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140" Monitor Demonstration At Purdue

michaelpapet.com writes "Edward J. Delp, a researcher at Purdue University is working with Philips to make a monster 140" monitor using 4 projectors on a single screen. Article claims it would be good for National Security... I dunno, I see this being the only way to satisfy 'big screen envy.'"

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  1. Life Size P0rn!! by dsbaha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Life size P0rn, here I COME!!!
    wait, that didn't sound right.

    1. Re:Life Size P0rn!! by kn0tw0rk · · Score: 1

      An even better thing is this thing called REAL-EYE-TV, with stereo vision, changable POV, scratch'n'sniff and full sensory emersion.

      But on a slightly more serious note, what I'd use something like that for is wargaming or rts. Have it set up like a table, it could display the entire map, wireless controls, put an array of speakers beneath it for localised sound effects. Drool.

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    2. Re:Life Size P0rn!! by wayward · · Score: 1

      If we don't have the biggest TV screens for p0rn, the terrorists have already won!

    3. Re:Life Size P0rn!! by Jorkapp · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...and I for one, welcome our head-sized nipple overlords.

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    4. Re:Life Size P0rn!! by jacoby · · Score: 1

      I know Ed Delp.

      I used to work for his wife.

      I've met his grad students.

      One of his research project is machine image analysis, meaning, in part, "can the computer know this is a picture of a nekkid lady without some guy telling it?"

      You are not the first to think "Life Size Porn" when hearing about this monitor. I can promise you that.

  2. gaming by Apage43 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have got to play Half-Life on this thing...

    1. Re:gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doom 3 would be better, it just came right on time!

    2. Re:gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      damn think of the video card you'd need to run 4 screens on doom3 at a decent resolution.

      I'd think you'd need to get 2 boxes and write a camrea mod for Doom3.

    3. Re:gaming by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, flight sims on a big screen are very cool, too.

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    4. Re:gaming by Raynach · · Score: 1
      Actually, for the Envision Center tour, they show a 3D plane flying in OSG on the 12-tile. I've also heard of them running the Quake 3 engine on the "Cave" display

      Very cool stuff.

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    5. Re:gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: What is a " camrea "?

      A: A wet dream by a wanna-be geek?

  3. That's not a monitor... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a projection screen. You could always make those as big as you want based on pure optics.

    However, that's not the tech advance anyway. What they're really showing off is the way to get multiple projectors to work together so that you end up with four times the projection area and also four times the resolution while using relatively off-the-shelf projectors, and avoiding the seam effect that would happen if you tried to do this yourself.

    1. Re:That's not a monitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      yeah, so its not really as cool as Frank's 2000 inch TV.

    2. Re:That's not a monitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why... it's almost like Xinerama. Big wow.

      I do this all the time for AccessGrid work.

    3. Re:That's not a monitor... by jest3r · · Score: 3, Interesting

      why is tiling 4 projectors together newsworthy?

      i can tile 2 projectors together with my matrox dualhead display .. 4 doesn't seem to far fetched or newsworthy really.

      its like that guy who stitched together 190+ pictures from his digital camera and claims he broke the 1 gigapixel barrier ...

      taking pieces of smaller images - whether they be projected or not - and stitching them together into someting bigger has been commonplace on the backs of trading cards for years ..

    4. Re:That's not a monitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      this is nothing new. This type of thing has been done a several Universities before, and numerous national labs.

      e.g.:

      http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/stc/Projects/pixe lf lex.html
      http://www.cs.princeton.edu/omnimedia/
      http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~judson/projects/activ emural/images.html ...

    5. Re:That's not a monitor... by tabacco · · Score: 1

      The university I work for just bought a couple of Panasonic DLP projectors that support image blending. Big deal. You can do this with off-the-shelf components, so I'm not sure why it's such a big deal.

    6. Re:That's not a monitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't this tech covered earlier by a lab that had set up *16* projectors to display a high resolution image?

    7. Re:That's not a monitor... by jinzumkei · · Score: 1

      I dont think you get it. This is supposed to be aligned via software making it about 126487612834687913x easier. I mean even 4 doesnt seem bad but what if you had 24?

    8. Re:That's not a monitor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the article states that they aligned 4 projectors ... how difficult is that really??? and you can see overlap / blurry seams in the photo they provide so it cant be much more than actual physical adjustments ...

    9. Re:That's not a monitor... by ineffible · · Score: 1

      If you are at LinuxWorld this week, check out the
      Oracle dome. It features a similar technology,
      but for surround imagery (www.obscuradigital.com).
      At least 6 projectors, each at 1024x768.
      But with the amount of overlap you get on a dome
      screen, it's only a few megapixels.

    10. Re:That's not a monitor... by mwood · · Score: 1

      Exactly. You could conceivably make a 140-*mile* display with existing technology, but if each pixel is the size of a family farm then what's the point? We don't need bigger displays so much as we need displays that can show more information at once.

      I found the article viciously tantalizing. "High resolution...high resolution...high resolution." No numbers. If I'm gonna pay for a wall-sized display, I want to be able to put twenty pages of text and a couple of blueprints up all at the same time without eyestrain or overcrowding.

  4. Running windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The new displays could be used for future "digital cinema," in which films are stored entirely on a computer's hard drive and then projected onto a large screen for audiences."
    Lets just hope it won't run windows. I would hate for it to bluescreen halfway through my movie.

    1. Re:Running windows? by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      Less blinding than the current whitescreen effect during a film projector crash, though ...

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  5. "Big Screen Envy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I see this being the only way to satisfy 'big screen envy.'"

    Until they demonstrate the 160" model...

  6. DPI by Apage43 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Okay, it's a BIG projection screen, but, what kinda DPI does it get?
    I've seen these things that 'Make a big-screen dvd player', that are simply a lens you put over a portable dvd player's LCD screen, which doesn't have high enough DPI to account for such a big screen. is it extra blocky or is it at like 1200000x102400000 resolution? (And if so how many FPS can it get on... say, anything?

    1. Re:DPI by stripmarkup · · Score: 3, Informative

      The article sheds no light on this:

      Innovative software allows the four separate projections to be blended together so that no seams are seen between adjacent segments, joining the four images into a single picture with higher resolution than regular television sets.

      Wow! Higher resolution than regular television sets. Even 800x600 would qualify.

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    2. Re:DPI by Pieroxy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, even from the story you can get some clues. This is aggregating 4 projectors. So I'd say that a hi-end projector being approx 1920x1024, the final resolution must be around 3840x2048, which is more than enough to watch a video - since that's what you're referring to.

      Think that the first digital theater projector that TI demoed in france was running at 1280x960 (not sure about the vert. reso.) pixels.

