Two things are very common for slashdot last two months - too much "ohhh how good Windows 7 will be" articles (clearly a organized propaganda using clueless Slashdot editors, but hey, it brings ads money in) and clearly too much "look, look, another *suspicious* persona appointed by eeeeeeeeevil Obama. He is eeeeevil. He is just like rest of politicians. They all are evil manipulative bastards".
Yes, Obama is not Jesus or not perfect president either. Gosh. But he is best what we can have now. So far I have heard only speculative things about him. All his cabinet is gone trough something like fiveteen times, looking for everyone's smallest mistake. Wow, why you didn't give such hard ticket to Bush? Ohh, because he didn't care. Now we found someone who does and let's make him hard time.
Isn't that funny when people hype something too much and then lay their anger and confusion when something doesn't go according to their plan? And for paranoia that everything is controled by coorporations and power peole, see "Syriana". We would like to thing that there is some huge in control, because then we could better justify why we are powerless. Because "other people are simply stupid or I am just too paranoid and no one listens to me" doesn't fly anymore.
Grow up.
And about Microsoft - already said, Microsoft is geeks 'female fatale' - no matter how it has screwed them over, they keep crawling back.
Exactly. SimCopter is abadonware and SimCity is only serious sim we can talk about. Microsoft left Flight Simulator for good and there hasn't been other kind of sims for years.
Let's be honest - sims are very hard to do, and very hard to balanse and make it fun (read Will Wright and team about Simcity 3000/4000 and how hard it was to make it rock).
Yeah, such companies are really into such sims. Wait...they are more willing to crunch out dysopian shooters than any real life sim. Where is my copter sim? Where is living city sim? Ahhh right, they are hard to do, expensive, and doesn't pay back so well as dump shooters.
Actually SimFarmer would make huge sense for small kids to learn about how food gets to the supermarket.
Seconded - real practice of commercial Linux apps shows that it is not that hard. Usually it is SDL sound layer with ALSA hooks (and SDL was created by professional commercial game porters with open source in mind) - but SDL can also connect with other stuff, esound for example. If you need something advanced in the game - position, etc. you can take a look on OpenAL stuff (which is commercially created open standard taking a page from OpenGL book), lot of ID games uses this. For higher layer - yes, PulseAudio takes over distros these days - but it has nice ALSA emulation layer which improves day after day (yeah, there are some glitches but I think Lenart will handle this). If you need additional internal processing - Gstreamer comes to rescue with highly standardized interfaces and regular support for your codecs.
There are three, four tops libs which are aviable everywhere - and that's what devs them. And they each excel at what they do.
Ohh my God, another "Linux architecture is hard, therefore vendors have problems" apologist.
Listen, CCP was never hiding behind a fact that so called "Linux client" is just a Windows client with Wine wrapper. And frankly, with Wine or Crossover Games you would have more success than Transgaming (which from mine point of view is completely shite). Transgaming based client has hard time with ATI video cards, with exsotic sound card settings, etc. Of course you can tweak it, but what's the point then? They have nice forum where people already exchanging with ideas how to get EVE running on Linux.
There are one space sim (rather funny one), which has real *native* client. NEVER had problems with that, even on open source ati drivers on Radeons. So propably it is not that hard to do that...natively.
Those screenshots and mentioned features really shows very rapid progress free desktop (GNOME, KDE and standalone apps) have achieved these 8 years (from KDE 2/GNOME 1.4 ugly-as-butt-but-functional to KDE 4.2/GNOME 2.2x ohh-shiny-and-my-tv-card-is-working). Yes, there are still issues, there are problems, but progress is deniable and imho only Mac OS X can fight with feature set offered by free desktop.
Ok, yes, apps does matter and market share and knowhow too, but still...this is indication that free desktop is here to stay and won't go anywhere but forward.
