While I agree, "just following orders" is a bullshit response only used by fucktards, I don't think that was the intent of their post. Ultimately their entire point was the last sentence:
If following the rules leads to this sort of incident, then the rules are bad and need to be changed. Simple as that.
And really, I'm sure you'd agree with that idea. There are better ways of dealing with security. Other countries have been doing it for years. Why can't we follow those examples?
"Just doing their job" is a bullshit response. I don't care what your fucking job is. Use a little common sense. If it seems like a bad idea and you know you will feel bad for doing it, don't fucking do it.
Simple answer: Because it's Microsoft. They often do things that don't make a lot of fiscal sense; they've been known to do things that don't make sense from a security stand-point. Do you really expect them to do something that made sense here?
People from all over the world seem to play nicely with putting their names on documents exactly the same way every time and having birthdays that match up. I'm sorry, but if you can't play along with the rest of the world and have all of your legal documents use the same birthday, you can rightly fuck off. People will do anything to be different. Really, it's quite simple to follow this rule. What does your ID say? Use that information. Problem solved.
In order to have console-style multiplayer games, you need a monitor big enough for two to four people to fit around. I'm told the only kind of monitor like that is a living room HDTV.
Games on consoles are starting to do away with the local mutiplayer features. I can't fathom why, at least for two people, but I guess they'd rather not spend the time to implement it for such a low number that would actually use it. I doubt this feature will go away entirely, but it is dwindling. If you use your console primarily as a party system, yeah, I can see this being a deal breaker for you on the PC as not everyone has a decent sized monitor.
Even under your definition, far fewer PC games are exclusive to Mac OS X than are exclusive to Windows.
Exclusivity is a bit irrelevant overall. Any game that's that good and isn't made by Nintendo will probably end up on a PC platform of some sort. While that's not 100% true, it normally happens. Hell, even indies are starting to strongly consider a PC only route due to having more control with a lot of key factors.
Right now, no, but the signs are there that it's starting. This was bound to happen sooner or later due to increased complexity in games and what the OS on the hardware wants to do. While I suspect the consoles may hold some advantages over PC indefinitely, the number of advantages is shrinking and will continue to do so with the way things are going.
As far as headaches with a PC go, I just very rarely ever have them unless it's a hardware issue, which consoles suffer from too. I typically don't need to manually tweak this setting, or manually go out and find a certain software package that needs installed. Things just work most of the time.
The last time I had crashes on my PC, I had an issue with defective RAM. I sent it back to the manufacturer under warranty. Problem solved. I just don't have games crashing on me.
As far "headaches" that are comparable to what you deal with on a PC, I picked a recent AAA title and this is the first result I got in a search. The point is, even some people have headaches with consoles. And really, similar issues tend to happen with games on consoles, where they don't work, or you need to download the patch on launch day to play the game.
Consoles are only marginally better these days for a few things. Their ease of use is dwindling. The "it always works" argument isn't true. The split-screen multiplayer aspects are being used less often in newer games. With the next generation there's a good chance there's little point to reselling your games. Consoles are more and more trying to be like a PC in regards to potential headaches. It's definitely a backwards step.
Looking at your points closely, only numbers 1, 4, and 5 are actually the only relevant ones in a sense, "this is why a console is better for me".
Point #2 - No one said you had to have a PC in your living room.
Point #3 - A Mac is a PC, arbitrarily defining a Mac as not a PC doesn't count.
Point #6 - I'm not even sure what point you were trying to make.
Point #7 - See above.
Point #8 - Who cares?
While this may be true with the Wii (as in I haven't really looked into it, ever), have you forgotten about the issues other consoles have had with games, where it works on some consoles but not others of the same type?
It's clear you did the right thing as an educator. I hope you continue to do these things to the best of your abilities. Students love it when you teach them the easier way of doing things - it leads to a better understanding of the material.
Why would you post a link to ONE picture where you need to be logged in to view? I realize my comment is off-topic, but when you're having a public discussion and you're trying to use examples to back up your points so they're more clear, I can't help but wonder why you would choose an example behind a wall that we have to now get over.
