There will always be a place in a HUMAN society for human workers. Even on star trek, based in the socialist future, has humans piloting star ships and making decisions.
People have the ability to improve themselves, to think, to be rational.
It's easy to forget this. I just don't have the same faith in the human species that you do, that's all.
In spite of it being a reply to my misanthropy, I suggest a mod up for the parent.
So shouldn't the remaining 5% of the population (like many of us here (wow, is that statement elitist or what!?)) try to do something for/with the others?
I've always felt that trying to eliminate the undesirable and banal jobs for which you need little skill and intelligence is good for society; of course, I consider myself in the 5%.
OK, so we won't allow them to work, because they would screw everything up then. What next? What else can they contribute to society? What do we do with those people who have by our decisions been reduced to mindless blobs and leeches to society?
it's not hard, picture a world where everyone is on welfare, with a minimum stipend, that allows for near 0 opportunity for anything beyond mundane existance, for some television to watch
Or would you rather not feed them at all?
This whole vision of a mostly workless society is the logical conclusion to a sentient species' destiny; however, it seems to contradict every human principle ever devised.
In conclusion: I, for one, welcome our new vagrant underlings! (/me ducks projectile fresh produce)
What this guy is writing about is making me think. Perhaps we can gain some insight in defeating the M$ monopoly from the past.
The classic example of the monopoly is Standard Oil. Now, one of the people responsible for bringing light to Rockefeller's monopoly was the muck-raker Ida Tarbell. She had an interest in bringing Rockefeller to justice: her father was an oil worker in Pennsylvania whose company was put out of business by Standard Oil. Through the writing of a series of articles, she informed the reading public about the misdeeds of the Trust. She also followed Rockefeller personally. Eventually, she wrote a book, The History of the Standard Oil Company. (Note: all of this info is what I remember of some movie about the subject, which I watched in February.)
Back to the present day. How can we (non-trivially) compare $O to M$?
Why did each man seek his money so desperately as to "cheat?" Historians have noted that Rockefeller was deeply religious. He felt that he was on a mission from God to make money, in order to then give it back to the needy. Although the Bill and Melinda Gates Foudation gives some of his money away, I think it's for tax reasons that he does this. Remember, Rockefeller made his money before income tax (by about ten years).
How can we make the M$ monopoly outrageous to the regular public? Everybody back then knew the importance of kerosene, the most important oil product then; also, Rockefeller's anti-competitive actions put many people out of business, making them angry. As I mentioned before, this is why Tarbell wrote her articles. Now, who can we turn to that would be like her? An unopinionated news agency like AP or Reuters cannot work; what we need are people like Cringley here, who will explain the evils of monopoly. Discussions about how monopoly causes software homogeny causes vulnerability, stagnation, and high prices (well, maybe they do understand that...) do not affect Joe User; blatently anti-competitve actions like this can.
Does anybody else agree? Or am I just full of shit? Or both?
***WARNING! PIPE DREAM ALERT!*** One way (as I see it) to successfully cast off all IP laws is to guarantee levels of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs up to the level of knowledge, thus eliminating the need for money altogether. That way, there won't be any need for greed, theft, etc...
In other words, until we can feed, house, support, and encourage everyone, someone will want money. And as long as someone wants money, there will be IP laws, and what a great source of money they are!
Wow, I actually said all that without vehemently ranting (almost)! Party on my box tonight!
Invention for invention's sake. You have forgotten that the world does not run on money alone, despite what "they" claim. It's like the starving artist; he could persue money like everyone else, but he does not, because he knows what he produces is, in the long run, much more valuable.
Or so I believe. All I know for certain is this: I certainly hope that when it comes time for me to make a career choice, potential benefit to society, and not money, drives me.
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Host server18.go2net.com (66.150.0.148) appears to be up... good. Initiating SYN Stealth Scan against server18.go2net.com (66.150.0.148) Adding open port 443/tcp
Adding open port 80/tcp
Adding open port 21/tcp
Adding open port 13782/tcp
Adding open port 13783/tcp
Adding open port 22/tcp
The SYN Stealth Scan took 289 seconds to scan 1601 ports. Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port For OSScan assuming that port 21 is open and port 32262 is closed and neither are firewalled Interesting ports on server18.go2net.com (66.150.0.148): (The 1595 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered) Port State Service 21/tcp open ftp 22/tcp open ssh 80/tcp open http 443/tcp open https 13782/tcp open VeritasNetbackup 13783/tcp open VeritasNetbackup Remote operating system guess: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE or -STABLE (July 2002) (X86) Uptime 361.826 days (since Tue Aug 27 20:23:00 2002) TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=truly random
Difficulty=9999999 (Good luck!) IPID Sequence Generation: Busy server or unknown class
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 302 seconds
Hmm... FreeBSD... interesting (although possibly inaccurate)... it does explain the uptime...