And btw, yes. Mandrake ruled the day back then. First distro which took users (no matter expierenced or newbies) *seriously* (nice looking themes, icons, serious localization, superb packaging - you name it). And it is still very hugely used in Europe and they are profitable company (escaped from bankrupt once), as far as I have heard. Shuttleworth definitely would say that Mandrake was inspiration for Ubuntu.
...is all what's needed. Why dublicate efforts? Even more when both Qt and GTK+ is nicely running in Windows environment (KDE4 is even ported to Win32).
Sorry, but what I have read in Internet in last few weeks, it all smells like so well orchestrated hype and geeks, who are usually so smart to point out what's wrong with Linux, suddenly are ready to pass over the fact that Windows 7 is just marketing ploy to try to sell Vista.
And I am usually very careful with words, because yes, I agree, everyone uses what suits them best and what they know. And yes, saying "Windows sux0rs, Linux ftw!" is totally wrong way to spread the world of positive effects of using free desktop. But it is hard not to see overhyping done to Windows 7 in last month. I have even coined a say - Microsoft is geek's 'female fatale'. It will screw you over, act arrogantly, even will pose to leave you, but geeks will love it anyway. Like bunch of children. Maybe it is time to start to act like grownups.
p.s. it is not that Apple and Linux have such geeks, but at least they are fewer of them. And in Linux, if I see problem, I will care to fix it as developer and tester - because I care about it.
.... -Imagination Technologies: happy as they overburdened-with-IP-licenses tech are used almost everywhere and everyone pays for the hit, because there aren't competition, even from Intel itself
I think it is more about the lines of "omg, there is new sublaptop market here, quick, we need solution. Damn, our video chip uses too much power. Ok, there is some niche chip which could suit us. But there is lot of NDA and proprietary stuff. Heck, let's ride with it and see if it sticks. If not, we will abandon a driver."
It is clearly a totally different video card with different chip (which have closed parts not developed by Intel). So it ends there where usually such drivers goes - to trash can.
1) Microsoft biggest numbers comes from forced OEM deals. Of course it will sell well, no matter they will do. Question is - will enterprises will buy into it. I guess not; 2) Apple copies others stuff, but they do very nice integration. I am no Apple fanboi, I have seen OS X ugly side. But for common users it is much more "good enough" than Windows. Comparing to that - Microsoft copied translucent windows and graphics bang - ok, it is never hurt to OS to look pretty. But in same time destroy everything you have done right so far...Why? Apple rarely does it, they somehow know what is done right; 3) Last sentence about 'female fatale' was meant about that IT geeks are easily swung into another marketing hype from Microsoft. For example, I use Ubuntu Linux and know it's many weaknesess, but I don't hype it to others. I say honestly what I think about it and why I use it and what I think about it shortcomings. All I hear from geeks now is "Wow, it works, it is a slightly better than Vista, so everyone must upgrade to it." Gah. Nonsense;
And common crowd is other matter. They of course will use what you will give them and help them to set up and work with.
Windows 7 is Microsoft attempt out of sheer despair to get something sellable out of Vista codebase. But still it falls in almost the same traps. Yes, I have used both. Sorry, but it is just trying each time harder to replicate OS X success formula, not trying to go their own, unique way. It indicates lack of vision in MS. In same time stuff like Control Panel is screwed beyond recognition.
I already joked to my Twitter friends that Microsoft is IT guys 'female fatale' - it fucks up your life anytime you encounter her, but still people are so devoted to her. Geeks, you need get love somewhere else:)
Let's be more precise - people's unavailability and lack of education about how to deal with frustration (practical psychology), also respect to other people. Or even shorter - "learn how to enjoy losing". It doesn't make you a loser, but it will help you don't lose a cool and temper when something goes the way you haven't intended.
I had to learn it, because I hated to lose when I was teenager. Even when playing card games.
