Most companies fail to live up to their own hype. Microsoft is no different in this aspect.
As for you claiming.NET is a miserable failure, I'm unsure what method you used to arrive at this conclusion. While I currently develop for a Java/C++ shop, I have worked for a number of companies that use the full MS stack. I tend to prefer C# over Java, but develop in whatever language/platform a company needs. I'm sure I could spend 10 minutes digging and find a non-3rd party app written for.NET.
I know this is/. but making broad statements about a company and their technologies doesn't aid anyone in making an informed opinion.
The title of this article is completely mis-leading.
I fail to see how dropping 4 classes out of 24, and some of the capital city sieges, is 'Massive'. Massive typically means a very large quantity of something.
In terms of the game, while these delayed items will be missed, it is a small percentage of the overall game content.
At least read the interview to understanding what was actually announced and the reasons behind dropping a few classes.
Yes, it is called sex as well. But consenting or not, under 18 it is a criminal act.
And please don't go down the 'they are going to have sex anyways' path. That is called apathy.
The simple point is, it is against the law. So instead of having one immature person, lets let 2 of them make it together?
What Bush-Dukakis slam are you referring to anyways? No where did I mention nor slam any political party or prior candidates? My reference to an accident was simply trying to determine where folks draw the line on medical choices from parent to child
They were implying that it was a teen under 18. The fathers only say in the matter should be 'guilty' at his court hearing
Since laws need to be made based on generalizations, 13 year old girls are not mature enough to even make the choice to have sex, let alone an abortion.
Does this mean that if your 13 year gets in to an accident, his medical treatment is completely his choice with no parental involvement?/P
I cannot think of a single company that does not do this..
NFL franchisee owner comes to a city, and basically says, build us a new stadium or we will choose another town.
Companies get state and local gonverments to provide new zoning laws and tax cuts just so they won't relocate.
The bottom line is simple....if you own item A, and want item B, why can't you leverage off of item A? Because its immoral to use the legal tools you have?
So much for healthcare, where all those discounts are mainly driven off of the fact of leverage. 'We want drug X at price Y or we will have our memebers use a different drug!'
So much for unions...'We want benefit X or we will shutdown your company causing you to lose revenue'
While some these examples are extreme, why would a company want to do business in a country that will not look out for there best interests?
So I was reading/. when I came across a typical 'OMG Windows SuXors' article..
I casually sipped my afternoon coffee, set it down, and clicked the article link, bracing myself for the deluge of mind-numbing numbers and references to obscure studies.
After reading the article, I looked to the right side-bar for a list of other recent articles by the author. Trying to get a feel for the authors views, I decided to peruse a few of them.
Well, I must say. Mark Morford has to be one of the most rabid, extremist, over-reactive, leftist, tin-foil hat wearing, Moore wannabe's I've had the displeasure of reading.
Now, before the flames begin to rise, please understand the last paragraph was a simple reciprocle example of Mr. Morford's diatribes. Basically take a simple statement, and make it appear so sensationistically over-the-top.
So now to my point. How can this article be used on a news site, when it is simply nothing more than a rant? I use Linux and Windows, and on occasion Macs. I rarely have any problems with any of my systems. I have never had my Windows boxed filled with virii/trojans, nor have I had a crash in as long as I can remember. Am I just one of the lucky ones, or do I simply ignore the little monkey moving back and forth in a feeble attempt to evade my mouse click for a Free iPod
A substantial amount of money, since in releasing the e-mails would violate their own contract and open them up to civil lawsuits.
The bottom line is he agreed to the terms of services(yes, they are typically obscure). I blame folks who click through trojan and spyware agreements just as much until a law passes which says it is not legally binding.
It's not like Hitler didn't spend time reflecting upon his beliefs in the master race....
We know where that lead to.
And it is an analogy simply to point out a flaw in logic. Please do not post back in the....HOW CAN YOU COMPARE HIM TO HITLER vein, as it is misleading to the point
The ISP's are not being asked to police their users, they are being ordered to release information about subpoenaed users to the proper authorities. This is information ISP's usually maintain anyways.
As much as I hate the RIAA and other major media conglomerates, I find no fault in a company trying to enforce the standing laws.
If you think a 65mph speed limit law is unjust, are you going to complain to the ticketing officer or try to get the law changed?
I think my example didn't illustrate the simple point that if a choice is made that I find wrong, I denounce it, look down upon it, etc.
A person makes a choice to commit murder.
A person makes a choice to engage in teen sex.
A person makes a choice to become pregnant.
A person makes a choice to do drugs.
A person makes a choice steal.
A perons makes a choice to lie.
If you find that you disagree with a persons choice, then disagree, don't accept it. Now obviously there are fine lines in choices, but it is these lines that define who we are.
