Should, but in reality it is what happens, unfortunately. Such behaviour is similar to "landmine field" scenario. People for example know that they should *understand* when to change speed, when accelerate and when break. However, I know ton of people who only know how to drive in the streets of their town, because they know *exact* steps to do so. They are afraid to make mistakes on big roads, make mistakes even in unknown, but unpopulated area, so they avoid them.
People are afraid to think. Because thinking leads to living your own life, and living your own life leads to understanding that you are in charge of it. And when you are charge of it, you make mistake, you do it yourself. It is reason why lot of people does stupid thing (like not going to doctors, for example) en masse, when others does it too. It is easier to *mimic* stuff which "works" than act on instinct and thinking. Monkeys do it all the time:)
And ohh, yes, education is nothing to do with that. There are academical "mimics" too.
I don't think it is "nuthin", it is important news. They got stuff running, so they can go to next step - colliding particles - which will happen right away in this month - probably in next two weeks.
Anyway, this is exciting for a geek. From technical details to physics itself. Much better than Google Chrome news.
Sure, move city which was standing here for some...well, 200 - 300 years? And probably this citation from Wikipedia article about city won't hurt: The city is named after Philippe II, Duc d'Orléans, Regent of France, and is one of the oldest cities in the United States. It is well known for its multicultural and multilingual heritage, cuisine, architecture, music (particularly as the birthplace of jazz), and its annual Mardi Gras and other celebrations and festivals. The city is often referred to as the "most unique" city in America.
It is like asking Los Angeles to move just because it stands in the place where earthquakes are very strong and frequent guests. Duh. And they even don't have such early warning as Neworleans do.
What about finally dealing with levee's system which description doesn't include words 'might not work when class four storm hits the city'? Wow, you need money for that. No no no, money for war in Iraq, money for creating no working 'No fly'list, money for spying on citizens while not knowing why actually you have to do that.
It is pathetic. US is great country (without any pathos or irony, I really have big respect), but somehow it's government manages to avoid solving real problems and instead actively creates imaginary ones. Probably because when you have to deal with real problem, you have to act. There is no PR for you to help, there is no back offs possible. You have to ride it trough. You have to plan action plan and backup plan before disaster strikes.
I really just curious - do feds or anyone from government did their work _after_ Katrina? Or it was like - ohh, shit happened, my bad - and life moved on and no one prepared for "second coming"?
I hope Gustav will pass easy. That is shame that so beautiful city have to struggle to survive again in such short time.
Setting aside obvious reasons why corporate hats would hate anything they don't dig (tip: it is matter of control. Yes, they want to have possibility to fire you any moment without hesitation), Perl is powerful, but really hard language. Specially when it is written in hurry to complete some task. Without any shred of doc or help it is almost impossible to maintain for thirty party.
Also, in broader picture, it is common problem with IT everywhere - nondocumented stuff which does system critical stuff is big no no. I know, lot of people see it as job security, but it is the same variation as terrorist has job security when it has hostages.
If you want real job security, do your job properly, and you will get rewarded. And if there will be firings, they will happen in any case.
Well, I can see what you mean, but there are two things - this is not such scenario (Linux have Flash player for ages, ok, it stopped to suck about two three years ago:)), and impact of such scenario is way too much overrated. It is not about how much windows managers you CAN install, it is what you have on your brebundled or admin installed box. That's it. Yes, most of people see computer as VHS player. Put cassette, play, forward, backward, eject, done. Who cares what firmware it runs.
I fully agree. Linux Adobe Flash player is very up to date in features, so it is not a barrier to entry. Also it is very easy to install to any distro. However, it is slow and crashing. Ok, we can agree that it is general traits of Flash itself, but it doesn't mean that some open source project couldn't show Adobe how to deal with stuff.
There is two versions of Flash decoding libraries, one called Gnash and another called Swfdec. I still wonder why they don't work together, but hey, they are open source and both has kinda different visions how to deal with Flash proprietary stuff. I have tested Swfdec for a while and I can say that Ads surerly works, so do YouTube videos - but not perfectly. I personally think one of them will achieve 90% of all Flash stuff playable in next year or two, so it is kinda very ok. To be honest, Adobe also opened up Flash spec a bit more and as far as I heard both teams are busy implementing stuff from it.
So, in short, it is possible, but it takes time. As it is not pressing problem - there is Adobe Flash player for Linux officialy - so everything progress slowly. But it goes forward.
Every time I install Ubuntu, I just add FlashBlock and I am set. Life is too short to waste my time to Flash enormous appetite for CPU power. For casual user it actually works - just avoid 10 tabs and 5 windows.
