A few years ago DirecTV caused the famous "black sunday." It was intended to knock out people using hacked cards but ended up screwing over a lot of paying customers. What it did was screw up the cards so they wouldn't boot. It worked well and people either had to ditch the cards or buy a bootstrap. Still pretty shitty to their customers though to knock their service out.
Nice theory. Google investors aren't necessarily tech savy people (like on slashdot). They see a problem with a company and they get worried about buying shares in them. But I still can't figure out a way to make money off this. If you were going to short the stock and then pull this off, then you could make some money. Or pull this off and go long and hope things get better.
I think your idea of blackmail makes more sense though.
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Well, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I sincerely agree with the "gentoo zealots" then. I have tried other distros and I find gentoo to be the best for my needs. Before I used gentoo, I was in the same boat as you in that these people pissed me off when they'd rant and rave about gentoo. Don't worry, I'm not going to say "you should try it because I said so" I'm just going to say it IS all it's cracked up to be.
My feeling, with all due respect, are the opposite with regards to the system being difficult to get to work. I had more trouble on mandrake getting it to work properly. I see your point with the live cds, I couldn't get 2004.1 to work properly so I used 2004.0. I think the performace enhancement from compiling might be too small to notice. I think the real reason is after spending 36 hours compiling, most people just want to believe it's faster. I may be one of those people because my system feels a lot faster than from doing different cfflags and use flags. And as for xorg, when I installed the system, I installed xorg and then kde. I think if you just emerge kde, it will install xfree by default. Like you said, I don't care which x server I have as long as it works, I was just trying to plan for the future.
And with respect to your complaint that you get either an old or unstable system, I think that problem is a lot worse in other distros. Fedora is so bleeding edge it has so many problems while mandrake 10 ships with kde 3.2 and they don't offer updates for the free version (last I checked). I have a mixture of stable and arch packages so I'm in the middle on that. I haven't found it to be unstable though.
Hopefully this fixed the bugs in 2004.1
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I've had better luck with 2004.0 than 2004.1. In fact, I couldn't get 2004.1 to even boot the 2.6 kernel on the live CD. But of course the beauty of gentoo is that it doesn't matter since you can always update your system at any time.
I recommend people do a stage 3 and install the binary packages if you're not sure of what optimizations. Then play around with cfflags and use flags and then recompile everything later on. Doing a stage 1 as a beginner is a waste of time because later on you'll find some important use flag you missed that could give you some performance. Of course, if you know what you're doing, then go for a stage 1 if you have the time. It took me about 24 hours to go from stage 3 to a kde environment.
The reason I recommend gentoo to people, however, is portage. Anyone on mandrake, fedora, or suse have at one time or another had to deal with RPM hell. Portage solves all that. And while people complain how it takes so long, it's not time spent hunting for packages and tarballs like if you want to install a package that one of those above mentioned distros does not have yet. So for example, before you go to sleep, you type "emerge mozilla-firefox" and when you wake up, you have firefox and it took all of two seconds on your part. It won't take all night of course, I'm just using that example to show how while it takes longer to compile packages, it takes just two seconds of your time.
the poster's name is michael and from the blurb, I'm guessing this is michael moore.
Mod me off-topic, but I think it's ironic and therefore on-topic since this is a news website that has been bashing microsoft as if it were the bush administration.
...But how many people really care? Xfree and Xorg just provide the x server. All that means is just something for our nice window managers to connect to. You can use Gnome, kde, xfce, ice, and many other window managers to suit your taste and that's what matters.
Of course the backend is important, but to most it's not important enough to care about. The distros are converting because xfree killed itself because of the license issue and lack of development.
Hell, most linux users won't ever know they're running xorg until they have to edit their xorg.conf to get those NVIDIA drivers working.
I hope in the future xorg makes the x server faster, but I doubt it will be magically faster that the average user will notice.
Nope. The sky is black because there is no atmosphere, but the ground is bright and sunlit. Since the ground is so bright, the camera must be adjusted to correctly expose the ground and the astronaughts. If they adjusted the camera by exposing the film longer to catch the light from the stars, the ground would have appeared extremely bright and over exposed.
This is simple photography basics. You can try this out yourself by standing in a very brightly lit room at night time and then going outside. You'll notice all the stars are gone. But in a few moments, your eyes will adjust to let more light in and you'll see the stars. Now go into that very brightly lit room and you'll squint because you're "overexposing" your retinas.
I hope that clears it up. It's a common thing for hoax promoters to claim this is "proof," but they're just dumb asses
Looking how easy it is to set up simple home networking makes me jealous. Configuring an smb.conf file is a bitch and always has trouble. That's not to say samba is bad since they started from nothing. In fact it's just another example of how apple can make a product very usable when they have control of a protocol and api.