      So I guess there's no need to rant over there after all.

    3. Re:DPI by Methuseus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a problem there. The story seems to say that the projectors used are regular, off the shelf products. In that case the likely resolution each would have would be 1024x768, or even as low as 800x600. The 1920x1024 that you are quoting is an extremely high resolution for the average projector.

      They also state that it has "higher resolution than a TV". That merely means that the image, as a whole, is at least 800x600. That's not very high res. Also, the pictures they display are reminiscent of a projector I used at 1024x768 to create an 11 foot diagonal screen, so it could be made up of 4 800x600 displays rather easily and still have good resolution.

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    4. Re:DPI by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      Horizontally, television has an analogue signal. How would you quantify that?

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    5. Re:DPI by wfberg · · Score: 1

      Horizontally, television has an analogue signal. How would you quantify that?

      I'd quantify it as 720 luminance samples and 360 chrominance samples per line; effectively 720 pixels with 4:2:2 sampling. Perfectly in line with CCIR-601, or as its known, ITU-R Recommendation BT.601-5 (10/95) (AKA "broadcast quality")

      (Note that "analogue" does not imply infinite definition; CCIR-604 specifies certain bandwidth and signal-to-noise requirements, including maximum deviation; digital source material is better quality than the analogue broadcast; of course, with NTSC, this isn't hard.)

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    6. Re:DPI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, with the bandwidth of the signal and some math?

    7. Re:DPI by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      how is 4:2:2 different from 2:1:1?

      Just curious. Not the first place I've seen the 4:2:2 used.

    8. Re:DPI by chainsaw1 · · Score: 1

      I think they mean "higher resolution than a TV" for the same size patch of space. So, your TV may get, say 640x480 on it's 24" screen (about 13.6" x 10.2" square )

      Thus, for 144" ( about 115" x 86.4" square ), it would have a total resolution for the entire surface about 5412 x 4065 resolution (for equal to a TV with a 24" screen)

      I had the math relation on here, but /. fubar'd it

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    9. Re:DPI by wfberg · · Score: 1

      According to reliable sources (an anonymous forum post from google) "Each number is a multiplier used on a basic frequency of 3.375 MHz" - it relates to the analogue bandwidth (i.e. information) stored per pixel. In digital formats the representation may be quite different; in YUV formats all values are represented with 8 bits, but 2 pixels share the U and V information (it's only sampled once).

      Here is some linkange.

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  7. National Security is an overused buzzword... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This tech is only being billed for a national security use because that's where the government wasteful spending is these days. If everybody was concerned about hurricanes for some strange reason, then this tech would be sold for its weather uses.

    This monitor can only display a super-high-res security camera image if a super-high-res camera was installed too... and that resolution on a map would be wasted if they don't have a different datapoint for each pixel. I'm putting this one under "cool tech without any real use".

    1. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only use i can possibly see is in viewing satellite and aerial photographs. Those tend to end up being massive images (upwards of several gigs), often at fairly high resolution. The problem you have is that if you zoom in close enough to have a good look at a car, a building or even a person you can then only see two feet surrounding it. A really big, really high res screen could at least make dealing with massive images a little more comfortable.

    2. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by toetagger1 · · Score: 1

      Ok, get a clue!

      Next thing you should do, is take a marketing claass. Its so obvious they are trying to attract investors, and if there is ANY chance at all that they get government funding for their project, they would be stupid not to persue it. That is also the reason why "national Security" is an overused buzzword, as you put it.

      1. Come up with some useless idea
      2. Examin government for current spending pattern
      3. Listen to CNN for 5 minutes to find buzzword
      4. ...
      5. Profit!
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    3. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      nope, the government wasteful spending is still the DoD. I work at the Indiana University School of Medicine, which recently received a $10,000,000 grant from the US Army to fund a research center for breast cancer therapy and a $90,000 grant (same link above) from the DoD to study proteins and how they relate to breast cancer.

      Now, breast cancer is a worthy cause for research dollars and all, but shouldn't the National Institutes of Health (NIH) be funding these things? Why is the DoD involved in something like this? If they're going to be supporting medical research, one would think it would be for smallpox or something like that.

      (Obviously posting anon to protect me.)

    4. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by Raynach · · Score: 1
      No, the reason that it is being billed as good for homeland security is because of the event that the screen was used for. Measured Response 2004 used the 140" Thomson screen for some data perceptualization, and also utilized the Purdue Envision Center for visualizations and user interaction in the event. In the Envision Center, there's a 12-panel display that was used as the "Central Command" center, but the screen can also serve up one big image. It's powered the same way the Thomson screen is, with a projector that can also output in stereo (put on some polarized glasses and it looks 3D).

      I had a lot of fun working with this stuff and seeing my work displayed on it, because I work as a java developer in the Purdue Homeland Security Institute, but to be frank, these things were just used for an "oooo, pretty" factor. I suppose a large screen can be used in some kind of remote sensing, but it's not really necessary. One complaint that I had about this event was that we need to worry less about the "pretty" factor and more about the engines driving the simulations. The visualizations are always nice, but they aren't always needed.

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    5. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by Brockeolus · · Score: 1

      One would think that national security concerns would result in funding for development of small screens (for use by soldiers in night vision devices, HUDs, etc.), not incredibly large ones.

    6. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by puhuri · · Score: 1

      I think this is more applicable to national security visionares.

    7. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      They don't want it for security camera footage. They want it for satellite imagry. "Homeland security" is a bit of a misnomer. Intelligence agencies would be a better fit. Basicly anywhere where you have digital images of insane resolution.

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    8. Re:National Security is an overused buzzword... by mwood · · Score: 1

      Wanna bet there wasn't somebody from NOAA in the back, jumping up and down and trying to ask a question? Really high-res displays have a lot of uses.

      Many of those uses aren't just for regurgitating an image taken in by a camera, either. What if you had a dense network of billions of simple, cheap sensors blanketing an area (the entire Atlantic Ocean, say, or all of southeastern Afghanistan in a grid of one-meter cells) and needed to visualize the patterns they are returning? Those little postage-stamp 2048x1532 monitors would be useless.

      What if you had a trillion measurements from some high-energy physics experiment and wanted to look at them all at once without any loss of detail? Would that help? It's hard to say for sure until someone tries it.

      Most of the exciting uses for something like this involve things you *can't* see just by looking.

  8. Still not as big as Frank's 2000" TV! by catscan2000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I'm gonna get one of my own real soon.

    It's like
    having a drive-in movie
    in your own living room."

    I couldn't resist ;-).