1) No, Novell has huge money reserves. It is not huge indication of survival, but they did minimization of expenses year ago, so it could be their chance to actually improve their performance. Of course, people would vote them just because their "Microsoftised" Linux. Sorry guys, it ain't gonna happen;
2) NetApp - maybe, don't have lot of actual products to offer;
3) Checkpoint - lot of cash, have actual products, which is highly valuated;
4) McAfee - wet dreams, but no
5) Salesforce.com - huge posibility
6) No for AMD and CA, Juniper could be bought by Cisco or someone bigger
7) Sun - sorry, this is not "I-hate-them-and-they-should-go-away" list:) Maybe Sun isn't perfect, but again, as Novell, they went trough forced restruct and I don't think that this crisis will make them disappear.
8) Citrix could have be gone to the way of Dodo already some time ago, but they seemingly still have to offer something. Also if there are lot of thin client businesses open up as an answer to cutting expenses of IT dep, they could have a chance;
9) Symantec - again, like it or not, antivirus will still be sold in huge numbers and still user boxes will be happy-slacky zombies;
10) VMware - will be bought by someone. Xen and KVM eats it's breakfast;
So one could be big posibility to go down, two or three could be bought, and rest of others will just lay off huge numbers and will be more or less fine.
Sorry, but "virtual" or "real" Zionists have nothing to do with current situation. Hamas has aim to destroy Israel. You can spin it as you want, but it is a fact. They don't hide it even now. If someone would threaten to destroy my country just because some saint book tells me so, sorry, no dice.
War is always wrong, but so far I understand jews much better than palestinians.
Because countries of North America were founded by opportunistic and "looking-for-luck" people? Smart people were to clever to go there first:)
Jokes aside, North America always have some "me me me" and "it is all about me, screw others" atittude a little bit. Of course, there is lot of found and good people (and I believe they form majority), but they somehow ignore those egoists till they start to dance over them.
Linux need really up-to-date hardware database (how it's working, why not it's not working, issues) and testing labs. Yes, you can never test all kind of hardware while developing distro, but at least you can try to get some stuff working 100%. Otherwise it is kinda stupid when Intel wifi chipsets have open source drivers, but they don't work on Ubuntu Intrepid just because it broke somewhere near the end of development cycle.
I see testing labs like coordinated effort from main distros. It could be started by Ubuntu, or Fedora and then joined by others. Idea is simple - there are lot of geeks and powerusers who use Linux regularly and they would be glad to help - run specially developed tests, do regular live cd tests, test in special enviorements. They just need to be coordinated. Ubuntu have made one step closer to this with it's nice Launchpad bug system (yes, it is nice comparing to Bugzilla, imho:)), but it needs to be improved.
So, yes, I think biggest improvement would be coordinated information effort about what works and what's not.
You forgot users: 1. Which computers are put into crawl mode when they try to work with more than three videos; 2. Which OSes doesn't support Flash (and I don't talk about Linux only); 3. See Flash movies and cries, what a hell, it is a joke?
Flash is overrated, get over it. Users use just what websites offer to them. They don't distinguish what is Flash and what is embedded video.
First thing I get after fresh install of Firefox is FlashBlock. And I tried to tolerate it for very long time.
And it's a pitty that you waste your time on Windows. Embedded videos works perfectly on my Ubuntus, using Totem + Gstreamer + ffmpeg libs. Everything just works.
I really just curious, have any reference to back up that claim? It is really interesting. However, that means that ODF marketshare is OO.o + Google Docs + Mac OS X (Text Editor supports ODF by default).
Slashdot Mirror
Two things are very common for slashdot last two months - too much "ohhh how good Windows 7 will be" articles (clearly a organized propaganda using clueless Slashdot editors, but hey, it brings ads money in) and clearly too much "look, look, another *suspicious* persona appointed by eeeeeeeeevil Obama. He is eeeeevil. He is just like rest of politicians. They all are evil manipulative bastards".
