Actually you're half right. I got a 360 hd drive with King Kong.
So far I've cracked it, run it on my PC,run it on my 360, re-encoded it to allow streaming and playback on linux and non HDCP compliant hardware removed the FBI sh1t warning and sundry other dross........But I've just realised. not once have I actually sat down and enjoyed more than a couple of minutes of the film
yes, when there is perceived to be no alternative, but as usual with this sort of comment the point was missed it was MS that asked the EU what they thought they should charge, so I guess the question you should have asked was Is it right that a company should be able to ask an elected government what it should charge.....but then that wouldn't suit the free-market above all else point of view
Having lived through both I think you'll find that Nixon was a LOT more honourable, at least he bowed out (eventually). I think the only way this one will leave is kicking and screaming.
but a firmware update on disc is a MUCH easier thing to manipulate than the one on the player, that was one of the points I was trying to make.
Yes, but my point was that it wasn't. Either you can decrypt the key or you can't. i.e. either you can attack the encryption algorithm or you can't. Unless I missed some breaking news, you can't. As I indicated, it's not like they'll be sending/storing the key in cleartext.
You don't NEED to crack the encryption if you can snoop the keys, but if you do, having the encrypted text and the cleartext sure helps. actually using the key lengths they've used its not too hard I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I said I'm no expert on cryptography.
Er, not if each software or hardware player has its own key, which as I understand it, it does. (a key for each model/version, not for individual players).
So you're stuck with trawling memory for random* data again. Knowing what one private key is does not help you crack others, otherwise you have a pretty weak encryption algorithm. Barring naive implementations, of course, which I'm not saying is impossible...but for software players that cannot mandate hardware support (like a TPM style device), due to virtualisation abilities, it's hard to see how they will remain uncrackable indefinitely.
You are correct, but missed the point, I wasn't talking only about "knowing" the keys, I quite deliberately said knowing INFORMATION about the keys. which is a different thing entirely. for example I know the length of the key, I know information about the when the key is passed etc. (note the etc I don't want to list everything known) that is far more important/useful in finding other device, player and disk keys
All this is just speculation of course but I can see how it might/will be done
(NB. I am not a cryptographer, I just play at being a clueless amateur on slashdot) same here!!
but a firmware update on disc is a MUCH easier thing to manipulate than the one on the player, that was one of the points I was trying to make.
My understanding from reading the doom9 forums is WINDVD8 was cracked by reading the pc memory during the handshaking before playback. this should theoretically be possible on any pc like device.
That's the problem with any DRM scheme at some point the data MUST be in memory unencrypted you don't need to use/understand cryptography to do an end run around it, which, basically, is what happened.
The beauty of the present situation is we now know a whole set of keys and information about those keys. Logically that makes it easier to find keys in other software no matter how well hidden
Unlike the DVD hack this wasn't the result of a flawed player (where the keys where obvious) but the result of a fundamental flaw in all DRM attempts
I seem to remember that early on in the HD/BR development for VISTA it was said that only 64bit vista would be supported because of its protected memory features, but they have been cracked now (see the post on here about VISTA signed drivers) if you have the drivers you can read the memory:) I may be wrong here but it IS logical.
once its been done once it is always easier a second time
yes so how do you find the new ps3 key.... you compare the new firmware with the old and voilà ( well not quite that straight forwards but you get the idea)
Its been hacked once therefore the security will be much lower as both the known key and the unknown key will be out there, the key must be transmitted with the "upgrade" or what's the point. you can also make a pretty good guess as to where in the code the information was and now is.
your logic in the first case is probably correct
In the second case you are in error, think about it, companies would far rather you pirated their software than used or bought a competitors product.
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The reason USB cables work so well is that the design was originally for game consoles
If you design for a 3 yr old user it has to be robust. Users and 3yr olds have a lot in common, So they work pretty well.
Having said that my father-in-law (85) managed to plug one in the wrong way round,toasting a motherboard backplane, I didn't know he had that much strength left!
Yes I get your point and you are undoubtedly correct, but the point I was trying to make is that she seems to have tried to set up a situation whereby whatever someone does they end up breaking (her idea of what) the law is. And that that shows far more intent to extort money than protecting copyright. and that her conduct would probably fall within the realms of Barratry at least within the UK
Actually that is 'Grievous Bodily Harm', and if its done by the NHS computer contractors it'll have terminal altzheimers disease at the very least ( as well as being vastly over budget and not actually working, tho' it will probably make you a nice cup of tea )
no expence except a cheap heat spreader soldered to a flattened copper tube works quite well, but its mainly not about speed but quietness you don't need a case fan at all. and now you can actually get a water cooled PSU I belive
IANAL
The first answer does not apply as you own the car and in software he does not own the computer or data from other files
As for the second point, in the uk and other places I believe the rule is 'proportionate response' you cannot intentionally set out to harm someone just for stealing your car. note the use of intentional, if for example your cars brakes where defective and he stole it and injured himself you'd probably escape prosecution as long as it was locked and/or had a notice warning of the problem but if you left the doors open and the keys in you might be in trouble.