    (Weird Al reference)

    1. Re:Still not as big as Frank's 2000" TV! by Zeinfeld · · Score: 1
      I'm gonna get one of my own real soon.

      Before I finished reading the headline to her my wife interrupted to say 'you are not getting one.'

      140" is only 12' which in widescreen would make it 10.6' by 5' which is not all that large for a cinema screen. There have been digital projectors that size for ages. But I suspect that the screen is actually academy ratio so it would be 9' x 7'

      Yes this hack is cheaper but I saw it 7 years ago when Tom Knight did it at MIT.

      As far as the resolution goes anything over about 3000x2000 would be wasted. You can't sit very close to a screen that size.

      I would be more interested in something like a wrap arround screen for the total immersion experience. Should be possible to do a 180 degree screen well with 4 projectors.

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    2. Re:Still not as big as Frank's 2000" TV! by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Actually it's a 1.75:1 ratio (close to HD) image which is 11.7' wide and 6.7' high, acording to the article, resulting in a 13.4' (161") diagonal measurement. Actually, that's awfully close to one fo the standard DaLite sizes for HDTV, which is 78x139 (159") and can be bought off the shelf for a couple hundred dollars.

      As I pointed out somewhere else, 2048x1536 7000 lumen projectors already exist (JVC LCOS), without any special research. I agree with you that there is a limit to the usable resolution.

      A practical application for hi res would be for CAD work if you could put a high resultion monitor & digitizer in a light-box like contraption (say, 30"x48"). At 150dpi (4500x7200) and using four greyscales, full sze B&W architectural drawings could be rendered at apparent full resolution. The downside, apart from initial cost, would be that lamp lives are generally around 2000 hrs (give or take 50%), which means dropping another $400-$1000 per man-year of desktop time.

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    3. Re:Still not as big as Frank's 2000" TV! by mwood · · Score: 1

      You may not be able to profitably sit close to a huge screen, but you sure can stand back and survey, then walk right up to that gigapixel display and examine an interesting bit closely. This is for *work*, not play. Forget Frank.

  9. Monster Blue Screen of Death by otisg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine The Blue Screen of Death on that! Scary...

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    1. Re:Monster Blue Screen of Death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Like you'd run Windows on that?

      Get the hell out! Your geek membership is revoked!

    2. Re:Monster Blue Screen of Death by InfiniteWisdom · · Score: 1

      Whats so scary about that? Just move the mouse and it goes away?

    3. Re:Monster Blue Screen of Death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's so scary about the BSOD? I find that particular shade of blue quite soothing and, honestly, I'd be scared if I didn't get a BSOD on a regular basis (when using Windows of course, if I got the BSOD using MacOS (or that amateurish one), then I'd really be scared).

  10. Even Bigger by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out Panoram Technologies for established systems. I'm pretty sure they cater to military applications.

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    1. Re:Even Bigger by cft_128 · · Score: 1

      I looked at a link at Panoram Technologies for the WNBC newsroom backdrop. After reading about a $450,000 system to put a 26 foot screen behind the news desk I was left wondering why didn't they just use a high quality chromakey or bluescreen system? They are getting much better at it now: almost completely seamless and it would be much more flexible.

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  11. nit picking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just to be a bit of a bitch here... can anyone else see the seams these four projectors cause? because i sure as hell can.

    1. Re:nit picking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      More than seams what I see is several regoins where there is ghosting, which are probably multiple projector overlap regions. But still that's really good color and luminance matching they've got going there. Way better than what you'll get if you just take a few projectors out of the box and project them up on a wall side-by-side.

    2. Re:nit picking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and now thanks to the kind poster below you can see exactly what the seams normally look like in these multi-projector systems.

      So, yeh, maybe you can see a little bit of seam in the Purdue system, but it sure looks a whole heck of a lot better to me.

  12. Why should I be impressed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Multi-projector, seemless projection is standard equipment in scientific visualization labs. What's special about this one?

  13. Big whoop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take four projectors and divide the desktop amongst them while feathering the edges.

    Quick, patent that bad boy before Microsoft beats you to it!

  14. National Security by Daniel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Article claims it would be good for National Security... I dunno

    What you fail to realize is that it's spelled "National Security", but it's pronounced "GRANT FUNDING".

    Daniel

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    1. Re:National Security by Hatta · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ladies and Gentlemen, we must not have a Monitor Gap!

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  15. Kind of like this one here... by mikevdg · · Score: 3, Informative

    Same thing again, but with twice as many projectors:



    http://www.cs.vu. nl/pics/F3_big.jpg

    1. Re:Kind of like this one here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And twice as many seams too.

      I think the thing Purdue is actually touting is that they've got a good solution for the seam problem. I don't think there are many research institutions at this point who haven't slapped together their own grid-o-projectors just for the hell of it.

    2. Re:Kind of like this one here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Princeton has a 6000x3000 resolution on an 8' by 18' display using 8 rear projectors:

      http://www.cs.princeton.edu/omnimedia/

    3. Re:Kind of like this one here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      And UNC has PixelFlex, "a multi-projector display system that combines
      multiple roughly aligned projectors into a unified high-resolution
      display."

    4. Re:Kind of like this one here... by mikevdg · · Score: 1

      Oh, and a couple of features of this screen that I should probably mention: Its called the "ICWall" (www.icwall.nl, which is broken), and it actually has 16 projectors.

      It does proper 3D - the screen is polerized, and students can wear polerized glasses to get the full 3-D experience. Behind the scenes is a cluster of Linux boxen, one for each pair of projectors, and OpenGL stuff is done by sending the display lists over the network in real-time.

      The screen is also hooked up to the 400-processor DAS-2 cluster upstairs through a very fast network connection.

      And you can play Quake on it :-). I reckon it won't take them long to get Doom 3 rigged up on it :-P.

    5. Re:Kind of like this one here... by metachor · · Score: 1

      What are they learning in that class?! There are more projectors in that classroom than people (8:5), and everyone looks bored out of their skulls. Including the teacher (or at least a little confused).

  16. Reverse engineering for dummies by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This particular display also includes a computer, which runs an algorithm that gets rid of overlapping regions between adjacent projections, eliminating the seams in the process.

    There you go. Take four projectors and let them overlap a little. Then, you pixel-row by row eliminate the overlaps by not moving the projectors, but simply feeding the projector black lines in the places where you don't want it to do any work. When you've assured that there's no point on the screen being served by two projectors, you've also lowered the seam area to less than the width of a pixel on the screen.

    1. Re:Reverse engineering for dummies by morcheeba · · Score: 1

      hook this up to a little webcam and go over the seams slowly, and the computer can do all the adjustment automatically... it can recogonize what part of the seam it's on by projecting a test pattern, then it can figure out the overlap. It might even then paint the de-seamed area a different color so you know that part is done.