I'm a little confused as to what people are talking about. Maybe it's just ignorance of the situation on my part. I haven't had trouble with the 2.6 kernel. I've had problems with linux in general like NVIDIA drivers, applications closing for no reason, arts crashing, but I don't know if those are related to kernel 2.6.7 that I'm running or other buggy applications. If 2.4 works then why bother changing it. Hell, you can always go back if it doesn't work out. I guess it depends on what distro you're running that would make it easy or hard to switch kernels back and forth.
In a small way we already do with RPMs. When I see sites offering Red Hat, Suse, and Mandrake RPMs for the same version of the same software package I scratch my head thinking that this is bass ackwards in the.
Of course I use gentoo that has portage so I never have to worry about RPM hell anymore.
But "getting it out there" helps create all those patches. Would we be at 2.6.7 "stable" now if they hadn't released it. 2.4 is still there and still offered by the common distros. I run 2.6.7 on gentoo, but that's because I have this crazy desire to run bleeding edge software. If I was launching space shuttles, I wouldn't use it. Getting open source software out there for the community to work on is a fundamental reason why OSS has the potential to be better than close source software.
These aren't meant to replace PDA's or regular laptops. I haven't done the market research, but I'm sure there are niche markets for these. That would explain the higher price. I'm interested in seeing where this goes in the future.
Every new pc game has tougher requirements. And I think they downplayed these specs. I'm sure to run the game at an acceptable framerate requires a much more powerful processor and graphics card. I'd rather buy a keyboard and mouse for my xbox if I really felt I needed them rather than upgrading a computer just to play a few PC games.
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But aren't those for boxes on a local network? I think he's talking about the ip address given to say a household from their ISP.
For example, our cable provider gives us an IP address which I believe changes every time we reconnect (it's one way cable >:0 ) but each computer on the lan gets what is essentially a static ip based on which ethernet jack it's plugged into. Like the computer on port 1 of the router gets 192.168.1.101. It makes it easy to network, however they are the computer looks gets the address assigned to it every time it boots (or ipconfig or dhcpcd is run).
I think the idea of having static ip addresses would make getting on the net a lot more cumbersome. Another bad outcome would be the waste from old ip addresses people wouldn't use anymore. One can argue that IPv6 has so many possibly addresses this wouldn't be a problem, but they thought the same for IPv4.
You hit the nail on the head. I've read other posts on this topic saying they never remember microsoft as the low cost solution. They're wrong and you're right.
When microsoft entered the market, they were the low cost alternative to other operating systems. This is how they entered the market. What is "special" about microsoft is they gained market share and aggressively took over the desktop operating system market.
Currently they are probably not the low cost alternative. There are a million things to factor in, such as licensing and retraining costs, so it's unfair to say of OSS is cheaper or not as of now. I believe linux can be cheaper now, but it depends on a lot of factors and I don't want to get into that.
At one point, microsoft was the underdog. They could not have entered the market and gained such popularity without being the low cost solution. Microsoft is probably the low cost solution now because of the cost to retrain people to use linux.
Now don't flame me on that, please. I'm not saying it's hard to use. I and many others find linux very easy to use, but I'm a "computer person" and I know that a lot of people have difficulties with computers and they require a lot of training.
Gentoo is one of the best distros out there. I use it on x86 and it was easy to install and set up. I had more trouble on mandrake than on gentoo. The best thing it has going for it is portage. This system of automatically downloading and compiling software is only appriciated when you've gone through RPM hell or dependency hell when compiling from scratch. I was using mandrake previously, and this is definately faster. I encourage everyone who uses a distro like mandrake, fedora, or SuSE to look into gentoo.
I've only been using linux for a few months and gentoo for a week or so but I already see how well produced it is. I used to get annoyed at gentoo zealots, but I see what they were talking about.
Oh, and the compiling software isn't that bad. I've spent more time searching for packages and dependecies than typing "emerge k3b". Don't believe all the hype of course, but don't believe the FUD either. Gentoo is where it's at!
Now to make this a little more on-topic, I'm happy that gentoo is trying to make more headway into apple hardware. I think that this will only encourage apple to help and contribute to the OSS community even more. MacOS is probably the most refined modern operating system, but giving it a little more competition can't hurt.
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A few years ago DirecTV caused the famous "black sunday." It was intended to knock out people using hacked cards but ended up screwing over a lot of paying customers. What it did was screw up the cards so they wouldn't boot. It worked well and people either had to ditch the cards or buy a bootstrap. Still pretty shitty to their customers though to knock their service out.
