Nope, not at all. I think most people just weigh the convenience against the remote possibility someone might get their fingerprints and then... ? I don't even know what they'd do with them. Frame me for murder? I can't even fathom what they might do.
Sorry I was referring to their first choice. Unless I'm misreading this:
4x D U O V F (bdale, russ, keith, don)
F U D O V (steve)
U D O F V (colin)
F V O U D (ian)
U F D O V (andi)
4 people had it as their first choice, 2 as their 3rd, one as their second and one as their 5th. So only 4 of 8 people picked that as the best option. Right?
Just curious what do you think someone will do with your fingerprint? If we assume worst case, somehow someone can get your fingerprint from your phone. Who is this person and what would they do with it that concerns you?
We manage over 2,000 devices (about 98% iphone, 2% iPad) and we have none of the problems you describe. I'd recommend looking into DEP which might help with some of your deployment problems. And I don't know what you mean about opening it, you just lift the lid off the box? I certainly won't argue that Apple devices are perfect but if these are the worst problems you can come up with then they're certainly miles ahead of anyone else.
What kills LibreOffice is that no one uses a desktop office suite anymore. Google Docs does everything 99% of people need and you don't have to worry about where your files are, unless you're some kind of weird basement troll. And even then you can just back them up regularly.
not something that's meant to be run 24/7/365 in a serious situation
First, I don't know what qualifies as a "serious situation", we are talking about someone's home router. But what exactly makes a RPi incapable of running 24x7? There thousands of these running 24x7 without issue.
I get these constantly, from owning [first_initial].[lastname]@gmail.com. Luckily my name is fairly uncommon. I always wonder how many of these errors are from customer service reps who are required to enter an email address, and the customer won't give them one, so they just enter [first][last]@gmail.com.
Sure I have. It's still not meant to be used as a primary home internet connection. There's a reason wireless is also called "mobile". It's designed to be used while you're on the go.
You should tell that to all those manufacturers who have been putting radios in their routers for the last decade. Or the entire companies built around the idea of fixed point cellular service. Or the entire concept of fixed LTE that's been expanding everywhere.
Sort of, the difference is you could always drop your SA if you needed to and you could carry whatever the current version of the software was. Now if you stop paying your business shuts down. Hopefully one day you're not trying to decide between paying salary or your Office 365 bill. Microsoft will be higher on your AP vendor pay list than the water bill. That's a scary thought.
If they're foolish enough to pay through the nose and lock themselves into deals with specific software brands, so be it.
To be honest the reason we lock ourselves into large agreements is to guarantee large discounts. It's typically not in the businesses interest to use their resources to constantly switch between providers. You can't move several thousand (or even hundreds, and maybe dozens) people between different SaaS offerings every year or two. Not only does this tie up your internal IT resources, you've got to retrain staff which is very expensive.
The only reason this is being pushed is because it's getting harder and harder to convince people they need to upgrade Office. I'd argue that most people could get by with Office 2003 and almost guarantee they could get by with Office 2007 which was released over 10 years ago.
and is equal or less in cost when amortized against one-off purchases of boxed software
Maybe if you're upgrading every year? Which we all know is completely unnecessary. Office 2016 Home & Student is $149 and Office 365 Personal is $6.99/mo. That means if you keep your office version for two years, it is cheaper to buy a boxed copy than pay for a subscription. No one would argue you could easily use the same version of Office for TWICE that period of time.
This is rent seeking, plain and simple. They're trying to structure it in such a way to increase your cost unnecessarily and force you to make purchases you wouldn't have otherwise needed.
- stareing, day in and day out with awe and amazement at the ultimate shitfest that is WordPresses application architecture and wondering how we as a human race even got this far... That's just from the top of my head.
Low barrier to entry. They could get something up and running within a week and spend the rest of their lives making money trying to fix it.
"you're not allowed to connect hardware to the network without us checking it out first"
What's unreasonable about that? if you bring in hardware and start using it to perform critical work functions, the business now depends on it working. What happens when it breaks? What happens when you leave? Let alone the security implications. Are you storing sensitive information on that computer? How is it secured? Do you work in a regulated industry? I'm sure you're competent enough to manage device security, but do you think that one, extremely non-technical associate, in say, marketing, capable?
Nope, not at all. I think most people just weigh the convenience against the remote possibility someone might get their fingerprints and then ... ? I don't even know what they'd do with them. Frame me for murder? I can't even fathom what they might do.