      I wonder if they do what ink jet printers do... not make it an absolute seam, but a blurry seam, slowly blending from one projector to another over the space of a few inches. The article says both "blended" and "get rid of overlap," which seem to be opposites to me.

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    9. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why has this been modded up? This is clearly offtopic.

      Probably because everyone is getting sick of the 503 errors and not getting any explanation. I'm posting this anonymously because I haven't been able to get in while logged in at all today.

    10. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Viceice · · Score: 1

      I realised that dispite getting a string of 503 errors while trying to load thr front page, if you try accsing an article directly, it works.

      Seems the errors only affects the front page.

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    11. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also: please copy and paste this post to every other person that has whined about slashdot, and has not donated money or clicked on ads!

      So you think throwing more money at a bug is all that's needed to fix it? You must be a PHB.

    12. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Kupek · · Score: 1

      I'd like to know too, but you and I don't have the right to "demand" anything. At least I don't - I don't pay to read this site.

    13. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Omestes · · Score: 1

      /. got /.ed... ain't it cute...

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    14. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite true... When I go to check messages it doesn't load anything but the side-bar most time, unless I reload over and over. There is a text alignment issue. And sometimes it will 503 me on a story.

    15. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by AliasTheRoot · · Score: 1

      They implemented some new features in the interests of National Security

    16. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by fgb · · Score: 1

      I have been unable to get in using http://slashdot.org/ for at least three days now. However, if I use the IP address http://66.35.250.150/ I have no problems at all.

    17. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by chaosmage42 · · Score: 1

      It seems to affect all the sections' main pages, not just the general front page. At least that's what I've been getting.

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    18. Re:Attention Slashdot Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're only off topic becaue the editors refuse to ever have an open discussion about Slashdot itself. I think once a month they should have such a forum or at least have the balls to admit they are currently have problems (beyond the ugly colors).

  18. Ah.... by b0lt · · Score: 1

    I just realized some potential usage for this. This is sorta like a projector version of NASA's Mission Control screen. Could they be invisioning a portable SAC "mobile base" in case the country is attacked and Camp David was not secure?

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  19. Distortion is visible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...about a foot above the presenter's arm. Is that the projectors "no-seam" seam or is it just an imperfect image?

  20. What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Current high-end projectors can already output 1920x1080p (P is for progressive as opposed to interlaced) and they achieve this resolution using normal TV (480i) or DVD (480p) or even HDTV resolutions(1080i or 720p) by using scalars. Unless you plan to run a really large desktop for computer-type material such as video camera monitors or any applications, this is useless because all source material is better viewed via a scalar into a very large projector. In the past, CRT projectors used to be stacked to get more light output for larger screens. Basically is was two projectors hitting the same screen with the same image so only light output would go up. These setups were tricky but have been used for decades. Th

    1. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is that current projectors max out at a certain number of lumens; there is only so much light you can get from effectively a point source bulb. It is the projector brightness, not the number of pixels, that is the limiting factor on projecting larger images. Yes, you could certainly make a DLP with 4 times the resolution of the current ones; TI is already working on that, but getting very poor yields.

  21. Poor Technology by usefool · · Score: 1

    Why would that waste money on such money while they can spend funds on building a high speed agile space shuttle so that whoever is interested in Homeland Security can jump onto one of these ships, and look at any surface on earth.

    If they need a bigger area, just steer the ship toward the space a little, if they want a close-up, just descend as needed.

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  22. Ladies and gentleman, this... is CINERAMA! by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    And if you are not old enough to recognize that, and do not even know who Lowell Thomas was, take a look at this site.

  23. You can kinda sorta do this in your house by ferrocene · · Score: 1

    Get a dual-head videocard, IE Matrox or ATI to name a few, and hook up two XGA 4/3 projectors up to it. Line up carefully, and you can watch an anamorphic 2.35:1 dvd @ 1805x768 with black bars on the SIDES instead of the top. Pretty sweet.

    Doesn't seem hard to do four this way. Their setup is rear projection, which is a bit harder of course. And the article says it's running near 16/9 aspect.

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    1. Re:You can kinda sorta do this in your house by LiMikeTnux · · Score: 0

      Most folk'll never lose a toe, and then again some folk'll...
      like cletus the slack jawed yokel!

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  24. National security, indeed by smcg · · Score: 2, Funny

    A screen that doesn't allow private viewing for up to a mile away...
    ... which is still more secure than any unpatched Windows installation.

    1. Re:National security, indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This does allow private viewing... you just have to view the picture in a room with no windows... a very LARGE room with no windows!

    2. Re:National security, indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, get rid of windows.
      It's causing all sorts of problems with viruses, too.
      I don't want windows in any size room.

      There, I've bashed windows, do I get mod points, now?

  25. We shal prevail... by John+Whorfin · · Score: 1

    Good for nat'l security?!? You mean like a really big screen where they can tell us everything is fine and that we will blind the terrorists with their own confusion?

    Just one question, is the chick with the hammer seeing anoyne?

    1. Re:We shal prevail... by Methuseus · · Score: 1

      What chick with the hammer? I think I missed something in the article or I missed the joke....

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    2. Re:We shal prevail... by cranos · · Score: 1

      Its a reference to the first Apple ads during the Super Bowl, had a room full of corperate type zombies staring at a large screen and a punk chick with a large hammer running through and smashing the screen.

    3. Re:We shal prevail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Apple "1984" commercial announcing the Macintosh for the first time, there was a big "big brother" on a giant monitor speaking to a crowd.

      Then a woman ran in and chucked a sledge hammer at the giant monitor and thus the masses were freed to... um use Macintoshed I guess.

      "On January 4th, you'll see why 1984 won't be like '1984'."

  26. Damnit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I just spend all this money on Apples' 30" HD Cinema Display!

  27. Re:Waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not a corp, its a university...

  28. For national security, the obvious solution is: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need to appoint a Large Display Czar! This will be a single contact in the government where the president can go to quickly get up to speed on Large Displays over 120" in size.

  29. good for National Security. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ya ! Everything that sell at high cost is good for national security !

    Remember after 9/11 ! The motto was : Buy! Buy! Buy!

    1. Re: good for National Security. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember after 9/11 ! The motto was : Buy! Buy! Buy!

      Of course, buy petrol, is good for your president's pockets !

  30. Re:Waste of money by b0lt · · Score: 0, Troll

    I was referring to Philips (which I actually think is a European company)

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  31. Maybe they should have left it running? by PortWineBoy · · Score: 0, Redundant
    It is being demonstrated Tuesday and Wednesday (July 27-28) during a three-day program featuring homeland security simulations aimed at improving how officials respond to terrorist attacks.

