When the submitter has an agenda, usually all that gets read is the headline.
And this obsession with Apple's integrated batteries is tiring. Billions of batteries have been kept out of landfills thanks to Apple, and the expected lifetime of even replaceable batteries is two years. Here is a free point: consumer products are purchased, used and eventually discarded. It's the Circle of Life.
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Spare us. A 15 year headstart didn't give us anything as slick as the iPhone and you think Microsoft or Motorola will be able to do anything but create a crappy "good enough" copy? Just like their current junk?
Of the ignorance of people like the Submitter.
Macs running OS X do not have viruses. That's what the commercial says. Why? Because it's true. And who gives a damn about Vista security? No one is using it. And no amount of glowing crap filled fluff pieces counting exploits will change the fact that Microsoft's complete lack of security gave us bot nets and robot spammers. And still does. Now fuck off.
Oh, and every Apple Fan bashing web traffic whore posing as a "tech journalist".
Simple put, they want it to fail. They are tired of having every single lame attack on Apple being repulsed by reality of Apple's success. The company that was supposed to be dead 20 years ago continues to make "tech journalists" look like fools and that's a damn good thing. The invented reasons why people don't want an iPhone are now more numerous than the feature set, and most of theses asses have never so much as seen an iPhone in the flesh.
I wanted the iPhone to be a success for Apple's sake, but now I want it to be a runaway smash hit just to continue to annoy the naysayers and expose them as the frauds they are. Maybe, someday, they'll stop letting their irrational biases taint their Apple articles and maybe, just maybe, stick to the facts and be the journalists they are actually paid to be.
Windows world isn't like that. It's a cold, unforgiving place where nothing is sacred, users turn like rabid wolves on any company that makes even the smallest error, and no prisoners are taken. Especially the Windows browser market
Elgan is a worthless crackhead. Just the malware vulnerabilities alone that Microsoft and it's pathetic security inflicted on the world puts paid to his entire line of... well, his delusion. I was going to say "reasoning" but this rant is so clearly disconnected from reality it would be a gross error to imply there was any reasoning whatsoever behind this article. Isn't it enough to have an irrational fear and loathing of all things Apple without inventing false histories and imaginairy scenarios to justify said loathing?
Microsoft's entire history is one of lowest common denominator "good enough" kludge. The idea that crap does not survive in the Windows world is a pathetic and sad fantasy, at odds with the fact that much of the Windows world *is* crap.
I love how even tho it's painfully clear from the initial article that there will be no third party verification of these "bugs" and the information won't even be sent to the vendor (which for a fact demonstrates that the submitter has no one's best interests in mind), posters are virtually falling all over themselves to extrapolate near End Times disaster scenarios for a browser released less than 24 hours ago. I can also see that Artie McStrawman is getting a real beating in here, as he regularly does when Apple is the subject.
This epistemological nonsense concerning the needs of business continues to amuse. Here is the simple fact: nobody cares. The iPhone will sell and sell big and almost no one will give a damn about "corporate email systems". And the idea that all the other features the iPhone provides (features that current "smartphones" can't match) will make it a "vanity toy" is ridiculous. It's an actual portable computer. For real. Not a simulacrum, not a free toy handed out with a two year contract. It, like the iPod, and unlike almost every single phone ever made, will have it's firmware and feature set upgraded by simply dropping it in it's cradle. It's software will change and upgrade and get more, not less useful, as the platform matures.
It's the end of the smart phone as we know it. And that's just fine.
But, in light of the fact that everyone who cares already upgraded their computers (RAM included) for Vista, all you have is the "Vista is dud!1!1!"
And how are all 40 of those people fairing?:p
I installed Vista on a 64 bit Athlon. I had to upgrade the RAM by 2 gigs just to get the OS to respond consistently.So I guess that makes it 41. 20 million upgrade certificates don't count as sales no matter what MS says. And when the Steve and Bill show went on the road with reporters, they had to field questions about Mac OS X and how Vista was catching up to options Macs already had. No love for the massive bloatware theme that is Vista, apparently. It's not selling PCs, it's not selling DRAM upgrades, and it's not created any excitement whatsoever amongst current Windows users.
You don't have to take my word for it that Vista landed with a resounding splat.
You Sir, are an idiot. The ridicule is from the collection of FUDmiesters that have set upon every Apple product since Jobs took back the company. The price, as usual, means absolutely nothing, but most of the types who bitch about the price are not going to buy one anyway. And just to seal the deal, you claim the feature set is "laughable" compared to the useless toys that providers have to give away. Congratulations, you are a complete jackass. Did you even watch the Keynote? Have you read any specs whatsoever? Yes, those questions are rhetorical.