I think after re-reading your initial post, apathetic may have been a bit strong.
I think where we differ is on the 'acceptance'. I think if the majority of society didn't accept it, there would be a much lessor need for education.
By spending more time on education, instead of displaying our disgust torwards a bad behavior, I feel we are increasing the problem.
This is an extreme example, but we don't spend a lot of time teaching folks the proper way to pick someones pocket, we simply look down upon it and punish the behavior.
I'm sorry but that is a pretty apathetic response.
The whole 'people are going to do XXXX', so lets make sure they are educated about it is foolish.
We as a society, should look down upon any behavior we find wrong. As soon as we sit back and 'accept' it, we then condone it.
I find murder wrong, therefore I denounce it. I find teen pregnancy wrong, therefore I denounce it.
You don't have to agree with what I find 'wrong' but surely, don't assume that I should accept what you find 'right'.
I'm not looking to 'educate' kids to not have sex. If enough society looked down up it, that would be education enough. While you consider it to be 'foolish', I consider your acceptance of it lazy.
Yes RTFP and maybe actually read the the items on Bugzilla. Don't be so quick to jump on the bandwagon.
It was debated back in 2002 that this could be exploited, just because it was reported as a bug today, doesn't mean it didn't exist prior to that.
I use Firefox exclusively. There is zero benefit in allowing a browser page from the internet to execute any code on the clients machine, except to render the page.
Supporting fake protocols to allow for geewhizz functionality is just inviting problems.
Maybe centuries from now all individuals will work to the betterment of society.....
Until then, most are driven by a sense of selfish wants and desires. This means simply that if one puts time/effort into discovery/research/labor, one expects to be compensated.
If I spend 10 years developing a new communication medium, I would expect to control the market of that medium for a time period that justifies my 10 years of investment. If anyone could jump in the market as soon as I my communication medium was released, they would be the added benefactors of my time/effort, lessening the value of my 10 years.
Is that greed? Only if I charge an unfair market price for my discovery.
I agree completely.....
I think OSS solutions stand well enough on their own
merits.
I tire of the endless parade of bills being passed by governments to cater to out spoken groups. Usually their are plenty of laws on the books that would already cover abuse/misue of resources...It is simply a matter of enforcement('Hate Crimes' anyone?).
I have personally never met anyone who completely subscribed to the opinions of a single individual let alone a political party.
That said, I also understand that most debates make statements that speak in generalities. Even so, to assume that an entire political party believes 'corporations can do no wrong' is a tad presumptious.
I consider myself Republican on a number of issues(death penalty, abortion, less government, tax cuts), but also hold disdain for most politicians regardless of party due to one simple fact:
When a politician makes decisions based upon the 'loudest voice' I feel they have betrayed their on beliefs. Our beliefs and actions define us, and to have them tossed asside so precipitously leads one to think they believe in nothing(except being re-elected that is).
Those rare individuals(typically not politicians) who stand by their beliefs, are typically labeled as extreme (left/right) wing. In a society that espouses more 'acceptance and openness', I am amazed to this day that they fail to accept that their acceptance might be wrong.
Very few companies maintain backwards compatibility for extended periods of time. It is not financially beneficial for them to do so.
The focus is typically to push folks to move up to new technologies, dropping legacy systems, then rinse and repeat.
To make a statement about folks 'rich enough and naive enough to keep the.NET bandwagon rolling' is simply uninformed and very biased.
My company evaluated.NET and J2EE for building a new enterprise wide system.
When it came down to it either technology, as well as many before them, could do the job. Since we are a mixed Win/Unix shop, we decided year one to use ASP.NET on our web servers.
The decision to use.NET was based upon our current hardware for our web servers as well as our existing comfort level with MS tools and languages/libraries.
In the end, the typical arguements for using J2EE had little to no impact for us.
--begin rant--
I really do tire of seeing 'm$', 'micro$oft' et al
Really..is there anyone out there that believes that corporations purely exist to provide services out of the goodness of their hearts?
If not, may I propose the following new company slang names...
$un Ci$co GNU/Linu$ $lashdot
--end rant--
First time I've actually posted on/. - so be gentle:p
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Most companies fail to live up to their own hype. Microsoft is no different in this aspect. As for you claiming .NET is a miserable failure, I'm unsure what method you used to arrive at this conclusion. While I currently develop for a Java/C++ shop, I have worked for a number of companies that use the full MS stack. I tend to prefer C# over Java, but develop in whatever language/platform a company needs. I'm sure I could spend 10 minutes digging and find a non-3rd party app written for .NET.
I know this is /. but making broad statements about a company and their technologies doesn't aid anyone in making an informed opinion.