The jet carried a student pilot in the front seat and an experienced instructor behind him, and the dumping of jet fuel was "one of the indications that there was a mechanical malfunction," Navy Capt. Mark Weisgerber told reporters.
The article indicates possible mechanical failure from eye witness accounts. This just happened today, so it will be sometime before an official report is.
See, this points out a lot of problems. Perhaps I am just a dreamer. I realize that due to the nature of people shit happens that I, nor you, nor anyone else will necessarily agree with. People will find all sorts of reasons to justify their actions or another persons actions.
How Sony treats its consumers is disgusting. I also think in the hacking scenario they got what they deserved, but I don't agree with the hacking either. It was just desserts, but in the end it probably won't change how Sony does business. If everyone would just stop buying Sony products, they as a company wont exist anymore and that would be far more fulfilling to see than some hacking that causes them and their uses some grief.
In the end, I think all the hacking did was poke a hornet's nest. It won't change anything Sony does. Hacking China's websites won't change how they operate either. In both of these cases, did Sony or China even get the message that was trying to be sent to them? Do they even care about the message?
This is where you and I disagree. I'm not even looking at this from a "legal" vs "illegal" perspective. Generally speaking, I do not believe website tagging is okay under any circumstances, even when doing this to people, institutions, or countries I may not be fond of. If the people of China do not like the censorship, they need to change the ruling class's minds one way or another.
While this is true, if you couldn't tell that what toetagger said was a joke, there's little hope for you. The obviousness of it should smack you in the face.
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Otherwise just forget the whole fucking thing.
Sounds like an excellent plan. When can we start?
While I agree, "just following orders" is a bullshit response only used by fucktards, I don't think that was the intent of their post. Ultimately their entire point was the last sentence:
If following the rules leads to this sort of incident, then the rules are bad and need to be changed. Simple as that.
And really, I'm sure you'd agree with that idea. There are better ways of dealing with security. Other countries have been doing it for years. Why can't we follow those examples?
"Just doing their job" is a bullshit response. I don't care what your fucking job is. Use a little common sense. If it seems like a bad idea and you know you will feel bad for doing it, don't fucking do it.
Simple answer: Because it's Microsoft. They often do things that don't make a lot of fiscal sense; they've been known to do things that don't make sense from a security stand-point. Do you really expect them to do something that made sense here?
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People from all over the world seem to play nicely with putting their names on documents exactly the same way every time and having birthdays that match up. I'm sorry, but if you can't play along with the rest of the world and have all of your legal documents use the same birthday, you can rightly fuck off. People will do anything to be different. Really, it's quite simple to follow this rule. What does your ID say? Use that information. Problem solved.
In order to have console-style multiplayer games, you need a monitor big enough for two to four people to fit around. I'm told the only kind of monitor like that is a living room HDTV.
Games on consoles are starting to do away with the local mutiplayer features. I can't fathom why, at least for two people, but I guess they'd rather not spend the time to implement it for such a low number that would actually use it. I doubt this feature will go away entirely, but it is dwindling. If you use your console primarily as a party system, yeah, I can see this being a deal breaker for you on the PC as not everyone has a decent sized monitor.
Even under your definition, far fewer PC games are exclusive to Mac OS X than are exclusive to Windows.
Exclusivity is a bit irrelevant overall. Any game that's that good and isn't made by Nintendo will probably end up on a PC platform of some sort. While that's not 100% true, it normally happens. Hell, even indies are starting to strongly consider a PC only route due to having more control with a lot of key factors.
Right now, no, but the signs are there that it's starting. This was bound to happen sooner or later due to increased complexity in games and what the OS on the hardware wants to do. While I suspect the consoles may hold some advantages over PC indefinitely, the number of advantages is shrinking and will continue to do so with the way things are going.