4x D U O V F (bdale, russ, keith, don)
F U D O V (steve)
U D O F V (colin)
F V O U D (ian)
U F D O V (andi)
4 people had it as their first choice, 2 as their 3rd, one as their second and one as their 5th. So only 4 of 8 people picked that as the best option. Right?
Just curious what do you think someone will do with your fingerprint? If we assume worst case, somehow someone can get your fingerprint from your phone. Who is this person and what would they do with it that concerns you?
We manage over 2,000 devices (about 98% iphone, 2% iPad) and we have none of the problems you describe. I'd recommend looking into DEP which might help with some of your deployment problems. And I don't know what you mean about opening it, you just lift the lid off the box? I certainly won't argue that Apple devices are perfect but if these are the worst problems you can come up with then they're certainly miles ahead of anyone else.
Embrace, Extend and Extinguish.
Looks like it was 4-4, not 2-2, right? Four for systemd vs two for upstart, two to keep sysvinit.
Is English not your first language? Do you think I literally meant that NO ONE uses desktop office suites?
You seem to be confused. Where did I say more people used Google Docs? Read the thread again, carefully.
Who's talking about businesses?
What kills LibreOffice is that no one uses a desktop office suite anymore. Google Docs does everything 99% of people need and you don't have to worry about where your files are, unless you're some kind of weird basement troll. And even then you can just back them up regularly.
not something that's meant to be run 24/7/365 in a serious situation
First, I don't know what qualifies as a "serious situation", we are talking about someone's home router. But what exactly makes a RPi incapable of running 24x7? There thousands of these running 24x7 without issue.
Depends on the state with California usually being the most restrictive when it comes to gun/knife regulations.
I get these constantly, from owning [first_initial].[lastname]@gmail.com. Luckily my name is fairly uncommon. I always wonder how many of these errors are from customer service reps who are required to enter an email address, and the customer won't give them one, so they just enter [first][last]@gmail.com.
Sure I have. It's still not meant to be used as a primary home internet connection. There's a reason wireless is also called "mobile". It's designed to be used while you're on the go.
You should tell that to all those manufacturers who have been putting radios in their routers for the last decade. Or the entire companies built around the idea of fixed point cellular service. Or the entire concept of fixed LTE that's been expanding everywhere.
Just fork it already. I'm so tired of hearing about this.
Sort of, the difference is you could always drop your SA if you needed to and you could carry whatever the current version of the software was. Now if you stop paying your business shuts down. Hopefully one day you're not trying to decide between paying salary or your Office 365 bill. Microsoft will be higher on your AP vendor pay list than the water bill. That's a scary thought.
If they're foolish enough to pay through the nose and lock themselves into deals with specific software brands, so be it.
To be honest the reason we lock ourselves into large agreements is to guarantee large discounts. It's typically not in the businesses interest to use their resources to constantly switch between providers. You can't move several thousand (or even hundreds, and maybe dozens) people between different SaaS offerings every year or two. Not only does this tie up your internal IT resources, you've got to retrain staff which is very expensive.
and is equal or less in cost when amortized against one-off purchases of boxed software
Maybe if you're upgrading every year? Which we all know is completely unnecessary. Office 2016 Home & Student is $149 and Office 365 Personal is $6.99/mo. That means if you keep your office version for two years, it is cheaper to buy a boxed copy than pay for a subscription. No one would argue you could easily use the same version of Office for TWICE that period of time.
This is rent seeking, plain and simple. They're trying to structure it in such a way to increase your cost unnecessarily and force you to make purchases you wouldn't have otherwise needed.
Yes, and the responsibilities of parents to help enable it.
Still important to know what that is, I've seen RIPv1 running in some strange places.
I was curious why the US didn't seem more worried about the Russia/India hypersonic anti-ship missiles. Now we know.
- stareing, day in and day out with awe and amazement at the ultimate shitfest that is WordPresses application architecture and wondering how we as a human race even got this far ... That's just from the top of my head.
Low barrier to entry. They could get something up and running within a week and spend the rest of their lives making money trying to fix it.
You think that in house IT guy is taking advantage of you? Wait until IBM gets their hands on you.
"you're not allowed to connect hardware to the network without us checking it out first"
What's unreasonable about that? if you bring in hardware and start using it to perform critical work functions, the business now depends on it working. What happens when it breaks? What happens when you leave? Let alone the security implications. Are you storing sensitive information on that computer? How is it secured? Do you work in a regulated industry? I'm sure you're competent enough to manage device security, but do you think that one, extremely non-technical associate, in say, marketing, capable?