    Maybe they could have left it up a few more days? We might need it pretty soon

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  32. And since current desktops are not vector based... by deragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And since current desktops are not vector based, desktop icons are ridiculously minuscules and increasing the fonts up to 1000% causes text to fail fitting within the widgets boundaries.

    I want a fully vector based desktop, on Linux, and I want it adopted by the major distributions as the default. I know that their are some vector based desktop, but they are not usefull since they are not widely deployed and apps are not coded for them.

    I want to be able to program and specify that Widget B is 70% the size of Widget a, and the window is by default 12 cm wide or 50% of the width of the desktop (user configurable).

    I hate specifying in pixels. They are not the same on different display devices.

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  33. Penis size compenetition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just one GIANT penis size competition.

    Couldn't they just have used some of that generic viagra and saved a load of cash :p

  34. resolution??? by Fuzzums · · Score: 2, Informative

    " ...joining the four images into a single picture with higher resolution than regular television sets. "

    DUH!! My 17" monitor already has a higher resolution than my tv-set!

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  35. Hmm... by Brando_Calrisean · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doom 3 comes out, 140" monitor demo.. /me changes his pants. Repeatedly.

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    1. Re:Hmm... by abionnnn · · Score: 1

      Apparantly, Doom 3 is already out here in Australia. (due to the time difference to the states, it's already August the 3rd) I can't wait to finish work and pick it up on the way home. Failing that, we'll all start a riot. "Doom 3 or die". =)

  36. Oh come on now... by Combuchan · · Score: 1

    you can buy these on ebay for eight bucks.

    Oh wait...

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  37. But does it self-align? by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The question is whether this self-aligns all the projectors. If it does, it's a step forward. If it doesn't, it's Yet Another Mosaic Display With Alignment Headaches.

    Self-alignment is quite feasible today, because you can get multi-megapixel cameras. Or you could aim a cheap webcam at each join point. Somehow you've got to get high-resolution images of the join points. Then alignment is a straightforward process, if you get to project test patterns.

    For a production product, it would make sense to put a cheap camera in each projector, looking at the screen. Doesn't even have to be color. Some CRT-based projectors have this now, for auto-convergence. Then you could just aim a few projectors at the screen, get them roughly aligned, and let the software do the setup. This could even work for LAN parties.

  38. could be cool, yet sounds boring. by JVert · · Score: 1

    I got about 1/3 through the article but I had to open the door cause it was gettin too thick in here. I wonder if the projectors they use are going to be near as good as this one.

  39. 140" is for wimps. Here's one as long as a 747! by dlleigh · · Score: 2, Informative
    Check out these. The Guinness Book of World Records claims that the one at the Hong Kong race track is the world's longest TV screen.

    DiamondVision installations

  40. great for national security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I mean, how else are you going to project big brother's image?

  41. or this one ... by pavon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    at sandia labs with 4x the projectors. I don't think they have a cool algorithm for the seam matching, like the one in the story though. The neat thing about the sandia one system was what was feeding it - a 64 node cluster that could render realtime 3d visualizations of simulations done on the ASCI super computers. I don't know what the polygon count was on that thing but each projector was 1280x1024 and I couldn't see any corners when looking at a very detailed model (the one shown in the press release actually :).

  42. Standard Multi-Image Trick by Aidtopia · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd hardly call this "innovative" or even label it as a "technology." It's a standard multi-image slide show trick that probably goes back at least to the 1960s. (It was old hat when I did it in 1989.) It has been done with movie projection and is routinely done with video projection (see Dataton WatchOut).

    The trick is to have some overlap between the projection areas, and to use complementary gradient filters at the overlapping edges. The gradient filters can hide seams that even the slightest misalignment would cause.

    There was a graduate student (at CMU?) who made a nifty program that could compensate for alignment problems. The projectors could be crudely aligned, then grids were displayed on each one. A PC cam captured the grids, computed the offset, tilt, and keystoning. From that information a reverse transform was applied to each projector's output, and you got a remarkably well aligned multi-projector image. Very impressive, since the cam was obviously much lower in resolution than the composite image.

    Multi-projector techniques are even more important with video than they were with slides, since the light output of video projectors is so much lower. To throw a big image, combining multiple projectors is the most practical option.

    1. Re:Standard Multi-Image Trick by cirby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Modern video projectors are much, much brighter than 35 mm slide projectors ever were. You can get a couple of thousand lumens out of a box you can fit in your briefcase, and the large venue projectors toss out 17,000 lumens or so. Even a "medium" projector will embarrass any normal slide projector you can name, and gives the monster transparency machines a run for their money (think overhead projector films with a honking big light source and a large lens).

      As others have mentioned, the Dataton system makes it reasonably easy to put arbitrarily high resolutions on a screen (I've heard of 8000+ pixel wide setups). The big technical hurdle is now the screens themselves. It's a pain in the ass to make a seamless screen much bigger than 20 feet or so wide (the biggest rear projection screen I've worked on was in the 36 foot range, trust me on this),

      By the way - with a projector designed for large venues, aligning two or more projectors to within a pixel or so isn't that hard (almost all LCD and DLP type projectors have worse misalignments between R/G/B in their optical system anyway). At the scales we're discussing, you just have to be able to accurately shift the projector itself by 1/8" or so (a 1920 pixel wide image on a 20 foot wide screen gives pixels about that size). We usually spend more time doing color balance between machines than we do in the geometry tweaks.

    2. Re:Standard Multi-Image Trick by Aidtopia · · Score: 1
      Modern video projectors are much, much brighter than 35 mm slide projectors ever were. You can get a couple of thousand lumens out of a box you can fit in your briefcase, and the large venue projectors toss out 17,000 lumens or so.

      Perhaps the pro video projectors are, but most consumer grade and conference room projectors have only recently caught up to a Kodak Ektagraphic projector. Both are in the 1000 to 1300 lumen range for comparable screen sizes according to most of the specs I've seen. A 35mm slide projector does that fairly efficiently with a $14 bulb. Video projectors have much more powerful (and expensive) bulbs to make up for the lower efficiency in the optical path (though DLP is much better than LCD).

      The slides are much brighter and crisper than the video in every planetarium presentation I've ever seen. Planetariums are also big users of the gradient-edges for hidden seams trick. Skyskan makes software for producing overlapping panoramas and "all-dome" shows using slides and/or video.