Nice theory. Google investors aren't necessarily tech savy people (like on slashdot). They see a problem with a company and they get worried about buying shares in them. But I still can't figure out a way to make money off this. If you were going to short the stock and then pull this off, then you could make some money. Or pull this off and go long and hope things get better.
I think your idea of blackmail makes more sense though.
Well, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I sincerely agree with the "gentoo zealots" then. I have tried other distros and I find gentoo to be the best for my needs. Before I used gentoo, I was in the same boat as you in that these people pissed me off when they'd rant and rave about gentoo. Don't worry, I'm not going to say "you should try it because I said so" I'm just going to say it IS all it's cracked up to be.
My feeling, with all due respect, are the opposite with regards to the system being difficult to get to work. I had more trouble on mandrake getting it to work properly. I see your point with the live cds, I couldn't get 2004.1 to work properly so I used 2004.0. I think the performace enhancement from compiling might be too small to notice. I think the real reason is after spending 36 hours compiling, most people just want to believe it's faster. I may be one of those people because my system feels a lot faster than from doing different cfflags and use flags. And as for xorg, when I installed the system, I installed xorg and then kde. I think if you just emerge kde, it will install xfree by default. Like you said, I don't care which x server I have as long as it works, I was just trying to plan for the future.
And with respect to your complaint that you get either an old or unstable system, I think that problem is a lot worse in other distros. Fedora is so bleeding edge it has so many problems while mandrake 10 ships with kde 3.2 and they don't offer updates for the free version (last I checked). I have a mixture of stable and arch packages so I'm in the middle on that. I haven't found it to be unstable though.
I've had better luck with 2004.0 than 2004.1. In fact, I couldn't get 2004.1 to even boot the 2.6 kernel on the live CD. But of course the beauty of gentoo is that it doesn't matter since you can always update your system at any time.
I recommend people do a stage 3 and install the binary packages if you're not sure of what optimizations. Then play around with cfflags and use flags and then recompile everything later on. Doing a stage 1 as a beginner is a waste of time because later on you'll find some important use flag you missed that could give you some performance. Of course, if you know what you're doing, then go for a stage 1 if you have the time. It took me about 24 hours to go from stage 3 to a kde environment.
The reason I recommend gentoo to people, however, is portage. Anyone on mandrake, fedora, or suse have at one time or another had to deal with RPM hell. Portage solves all that. And while people complain how it takes so long, it's not time spent hunting for packages and tarballs like if you want to install a package that one of those above mentioned distros does not have yet. So for example, before you go to sleep, you type "emerge mozilla-firefox" and when you wake up, you have firefox and it took all of two seconds on your part. It won't take all night of course, I'm just using that example to show how while it takes longer to compile packages, it takes just two seconds of your time.
the poster's name is michael and from the blurb, I'm guessing this is michael moore.
Mod me off-topic, but I think it's ironic and therefore on-topic since this is a news website that has been bashing microsoft as if it were the bush administration.
You just said "can you provide an example" and "windows" in the same sentence. That's a new concept here.
...But how many people really care? Xfree and Xorg just provide the x server. All that means is just something for our nice window managers to connect to. You can use Gnome, kde, xfce, ice, and many other window managers to suit your taste and that's what matters.
Of course the backend is important, but to most it's not important enough to care about. The distros are converting because xfree killed itself because of the license issue and lack of development.
Hell, most linux users won't ever know they're running xorg until they have to edit their xorg.conf to get those NVIDIA drivers working.
I hope in the future xorg makes the x server faster, but I doubt it will be magically faster that the average user will notice.
Obviously!
Nope. The sky is black because there is no atmosphere, but the ground is bright and sunlit. Since the ground is so bright, the camera must be adjusted to correctly expose the ground and the astronaughts. If they adjusted the camera by exposing the film longer to catch the light from the stars, the ground would have appeared extremely bright and over exposed.
This is simple photography basics. You can try this out yourself by standing in a very brightly lit room at night time and then going outside. You'll notice all the stars are gone. But in a few moments, your eyes will adjust to let more light in and you'll see the stars. Now go into that very brightly lit room and you'll squint because you're "overexposing" your retinas.
I hope that clears it up. It's a common thing for hoax promoters to claim this is "proof," but they're just dumb asses
Looking how easy it is to set up simple home networking makes me jealous. Configuring an smb.conf file is a bitch and always has trouble. That's not to say samba is bad since they started from nothing. In fact it's just another example of how apple can make a product very usable when they have control of a protocol and api.