As far as headaches with a PC go, I just very rarely ever have them unless it's a hardware issue, which consoles suffer from too. I typically don't need to manually tweak this setting, or manually go out and find a certain software package that needs installed. Things just work most of the time.
The last time I had crashes on my PC, I had an issue with defective RAM. I sent it back to the manufacturer under warranty. Problem solved. I just don't have games crashing on me.
Updates on PC's are done automatically too.
As far "headaches" that are comparable to what you deal with on a PC, I picked a recent AAA title and this is the first result I got in a search. The point is, even some people have headaches with consoles. And really, similar issues tend to happen with games on consoles, where they don't work, or you need to download the patch on launch day to play the game.
Consoles are only marginally better these days for a few things. Their ease of use is dwindling. The "it always works" argument isn't true. The split-screen multiplayer aspects are being used less often in newer games. With the next generation there's a good chance there's little point to reselling your games. Consoles are more and more trying to be like a PC in regards to potential headaches. It's definitely a backwards step.
Because you never need to install updates on a console and reboot it either, or deal with the headaches of games not working properly.
Looking at your points closely, only numbers 1, 4, and 5 are actually the only relevant ones in a sense, "this is why a console is better for me".
Point #2 - No one said you had to have a PC in your living room.
Point #3 - A Mac is a PC, arbitrarily defining a Mac as not a PC doesn't count.
Point #6 - I'm not even sure what point you were trying to make.
Point #7 - See above.
Point #8 - Who cares?
While this may be true with the Wii (as in I haven't really looked into it, ever), have you forgotten about the issues other consoles have had with games, where it works on some consoles but not others of the same type?
But earlier you were defending them for "doing their job". You can't have it both ways.
Even then I wonder how they can manage to measure "student achievement" if a correct answer turns out to be "wrong".
It's clear you did the right thing as an educator. I hope you continue to do these things to the best of your abilities. Students love it when you teach them the easier way of doing things - it leads to a better understanding of the material.
Why would you post a link to ONE picture where you need to be logged in to view? I realize my comment is off-topic, but when you're having a public discussion and you're trying to use examples to back up your points so they're more clear, I can't help but wonder why you would choose an example behind a wall that we have to now get over.
If you ARE a Sony employee, WTF is wrong with you???
The same could be said of those who still buy their products.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/03/30/1342219/australian-federal-court-awards-damages-to-artist-for-false-copyright-claim
Re-read your comment. Commercial aircraft can't dump fuel that fast. So why would this indicate that military aircraft couldn't?
Second paragraph of TFA:
The jet carried a student pilot in the front seat and an experienced instructor behind him, and the dumping of jet fuel was "one of the indications that there was a mechanical malfunction," Navy Capt. Mark Weisgerber told reporters.
Emphasis mine.
The article indicates possible mechanical failure from eye witness accounts. This just happened today, so it will be sometime before an official report is.
See, this points out a lot of problems. Perhaps I am just a dreamer. I realize that due to the nature of people shit happens that I, nor you, nor anyone else will necessarily agree with. People will find all sorts of reasons to justify their actions or another persons actions.
How Sony treats its consumers is disgusting. I also think in the hacking scenario they got what they deserved, but I don't agree with the hacking either. It was just desserts, but in the end it probably won't change how Sony does business. If everyone would just stop buying Sony products, they as a company wont exist anymore and that would be far more fulfilling to see than some hacking that causes them and their uses some grief.
In the end, I think all the hacking did was poke a hornet's nest. It won't change anything Sony does. Hacking China's websites won't change how they operate either. In both of these cases, did Sony or China even get the message that was trying to be sent to them? Do they even care about the message?
This is where you and I disagree. I'm not even looking at this from a "legal" vs "illegal" perspective. Generally speaking, I do not believe website tagging is okay under any circumstances, even when doing this to people, institutions, or countries I may not be fond of. If the people of China do not like the censorship, they need to change the ruling class's minds one way or another.
While this is true, if you couldn't tell that what toetagger said was a joke, there's little hope for you. The obviousness of it should smack you in the face.