The title of this article is completely mis-leading. I fail to see how dropping 4 classes out of 24, and some of the capital city sieges, is 'Massive'. Massive typically means a very large quantity of something. In terms of the game, while these delayed items will be missed, it is a small percentage of the overall game content. At least read the interview to understanding what was actually announced and the reasons behind dropping a few classes.
Yes, it is called sex as well. But consenting or not, under 18 it is a criminal act.
And please don't go down the 'they are going to have sex anyways' path. That is called apathy.
The simple point is, it is against the law. So instead of having one immature person, lets let 2 of them make it together?
What Bush-Dukakis slam are you referring to anyways? No where did I mention nor slam any political party or prior candidates? My reference to an accident was simply trying to determine where folks draw the line on medical choices from parent to child
Father? It is called rape!
They were implying that it was a teen under 18. The fathers only say in the matter should be 'guilty' at his court hearing
Since laws need to be made based on generalizations, 13 year old girls are not mature enough to even make the choice to have sex, let alone an abortion.
Does this mean that if your 13 year gets in to an accident, his medical treatment is completely his choice with no parental involvement?/P
I cannot think of a single company that does not do this..
NFL franchisee owner comes to a city, and basically says, build us a new stadium or we will choose another town.
Companies get state and local gonverments to provide new zoning laws and tax cuts just so they won't relocate.
The bottom line is simple....if you own item A, and want item B, why can't you leverage off of item A? Because its immoral to use the legal tools you have?
So much for healthcare, where all those discounts are mainly driven off of the fact of leverage. 'We want drug X at price Y or we will have our memebers use a different drug!'
So much for unions...'We want benefit X or we will shutdown your company causing you to lose revenue'
While some these examples are extreme, why would a company want to do business in a country that will not look out for there best interests?
There is a very simple difference. When you record it off of the tv, you are aquiring it through a legal distribution channel.
A torrent is not a legal channel since it did not obtain the necessary permission to re-transmit the data.
So I was reading /. when I came across a typical 'OMG Windows SuXors' article..
I casually sipped my afternoon coffee, set it down, and clicked the article link, bracing myself for the deluge of mind-numbing numbers and references to obscure studies.
After reading the article, I looked to the right side-bar for a list of other recent articles by the author. Trying to get a feel for the authors views, I decided to peruse a few of them.
Well, I must say. Mark Morford has to be one of the most rabid, extremist, over-reactive, leftist, tin-foil hat wearing, Moore wannabe's I've had the displeasure of reading.
Now, before the flames begin to rise, please understand the last paragraph was a simple reciprocle example of Mr. Morford's diatribes. Basically take a simple statement, and make it appear so sensationistically over-the-top.
So now to my point. How can this article be used on a news site, when it is simply nothing more than a rant? I use Linux and Windows, and on occasion Macs. I rarely have any problems with any of my systems. I have never had my Windows boxed filled with virii/trojans, nor have I had a crash in as long as I can remember. Am I just one of the lucky ones, or do I simply ignore the little monkey moving back and forth in a feeble attempt to evade my mouse click for a Free iPod
At least read the blog entry before posting.
Then you would see that they know it was not XHTML compliant yet, but was a work in progress getting there.
Jumping on the bandwagon and saying "XHTML Strict my Arse" would warrant the reply RTFA
A substantial amount of money, since in releasing the e-mails would violate their own contract and open them up to civil lawsuits. The bottom line is he agreed to the terms of services(yes, they are typically obscure). I blame folks who click through trojan and spyware agreements just as much until a law passes which says it is not legally binding.
Time has zero worth to the validity of a belief.
A truth today, is usally true tomorrow.
It's not like Hitler didn't spend time reflecting upon his beliefs in the master race....
We know where that lead to.
And it is an analogy simply to point out a flaw in logic. Please do not post back in the....HOW CAN YOU COMPARE HIM TO HITLER vein, as it is misleading to the point
Microsoft released a horrible version of Java?!?
I must have missed that one.
I do remember the MS versions of the JVM. If I recall, and I'm sure I'll be corrected it not, the MS JVM ran circles around the Sun JVM.
Yes MS, included a number of extensions to Java(clearly marked in the documentation/MSDN), but I wouldn't say that made it bad.
What did they cripple about Java? Portability? That would be the developers choice for using the extensions.
Read the article....
The ISP's are not being asked to police their users, they are being ordered to release information about subpoenaed users to the proper authorities. This is information ISP's usually maintain anyways.
As much as I hate the RIAA and other major media conglomerates, I find no fault in a company trying to enforce the standing laws.
If you think a 65mph speed limit law is unjust, are you going to complain to the ticketing officer or try to get the law changed?