"salvage the public perception". The amount of crow you dipsticks are going eat will hopefully choke you.
The only thing revolutionary about the iPhone is the Apple brainwashing that goes along with any of their products.
Thanks for the update on what the terminally dull are thinking. Off you go now, back to browsing the baby web on your 2x2 inch screen.
Seriously, would it hurt some of you buttplugs to read up on the technology you are so desperate to disparage? Vista is a dud. It's DOA. The fact that MS can force it's adoption thru it's illegal monopoly doesn't make Vista any less of a dud. The near zero increase in uptake of newer PCs, and now the whining of DRAM manufacturers is more than ample evidence.
But in light of this, all you have is "the iPhone is going to sux!11!". Bravo. That will show 'em.
This is why Apple really cannot replicate its success with the iPod here - the market is already saturated.
Saturated with crap. The current mobile phone market is a cesspool of half assed implementation and worse interface designs. If the game changing nature of the iPhone isn't apparent to you, that's just sad. Many people are happy with mediocrity. That's great, and that's what Windows and WinCE give you. But now there will be something more, something that the mobile phone market has consistently failed to deliver. The iPhone is already changing the mobile phone market if you care to read up on it, so pretending that "it's just a phone" is insightful commentary is a painful indication of just how far some tech nerds have their heads up their asses.
I see. So someone slagging all Apple users/supporters as mindless bots is "Insightful", but if I ask idiots to stop spewing their ignorance of a product they have no intention of buying, that's "Flamebait".
It's not "just a phone". If you didn't see the Keynote, shut the hell up about what you think the phone is or isn't. Really. Shut up. You don't "get it"? Shut Up. How many more times will Jobs and Apple change computers and consumer electronics before all the anti-Apple types just learn to shut up? I'm better never, but why don't some of you jackasses give it a try?
...in regards to the battle of competing consumer media formats, with HD-DVD on one side and Blu-Ray on the other, almost everyone agrees that the submitter is a dumbass.
But I did read the article. They did not sell a million Zunes. They may have shipped that many, but they have not sold that many. And it's still not a good bet they will sell a million by June 30.
Best case scenario, they have a million in the channel by June 30. Heck maybe they have that now.
As for the putative Zune defenders, yes, it gets slagged because it's from Microsoft, because it's chock full of the indicators of the DRMed to death world of locked down digital entertainment Microsoft would visit upon us in a heartbeat. If you don't understand why that alone is reason to distrust and even openly dislike Microsoft consumer products on principle, it's a wonder you are even in here.
And your lobbyists are trying to bribe Canadian officials to adopt these idiotic and near fascist intellectual property laws? Has anyone pinned down the exact moment when the government apparatus for the US became entirely the domain of corporations and their shills?
A decent but not great product that in this case has an innovative idea - music sharing - that wasn't quite ready for prime time.
Bullshit. The DRM attached to every shared file ensures that the sharing feature is dead in the water. It isn't quite ready for prime time because it is an incredibly stupid idea.
They'll stick with it and, as with XBOX vs. PS, they'll eventually get it right and be #1 or #2 in the market.
Please. The Playstation 2, a 5+ year old platform, kicked Microsoft's ass all over the place, and now Microsoft's high end offering, the 360, while only outselling the PS3 because of it's head start, is going to get it's head handed to it by the Wii.
Windows Mobile is already the #2 platform for smart phones in the world and quickly catching up to Symbian.
What? Symbian has 72% of the market. Linux has approximately 15%. That leave Microsoft and Palm to fight over the scraps. How does a maybe 10% share (being generous) of the market equate to "quickly catching up"?
So, your definition of "hideous mess" must be more of a reflection on your life...
Pathetic ad hominem, but the only hideous mess here the logic by which you claim Microsoft owns every market it steps into...
This way we can see more flamebait traffic generating fluff than ever.
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I bought Vista and have been using it for almost a month and a half.
For me or any nerd, hardware incompatibilities are a fact of life, and relatively expected. That's not really the issue.
The issue is the massive amount of change for changes sake. Tabbed control panels with all options clearly presented have been replaced with idiotic explorer pages with lists of nearly incoherently named options. The Start menu cascade has been replaced by a ridiculous window that must scrolled and double clicked thru. The icons for networking that used to bring up the control panels now bring up another tiny Explorer window with more vague options.
The list goes on and on. Everyday I use Vista another bvllshit aspect presents itself, another useful option replaced by lists of meaningless settings.
Moving from Win2K to XP was painless. I went to the setting tab and set it to "Classic" and all the Fisher Price XP nonsense was gone. But the underlying OS was now a far more usable and stable iteration of the NT code base.
