First, I was in a computer lab and was posting that about 5 minutes before my next class so I wasnt really to much into presentation, that means paragraphs, grammar, spelling, and restraint from the use of profanity.
Second, how about I come kill you or violate your rights in some other way and then when the government come to arrest me Ill just tell them to butt out because it is between you and me and they need to shut up and mind their own buisness.Sound crazy? Yup, but thats exactly what your saying. Governments were made to protect the weak and I cant think of many people much weaker than a child still in its mother's womb.
And I am anti-abortion(HA! maybe you should read my post) and as a member of that group I am in it for the RIGHTS of the unborn child. I have no more arrogance than someone who sees a murder in progress and attempts to stop it. I see abortion as murder.
And as for the parents, if you bothered to read my post then you would know my postion on them and how most people who get abortions(yes I know quite a few) see it as an easy way out of a mistake. Most rationalize it away as just a mistake and many of the girls who I know who have had abortions go into depression after the rationalization wears off and they realize that they murdered their own child.
Third, as for this post being off topic, check out the parent. I saw something that I believed to be untrue and pure propaganda and I felt I had to respond. And I will admit that I responded out of personal arrogance and not wanting the parent to go unchallenged. The fact of the matter is that both comments were offtopic but someone else brought it up and like I said I felt I had to respond.
And I do agree that slashdot would be a nicer place, but I didnt start it(childish sounding I know). So basically, get off your high horse and think about the crap your shoveling.
I am pro-life and it really irks me that you first of all call me anti-choice and second say Im about controling the lives and choices of women. So from here on out Im going to put things into perspective(I did this to my women's studies professor when she made the same mistake) and refer to your movement as ANTI-LIFE. Now Ill take on your other mistake. The anti-life movement tries to make abortion about women's rights. I believe its more about the three persons involved and thats why I am pro-life. The three people are obviously the Mother, the Father, and the Child. ALl there have rights and responsibilities in this and choices in this situation. First the child has the right to live. Some may say that the child is just a featus and there fore is not a person. Studies have proven that babies are concious and have thought processes while still in the womb and that conciousness makes that featus a human being and there for has a right to live. Next lets examine the Father and Mother together. As another poster has already pointed out they descided to have sex(Im not going to examine the issue of rape because I see that as a seperate issue and my beliefs there very slightly in that I believe the rapist should be castrated and be made to pay reparations to the victim and Im not sure where I stand on abortion there). I am not some virginial hermit who has never had sex. Everytime I have sex with a woman I make a concious choice that I am willing to have the child with her and support her monitarily, phyisically, and emotionally through out the pregnancy and examine our options together as to if we want to get married or give the baby up for adoption or share custody in some way. That is the problem with most people and abortion. Abortion is simply a way out of a mistake that distroies a human life. Its not about choice. Both persons have already made the choice by having sex. BTW, I took womans studies because I am a big supporter of women's rights all over the world and I cant stand weak women and it sickens me to see women who let themselves be dominated. Fact of the matter is I saying that all pro-life advocates are against womens rights is just as bad as saying that all pro-choice advocates are against life. It is two sets of people seeing the same very grey issue from two differing view points. I dont personally think abortion needs to be outlawed. I think that sex education and the way sex is looked at in the US needs a reevaluation. Oh, and just for shits and giggles, my women's studies professor and I had a debate on the subject and in the end that was the conclusion we both came to. And just to bring it back on topic, Debian rules because its about many people of differing view points comming together to work on something they all agree is a good thing and finding common grounds and working out disagreements to the betterment of all. That is what made the US great at one time, but now its in decline because everyone is greedy and wants the biggest share of the pie.
You ended up with 3 pythons because of the incompatibilities between the minor versions. This is not debian's fault. Acctually the very fact that you can still install these three pythons and fufill all the dependencies is a tribute to debian. And as for the 2 gccs I doubt that you acctually need both installed and I bet it has something to do with the 2.96 to 3.2 transition that debian unstable went through and debian testing will have to go through. Once testing gets 3.2 set as the default you can remove 2.96 and not have to worry about having 2 gccs around anymore. Dont blame debian for things they have no control over, and realize what a large technical accomplishment it is for a group of VOLUNTEERS to put together such a great OS.