      Precise alignment is usually possible, but having a greater tolerance means less effort and cost in setup and maintenance. The amount you need to shift a projector depends greatly on the throw distance. Granted, for rear projection, this is usually limited. But in front projection you're often shooting quite a distance with long-throw lenses.

  43. Re:Waste of money by cft_128 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Is this what American corporations are doing nowadays? This monstrous waste of money is pathetically useless. I'd prefer that they actually did something USEFUL.

    I hate to rain on your parade but Thomson is mostly a French company, actually used to be owned (at least partly) by the French government.

    As a side note, the actual article says they are working with Thomson but the slashdot summary says Philips (another European company, from the Netherlands).

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  44. Were you referring to this? by dlleigh · · Score: 4, Informative
    Projector Mosaic

    The technique is fast and the results are impressive.

  45. So it won't be ready by August 4th? by smchris · · Score: 1


    6.7 feet high still seems inadequate for several Doom3 monsters.

  46. Am I the only one... by ScoLgo · · Score: 1

    who read that headline as 14" Monitor Demo? I read that and thought, "Big Deal - I have a couple of those crappy things sitting unused on a shelf in the garage". Heck, these probably wouldn't even fit in my garage with all the other junk in there...

    Guess I need new glasses.

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    1. Re:Am I the only one... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...who read that headline as 14" Monitor Demo? .... Guess I need new glasses.

      Or a bigger monitor?

    2. Re:Am I the only one... by OverkillTASF · · Score: 1

      "Guess I need new glasses." Or one of these monitors. :-)

  47. Has the MPAA sued this guy yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since this rig theoretically has guerrilla drive-in applications, has a squad of MPAA lawyers armed with cease-and-desists been air-dropped over Purdue yet?

  48. I Gotta Get Me One of These... by Kurt+Wall · · Score: 1

    ...even if it does make me sterile.

  49. The question is... by Bull999999 · · Score: 1

    But the question is, how well will Doom 3 look on it?

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  50. RSS by sbszine · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a rumour going around that it happenns on the hour due to RSS aggregators. It does seem to be worse for me on the hour, but that could perhaps be attributed everyone arriving at work / coming back from lunch etc on the hour...

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    1. Re:RSS by eidolons · · Score: 4, Informative

      Remember that Slashdot just recently updated their code (this was like a few weeks ago) and they mentioned that there would be some serious bug issues for a bit.

  51. I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by baigeman · · Score: 3, Informative

    This setup is cool, however a less covered display is Purdue's 24 projector stereoscopic tiled display wall that i spent a year designing and building through the Envision Center at Purdue. This was built from 24 projectors in 12 tiles, with a custom designed and built frame. There was no software used to align the projectors, just me and an alignment system aligning everything by hand. There are a lot of universities and centers building tiled displays, it is much harder to try and build one in stereo(two projectors per tile, one projector for each eye. This is coupled with polarizations filters and glasses so that the right eye only gets the 12 right eye projectors, and the left eye gets the 12 let eye projectors. The stereoscopic settings are controlled with the software and the quad buffer stereo built into nvidia graphics cards.) -Jim Bartek bartek@purdue.edu

    1. Re:I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by mrokkam · · Score: 1

      Isnt this projector system also at the envision centre? I went there a few months ago... and they did seem to have a kool setup.
      I think the main thing behind the display is an big cluster of PC's (Or thats what I gathered from the info written there)... so u can like...render huge images et al...
      They also have a 3-d visualization system setup at the place....
      And the place is on the Accessgrid (or some kind of grid...forget whatexactly it is...)so... guess ppl can remotely operate the 140 inch screen and take classes.

      Basically.... it is more impressive in person than the darned website.

    2. Re:I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by jinzumkei · · Score: 1

      The tile wall Jim worked on is bigger and has a higher resolution than this one. The big deal about this one is that it is "software" aligned, which isn't too terribly impressive.

    3. Re:I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by whovian · · Score: 1

      And perhaps another lesser known display is NCSA's 20-tile wall display that measures 12' x 9'. This is driven by Linux boxes and dates back at least 3 years.

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    4. Re:I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by deanj · · Score: 1

      They doubled it to 40 projectors, and 40 machines some time ago. There was an article posted about it here.

    5. Re:I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by baigeman · · Score: 1

      did you see the 12 tile projection system after is was finished in the center? that is the one i worked on. Yet essentially it is a cluster and 24 projectors, but it is quite a feat to design a system to align them all. if you have any more questions e-mail me bartek@purdue.edu

    6. Re:I worked on a bigger display at Purdue by baigeman · · Score: 1

      yes it is much bigger, but it is a monoscopic display. these displays are very impressive, but they are not stereoscopic I have seen theirs plus their 6 sided cave (insanely cool). This is stereoscopic and is the closest thing to the lawnmower man.

  52. Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't fit the downloaded photo on my monitor... oh, the irony!

  53. did you watch the Democratic convention? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They had a display that was about 40 feet by 10 feet. And it was super high res.

    This article is pointless.

  54. Good Ol' Purdue by ttyp0 · · Score: 1

    I'm glad my alma matter is hard at work solving the world's most pressing issues.

  55. Oh, come on! by Kludge · · Score: 2, Funny

    You obviously know nothing about security. Everyone knows that terrorists will never attack us once they see our great, big ... computer displays.

  56. Yes! by blackmonday · · Score: 3, Funny

    That would make for a killer game of minesweeper!

    1. Re:Yes! by LiMikeTnux · · Score: 0

      Minesweeper hell, i wanna play solitaire on it! after all, thats what i bought my new athlon-64 system for!

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    2. Re:Yes! by lburdet · · Score: 1

      That would make for a killer game of minesweeper!
      ...with real mines, and real sweepers!
      realtime for National Security purposes!

  57. one small problem... by Daniel+Ellard · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... there's no door in the house large enough to squeeze it through.

    I guess I'll have to play life-sized doom3 in the garage...

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    1. Re:one small problem... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      squeeze what through? the 4 projectors?

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    2. Re:one small problem... by Daniel+Ellard · · Score: 1

      RTFA... The screen is 11.7' diagonally. It doesn't matter what the smallest dimension is, if the largest is the size of my garage door.

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    3. Re:one small problem... by baigeman · · Score: 1

      the screen is probably flexible and rolls up. you can usually get any screen material flexible or rigid or semi rigid (rigid sections)

  58. Uh... We already got 12 going here by Askjeffro · · Score: 0

    I goto Purdue and they already have 12 projectors working together, not sure why this is so special. They arn't used in such large display as their purpose is resolution, but as some already pointed out thats just basic optics limiting.

  59. Now.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The blue screen of death is four times bigger, or is that life size??

  60. Looks like we're both right by sbszine · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the main changes was to RSS -- see this comment for details.