Vista does none of that. It is merely a theme. 5 years and how many billions of dollars and all Microsoft gave me for my 150 C$ was a splashy interface with a myriad of pointless options, and a code base so bloated that 2 gigs of RAM is an absolute requirement before the system will even talk to you.
If Vista did not come loaded on your machine, it's not worth a penny extra to put it on an existing machine. And for some odd reason, the majority of people in the market for a Windows OS have realised that all at once.
And do we have to got back to dig out all the price commentary concerning the price of the iPod?
I like reading the opinions of freaks and geeks as much as anyone, but the laundry lists of why a product cannot work get tiresome, especially when so many people have been so spectacularly wrong about a great many products, yet simply refuse to stop dredging up the same tired points.
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And this obsession with Apple's integrated batteries is tiring. Billions of batteries have been kept out of landfills thanks to Apple, and the expected lifetime of even replaceable batteries is two years. Here is a free point: consumer products are purchased, used and eventually discarded. It's the Circle of Life.
Spare us. A 15 year headstart didn't give us anything as slick as the iPhone and you think Microsoft or Motorola will be able to do anything but create a crappy "good enough" copy? Just like their current junk?
I guess you can dream.
Of the ignorance of people like the Submitter. Macs running OS X do not have viruses. That's what the commercial says. Why? Because it's true. And who gives a damn about Vista security? No one is using it. And no amount of glowing crap filled fluff pieces counting exploits will change the fact that Microsoft's complete lack of security gave us bot nets and robot spammers. And still does. Now fuck off.
I thought everyone knw that Steve Job's secretly grows his products in Proien Banks....
Oh, and every Apple Fan bashing web traffic whore posing as a "tech journalist".
Simple put, they want it to fail. They are tired of having every single lame attack on Apple being repulsed by reality of Apple's success. The company that was supposed to be dead 20 years ago continues to make "tech journalists" look like fools and that's a damn good thing. The invented reasons why people don't want an iPhone are now more numerous than the feature set, and most of theses asses have never so much as seen an iPhone in the flesh.
I wanted the iPhone to be a success for Apple's sake, but now I want it to be a runaway smash hit just to continue to annoy the naysayers and expose them as the frauds they are. Maybe, someday, they'll stop letting their irrational biases taint their Apple articles and maybe, just maybe, stick to the facts and be the journalists they are actually paid to be.
Yes, I realise that this is a pipe dream.
So no one ever replaces their phone, or is dissapointed with their current one? I'm not in awe of your insight.
Elgan is a worthless crackhead. Just the malware vulnerabilities alone that Microsoft and it's pathetic security inflicted on the world puts paid to his entire line of... well, his delusion. I was going to say "reasoning" but this rant is so clearly disconnected from reality it would be a gross error to imply there was any reasoning whatsoever behind this article. Isn't it enough to have an irrational fear and loathing of all things Apple without inventing false histories and imaginairy scenarios to justify said loathing?
Microsoft's entire history is one of lowest common denominator "good enough" kludge. The idea that crap does not survive in the Windows world is a pathetic and sad fantasy, at odds with the fact that much of the Windows world *is* crap.
I love how even tho it's painfully clear from the initial article that there will be no third party verification of these "bugs" and the information won't even be sent to the vendor (which for a fact demonstrates that the submitter has no one's best interests in mind), posters are virtually falling all over themselves to extrapolate near End Times disaster scenarios for a browser released less than 24 hours ago. I can also see that Artie McStrawman is getting a real beating in here, as he regularly does when Apple is the subject.
...and I thought I had a lot of free time.
It's the end of the smart phone as we know it. And that's just fine.
And how are all 40 of those people fairing? :p
I installed Vista on a 64 bit Athlon. I had to upgrade the RAM by 2 gigs just to get the OS to respond consistently.So I guess that makes it 41. 20 million upgrade certificates don't count as sales no matter what MS says. And when the Steve and Bill show went on the road with reporters, they had to field questions about Mac OS X and how Vista was catching up to options Macs already had. No love for the massive bloatware theme that is Vista, apparently. It's not selling PCs, it's not selling DRAM upgrades, and it's not created any excitement whatsoever amongst current Windows users.
You don't have to take my word for it that Vista landed with a resounding splat.
"salvage the public perception". The amount of crow you dipsticks are going eat will hopefully choke you.
Thanks for the update on what the terminally dull are thinking. Off you go now, back to browsing the baby web on your 2x2 inch screen.
Seriously, would it hurt some of you buttplugs to read up on the technology you are so desperate to disparage? Vista is a dud. It's DOA. The fact that MS can force it's adoption thru it's illegal monopoly doesn't make Vista any less of a dud. The near zero increase in uptake of newer PCs, and now the whining of DRAM manufacturers is more than ample evidence.