Standard disclaimer: I do not roleplay; therefore, if I'm trolling and/or make no sense, politely mod me down and move on. Thank you.
Is artificial intelligence at a high enough level to be so open-ended as to allow true roleplaying. Granted, most game AI has been associated (at least from my POV) with making enemies more aware as to fighting. Can current NPC technology correctly interpret your actions. Now add in multiplayer. Can an NPC understand what two characters have decided to do to affect the storyline?
What if they put an RFID on a box of condoms? I mean, isn't it embarassing enough to try to buy some anyway? (Not that I've ever had the need to buy condoms.)
Or what about hemorrhoid cream? Or a million products for which it's bad enough that one has to buy them from a convenience store in front of a cashier?
Yeah, yeah. I know what's next for me: "Hello, Mr. Tin Hat, this is Mr. Corner..."
The company sent an email alert to Messenger users, but users reported thinking the message was a hoax or virus after receiving over a dozen copies of the email.
So have all the M$-targetted email worms actually done something besides be an annoyance?
On second thought, it's just Microsoft employee stupidity for sending multiple copies.
We should make robots to replace unskilled labor, and take those who are out of work and use them to help alleviate the "big" issues. Why waste human "intelligence" on mindless work when they could go to better use.
Disclaimer: I have no idea what I am talking about. This all assumes that unskilled laborers have something to contribute besides unskilled labor.
Is it too much to ask for everyone to just STFU about Moore's Law? Can't we just let it go quietly? I mean, aren't there more important things than sitting around arguing the relevance (if any) of Moore's Law.
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In spite of it being a reply to my misanthropy, I suggest a mod up for the parent.
So shouldn't the remaining 5% of the population (like many of us here (wow, is that statement elitist or what!?)) try to do something for/with the others?
I've always felt that trying to eliminate the undesirable and banal jobs for which you need little skill and intelligence is good for society; of course, I consider myself in the 5%.
OK, so we won't allow them to work, because they would screw everything up then. What next? What else can they contribute to society? What do we do with those people who have by our decisions been reduced to mindless blobs and leeches to society?
it's not hard, picture a world where everyone is on welfare, with a minimum stipend, that allows for near 0 opportunity for anything beyond mundane existance, for some television to watch
Or would you rather not feed them at all?
This whole vision of a mostly workless society is the logical conclusion to a sentient species' destiny; however, it seems to contradict every human principle ever devised.
In conclusion: I, for one, welcome our new vagrant underlings!
(/me ducks projectile fresh produce)
You don't say! Well, I feel like a moron...
-1, Stupid
Windows apps, a la Lindows?
The classic example of the monopoly is Standard Oil. Now, one of the people responsible for bringing light to Rockefeller's monopoly was the muck-raker Ida Tarbell. She had an interest in bringing Rockefeller to justice: her father was an oil worker in Pennsylvania whose company was put out of business by Standard Oil. Through the writing of a series of articles, she informed the reading public about the misdeeds of the Trust. She also followed Rockefeller personally. Eventually, she wrote a book, The History of the Standard Oil Company. (Note: all of this info is what I remember of some movie about the subject, which I watched in February.)
Back to the present day. How can we (non-trivially) compare $O to M$?
Does anybody else agree? Or am I just full of shit? Or both?
It's weird... 3x the amount... I got four messages in ten minutes at one point...
Ideally, yes.
Realistically, no.
***WARNING! PIPE DREAM ALERT!***
One way (as I see it) to successfully cast off all IP laws is to guarantee levels of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs up to the level of knowledge, thus eliminating the need for money altogether. That way, there won't be any need for greed, theft, etc...
In other words, until we can feed, house, support, and encourage everyone, someone will want money. And as long as someone wants money, there will be IP laws, and what a great source of money they are!