Yes, so switch to BSD as soon as you can before it dies completely :)
I'm a little confused as to what people are talking about. Maybe it's just ignorance of the situation on my part. I haven't had trouble with the 2.6 kernel. I've had problems with linux in general like NVIDIA drivers, applications closing for no reason, arts crashing, but I don't know if those are related to kernel 2.6.7 that I'm running or other buggy applications. If 2.4 works then why bother changing it. Hell, you can always go back if it doesn't work out. I guess it depends on what distro you're running that would make it easy or hard to switch kernels back and forth.
Good luck nonetheless
In a small way we already do with RPMs. When I see sites offering Red Hat, Suse, and Mandrake RPMs for the same version of the same software package I scratch my head thinking that this is bass ackwards in the.
Of course I use gentoo that has portage so I never have to worry about RPM hell anymore.
But "getting it out there" helps create all those patches. Would we be at 2.6.7 "stable" now if they hadn't released it. 2.4 is still there and still offered by the common distros. I run 2.6.7 on gentoo, but that's because I have this crazy desire to run bleeding edge software. If I was launching space shuttles, I wouldn't use it. Getting open source software out there for the community to work on is a fundamental reason why OSS has the potential to be better than close source software.
These aren't meant to replace PDA's or regular laptops. I haven't done the market research, but I'm sure there are niche markets for these. That would explain the higher price. I'm interested in seeing where this goes in the future.
Just don't toast to the Burnt Sienna setting, I own the patent for that.
-Darl
I can't wait for the sequel of "Big" to see this in action.
This isn't full circle. This is about trying to make things easier and more profitable.
What does Santa have to say about this?
And this is why I have an Xbox!
Every new pc game has tougher requirements. And I think they downplayed these specs. I'm sure to run the game at an acceptable framerate requires a much more powerful processor and graphics card. I'd rather buy a keyboard and mouse for my xbox if I really felt I needed them rather than upgrading a computer just to play a few PC games.
But aren't those for boxes on a local network? I think he's talking about the ip address given to say a household from their ISP.
For example, our cable provider gives us an IP address which I believe changes every time we reconnect (it's one way cable >:0 ) but each computer on the lan gets what is essentially a static ip based on which ethernet jack it's plugged into. Like the computer on port 1 of the router gets 192.168.1.101. It makes it easy to network, however they are the computer looks gets the address assigned to it every time it boots (or ipconfig or dhcpcd is run).
I think the idea of having static ip addresses would make getting on the net a lot more cumbersome. Another bad outcome would be the waste from old ip addresses people wouldn't use anymore. One can argue that IPv6 has so many possibly addresses this wouldn't be a problem, but they thought the same for IPv4.
if they just called this MyNewspaper.NET this would never have been news. Hell, they could have blamed it on a "routine update."
You hit the nail on the head. I've read other posts on this topic saying they never remember microsoft as the low cost solution. They're wrong and you're right.
When microsoft entered the market, they were the low cost alternative to other operating systems. This is how they entered the market. What is "special" about microsoft is they gained market share and aggressively took over the desktop operating system market.
Currently they are probably not the low cost alternative. There are a million things to factor in, such as licensing and retraining costs, so it's unfair to say of OSS is cheaper or not as of now. I believe linux can be cheaper now, but it depends on a lot of factors and I don't want to get into that.
At one point, microsoft was the underdog. They could not have entered the market and gained such popularity without being the low cost solution. Microsoft is probably the low cost solution now because of the cost to retrain people to use linux.
Now don't flame me on that, please. I'm not saying it's hard to use. I and many others find linux very easy to use, but I'm a "computer person" and I know that a lot of people have difficulties with computers and they require a lot of training.
Gentoo is one of the best distros out there. I use it on x86 and it was easy to install and set up. I had more trouble on mandrake than on gentoo. The best thing it has going for it is portage. This system of automatically downloading and compiling software is only appriciated when you've gone through RPM hell or dependency hell when compiling from scratch. I was using mandrake previously, and this is definately faster. I encourage everyone who uses a distro like mandrake, fedora, or SuSE to look into gentoo.
I've only been using linux for a few months and gentoo for a week or so but I already see how well produced it is. I used to get annoyed at gentoo zealots, but I see what they were talking about.
Oh, and the compiling software isn't that bad. I've spent more time searching for packages and dependecies than typing "emerge k3b". Don't believe all the hype of course, but don't believe the FUD either. Gentoo is where it's at!
Now to make this a little more on-topic, I'm happy that gentoo is trying to make more headway into apple hardware. I think that this will only encourage apple to help and contribute to the OSS community even more. MacOS is probably the most refined modern operating system, but giving it a little more competition can't hurt.