What exactly is scowned? Is it kinda like being stoned except for rocks they use scones? Cause if it is that then I would love to be scowned especially if its those Starbucks ones. I love those.
note garnome. It puts an entire development gnome install in your home directory with all the current libraries. Also, Im not sure where your getting evolator from, but if your running debian testing or stable and trying to pull packages in from unstable or experimental, then this situation will happen with any package you try to pull down. Its the nature of debian and using libraries as opposed to statically linking stuff. Gnome might have a few more dependancies to satisfy but the very fact that its using libraries that are on your system is a good thing because you dont have to pull in 5 different libraries for each program you want to use.
That is why most people use a distribution that has already done this dependancy hunting for you. All I do on my debian machine is apt-get install evoluion or if I want the build dependancies all I do is apt-get build-dep evolution. Also you have garnome for those who wish the cutting edge, and if you want more cutting edge than that, your probably a developer and know where to get all the dependancies and compile them all. So your rant about the lack massive number of dependancies is really just a straw man.
Im sorry, but no you dont. My point was about a minor inconinience. You made it about life and death. There is too big of a difference there and then you made an even bigger mistake by trying to apply my opinion about a minor inconvinience to life and death. That is improper and just wrong to use that to make any point that you were trying to make. That is all Im trying to say. Its a minor inconvinence to you because a rather intelegent descision was made by the developers of knoppix. You also said you didnt have time to fix it, well maybe a bug report with a feature request with the fearture I mentioned. It doesnt sound too hard to implement. And before you say it, Im not going to do it because I dont have that problem nor do I care.
Oh wow, that was a really great comparison of order of importance. Comparing a life threatening deases to a minor announce which I exposed your grip for. My point was that it was a simple thing to setup when using knoppix if you have a static link. Also there are very few people on this earth that know how to do medical research in the area of HIV, but you on the other hand obviously know the difference between the DHCP that knoppix expects and your static link and Im sure it wouldnt be much for you to learn how to edit one file and issue one command to bring up your network. So you should really learn to not blow things out of proportion just to make yourself feel smarter and grand stand. Really dont be such an idiot.
Its not a little braindead. This is a distribution setup to run on the most desktop systems and choose sane defaults without too much(none?) user interaction. Thats the point of knoppix and the fact is that most desktop systems are either on dhcp or ppp. That is a fact of life and normally those on static links ussually know how to setup the static link and its not that much work. Sure if you have a network card that doesnt come up poping up a helpful dialog that says that your network didnt come up under dhcp and ask if the user wants to leave the link down, try again, or setup a static link would be helpful, but if it bothers you Im sure knoppix would accept a patch or two from you if you did it. Dont say that the choice is braindead unless you think it through or are willing to add a brain.
Im with you buddy, I have been on my 800Mhz Celeron for the past 4 years(though I must admit it is "slightly" overclocked to 1.1Ghz). Meanwhile my dad bitches daily to me about how slow and how much of a piece of shit his P4 1.8Ghz system is. I keep telling him its windows be he refuses to let me put that "Piece of Shit" Linux on his system. Im ashamed to call him my father sometimes. And on a similar subject I did just splurge for a brand new Apple iBook G4. I brought it to engineering(WVU student) three days after I got it and no one could imagine why I got the 12 inch Apple iBook running at an appauling 800Mhz while they showed off their 17 inch beasts with top of the line intel crap. That was until they saw the amazing battery life and how I could throw it into my backpack and it fit in perfectly because it is the exact size of my notebooks and textbooks. Size might matter in somethings, but in the computer world most people get size for the sake of size and end up screwing themselves. Ok now Im done ranting and heading off to bed.
Well, if your using unstable that is the way the cookie crumbles. On my system though, xmltv looks installable. Maybe you should try out aptitude because I find it a lot more inteligent about package management and shows you what is happeneing with your system.
Stop propogating that myth. The plans for the saturn V are safe and archived somewhere. Im willing to bet that a citizen could get a hold of them with a freedom of information act request. Infact I think that would be a great research project for a university to update the saturn V. Hmmm... Im at a university. I have to go... to do something totally unrelated to the Saturn V... Hoitght!!!
ATI has offered and is currently giving out, not only specs, but also hardware to develop open source drivers to anyone with the ability and time to do it. I think they realize its cheaper to supply someone with the specs and some hardware and get quality drivers than it is to pay an in house developer.(Source of this info was Micheal Danzer, if my memory serves me correct. Atleast someone on the DRI project)
I dont think backwards compatibility will be the problem everyone thinks it is. Doesnt apple or someone already have a windows emulator for the mac? Even if they dont, youve got a ppc970 core probably running at 2GHz, and a plenty beefy graphics card. So I doubt that microsoft will have a problem producing an emulator. Also what about PS2's PS1 on a chip. Microsoft could put a XBOX1 on a chip in the XBOX2. I seriously doubt that Microsoft will be stupid enough to not include backwards compatibility when it would be this simple to put it in.