Yes, I am waiting for Swfdec and Gnash to knock Adobe out of it's monopoly for Flash player. I would like to both teams come together and try to finish stuff, but it is up to them.
In short version, everyone is afraid of fallout of saying that "Linux Hater simply sucks". Trust me, I read ton of criticism and bug reports EVERY DAY and I know what construstive critism which ACTUALLY HELPS sounds like.
Everyone claiming "Linux Hater is cool" needs to do more real work with bug fixing and code writing. Then his rants doesn't sound nor cool, nor helpful.
For addition to your insightful post, interesting is that most artists who are really succcessful, earn money trough: a) regular pay job - writing songs for hits, events, etc; b) play around - that is where real money lies, because usually everyone wants to see Radiohead, not U2, playing 'No Surprises'; c) making good records - yep, again, Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, etc. other, smaller, acts who don't give a shit about copyright - unless their stuff sells well; d) and let's not talk about very huge line of artists who actually do that for HAPPINESS. Having a nice full job and playing just for fun - what you can ask for me?
Let's be honest, copyright has long gone serving for it's true aims. It has been high horse for arrogant self-fulfilling elite, which is actually full of very dumb dumb people.
Ahh, now I see why they can communicate with politicians - they have lot of common.
What's wrong with having default as enabled? All applications around the world does it and even hides it in advanced install settings. Firefox doing it openly is just OK. Not good, not bad, but just OK.
Stop being so nitpicking. I am no total Firefox fan (have lot of issues in Ubuntu), but this is not a case to bash them.
It is a definition of Ideal Goal, similar term are used by researchers and engineers to invent things. It is ideal how it should be. In fact, deeper analysis of communism during Soviet era had lot of *factual* suggestions how to mix human nature with need of humanity itself (and they were worth try to diggest, ignoring a fact that it comes from Bolshevist regime. Some people really belived in Communism). It is not that simple - nah, it won't work, we are selfish bastards, ye, pour me another drink. In fact, in democracy we have lot to give up too from our selfishness, it works because we know that return will be worth that.
In fact, communism IS possible within our current knowledge about human nature for the same reasons - because in Communism, theoretically, everything would be free, and you would have no need to collect all money you get, all riches you could have, etc. Why, to buy private jet? You could have one. etc. We have lot of free stuff already, we have police, libraries, health care in some countries. It is paid from our taxes, but Communism would work similary.
However, it is *almost* impossible to get there, because it will require bloody actions and lot of people to be substituted to one aim. THIS is a problem, because people simply don't trust to each other out of simple self preservation instinct. It is one of the reasons why stright convert from 18th century Russia to 20th century Soviet Union simply didn't work. People didn't care, because their basic needs where unfulfilled. All they wanted was food and relative security. And after those dramatic and very violent first years (everyone opposing was just shot - no playing easy games here), close target of Communism state was dropped and SU became just a placeholder for Russian national empire, with socialist structure. Yes, they had aim to have Communism everywhere in the world, but let's be real, those dreams were gone soon after 1958, after death of Stalin.
In fact, BEFORE Soviet Union lot of people in Eastern Europe and Russia trully believed that Communism or at least Socialism is answer to unjustice of the world. Bolshevics fucked up it big time. So it is no wonder that it is still very uneasy topic to talk about in this countries, even on internet.
You got me there until poor box office sales: in fact, kids *loved* Phantom Menance and *that* sold movie (race was just worth that). Ohh, your childhood memories are ruined. How pitty. Your problem:)
It was entertaining if you didn't took it too seriously. Obviously, for fans who have imagined their own version of Star Wars that was huge problem.
They are *not* switching to XP. They will offer Windows XP as another choice for buyers. I think it is fine, because those buyers would be off anyway if OLPC would offer only Linux+Sugar. Ok, you can speculate that it is half-step to be Windows only, but so far I have seen no indication of this. And I read stuff about OLPC/XO much much more.
I don't like Microsoft and I don't trust them as almost everyone else in open source community. And I don't like NN haotic emotional behaviour, because indication that they could not sale XOs to lot of countries was because of sucky sales department. In fact, there was no such at all.
However, I think it is much much better than going fully Windows, which was posibility some time ago. This will force OLPC to be better at deployement, and maybe buyers who will choose Sugar will benefit from that.
Yeah, lot of people will be pissed and rightly so. But they can switch their efforts on supporting Sugar (checkout www.sugarlabs.org), which I think is the biggest bone, implemented rightfully. And XO type machines market is growing right now. If Sugar will achieve good stability and support from community within a year, it will be huge win for all of us.