But in light of this, all you have is "the iPhone is going to sux!11!". Bravo. That will show 'em.
Saturated with crap. The current mobile phone market is a cesspool of half assed implementation and worse interface designs. If the game changing nature of the iPhone isn't apparent to you, that's just sad. Many people are happy with mediocrity. That's great, and that's what Windows and WinCE give you. But now there will be something more, something that the mobile phone market has consistently failed to deliver. The iPhone is already changing the mobile phone market if you care to read up on it, so pretending that "it's just a phone" is insightful commentary is a painful indication of just how far some tech nerds have their heads up their asses.
Welcome to Slashdot, I guess.
It's not "just a phone". If you didn't see the Keynote, shut the hell up about what you think the phone is or isn't. Really. Shut up. You don't "get it"? Shut Up. How many more times will Jobs and Apple change computers and consumer electronics before all the anti-Apple types just learn to shut up? I'm better never, but why don't some of you jackasses give it a try?
...in regards to the battle of competing consumer media formats, with HD-DVD on one side and Blu-Ray on the other, almost everyone agrees that the submitter is a dumbass.
Best case scenario, they have a million in the channel by June 30. Heck maybe they have that now.
As for the putative Zune defenders, yes, it gets slagged because it's from Microsoft, because it's chock full of the indicators of the DRMed to death world of locked down digital entertainment Microsoft would visit upon us in a heartbeat. If you don't understand why that alone is reason to distrust and even openly dislike Microsoft consumer products on principle, it's a wonder you are even in here.
And your lobbyists are trying to bribe Canadian officials to adopt these idiotic and near fascist intellectual property laws? Has anyone pinned down the exact moment when the government apparatus for the US became entirely the domain of corporations and their shills?
...that these are the same idiots that went around telling us broadband was dead, and that all kinds of people were falling back to dialup?
Bullshit. The DRM attached to every shared file ensures that the sharing feature is dead in the water. It isn't quite ready for prime time because it is an incredibly stupid idea.
They'll stick with it and, as with XBOX vs. PS, they'll eventually get it right and be #1 or #2 in the market.
Please. The Playstation 2, a 5+ year old platform, kicked Microsoft's ass all over the place, and now Microsoft's high end offering, the 360, while only outselling the PS3 because of it's head start, is going to get it's head handed to it by the Wii.
Windows Mobile is already the #2 platform for smart phones in the world and quickly catching up to Symbian.
What? Symbian has 72% of the market. Linux has approximately 15%. That leave Microsoft and Palm to fight over the scraps. How does a maybe 10% share (being generous) of the market equate to "quickly catching up"?
So, your definition of "hideous mess" must be more of a reflection on your life...
Pathetic ad hominem, but the only hideous mess here the logic by which you claim Microsoft owns every market it steps into...
Up next "Ten Things We Hate About Thumb Drives", and "Twenty Ways To Clean Up Those Unused Desktop Icons That Erratically and Mysteriously Appear Without Warning"."
I bought Vista and have been using it for almost a month and a half. For me or any nerd, hardware incompatibilities are a fact of life, and relatively expected. That's not really the issue. The issue is the massive amount of change for changes sake. Tabbed control panels with all options clearly presented have been replaced with idiotic explorer pages with lists of nearly incoherently named options. The Start menu cascade has been replaced by a ridiculous window that must scrolled and double clicked thru. The icons for networking that used to bring up the control panels now bring up another tiny Explorer window with more vague options. The list goes on and on. Everyday I use Vista another bvllshit aspect presents itself, another useful option replaced by lists of meaningless settings. Moving from Win2K to XP was painless. I went to the setting tab and set it to "Classic" and all the Fisher Price XP nonsense was gone. But the underlying OS was now a far more usable and stable iteration of the NT code base. Vista does none of that. It is merely a theme. 5 years and how many billions of dollars and all Microsoft gave me for my 150 C$ was a splashy interface with a myriad of pointless options, and a code base so bloated that 2 gigs of RAM is an absolute requirement before the system will even talk to you. If Vista did not come loaded on your machine, it's not worth a penny extra to put it on an existing machine. And for some odd reason, the majority of people in the market for a Windows OS have realised that all at once.
And do we have to got back to dig out all the price commentary concerning the price of the iPod? I like reading the opinions of freaks and geeks as much as anyone, but the laundry lists of why a product cannot work get tiresome, especially when so many people have been so spectacularly wrong about a great many products, yet simply refuse to stop dredging up the same tired points.
Unless you are going to do something about the availability of guns, these efforts are not only pointless but hypocritical.