Is it just me or is SCO now distributing linux 2.4.19 on their ftp site? Isnt 2.4.19 one of the kernels they claim IP rights on? I think this is a blatant violation of the GPL or willful contribution of their code to the kernel under the GPL.
The money that the US gave Europe after WWII was not exactly a no strings attached freebe either. Alot of that money went to US companies in contracts to rebuild Europe. Also if you remember the US economy was ramped up really high durring the war years, and getting the European economy back on track and consuming in a large fasion gave a place for all of the surplus US good to go. So this was a huge economic benfit to the US. You must also remember the political reasons for all that free US money. The US wanted to stave off the USSR from taking control of all of Europe and the only thing that could stop the communists was a strong capitalist western Europe. That money might have apeared free, but the US got a lot of value for its money.
And as for Iraq, I think that the US leadership does not see a lot of the same value comming out of Iraq, for good reason. The only thing that Iraq has that the US wants is oil and the best way to get at that oil legally is to make any money a loan. One might also say that Iraq could be a stabalizing effect in the region, but that could only end in disastor as the Iraqi government would only be seen as a pupet government. There is too much of social and cultural difference between the US(and yes europe) for a marshal plan like course to be taken.
Also, please dont automatically assume racisim is the cause of everything, it shows your ignorance.(Im not saying racisim isnt there, but there are many other reasons for the differences between the marshal plan and the current Iraq loans.)
Now we go to the definative source... IBM. http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/tec hdocs/852569B20050FF7785256996007248B1
Now look at the title. And realize that IBM's internal designation for the Power 4 is the Power PC 7XX. Now really, who needs to take a look in the mirror to find the idiot?
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Quite right, Sorry for jumping down your throat.
First, I was in a computer lab and was posting that about 5 minutes before my next class so I wasnt really to much into presentation, that means paragraphs, grammar, spelling, and restraint from the use of profanity.
Second, how about I come kill you or violate your rights in some other way and then when the government come to arrest me Ill just tell them to butt out because it is between you and me and they need to shut up and mind their own buisness.Sound crazy? Yup, but thats exactly what your saying. Governments were made to protect the weak and I cant think of many people much weaker than a child still in its mother's womb.
And I am anti-abortion(HA! maybe you should read my post) and as a member of that group I am in it for the RIGHTS of the unborn child. I have no more arrogance than someone who sees a murder in progress and attempts to stop it. I see abortion as murder.
And as for the parents, if you bothered to read my post then you would know my postion on them and how most people who get abortions(yes I know quite a few) see it as an easy way out of a mistake. Most rationalize it away as just a mistake and many of the girls who I know who have had abortions go into depression after the rationalization wears off and they realize that they murdered their own child.
Third, as for this post being off topic, check out the parent. I saw something that I believed to be untrue and pure propaganda and I felt I had to respond. And I will admit that I responded out of personal arrogance and not wanting the parent to go unchallenged. The fact of the matter is that both comments were offtopic but someone else brought it up and like I said I felt I had to respond.
And I do agree that slashdot would be a nicer place, but I didnt start it(childish sounding I know). So basically, get off your high horse and think about the crap your shoveling.
I am pro-life and it really irks me that you first of all call me anti-choice and second say Im about controling the lives and choices of women. So from here on out Im going to put things into perspective(I did this to my women's studies professor when she made the same mistake) and refer to your movement as ANTI-LIFE. Now Ill take on your other mistake. The anti-life movement tries to make abortion about women's rights. I believe its more about the three persons involved and thats why I am pro-life. The three people are obviously the Mother, the Father, and the Child. ALl there have rights and responsibilities in this and choices in this situation. First the child has the right to live. Some may say that the child is just a featus and there fore is not a person. Studies have proven that babies are concious and have thought processes while still in the womb and that conciousness makes that featus a human being and there for has a right to live. Next lets examine the Father and Mother together. As another poster has already pointed out they descided to have sex(Im not going to examine the issue of rape because I see that as a seperate issue and my beliefs there very slightly in that I believe the rapist should be castrated and be made to pay reparations to the victim and Im not sure where I stand on abortion there). I am not some virginial hermit who has never had sex. Everytime I have sex with a woman I make a concious choice that I am willing to have the child with her and support her monitarily, phyisically, and emotionally through out the pregnancy and examine our options together as to if we want to get married or give the baby up for adoption or share custody in some way. That is the problem with most people and abortion. Abortion is simply a way out of a mistake that distroies a human life. Its not about choice. Both persons have already made the choice by having sex. BTW, I took womans studies because I am a big supporter of women's rights all over the world and I cant stand weak women and it sickens me to see women who let themselves be dominated. Fact of the matter is I saying that all pro-life advocates are against womens rights is just as bad as saying that all pro-choice advocates are against life. It is two sets of people seeing the same very grey issue from two differing view points. I dont personally think abortion needs to be outlawed. I think that sex education and the way sex is looked at in the US needs a reevaluation. Oh, and just for shits and giggles, my women's studies professor and I had a debate on the subject and in the end that was the conclusion we both came to. And just to bring it back on topic, Debian rules because its about many people of differing view points comming together to work on something they all agree is a good thing and finding common grounds and working out disagreements to the betterment of all. That is what made the US great at one time, but now its in decline because everyone is greedy and wants the biggest share of the pie.
