This has been driving me nuts for the past few days. Yeah, I'm an addict. I admit the problem. Withdrawal is no fun. All those "so why doesn't slashdot ever get slashdotted" jokes have just proven to be very unfunny.
I used both and I got so fed up with urpmi I switched distros. The database gets outdated so fast and it has a lot less packages than the portage system. I ended up having to manually compile a lot of tarballs because I couldn't find rpms for new programs. I was stuck using kde 3.2 for a while. I love portage because I don't have to wait 3 months to get a new package, or not get it at all. Search through the portage database and see how many outdated packages you have. And for most programs, the compile time isn't that long. I wasted so much time hunting down depencies because mandrake didn't have current versions of libraries.
Hey, if you like it then god bless you. I just found it to be too limiting for my needs and gentoo works better for me. All I can say is that I tried both and I find portage to be a lot better.
I agreed with you about point #2 when I used Mandrake. It was slower than windows. I was using KDE because you know what? I like a full fledged window manager. I shouldn't have to settle for IceWM just to get the speed of windows xp. Anyway, I switched to gentoo and it's faster than windows. I don't know if it's because I compiled most of the software (I did a stage 3 and compiled from there) or because they structure it better, but it's a hell of a lot faster than mandrake.
Portage is the best thing since sliced bread. KDE looks beautiful, better than windows.
I think his frustrations must stem from RPM based distros like SuSE, Fedora, and Mandrake. RPMs were a good idea, but horrible in practice. Portage is still a tradeoff though. You'll get faster applications and it's easy to install them, but it can take a while to compile. I'll still go with portage any day over RPMs. I think those distros should ditch them because it's really hindering linux adoption.
...because I'm going to patent a system of connecting to a remote computer using an ethernet cable.
Alright, I'm joking, but I'm willing to bet the fee to obtain that patent that I could get it. Just because someone has a patent doesn't mean anything until it's proven in court that it's meaningful. However, I think this will slow adoption of linux and other OSS projects until managers can be sure that they won't be sued for running linux. I think it'll work like the SCO case where companies will think twice, delay switchovers, wait for SCO to look like idiots, and then consider switching again. This is SCO Effect Part 2 in my mind. I'm sure the courts will do the right thing and be fair to linux and OSS, but it's going to be a while until we have that guarentee.
Companies that got hit badly should sue him. Even if he doesn't have any money and lives in Germany, they could go after him to make an example to deter people from writing viruses in the future. Sure everyone can point the finger at microsoft, but this guy sat down and wrote a program specifically to piss people off and mess up their computer. If I own a bank and I get robbed because the vault was shoddy, I'd be pissed at the vault manufacturer and of course the person who robbed me.
I doubt companies that bring civil lawsuits would ever get a dime, but if that stops another sasser in the future, then it's money well spent.
This guy has a point. The shit we complain about microsoft we do here. We have our software preferences and we act as if they are the only solution. Microsoft is on top and we naturally want to take them down. I don't even know why the editors bother to put half the MS articles on the front page because it just ensues lots of flame wars and propaganda. Every time I see an MS expoit on the front page, I think to myself "It doesn't affect a lot of people here so why should they care." Pretend this was a site dedicated on Toyota and we constantly hear how Dodge cars are breaking down. Who would care?
This isn't meant to troll or be flame bait. I just want to say talking about the same old anti-whatever junk doesn't do any good.
I'm a college student studying computer engineering. I've been learning linux all summer long in the hopes of it helping me get a good job when I graduate. It's nice to know watching all that compiler output will lead to somewhere.
Although so I don't sound like an anti-linux hitler nazi, I am very happy with the switch to linux and specifically gentoo.
Ah damn, now I sound like a gentoo karma whore. Oh well. Show me the...high paying salary!
Good point. I think they've realized that laws could change in the future so this is why they're patenting everything. The reason these patents are so unfair is because small companies can't possibly afford the legal expense to fight a possible microsoft's patent of "a good way of doing things with a keyboard on a sunny day."
I don't mean to sound redundant, but that's the big problem with patents. Anyone can get them, it seems, but only the big shots can afford to fight and uphold them. In essense, they're buying the legal system.
When more computer novices entered the market for computers and software in the 90's and I suppose up until now, manuals were being used less and less percentage wise. I'm sure it's expensive for software developers to publish them and so if no one reads them, then why bother? The "for Dummies" series and other publishers took over because they could provide manuals for people's specific needs. If you had no clue what you were doing, there was a manual for that. If you were skilled, but wanted a good technical reference, you had your books. The old way of the "one level fits all" manual style became too obtuse for the customers.