Yes, Obama is not Jesus or not perfect president either. Gosh. But he is best what we can have now. So far I have heard only speculative things about him. All his cabinet is gone trough something like fiveteen times, looking for everyone's smallest mistake. Wow, why you didn't give such hard ticket to Bush? Ohh, because he didn't care. Now we found someone who does and let's make him hard time.
Isn't that funny when people hype something too much and then lay their anger and confusion when something doesn't go according to their plan? And for paranoia that everything is controled by coorporations and power peole, see "Syriana". We would like to thing that there is some huge in control, because then we could better justify why we are powerless. Because "other people are simply stupid or I am just too paranoid and no one listens to me" doesn't fly anymore.
Grow up.
And about Microsoft - already said, Microsoft is geeks 'female fatale' - no matter how it has screwed them over, they keep crawling back.
You invest in technology = you gamble; Main producer of technology decide to drop it = you loose;
Where is that point you getting angry? It was your decision to build upon commercial, closed source. Deal with that.
It is safe to say "DNSSEC suks" in Slashdot and get "Insightful" mod, because, hey, there are many tinydns admins out there :)
If more serious, DNSSEC has valid criticisms, but this post just reeks flaming.
Exactly. SimCopter is abadonware and SimCity is only serious sim we can talk about. Microsoft left Flight Simulator for good and there hasn't been other kind of sims for years.
Let's be honest - sims are very hard to do, and very hard to balanse and make it fun (read Will Wright and team about Simcity 3000/4000 and how hard it was to make it rock).
Yeah, such companies are really into such sims. Wait...they are more willing to crunch out dysopian shooters than any real life sim. Where is my copter sim? Where is living city sim? Ahhh right, they are hard to do, expensive, and doesn't pay back so well as dump shooters.
Actually SimFarmer would make huge sense for small kids to learn about how food gets to the supermarket.
Seconded - real practice of commercial Linux apps shows that it is not that hard. Usually it is SDL sound layer with ALSA hooks (and SDL was created by professional commercial game porters with open source in mind) - but SDL can also connect with other stuff, esound for example. If you need something advanced in the game - position, etc. you can take a look on OpenAL stuff (which is commercially created open standard taking a page from OpenGL book), lot of ID games uses this. For higher layer - yes, PulseAudio takes over distros these days - but it has nice ALSA emulation layer which improves day after day (yeah, there are some glitches but I think Lenart will handle this). If you need additional internal processing - Gstreamer comes to rescue with highly standardized interfaces and regular support for your codecs.
There are three, four tops libs which are aviable everywhere - and that's what devs them. And they each excel at what they do.
Yes, I was referring to Vendetta Online. And I just wanted to say that it is *fun*, not *funny* :)
VO rocks, no doubt of that.
Ohh my God, another "Linux architecture is hard, therefore vendors have problems" apologist.
Listen, CCP was never hiding behind a fact that so called "Linux client" is just a Windows client with Wine wrapper. And frankly, with Wine or Crossover Games you would have more success than Transgaming (which from mine point of view is completely shite). Transgaming based client has hard time with ATI video cards, with exsotic sound card settings, etc. Of course you can tweak it, but what's the point then? They have nice forum where people already exchanging with ideas how to get EVE running on Linux.
There are one space sim (rather funny one), which has real *native* client. NEVER had problems with that, even on open source ati drivers on Radeons. So propably it is not that hard to do that...natively.
Ohh, memories :)
Those screenshots and mentioned features really shows very rapid progress free desktop (GNOME, KDE and standalone apps) have achieved these 8 years (from KDE 2/GNOME 1.4 ugly-as-butt-but-functional to KDE 4.2/GNOME 2.2x ohh-shiny-and-my-tv-card-is-working). Yes, there are still issues, there are problems, but progress is deniable and imho only Mac OS X can fight with feature set offered by free desktop.
Ok, yes, apps does matter and market share and knowhow too, but still...this is indication that free desktop is here to stay and won't go anywhere but forward.