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  61. War Room by Kenshin · · Score: 1

    Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room! ...unless it's a DOOM 3 deathmatch you're talking about, of course.

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  62. BFD by joberhart · · Score: 1

    Right now, I'm working on an industrial meeting where the screen is 16' x 100', 4799 x 768 pixel resolution, using WATCHOUT (www.dataton.com) and off-the-shelf Christie projectors... The screen size, as noted elsewhere can be arbitrarily wide/high.

  63. Tautology alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chromakey == bluescreen; If you were to have even read the wikipedia articles you linked to, you would know that.

    1. Re:Tautology alert! by cft_128 · · Score: 1
      Chromakey == bluescreen; If you were to have even read the wikipedia articles you linked to, you would know that.

      And if you had read the articles fully, you would realize that while they are similar and converging, they can still be different. But to a certain degree you are right and I should have been more precise: as a newscast is always video they will use chromakey (either digital, which is the modern bluescreen/chromokey method or the traditional video chromakey) and not the old school optical bluescreen. Jackass, Anonymous Coward -- but then I repeat myself in a true tautology.

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  64. TeleSuite already has a 4 screen display by mbone · · Score: 1

    TeleSuite already has a 4 screen monitor / display unit, 2048 by 480 pixels, and 16 by 3 feet, as part of the 400 series tele-immersion system. This uses NTT projectors and a one throw back-projection system.

    Standard use includes 4 scalars to make the display overlap seamlessly and IP multicast transport using multiple video groups.

    It's not built for national security, but it does do a good job with telepresence.

  65. This is not news by pagz · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a little late to this thread but this is definately not news...two years ago I was working for PPPL (www.pppl.gov) and we had 12 projectors tiled together to form one large display. Princeton U. main campus had 24 I believe. I've also worked on the Rutgers U. Engineering has one that tiles 9 together.

    Here's how it works. The RU and the PPPL walls were powered by a linux cluster, one machine per projector with a high end graphics card in it (Yes I played Unreal Tournament on it...it was damn nice). How does Unreal work on it? At the time we were using a project called WireGL which intercepts OpenGL calls on the master machine (or whatever machine is running the program) then splits them up across the Myrinet network to the machine that will render the image on it's section of projector. This project was run out of Standford while the new version of the project is called Chromium is now located out of UVA. This projects also not only split up the image but allow for pixal overlap so that the image appears "seamless".

    Yes I've also seen parts of the Matrix on the PPPL wall as a coworkers project was to write a parrallel MPG player for use on the wall, as this was a summer fellowship project he did not have much time to complete it and took a basic approach to it which was preprocess the mpg to split it into the configuration then using a modified mplayer I believe it was added networking code to syncronize the images, sound was not completed during the summer.

    Princeton U's cluster was a windows cluster which needed custom video drivers to power their wall but otherwise it was the same principal (when I left Princeton U was supposed to be moving the cluster over to linux).

    From skimming the questions in this thread I believe I've answer all but the DPI question...and that ends up being you do not have a pixalated display, infact at PPPL before we scaled up to 12 projects (the number of them when I left there atleast) the wall was a 7 Megapixal display and we found images taken with a 7 megapixal camara...they look simple stunning, in one image you were able to see finishing nails driven into a table cloth to keep it down.

    Anyway I hope that answers everyone's technical questions.

    Cheers :-)

    1. Re:This is not news by mikeage · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pagz, check below for Marques's (remember him?) comment and my response. Also note that the 12 projector wall is 9 megapixels (4096x2304), and we did have 9MP images, both CG and real. Craig's player was cute but primative... the reason that design was chosen was bandwidth-- if you want 9 megapixel animation at 24bps, you have 27 MBps of raw data... which is quite stressful on the network and the PCI bus.

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  66. Versus bad == terrorism / danger to our children by Morgaine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This tech is only being billed for a national security use because that's where the government wasteful spending is these days. If everybody was concerned about hurricanes for some strange reason, then this tech would be sold for its weather uses.

    Indeed, but once you understand that, you might as well buy into the system. Politicians aren't sentient as such, they just twitch occasionally under particular triggers, and National Security is of course a key positive trigger.

    While one's at it, one might as well label one's competition as encouraging terrorism and creating a danger to our children. That's bound to trigger a helpful negative response. Logic doesn't come into the process at all.

    This is where geeks go wrong, in expecting that the rest of society uses the same rational mechanism of thought as they. If one starts with that misconception, it's no wonder that the world appears incomprehensible.

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  67. 140" is monster? who're they kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What, no DLP cinemas in NW indiana?

    Or are the guys just lonesome for some Cinerama seam lines in their pictures?

  68. Doesn't seem very new or original by soward · · Score: 1

    Someone here at the University of Kentucky has been doing the same sort of thing (and them some) for at least 5 years now. Including blending large numbers of projected screens through a distributed framebuffer (in linux, using cameras for auto-calibration), imposing projected images overtop one another for shadow removal, resolution enhancment and other various and sundry things.

    See http://www.metaverse.org for technical details and contacts.

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  69. The real problem is lack of openness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real problem isn't so much the dreadful quality of service owing to the 500's and 503's --- after all, most of us aren't paying for high availability.

    What really hurts is that our "friends" are behaving like corporate louts who are too big for their britches, and are not being open to us about the problem.

    The community is good at helping. Let us.

  70. CRT projectors by JJahn · · Score: 1

    Hell, I've got an old NEC CRT projector out in my garage (you know, the ones with three seperate lenses). It can be adjusted to go anywhere from a 60" screen to a 300" screen. Its 1280x1024, so I'm sure at a 300" screen that would be shitty dpi...but still, this really isn't shocking news.

    And I don't see what it has to do with fucking national security, I guess thats the latest excuse to get massive amounts of government money to buy projectors.

    1. Re:CRT projectors by baigeman · · Score: 1

      one crappy projector in you garage is not the same as tiling computers and displays.

  71. Re:News that Slashdot won't report--Doom 3 pirated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Offtopic.

    Who didn't see this coming, anyway? Every game gets pirated. Popular games get pirated more than games nobody wants. Since when is this news?

    Hell, not even all those downloads are lost sales or cheapskates who wouldn't have bought it anyways. Some of us just want the game a couple of days sooner and will buy it a soon as we're able to. Although at the rate I'm downloading it, waiting until Gamestop has it will probably be faster... Stupid leechers uploading at 0.5k/s...

  72. RTFA by metalhed77 · · Score: 1

    if you read the article they note that this is the first such projector to make that there are no seams between projection screens.