So it's Linux/open source/free software problem now?:)
Come on, commercial apps have released statically compiled versions as fallback for almost 2 years (Skype as example). Lot of games don't care about what distro or desktop you use (well, ok, GNOME or KDE is pref.), they just detect that 3D is available, and then run.
And ohh, it is not that hard to create rpm and deb packages. There are even companies who will do it for your app for not such big cost.
And user can even run app trough Wine. In fact, I don't have a user with Ubuntu and no Wine. Just double click and run install. Mostly works. Some days ago I installed MSO 2003 without modifying or configuring Wine. It just worked. (ok. Access don't work still and that's pity. However I plan to work on this because I don't see so difficult to deal with).
Ok, it is too simple of course, but I wholeheartedly I agree with your parent post. Everything is made difficult by fact that PHB are usually very incompetent in dealing with IT systems, and yet, they wanna a) dictate which product to use (as they have better "friendship" with salesman who pimps up lastest Microsoft solution than with technician which usually lacks good communication skills and which is smarter, therefore untrusted by leadership. Strangely, but it is how human mind works) and b) implement on their vision. Usually both of these points heavily conflict between each other.
So, again, I agree with parent - in such situation if I see no benefit with dealing with such company, I drop it. Life is too short and there are lot of other potential good companies, who really trust judgment of mine and are ready to say what they want and listen what offers I have.
And let's not forget - did good, open source and free software can really make your business fly. If someone don't get it after several good and clever presentations - well, their call.
Because it doesn't matter anymore for them. They hate it, but they understand that they will be forced to use it anyway, so they don't give you any hints.
You should try to study a user's psychology more.
And yes, calling "Ribbon" a evolution is a big strech. It is just a step in very very wrong direction.
p.s. I had to use Defrag tool wich uses Ribbon style interface now too. Talk about wasting time to find SIMPLE FUNCTION in that mess.
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Should, but in reality it is what happens, unfortunately. Such behaviour is similar to "landmine field" scenario. People for example know that they should *understand* when to change speed, when accelerate and when break. However, I know ton of people who only know how to drive in the streets of their town, because they know *exact* steps to do so. They are afraid to make mistakes on big roads, make mistakes even in unknown, but unpopulated area, so they avoid them.
People are afraid to think. Because thinking leads to living your own life, and living your own life leads to understanding that you are in charge of it. And when you are charge of it, you make mistake, you do it yourself. It is reason why lot of people does stupid thing (like not going to doctors, for example) en masse, when others does it too. It is easier to *mimic* stuff which "works" than act on instinct and thinking. Monkeys do it all the time :)
And ohh, yes, education is nothing to do with that. There are academical "mimics" too.
Paranoia modded up as insightful - yeah, what I'm talking about, this is Slashdot. Seemingly lacking touch with "real life" (tm).
I don't think it is "nuthin", it is important news. They got stuff running, so they can go to next step - colliding particles - which will happen right away in this month - probably in next two weeks.
Anyway, this is exciting for a geek. From technical details to physics itself. Much better than Google Chrome news.
Usually I don't reply to answers of my post, but this is good laugh :) Great joke in such desperate time.
Sure, move city which was standing here for some...well, 200 - 300 years? And probably this citation from Wikipedia article about city won't hurt:
The city is named after Philippe II, Duc d'Orléans, Regent of France, and is one of the oldest cities in the United States. It is well known for its multicultural and multilingual heritage, cuisine, architecture, music (particularly as the birthplace of jazz), and its annual Mardi Gras and other celebrations and festivals. The city is often referred to as the "most unique" city in America.
It is like asking Los Angeles to move just because it stands in the place where earthquakes are very strong and frequent guests. Duh. And they even don't have such early warning as Neworleans do.
What about finally dealing with levee's system which description doesn't include words 'might not work when class four storm hits the city'? Wow, you need money for that. No no no, money for war in Iraq, money for creating no working 'No fly'list, money for spying on citizens while not knowing why actually you have to do that.
It is pathetic. US is great country (without any pathos or irony, I really have big respect), but somehow it's government manages to avoid solving real problems and instead actively creates imaginary ones. Probably because when you have to deal with real problem, you have to act. There is no PR for you to help, there is no back offs possible. You have to ride it trough. You have to plan action plan and backup plan before disaster strikes.
I really just curious - do feds or anyone from government did their work _after_ Katrina? Or it was like - ohh, shit happened, my bad - and life moved on and no one prepared for "second coming"?
I hope Gustav will pass easy. That is shame that so beautiful city have to struggle to survive again in such short time.