The last manual I've read in a long long time was the Gentoo handbook. That was an example of the old style one level fits all, but they just happened to do a very good job and it worked. They combined good explainations along with technical information. For something like windows, you're dealing with system admins and complete idiots. There is no way Microsoft could make a manual to satisfy the needs of 90% of their customers, so they don't bother. Many other companies obviously do the same.
If you don't believe me that novices have difficulty with one level fits all technical manuals, print out some man pages and see how many people can understand them.
I'm still waiting for a feature
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Precisely. I've read the NT5/XP kernel was designed to be portable. However, there's a lot more to windows than just the kernel. I think the parent was referring to the other (insert very large number) lines of code that would have to be checked.
While people contend that linux has good 64 bit support, you have to remember that windows is designed and optimized for 32 bit x86. That's why microsoft compilers will beat gcc in terms of x86 speed. I think the Linux design for portability makes more sense in the long run, but if no one on ppc or alpha is interested in running windows, why would it make sense for microsoft in the short term to spend resources to worry about compatibility for them.
I think that computers, however, have become cheaper from manufacturing innovations. Computer parts now are unbelieveably cheap compared to 5 years ago. Manufacturing has also become a lot more competitive in Asia. Asia's growth has also done a lot to reduce prices.
This was really a good example of a toy with no practical future. I, like many others, were excited about the buildup and then it's debut. I'd say the cost definately prevented it's adoption.
It's funny to see it revolutionize polo though, I don't remember that in the things Kamen promised it would revolutionize.
In the real world it's more difficult...
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Sometimes telling people of the problem isn't enough for them to react to stop it. I don't know if this is the best way to make those in power aware this situation, but I'm sure it will be effective. The pictures I saw didn't look too bad, so quick action to stop this from happening in the future might be better than not making it public where it wouldn't get anyone's attention to stop it.
Slashdot Mirror
When I use mozilla or mozilla firefox I get the 503's but when I use IE I don't get them. Are you kidding me, Slashdot?
This has been driving me nuts for the past few days. Yeah, I'm an addict. I admit the problem. Withdrawal is no fun. All those "so why doesn't slashdot ever get slashdotted" jokes have just proven to be very unfunny.
I used both and I got so fed up with urpmi I switched distros. The database gets outdated so fast and it has a lot less packages than the portage system. I ended up having to manually compile a lot of tarballs because I couldn't find rpms for new programs. I was stuck using kde 3.2 for a while. I love portage because I don't have to wait 3 months to get a new package, or not get it at all. Search through the portage database and see how many outdated packages you have. And for most programs, the compile time isn't that long. I wasted so much time hunting down depencies because mandrake didn't have current versions of libraries.
Hey, if you like it then god bless you. I just found it to be too limiting for my needs and gentoo works better for me. All I can say is that I tried both and I find portage to be a lot better.
I agreed with you about point #2 when I used Mandrake. It was slower than windows. I was using KDE because you know what? I like a full fledged window manager. I shouldn't have to settle for IceWM just to get the speed of windows xp. Anyway, I switched to gentoo and it's faster than windows. I don't know if it's because I compiled most of the software (I did a stage 3 and compiled from there) or because they structure it better, but it's a hell of a lot faster than mandrake.
Portage is the best thing since sliced bread. KDE looks beautiful, better than windows.
I think his frustrations must stem from RPM based distros like SuSE, Fedora, and Mandrake. RPMs were a good idea, but horrible in practice. Portage is still a tradeoff though. You'll get faster applications and it's easy to install them, but it can take a while to compile. I'll still go with portage any day over RPMs. I think those distros should ditch them because it's really hindering linux adoption.
...because I'm going to patent a system of connecting to a remote computer using an ethernet cable.
Alright, I'm joking, but I'm willing to bet the fee to obtain that patent that I could get it. Just because someone has a patent doesn't mean anything until it's proven in court that it's meaningful. However, I think this will slow adoption of linux and other OSS projects until managers can be sure that they won't be sued for running linux. I think it'll work like the SCO case where companies will think twice, delay switchovers, wait for SCO to look like idiots, and then consider switching again. This is SCO Effect Part 2 in my mind. I'm sure the courts will do the right thing and be fair to linux and OSS, but it's going to be a while until we have that guarentee.
I don't thin SuSE itself is what's at stake here. The money in linux seems to be intelligent people consulting to help companies deploy it.