You ended up with 3 pythons because of the incompatibilities between the minor versions. This is not debian's fault. Acctually the very fact that you can still install these three pythons and fufill all the dependencies is a tribute to debian. And as for the 2 gccs I doubt that you acctually need both installed and I bet it has something to do with the 2.96 to 3.2 transition that debian unstable went through and debian testing will have to go through. Once testing gets 3.2 set as the default you can remove 2.96 and not have to worry about having 2 gccs around anymore. Dont blame debian for things they have no control over, and realize what a large technical accomplishment it is for a group of VOLUNTEERS to put together such a great OS.
What exactly is scowned? Is it kinda like being stoned except for rocks they use scones? Cause if it is that then I would love to be scowned especially if its those Starbucks ones. I love those.
note garnome. It puts an entire development gnome install in your home directory with all the current libraries. Also, Im not sure where your getting evolator from, but if your running debian testing or stable and trying to pull packages in from unstable or experimental, then this situation will happen with any package you try to pull down. Its the nature of debian and using libraries as opposed to statically linking stuff. Gnome might have a few more dependancies to satisfy but the very fact that its using libraries that are on your system is a good thing because you dont have to pull in 5 different libraries for each program you want to use.
That is why most people use a distribution that has already done this dependancy hunting for you. All I do on my debian machine is apt-get install evoluion or if I want the build dependancies all I do is apt-get build-dep evolution. Also you have garnome for those who wish the cutting edge, and if you want more cutting edge than that, your probably a developer and know where to get all the dependancies and compile them all. So your rant about the lack massive number of dependancies is really just a straw man.
Im sorry, but no you dont. My point was about a minor inconinience. You made it about life and death. There is too big of a difference there and then you made an even bigger mistake by trying to apply my opinion about a minor inconvinience to life and death. That is improper and just wrong to use that to make any point that you were trying to make. That is all Im trying to say. Its a minor inconvinence to you because a rather intelegent descision was made by the developers of knoppix. You also said you didnt have time to fix it, well maybe a bug report with a feature request with the fearture I mentioned. It doesnt sound too hard to implement. And before you say it, Im not going to do it because I dont have that problem nor do I care.
Oh wow, that was a really great comparison of order of importance. Comparing a life threatening deases to a minor announce which I exposed your grip for. My point was that it was a simple thing to setup when using knoppix if you have a static link. Also there are very few people on this earth that know how to do medical research in the area of HIV, but you on the other hand obviously know the difference between the DHCP that knoppix expects and your static link and Im sure it wouldnt be much for you to learn how to edit one file and issue one command to bring up your network. So you should really learn to not blow things out of proportion just to make yourself feel smarter and grand stand. Really dont be such an idiot.
Its not a little braindead. This is a distribution setup to run on the most desktop systems and choose sane defaults without too much(none?) user interaction. Thats the point of knoppix and the fact is that most desktop systems are either on dhcp or ppp. That is a fact of life and normally those on static links ussually know how to setup the static link and its not that much work. Sure if you have a network card that doesnt come up poping up a helpful dialog that says that your network didnt come up under dhcp and ask if the user wants to leave the link down, try again, or setup a static link would be helpful, but if it bothers you Im sure knoppix would accept a patch or two from you if you did it. Dont say that the choice is braindead unless you think it through or are willing to add a brain.