Thus if he just deleted the programs files and data no problem if he deletes anything else big problem (for him)
as ye reap so shall ye sow. or basically you (well the US admin)started all this FUD so its not surpising that the law of unintended consequences turned round and bit
I got this email last night and being at a loose end I spent 10mins pointing out the errors, distortions and misuse of old statistics(otherwise known as lies) in his reply.
I'm sure it won't do much good but it did make me feel much bettter
I'm also sure an excuse will be made soon to stop these petitions as they continually show No10 in a bad light, the latest one against 'road pricing' has 1.5million signatures so far.
In the uk media the road pricing debate has continually been focused on the cost and ignored the civil liberty of all road travel being known to the authorities!
Well I can beat that! my 15 yr old rig runs the latest software and games real well. mind you I've replaced the case,cpu. graphics, motherboard psu, ram, drives, keyboard mouse and PSU a few times......but its still the same computer I built 15yrs ago
I prefer to believe in Terry Prachett, after all it makes far more sence (will someone correct this I can never spell it and firefox's dictionary doesn't pick it up) than some crazy stuff in some odd book from years ago.
The universe is an odd place and I wouldn't be surprised if the supreme being (if (s)he exists) put all those fossils there just before they where dugg up, would be great fun to watch all the theories sprout up.
I like the idea of a world carried by 4 elephants on the back of a star turtle there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it
Hey dude pass that over its seriously good stuff man....................
If nvidia IS breaking the licence, and the consensus semms to be that they are.
What is to stop someone reverse engineering the binary and posting the source code to it ( apart from the actual reverse engineering difficulties) I would have thought they would be in a pretty strong legal position because of the GPL and the onus would be on nvidia to make a case rather than the other way around
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Actually you're half right. I got a 360 hd drive with King Kong.
So far I've cracked it, run it on my PC,run it on my 360, re-encoded it to allow streaming and playback on linux and non HDCP compliant hardware removed the FBI sh1t warning and sundry other dross........But I've just realised. not once have I actually sat down and enjoyed more than a couple of minutes of the film
Well I can think of several uses in the HD=dvd and Bluray area :), and its nice that the code is available
yes, when there is perceived to be no alternative, but as usual with this sort of comment the point was missed it was MS that asked the EU what they thought they should charge, so I guess the question you should have asked was
Is it right that a company should be able to ask an elected government what it should charge.....but then that wouldn't suit the free-market above all else point of view
Having lived through both I think you'll find that Nixon was a LOT more honourable, at least he bowed out (eventually). I think the only way this one will leave is kicking and screaming.
Glad I saw this , I was just on my way out to buy 'casino royal'
but now I'm off to piratebay instead, way to go sony
but a firmware update on disc is a MUCH easier thing to manipulate than the one on the player, that was one of the points I was trying to make.
Yes, but my point was that it wasn't. Either you can decrypt the key or you can't. i.e. either you can attack the encryption algorithm or you can't. Unless I missed some breaking news, you can't. As I indicated, it's not like they'll be sending/storing the key in cleartext.
You don't NEED to crack the encryption if you can snoop the keys, but if you do, having the encrypted text and the cleartext sure helps. actually using the key lengths they've used its not too hard I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I said I'm no expert on cryptography. Er, not if each software or hardware player has its own key, which as I understand it, it does. (a key for each model/version, not for individual players).
So you're stuck with trawling memory for random* data again. Knowing what one private key is does not help you crack others, otherwise you have a pretty weak encryption algorithm. Barring naive implementations, of course, which I'm not saying is impossible...but for software players that cannot mandate hardware support (like a TPM style device), due to virtualisation abilities, it's hard to see how they will remain uncrackable indefinitely.
You are correct, but missed the point, I wasn't talking only about "knowing" the keys, I quite deliberately said knowing INFORMATION about the keys. which is a different thing entirely. for example I know the length of the key, I know information about the when the key is passed etc. (note the etc I don't want to list everything known) that is far more important/useful in finding other device, player and disk keys
All this is just speculation of course but I can see how it might/will be done
(NB. I am not a cryptographer, I just play at being a clueless amateur on slashdot) same here!!
:) I may be wrong here but it IS logical.
but a firmware update on disc is a MUCH easier thing to manipulate than the one on the player, that was one of the points I was trying to make.
My understanding from reading the doom9 forums is WINDVD8 was cracked by reading the pc memory during the handshaking before playback. this should theoretically be possible on any pc like device.