I think my example didn't illustrate the simple point that if a choice is made that I find wrong, I denounce it, look down upon it, etc.
A person makes a choice to commit murder. A person makes a choice to engage in teen sex. A person makes a choice to become pregnant. A person makes a choice to do drugs. A person makes a choice steal. A perons makes a choice to lie.
If you find that you disagree with a persons choice, then disagree, don't accept it. Now obviously there are fine lines in choices, but it is these lines that define who we are.
I think after re-reading your initial post, apathetic may have been a bit strong.
I think where we differ is on the 'acceptance'. I think if the majority of society didn't accept it, there would be a much lessor need for education.
By spending more time on education, instead of displaying our disgust torwards a bad behavior, I feel we are increasing the problem.
This is an extreme example, but we don't spend a lot of time teaching folks the proper way to pick someones pocket, we simply look down upon it and punish the behavior.
The murder example, was intended to point out the choice the murderer made, not the victim.
I look down up the actions of the murderer.
I'm sorry but that is a pretty apathetic response.
The whole 'people are going to do XXXX', so lets make sure they are educated about it is foolish.
We as a society, should look down upon any behavior we find wrong. As soon as we sit back and 'accept' it, we then condone it.
I find murder wrong, therefore I denounce it. I find teen pregnancy wrong, therefore I denounce it.
You don't have to agree with what I find 'wrong' but surely, don't assume that I should accept what you find 'right'.
I'm not looking to 'educate' kids to not have sex. If enough society looked down up it, that would be education enough. While you consider it to be 'foolish', I consider your acceptance of it lazy.
Yes RTFP and maybe actually read the the items on Bugzilla. Don't be so quick to jump on the bandwagon.
It was debated back in 2002 that this could be exploited, just because it was reported as a bug today, doesn't mean it didn't exist prior to that.
I use Firefox exclusively. There is zero benefit in allowing a browser page from the internet to execute any code on the clients machine, except to render the page.
Supporting fake protocols to allow for geewhizz functionality is just inviting problems.
Maybe centuries from now all individuals will work to the betterment of society.....
Until then, most are driven by a sense of selfish wants and desires. This means simply that if one puts time/effort into discovery/research/labor, one expects to be compensated.
If I spend 10 years developing a new communication medium, I would expect to control the market of that medium for a time period that justifies my 10 years of investment. If anyone could jump in the market as soon as I my communication medium was released, they would be the added benefactors of my time/effort, lessening the value of my 10 years.
Is that greed? Only if I charge an unfair market price for my discovery.
I agree completely..... I think OSS solutions stand well enough on their own merits. I tire of the endless parade of bills being passed by governments to cater to out spoken groups. Usually their are plenty of laws on the books that would already cover abuse/misue of resources...It is simply a matter of enforcement('Hate Crimes' anyone?).
I have personally never met anyone who completely subscribed to the opinions of a single individual let alone a political party.
That said, I also understand that most debates make statements that speak in generalities. Even so, to assume that an entire political party believes 'corporations can do no wrong' is a tad presumptious.
I consider myself Republican on a number of issues(death penalty, abortion, less government, tax cuts), but also hold disdain for most politicians regardless of party due to one simple fact:
When a politician makes decisions based upon the 'loudest voice' I feel they have betrayed their on beliefs. Our beliefs and actions define us, and to have them tossed asside so precipitously leads one to think they believe in nothing(except being re-elected that is).
Those rare individuals(typically not politicians) who stand by their beliefs, are typically labeled as extreme (left/right) wing. In a society that espouses more 'acceptance and openness', I am amazed to this day that they fail to accept that their acceptance might be wrong.
Very few companies maintain backwards compatibility for extended periods of time. It is not financially beneficial for them to do so.
.NET bandwagon rolling' is simply uninformed and very biased.
.NET and J2EE for building a new enterprise wide system.
.NET was based upon our current hardware for our web servers as well as our existing comfort level with MS tools and languages/libraries.
/. - so be gentle :p
The focus is typically to push folks to move up to new technologies, dropping legacy systems, then rinse and repeat.
To make a statement about folks 'rich enough and naive enough to keep the
My company evaluated
When it came down to it either technology, as well as many before them, could do the job. Since we are a mixed Win/Unix shop, we decided year one to use ASP.NET on our web servers.
The decision to use
In the end, the typical arguements for using J2EE had little to no impact for us.
--begin rant--
I really do tire of seeing 'm$', 'micro$oft' et al
Really..is there anyone out there that believes that corporations purely exist to provide services out of the goodness of their hearts?
If not, may I propose the following new company slang names...
$un
Ci$co
GNU/Linu$
$lashdot
--end rant--
First time I've actually posted on