And btw, yes. Mandrake ruled the day back then. First distro which took users (no matter expierenced or newbies) *seriously* (nice looking themes, icons, serious localization, superb packaging - you name it). And it is still very hugely used in Europe and they are profitable company (escaped from bankrupt once), as far as I have heard. Shuttleworth definitely would say that Mandrake was inspiration for Ubuntu.
Yeah, and it is not possible to relicense it, and it really does matter when porting it to Windows. Please do your GPLv3 propaganda somewhere else.
...is all what's needed. Why dublicate efforts? Even more when both Qt and GTK+ is nicely running in Windows environment (KDE4 is even ported to Win32).
Sorry, but what I have read in Internet in last few weeks, it all smells like so well orchestrated hype and geeks, who are usually so smart to point out what's wrong with Linux, suddenly are ready to pass over the fact that Windows 7 is just marketing ploy to try to sell Vista.
And I am usually very careful with words, because yes, I agree, everyone uses what suits them best and what they know. And yes, saying "Windows sux0rs, Linux ftw!" is totally wrong way to spread the world of positive effects of using free desktop. But it is hard not to see overhyping done to Windows 7 in last month. I have even coined a say - Microsoft is geek's 'female fatale'. It will screw you over, act arrogantly, even will pose to leave you, but geeks will love it anyway. Like bunch of children. Maybe it is time to start to act like grownups.
p.s. it is not that Apple and Linux have such geeks, but at least they are fewer of them. And in Linux, if I see problem, I will care to fix it as developer and tester - because I care about it.
....
-Imagination Technologies: happy as they overburdened-with-IP-licenses tech are used almost everywhere and everyone pays for the hit, because there aren't competition, even from Intel itself
It is undocumented and it has binary blob. Though scenario, even for very smart Xorg driver fellas.
I think it is more about the lines of "omg, there is new sublaptop market here, quick, we need solution. Damn, our video chip uses too much power. Ok, there is some niche chip which could suit us. But there is lot of NDA and proprietary stuff. Heck, let's ride with it and see if it sticks. If not, we will abandon a driver."
It is clearly a totally different video card with different chip (which have closed parts not developed by Intel). So it ends there where usually such drivers goes - to trash can.
1) Microsoft biggest numbers comes from forced OEM deals. Of course it will sell well, no matter they will do. Question is - will enterprises will buy into it. I guess not;
2) Apple copies others stuff, but they do very nice integration. I am no Apple fanboi, I have seen OS X ugly side. But for common users it is much more "good enough" than Windows. Comparing to that - Microsoft copied translucent windows and graphics bang - ok, it is never hurt to OS to look pretty. But in same time destroy everything you have done right so far...Why? Apple rarely does it, they somehow know what is done right;
3) Last sentence about 'female fatale' was meant about that IT geeks are easily swung into another marketing hype from Microsoft. For example, I use Ubuntu Linux and know it's many weaknesess, but I don't hype it to others. I say honestly what I think about it and why I use it and what I think about it shortcomings. All I hear from geeks now is "Wow, it works, it is a slightly better than Vista, so everyone must upgrade to it." Gah. Nonsense;
And common crowd is other matter. They of course will use what you will give them and help them to set up and work with.
Windows 7 is Microsoft attempt out of sheer despair to get something sellable out of Vista codebase. But still it falls in almost the same traps. Yes, I have used both. Sorry, but it is just trying each time harder to replicate OS X success formula, not trying to go their own, unique way. It indicates lack of vision in MS. In same time stuff like Control Panel is screwed beyond recognition.
I already joked to my Twitter friends that Microsoft is IT guys 'female fatale' - it fucks up your life anytime you encounter her, but still people are so devoted to her. Geeks, you need get love somewhere else :)
Let's be more precise - people's unavailability and lack of education about how to deal with frustration (practical psychology), also respect to other people. Or even shorter - "learn how to enjoy losing". It doesn't make you a loser, but it will help you don't lose a cool and temper when something goes the way you haven't intended.