That's the problem with any DRM scheme at some point the data MUST be in memory unencrypted you don't need to use/understand cryptography to do an end run around it, which, basically, is what happened.
The beauty of the present situation is we now know a whole set of keys and information about those keys. Logically that makes it easier to find keys in other software no matter how well hidden
Unlike the DVD hack this wasn't the result of a flawed player (where the keys where obvious) but the result of a fundamental flaw in all DRM attempts
I seem to remember that early on in the HD/BR development for VISTA it was said that only 64bit vista would be supported because of its protected memory features, but they have been cracked now (see the post on here about VISTA signed drivers) if you have the drivers you can read the memory
once its been done once it is always easier a second time
yes so how do you find the new ps3 key .... you compare the new firmware with the old and voilà ( well not quite that straight forwards but you get the idea)
Its been hacked once therefore the security will be much lower as both the known key and the unknown key will be out there, the key must be transmitted with the "upgrade" or what's the point. you can also make a pretty good guess as to where in the code the information was and now is.
your logic in the first case is probably correct
In the second case you are in error, think about it, companies would far rather you pirated their software than used or bought a competitors product.
The reason USB cables work so well is that the design was originally for game consoles
If you design for a 3 yr old user it has to be robust. Users and 3yr olds have a lot in common, So they work pretty well.
Having said that my father-in-law (85) managed to plug one in the wrong way round,toasting a motherboard backplane, I didn't know he had that much strength left!
Yes I get your point and you are undoubtedly correct, but the point I was trying to make is that she seems to have tried to set up a situation whereby whatever someone does they end up breaking (her idea of what) the law is. And that that shows far more intent to extort money than protecting copyright. and that her conduct would probably fall within the realms of Barratry at least within the UK
Looks like she's trying a bit of 'entrapment' probably for monetary gain. I think there's probably a law against it
Allegedly (that's a 'get out of jail free' in the UK, you can say what you like about anyone or thing, as long as you only allege it )
Actually that is 'Grievous Bodily Harm', and if its done by the NHS computer contractors it'll have terminal altzheimers disease at the very least ( as well as being vastly over budget and not actually working, tho' it will probably make you a nice cup of tea )
no expence except a cheap heat spreader soldered to a flattened copper tube works quite well, but its mainly not about speed but quietness you don't need a case fan at all. and now you can actually get a water cooled PSU I belive
IANAL
The first answer does not apply as you own the car and in software he does not own the computer or data from other files
As for the second point, in the uk and other places I believe the rule is 'proportionate response' you cannot intentionally set out to harm someone just for stealing your car. note the use of intentional, if for example your cars brakes where defective and he stole it and injured himself you'd probably escape prosecution as long as it was locked and/or had a notice warning of the problem but if you left the doors open and the keys in you might be in trouble.
Thus if he just deleted the programs files and data no problem if he deletes anything else big problem (for him)
as ye reap so shall ye sow. or basically you (well the US admin)started all this FUD so its not surpising that the law of unintended consequences turned round and bit
Send him to the UK, He can get a job monitoring some of the millions of CCTV camera's here
not any more its been sold to apple
I got this email last night and being at a loose end I spent 10mins pointing out the errors, distortions and misuse of old statistics(otherwise known as lies) in his reply.
I'm sure it won't do much good but it did make me feel much bettter
I'm also sure an excuse will be made soon to stop these petitions as they continually show No10 in a bad light, the latest one against 'road pricing' has 1.5million signatures so far.
In the uk media the road pricing debate has continually been focused on the cost and ignored the civil liberty of all road travel being known to the authorities!
Its important to be fair and ensure both formats are equally broken.
Well I can beat that! my 15 yr old rig runs the latest software and games real well. mind you I've replaced the case,cpu. graphics, motherboard psu, ram, drives, keyboard mouse and PSU a few times......but its still the same computer I built 15yrs ago
I prefer to believe in Terry Prachett, after all it makes far more sence (will someone correct this I can never spell it and firefox's dictionary doesn't pick it up) than some crazy stuff in some odd book from years ago.
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The universe is an odd place and I wouldn't be surprised if the supreme being (if (s)he exists) put all those fossils there just before they where dugg up, would be great fun to watch all the theories sprout up.
I like the idea of a world carried by 4 elephants on the back of a star turtle there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it
Hey dude pass that over its seriously good stuff man
If nvidia IS breaking the licence, and the consensus semms to be that they are.
What is to stop someone reverse engineering the binary and posting the source code to it ( apart from the actual reverse engineering difficulties) I would have thought they would be in a pretty strong legal position because of the GPL and the onus would be on nvidia to make a case rather than the other way around
the lack of software pattents in the EU
Not to be too pedantic about this. But Plutonium was discovered not created.