Wow, I actually said all that without vehemently ranting (almost)! Party on my box tonight!
Invention for invention's sake. You have forgotten that the world does not run on money alone, despite what "they" claim. It's like the starving artist; he could persue money like everyone else, but he does not, because he knows what he produces is, in the long run, much more valuable.
Or so I believe. All I know for certain is this: I certainly hope that when it comes time for me to make a career choice, potential benefit to society, and not money, drives me.
THE SKY IS FALLING! Run away! Run away!
Dear Lameness Filter:
I am yelling.
People aren't wearing enough of them.
Just for fun: # nmap -sS -O -v www.linuxsucks.com
... good.
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Host server18.go2net.com (66.150.0.148) appears to be up
Initiating SYN Stealth Scan against server18.go2net.com (66.150.0.148)
Adding open port 443/tcp
Adding open port 80/tcp
Adding open port 21/tcp
Adding open port 13782/tcp
Adding open port 13783/tcp
Adding open port 22/tcp
The SYN Stealth Scan took 289 seconds to scan 1601 ports.
Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port
For OSScan assuming that port 21 is open and port 32262 is closed and neither are firewalled
Interesting ports on server18.go2net.com (66.150.0.148):
(The 1595 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
Port State Service
21/tcp open ftp
22/tcp open ssh
80/tcp open http
443/tcp open https
13782/tcp open VeritasNetbackup
13783/tcp open VeritasNetbackup
Remote operating system guess: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE or -STABLE (July 2002) (X86)
Uptime 361.826 days (since Tue Aug 27 20:23:00 2002)
TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=truly random
Difficulty=9999999 (Good luck!)
IPID Sequence Generation: Busy server or unknown class
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 302 seconds
Hmm... FreeBSD... interesting (although possibly inaccurate)... it does explain the uptime...
/me starts mumbling.
/me reaches into the shed.
/me slaps E-Pass execs and appellate judges with a 2x4 of Enlightenment.
/me wakes up.
There is a time and a place for each word. Certain words are used for different effects.
Some adults still play with dolls. Of course, they're life-size blow-ups...
Standard disclaimer: I do not roleplay; therefore, if I'm trolling and/or make no sense, politely mod me down and move on. Thank you.
Is artificial intelligence at a high enough level to be so open-ended as to allow true roleplaying. Granted, most game AI has been associated (at least from my POV) with making enemies more aware as to fighting. Can current NPC technology correctly interpret your actions. Now add in multiplayer. Can an NPC understand what two characters have decided to do to affect the storyline?
Just for kicks, check the latest Gamespy Grudge: Strategy vs. Blowing Stuff Up
but I haven't seen my check from IBM yet...
What if they put an RFID on a box of condoms? I mean, isn't it embarassing enough to try to buy some anyway? (Not that I've ever had the need to buy condoms.)
Or what about hemorrhoid cream? Or a million products for which it's bad enough that one has to buy them from a convenience store in front of a cashier?
Yeah, yeah. I know what's next for me: "Hello, Mr. Tin Hat, this is Mr. Corner..."
As long as people understand that they can get the same product for free with a little more effort put into setup, any "exploitation" is acceptable.
That said, the problem has always been getting name recognition without advertising or other corporate-type actions.
The company sent an email alert to Messenger users, but users reported thinking the message was a hoax or virus after receiving over a dozen copies of the email.
So have all the M$-targetted email worms actually done something besides be an annoyance?
On second thought, it's just Microsoft employee stupidity for sending multiple copies.
We should make robots to replace unskilled labor, and take those who are out of work and use them to help alleviate the "big" issues. Why waste human "intelligence" on mindless work when they could go to better use.
Disclaimer: I have no idea what I am talking about. This all assumes that unskilled laborers have something to contribute besides unskilled labor.
Is it too much to ask for everyone to just STFU about Moore's Law? Can't we just let it go quietly? I mean, aren't there more important things than sitting around arguing the relevance (if any) of Moore's Law.
/.
Then again, I post on
There'll be a power station but still no manned missions by then.
Ah, pessimism...
Every time I go to Barnes & Noble, I find the (three) SCO-related books and hide them.
I do my part to help.
I wouldn't want to eat gelatin made from his hooves, nor feed him to my pet as dog food.
And good god, please don't let him stud.