Setting aside obvious reasons why corporate hats would hate anything they don't dig (tip: it is matter of control. Yes, they want to have possibility to fire you any moment without hesitation), Perl is powerful, but really hard language. Specially when it is written in hurry to complete some task. Without any shred of doc or help it is almost impossible to maintain for thirty party.
Also, in broader picture, it is common problem with IT everywhere - nondocumented stuff which does system critical stuff is big no no. I know, lot of people see it as job security, but it is the same variation as terrorist has job security when it has hostages.
If you want real job security, do your job properly, and you will get rewarded. And if there will be firings, they will happen in any case.
Well, I can see what you mean, but there are two things - this is not such scenario (Linux have Flash player for ages, ok, it stopped to suck about two three years ago :)), and impact of such scenario is way too much overrated. It is not about how much windows managers you CAN install, it is what you have on your brebundled or admin installed box. That's it. Yes, most of people see computer as VHS player. Put cassette, play, forward, backward, eject, done. Who cares what firmware it runs.
I fully agree. Linux Adobe Flash player is very up to date in features, so it is not a barrier to entry. Also it is very easy to install to any distro. However, it is slow and crashing. Ok, we can agree that it is general traits of Flash itself, but it doesn't mean that some open source project couldn't show Adobe how to deal with stuff.
There is two versions of Flash decoding libraries, one called Gnash and another called Swfdec. I still wonder why they don't work together, but hey, they are open source and both has kinda different visions how to deal with Flash proprietary stuff. I have tested Swfdec for a while and I can say that Ads surerly works, so do YouTube videos - but not perfectly. I personally think one of them will achieve 90% of all Flash stuff playable in next year or two, so it is kinda very ok. To be honest, Adobe also opened up Flash spec a bit more and as far as I heard both teams are busy implementing stuff from it.
So, in short, it is possible, but it takes time. As it is not pressing problem - there is Adobe Flash player for Linux officialy - so everything progress slowly. But it goes forward.
Every time I install Ubuntu, I just add FlashBlock and I am set. Life is too short to waste my time to Flash enormous appetite for CPU power. For casual user it actually works - just avoid 10 tabs and 5 windows. Yes, I am waiting for Swfdec and Gnash to knock Adobe out of it's monopoly for Flash player. I would like to both teams come together and try to finish stuff, but it is up to them.
...comparing to taking innocent people's lifes. Even if they are your family. Especially if it is your family.
In short version, everyone is afraid of fallout of saying that "Linux Hater simply sucks". Trust me, I read ton of criticism and bug reports EVERY DAY and I know what construstive critism which ACTUALLY HELPS sounds like.
Everyone claiming "Linux Hater is cool" needs to do more real work with bug fixing and code writing. Then his rants doesn't sound nor cool, nor helpful.
For addition to your insightful post, interesting is that most artists who are really succcessful, earn money trough:
a) regular pay job - writing songs for hits, events, etc;
b) play around - that is where real money lies, because usually everyone wants to see Radiohead, not U2, playing 'No Surprises';
c) making good records - yep, again, Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, etc. other, smaller, acts who don't give a shit about copyright - unless their stuff sells well;
d) and let's not talk about very huge line of artists who actually do that for HAPPINESS. Having a nice full job and playing just for fun - what you can ask for me?
Let's be honest, copyright has long gone serving for it's true aims. It has been high horse for arrogant self-fulfilling elite, which is actually full of very dumb dumb people.
Ahh, now I see why they can communicate with politicians - they have lot of common.
...and for business there is lot of enterprise licenses from Microsoft. Would work if they would start to offer it as part of their OEM programms.
But it gives fuzzy warm feeling inside for company board, lawyers and shareholders. It is all about "feelin good".
DRM and copy protection has never have been backed up with real, hard numbers. And they never will be. Because it's not reason of their existence.
What's wrong with having default as enabled? All applications around the world does it and even hides it in advanced install settings. Firefox doing it openly is just OK. Not good, not bad, but just OK.
Stop being so nitpicking. I am no total Firefox fan (have lot of issues in Ubuntu), but this is not a case to bash them.
Nope, Communism isn't bad that way.
It is a definition of Ideal Goal, similar term are used by researchers and engineers to invent things. It is ideal how it should be. In fact, deeper analysis of communism during Soviet era had lot of *factual* suggestions how to mix human nature with need of humanity itself (and they were worth try to diggest, ignoring a fact that it comes from Bolshevist regime. Some people really belived in Communism). It is not that simple - nah, it won't work, we are selfish bastards, ye, pour me another drink. In fact, in democracy we have lot to give up too from our selfishness, it works because we know that return will be worth that.