I had to learn it, because I hated to lose when I was teenager. Even when playing card games.
1) No, Novell has huge money reserves. It is not huge indication of survival, but they did minimization of expenses year ago, so it could be their chance to actually improve their performance. Of course, people would vote them just because their "Microsoftised" Linux. Sorry guys, it ain't gonna happen; 2) NetApp - maybe, don't have lot of actual products to offer; 3) Checkpoint - lot of cash, have actual products, which is highly valuated; 4) McAfee - wet dreams, but no 5) Salesforce.com - huge posibility 6) No for AMD and CA, Juniper could be bought by Cisco or someone bigger 7) Sun - sorry, this is not "I-hate-them-and-they-should-go-away" list :) Maybe Sun isn't perfect, but again, as Novell, they went trough forced restruct and I don't think that this crisis will make them disappear.
8) Citrix could have be gone to the way of Dodo already some time ago, but they seemingly still have to offer something. Also if there are lot of thin client businesses open up as an answer to cutting expenses of IT dep, they could have a chance;
9) Symantec - again, like it or not, antivirus will still be sold in huge numbers and still user boxes will be happy-slacky zombies;
10) VMware - will be bought by someone. Xen and KVM eats it's breakfast;
So one could be big posibility to go down, two or three could be bought, and rest of others will just lay off huge numbers and will be more or less fine.
Sorry, but "virtual" or "real" Zionists have nothing to do with current situation. Hamas has aim to destroy Israel. You can spin it as you want, but it is a fact. They don't hide it even now. If someone would threaten to destroy my country just because some saint book tells me so, sorry, no dice.
War is always wrong, but so far I understand jews much better than palestinians.
Because countries of North America were founded by opportunistic and "looking-for-luck" people? Smart people were to clever to go there first :)
Jokes aside, North America always have some "me me me" and "it is all about me, screw others" atittude a little bit. Of course, there is lot of found and good people (and I believe they form majority), but they somehow ignore those egoists till they start to dance over them.
Just my humble thoughts,
Peter.
Linux need really up-to-date hardware database (how it's working, why not it's not working, issues) and testing labs. Yes, you can never test all kind of hardware while developing distro, but at least you can try to get some stuff working 100%. Otherwise it is kinda stupid when Intel wifi chipsets have open source drivers, but they don't work on Ubuntu Intrepid just because it broke somewhere near the end of development cycle.
I see testing labs like coordinated effort from main distros. It could be started by Ubuntu, or Fedora and then joined by others. Idea is simple - there are lot of geeks and powerusers who use Linux regularly and they would be glad to help - run specially developed tests, do regular live cd tests, test in special enviorements. They just need to be coordinated. Ubuntu have made one step closer to this with it's nice Launchpad bug system (yes, it is nice comparing to Bugzilla, imho :)), but it needs to be improved.
So, yes, I think biggest improvement would be coordinated information effort about what works and what's not.
But so far talk has been really cheap and code rules the day.
Even so, all mentioned suggestions somehow indicates that writer sadly, but doesn't know what he is talking about.
You forgot users:
1. Which computers are put into crawl mode when they try to work with more than three videos;
2. Which OSes doesn't support Flash (and I don't talk about Linux only);
3. See Flash movies and cries, what a hell, it is a joke?
Flash is overrated, get over it. Users use just what websites offer to them. They don't distinguish what is Flash and what is embedded video.
First thing I get after fresh install of Firefox is FlashBlock. And I tried to tolerate it for very long time.
And it's a pitty that you waste your time on Windows. Embedded videos works perfectly on my Ubuntus, using Totem + Gstreamer + ffmpeg libs. Everything just works.
> Open Office just got passed up by Google Docs
I really just curious, have any reference to back up that claim? It is really interesting. However, that means that ODF marketshare is OO.o + Google Docs + Mac OS X (Text Editor supports ODF by default).