in politics. My problem is that is takes SO MUCH corruption to take down a politician these days, that it's practically impossible to do.
As much as I love America, I'll be leaving because of this. IfI'm going to have my money taken by corrupt officials, I'll have it done in a country where I can hand it to them myself.
You had a wonderful point, then you pooched it with that nonsense at the end.
"But the fact is that a more invasive identification system is highly useful to a police state and tends by its very existance to invite violations of basic human rights, and that it is usually of very little use in protecting anyone"
Why is this a fact? Or are you (like so many others who say thos stupid crap) simply overstating your position in order to gain credibility.
It is not a fact. There are very good reasons to resist such a system, so many in fact that we don't need to fabricate new ones.
No because this is real life and not a book. I realize it's guaranteed karma to spout nonsense about 1984 every time some country tries something anit-privacy related.
But honestly, you sound silly.
And if Canadians had any backbone, they would say fuck the US and eat the economic damage.
It's easy to claim moral high ground, until you're expected to defend it.
You're a zealot. We learned a long time ago to dismiss people like you.
Lying about how easy Linux is to use is stupid. Knock it off.
You laugh, but they did the same at my facility, and no I don't know why. It happens
"if you add what americans pay PRIVATELY for their health care to their tax bill - wait for it -- they become the most taxed people on earth"
The point you miss is that Americans have the OPTION of selecting what health care they have. It is a choice that a government entity providing the same service does not give.
People sound silly claiming one is better than the other.
They also sound silly claiming that a government entity provides "excellent" care. Maybe it's true, but frankly I doubt it. I find too many credible accounts of beuracracy and waste in Canadian government for me to believe the care is as good as you claim.
You speak of "jingo rhetoric" and yet you succumb to it.
Only because art-fags like to feel included. The movie is mediocre, like so many other "cult" movies.
Only because so many people are bandwagon jumpers does a movie like that get any traction.
"Almost half of the films were made outside the United States"
And more than half of them were!
Seriously, what the fuck does this have to do with ANYTHING?