In fact, communism IS possible within our current knowledge about human nature for the same reasons - because in Communism, theoretically, everything would be free, and you would have no need to collect all money you get, all riches you could have, etc. Why, to buy private jet? You could have one. etc. We have lot of free stuff already, we have police, libraries, health care in some countries. It is paid from our taxes, but Communism would work similary.
However, it is *almost* impossible to get there, because it will require bloody actions and lot of people to be substituted to one aim. THIS is a problem, because people simply don't trust to each other out of simple self preservation instinct. It is one of the reasons why stright convert from 18th century Russia to 20th century Soviet Union simply didn't work. People didn't care, because their basic needs where unfulfilled. All they wanted was food and relative security. And after those dramatic and very violent first years (everyone opposing was just shot - no playing easy games here), close target of Communism state was dropped and SU became just a placeholder for Russian national empire, with socialist structure. Yes, they had aim to have Communism everywhere in the world, but let's be real, those dreams were gone soon after 1958, after death of Stalin.
In fact, BEFORE Soviet Union lot of people in Eastern Europe and Russia trully believed that Communism or at least Socialism is answer to unjustice of the world. Bolshevics fucked up it big time. So it is no wonder that it is still very uneasy topic to talk about in this countries, even on internet.
You got me there until poor box office sales: in fact, kids *loved* Phantom Menance and *that* sold movie (race was just worth that). Ohh, your childhood memories are ruined. How pitty. Your problem :)
It was entertaining if you didn't took it too seriously. Obviously, for fans who have imagined their own version of Star Wars that was huge problem.
They are *not* switching to XP. They will offer Windows XP as another choice for buyers. I think it is fine, because those buyers would be off anyway if OLPC would offer only Linux+Sugar. Ok, you can speculate that it is half-step to be Windows only, but so far I have seen no indication of this. And I read stuff about OLPC/XO much much more.
I don't like Microsoft and I don't trust them as almost everyone else in open source community. And I don't like NN haotic emotional behaviour, because indication that they could not sale XOs to lot of countries was because of sucky sales department. In fact, there was no such at all.
However, I think it is much much better than going fully Windows, which was posibility some time ago. This will force OLPC to be better at deployement, and maybe buyers who will choose Sugar will benefit from that.
Yeah, lot of people will be pissed and rightly so. But they can switch their efforts on supporting Sugar (checkout www.sugarlabs.org), which I think is the biggest bone, implemented rightfully. And XO type machines market is growing right now. If Sugar will achieve good stability and support from community within a year, it will be huge win for all of us.
Then you haven't seen lot of newest applications. Other developers already mimic that. And I have used Office Vista too.
So it's Linux/open source/free software problem now? :)
Come on, commercial apps have released statically compiled versions as fallback for almost 2 years (Skype as example). Lot of games don't care about what distro or desktop you use (well, ok, GNOME or KDE is pref.), they just detect that 3D is available, and then run.
And ohh, it is not that hard to create rpm and deb packages. There are even companies who will do it for your app for not such big cost.
And user can even run app trough Wine. In fact, I don't have a user with Ubuntu and no Wine. Just double click and run install. Mostly works. Some days ago I installed MSO 2003 without modifying or configuring Wine. It just worked. (ok. Access don't work still and that's pity. However I plan to work on this because I don't see so difficult to deal with).
Difference is in papers and wage.
Ok, it is too simple of course, but I wholeheartedly I agree with your parent post. Everything is made difficult by fact that PHB are usually very incompetent in dealing with IT systems, and yet, they wanna a) dictate which product to use (as they have better "friendship" with salesman who pimps up lastest Microsoft solution than with technician which usually lacks good communication skills and which is smarter, therefore untrusted by leadership. Strangely, but it is how human mind works) and b) implement on their vision. Usually both of these points heavily conflict between each other.
So, again, I agree with parent - in such situation if I see no benefit with dealing with such company, I drop it. Life is too short and there are lot of other potential good companies, who really trust judgment of mine and are ready to say what they want and listen what offers I have.
And let's not forget - did good, open source and free software can really make your business fly. If someone don't get it after several good and clever presentations - well, their call.
laptops it is?
:)
I mean, seriously
Who they want to fool?
Because it doesn't matter anymore for them. They hate it, but they understand that they will be forced to use it anyway, so they don't give you any hints.
You should try to study a user's psychology more.
And yes, calling "Ribbon" a evolution is a big strech. It is just a step in very very wrong direction.
p.s. I had to use Defrag tool wich uses Ribbon style interface now too. Talk about wasting time to find SIMPLE FUNCTION in that mess.