Im with you buddy, I have been on my 800Mhz Celeron for the past 4 years(though I must admit it is "slightly" overclocked to 1.1Ghz). Meanwhile my dad bitches daily to me about how slow and how much of a piece of shit his P4 1.8Ghz system is. I keep telling him its windows be he refuses to let me put that "Piece of Shit" Linux on his system. Im ashamed to call him my father sometimes. And on a similar subject I did just splurge for a brand new Apple iBook G4. I brought it to engineering(WVU student) three days after I got it and no one could imagine why I got the 12 inch Apple iBook running at an appauling 800Mhz while they showed off their 17 inch beasts with top of the line intel crap. That was until they saw the amazing battery life and how I could throw it into my backpack and it fit in perfectly because it is the exact size of my notebooks and textbooks. Size might matter in somethings, but in the computer world most people get size for the sake of size and end up screwing themselves. Ok now Im done ranting and heading off to bed.
Well, if your using unstable that is the way the cookie crumbles. On my system though, xmltv looks installable. Maybe you should try out aptitude because I find it a lot more inteligent about package management and shows you what is happeneing with your system.
Correction ATI:Open Source drivers acctually work. Provide OSS developers with documentation.
Stop propogating that myth. The plans for the saturn V are safe and archived somewhere. Im willing to bet that a citizen could get a hold of them with a freedom of information act request. Infact I think that would be a great research project for a university to update the saturn V. Hmmm... Im at a university. I have to go... to do something totally unrelated to the Saturn V... Hoitght!!!
As an Aerospace Engineering major at WVU let me be the first to say, YIPPIE!!!! That is all. We now return you to your regularly scheduled trolls.
Unfortunately there was this little thing called the Civil War that set an awefully big precedent against that.
Oh wow, someone has either too much time on their hands, or not enough porn. None the less bravo.
Does that make Microsoft SAURON?
ATI has offered and is currently giving out, not only specs, but also hardware to develop open source drivers to anyone with the ability and time to do it. I think they realize its cheaper to supply someone with the specs and some hardware and get quality drivers than it is to pay an in house developer.(Source of this info was Micheal Danzer, if my memory serves me correct. Atleast someone on the DRI project)
I dont think backwards compatibility will be the problem everyone thinks it is. Doesnt apple or someone already have a windows emulator for the mac? Even if they dont, youve got a ppc970 core probably running at 2GHz, and a plenty beefy graphics card. So I doubt that microsoft will have a problem producing an emulator. Also what about PS2's PS1 on a chip. Microsoft could put a XBOX1 on a chip in the XBOX2. I seriously doubt that Microsoft will be stupid enough to not include backwards compatibility when it would be this simple to put it in.
The USPTO is a profitable buisness already. Im sure they could foot the bill if congress stopped using that "profit" for pet projects.
Is it just me or is SCO now distributing linux 2.4.19 on their ftp site? Isnt 2.4.19 one of the kernels they claim IP rights on? I think this is a blatant violation of the GPL or willful contribution of their code to the kernel under the GPL.
The money that the US gave Europe after WWII was not exactly a no strings attached freebe either. Alot of that money went to US companies in contracts to rebuild Europe. Also if you remember the US economy was ramped up really high durring the war years, and getting the European economy back on track and consuming in a large fasion gave a place for all of the surplus US good to go. So this was a huge economic benfit to the US. You must also remember the political reasons for all that free US money. The US wanted to stave off the USSR from taking control of all of Europe and the only thing that could stop the communists was a strong capitalist western Europe. That money might have apeared free, but the US got a lot of value for its money. And as for Iraq, I think that the US leadership does not see a lot of the same value comming out of Iraq, for good reason. The only thing that Iraq has that the US wants is oil and the best way to get at that oil legally is to make any money a loan. One might also say that Iraq could be a stabalizing effect in the region, but that could only end in disastor as the Iraqi government would only be seen as a pupet government. There is too much of social and cultural difference between the US(and yes europe) for a marshal plan like course to be taken. Also, please dont automatically assume racisim is the cause of everything, it shows your ignorance.(Im not saying racisim isnt there, but there are many other reasons for the differences between the marshal plan and the current Iraq loans.)
Now we go to the definative source... IBM. http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/tec hdocs/852569B20050FF7785256996007248B1
Now look at the title. And realize that IBM's internal designation for the Power 4 is the Power PC 7XX. Now really, who needs to take a look in the mirror to find the idiot?
Or coule it be a Power5? Yes I think it is. I mean the Power4 isnt 64bit. Atleast be correct in your stupidity.