Companies that got hit badly should sue him. Even if he doesn't have any money and lives in Germany, they could go after him to make an example to deter people from writing viruses in the future. Sure everyone can point the finger at microsoft, but this guy sat down and wrote a program specifically to piss people off and mess up their computer. If I own a bank and I get robbed because the vault was shoddy, I'd be pissed at the vault manufacturer and of course the person who robbed me.
I doubt companies that bring civil lawsuits would ever get a dime, but if that stops another sasser in the future, then it's money well spent.
I think this is big news here is because everyone's going to get angry that linux was never considered a serious choice.
Or in our case, we chose not to install it by default. God I love gentoo.
This guy has a point. The shit we complain about microsoft we do here. We have our software preferences and we act as if they are the only solution. Microsoft is on top and we naturally want to take them down. I don't even know why the editors bother to put half the MS articles on the front page because it just ensues lots of flame wars and propaganda. Every time I see an MS expoit on the front page, I think to myself "It doesn't affect a lot of people here so why should they care." Pretend this was a site dedicated on Toyota and we constantly hear how Dodge cars are breaking down. Who would care?
This isn't meant to troll or be flame bait. I just want to say talking about the same old anti-whatever junk doesn't do any good.
Imagine a beowulf cluser of those
You know he's going to convince them not to switch to linux. First he's going to get on a plane...oh wait.
This sounds like an innovation above and beyond upping the clock speed and making a bigger heatsink. Take that pentium!
I'm a college student studying computer engineering. I've been learning linux all summer long in the hopes of it helping me get a good job when I graduate. It's nice to know watching all that compiler output will lead to somewhere.
Although so I don't sound like an anti-linux hitler nazi, I am very happy with the switch to linux and specifically gentoo.
Ah damn, now I sound like a gentoo karma whore. Oh well. Show me the...high paying salary!
Good point. I think they've realized that laws could change in the future so this is why they're patenting everything. The reason these patents are so unfair is because small companies can't possibly afford the legal expense to fight a possible microsoft's patent of "a good way of doing things with a keyboard on a sunny day."
I don't mean to sound redundant, but that's the big problem with patents. Anyone can get them, it seems, but only the big shots can afford to fight and uphold them. In essense, they're buying the legal system.
When more computer novices entered the market for computers and software in the 90's and I suppose up until now, manuals were being used less and less percentage wise. I'm sure it's expensive for software developers to publish them and so if no one reads them, then why bother? The "for Dummies" series and other publishers took over because they could provide manuals for people's specific needs. If you had no clue what you were doing, there was a manual for that. If you were skilled, but wanted a good technical reference, you had your books. The old way of the "one level fits all" manual style became too obtuse for the customers.
The last manual I've read in a long long time was the Gentoo handbook. That was an example of the old style one level fits all, but they just happened to do a very good job and it worked. They combined good explainations along with technical information. For something like windows, you're dealing with system admins and complete idiots. There is no way Microsoft could make a manual to satisfy the needs of 90% of their customers, so they don't bother. Many other companies obviously do the same.
If you don't believe me that novices have difficulty with one level fits all technical manuals, print out some man pages and see how many people can understand them.
...a GTK front end
Precisely. I've read the NT5/XP kernel was designed to be portable. However, there's a lot more to windows than just the kernel. I think the parent was referring to the other (insert very large number) lines of code that would have to be checked.
While people contend that linux has good 64 bit support, you have to remember that windows is designed and optimized for 32 bit x86. That's why microsoft compilers will beat gcc in terms of x86 speed. I think the Linux design for portability makes more sense in the long run, but if no one on ppc or alpha is interested in running windows, why would it make sense for microsoft in the short term to spend resources to worry about compatibility for them.
I think that computers, however, have become cheaper from manufacturing innovations. Computer parts now are unbelieveably cheap compared to 5 years ago. Manufacturing has also become a lot more competitive in Asia. Asia's growth has also done a lot to reduce prices.
This was really a good example of a toy with no practical future. I, like many others, were excited about the buildup and then it's debut. I'd say the cost definately prevented it's adoption.
It's funny to see it revolutionize polo though, I don't remember that in the things Kamen promised it would revolutionize.
And it keeps everyone in business and this wonderful cost saving technology costs more.
that pig and elephant DNA just won't splice
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Shhhhh! This is an ancient Chineese secret!
Sometimes telling people of the problem isn't enough for them to react to stop it. I don't know if this is the best way to make those in power aware this situation, but I'm sure it will be effective. The pictures I saw didn't look too bad, so quick action to stop this from happening in the future might be better than not making it public where it wouldn't get anyone's attention to stop it.