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    1. Re:RTFA by sk0pe · · Score: 1

      That's what they say, but in reality, these guys have been doing this _commercially_ for at least 4 years (I believe it was used to do the large images on the crowd and the rotating globe during the opening ceremony of the 2000 Sydney Olympics).

      The product to look at is called "Watchout".

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  73. I can do that with a 7" TV and Magnifying glass. by imstanny · · Score: 0

    ...as a friend of mine did with a 7" tv to get a 100" projection. for $20 worth of materials and 7" tv... that was one hell of a screen (flip tv upside down, attach make-shift magnifying glass, turn off the lights and vuala 100" TV), the quality was pretty good too, although a bit lacking in brightness. These self-made projection screens go pretty cheap on ebay... no recessionary budgeting needed.

  74. Re:News that Slashdot won't report--Doom 3 pirated by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Downloaded it. AND pre-ordered it. easy enough.

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  75. But! by rDx666 · · Score: 1

    If you want to play Doom 3, and if the resolution is what people make it out to be, you'd need a flame-spitting video card of death (with racing stripes, N2O and neon lights of course) to get that kind of draw rate.....

    *punchline*Doom 3 by Email, anyone?*/punchline*

    And I've never heard of a 4-head video card. Perhaps you could strap two dual-display, overclocked-above-melting-point-of-tungsten Matroxes and use the Alienware proprietary card combiner thing to get results.

    We are officialy one Big Step Closer to those hellish, giant video screens in Minority Report (slow OLED display technology growth allowing). I imagine a 140 inch screen will turn some 3D artists' heads, because when I work in 3Ds max I always wish the screen was bigger so I wouldn't have to squint my eyes/zoom in extensively.

    1. Re:But! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I've never heard of a 4-head video card. Perhaps you could strap two dual-display, overclocked-above-melting-point-of-tungsten Matroxes and use the Alienware proprietary card combiner thing to get results.

      Some of the nVidia Quadro NVS range support 4-head...

    2. Re:But! by xactoguy · · Score: 1

      You can find your flame-sptting video card right here ;)

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  76. Re:And since current desktops are not vector based by coaxial · · Score: 2, Informative

    I want a fully vector based desktop, on Linux, and I want it adopted by the major distributions as the default. I know that their are some vector based desktop, but they are not usefull since they are not widely deployed and apps are not coded for them.

    Get a Mac. Honestly. Get a Mac. It's BSD based, and Quartz uses Display PDF. It's everything you want, and it's available now. Either that, or track yourself down a copy of NextStep that used Display Postscript.

  77. Re:News that Slashdot won't report--Doom 3 pirated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love this qoute:


    "From the cinema quality visuals and the incredible 5.1 sound, to the terrifying atmosphere and hyper-realistic environments, the whole game screams 'interactive horror film'.


    Yeah, sure, if it happens to be a horror film with no plot and boring gameplay. well, you know what I mean...

    come to fork in path, go left, kill zombies, come to locked door, backtrack, go down right path, kill zombiez, get key, backtrack, go through door. repeat. until. bored.

    The graphics are only cool for like a half hour and then you start to think damn this thing runs like shit and why is it so fucking dark and why does the gameplay suck so bad?

    I'll spend my money on half-life 2.

  78. Would be a huge waste of resources. by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 1

    Article claims it would be good for National Security...

    I'm pretty sure that however much a 12-foot monitor costs, the money could be much better spent on funding homeland security efforts in our cities.

    1. Re:Would be a huge waste of resources. by Zareste · · Score: 2, Funny

      Terrorist! Do you want Al Queda to blow something else up? Are you working for Bin Laden? THEN YOU WILL pay for our gigantic screens which will be used to monitor your safety in the shower!

      *gives long congress-like speech on how I'm related to someone who's sister's uncle's room-mate once talked to a guy who died somewhere near the WTC explosion*

      Yes that's right, I went there.

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  79. JavaOne by inertia187 · · Score: 1

    Not that anyone would expect them to, but they fail to mention that this system tested earlier this year at JavaOne.

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  80. Hmm 16 screens linked together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seen that this is only 4 so what.

    In a place where you cannot get big screens a guy using linux linked 16 standard monitors together to come up with one verry large screen. It points out is house or goes to sporting events.

    His require the screen to be take appear and placed in a frame this is simpler but It would lose on res I guess.

  81. Encrypted scalable video, not autocalibration. by Frobnicator · · Score: 4, Informative
    I dont think you get it. This is supposed to be aligned via software making it about 126487612834687913x easier. I mean even 4 doesnt seem bad but what if you had 24?
    There have been conference papers for years about auto-calibration of multiple projectors. At Vis2000 there were papers about automagically aligning and color-calibrating projectors (ie: the same seamless images using 4 or more displays) using only a set of projectors and a webcam. I have seen other papers on the topic at other conferences, but not attended their talks. Even their school website misses the signficant point, but that's expected from reporters.

    THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY DEMO IS FOR. They're running the demo for the US Department of Homeland Security. The Homeland Security people aren't interested in the fact that they can align the displays. They're interested in the fact that they're doing it using encrypted scalable imaging.

    The fact that they have a bunch of calibrated displays is not interesting. The fact that they're using CKMSS and encrypted video is interesting.

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    1. Re:Encrypted scalable video, not autocalibration. by Frobnicator · · Score: 4, Informative
      I hate to reply to myself, but I failed to mention how this translates into something that /.ers can get all steamed up about.

      One of the big point of his papers is copyright protection.

      Think: Distributed DRM.

      Think: Broadband Movie Distribution.

      Think: Projectors and TVs can have CKMSS included in them.

      Think: Keep the movie encrypted from the studio to the home theater projector, and REQUIRE the use of CKMSS-enabled projectors or TVs.

      Think: MPAA looking to replace CSS with some new shared-key system like CKMSS.

      Just some thoughts.

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    2. Re:Encrypted scalable video, not autocalibration. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think hidden cameras ... piracy in movie theatres is done with camcorders on tripods connected to the audio board from the projector booth. This is similar to the way old movies are transferred to DVD (albiet NOWHERE near as precise).

      In terms of security my guess is the military already employs encrypted digital video feeds from source to stream. Furthermore cable companies and satellite service providers have been doing this for years with analog and more recently digital and HD video streams.

      How would encrypting the signal in real-time make a difference when at some point the signal must be converted into something human-readable?

      Now it would be cool if the actual video was white noise to the naked eye and you needed some sort of special decoder glasses to view it .. or better yet decoder contact lenses.

  82. Ha! by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    I have a contract with these guys and I am building software that can...
    oh, wait, I can disclose it :)

  83. This has been done before by displague · · Score: 1

    PPPL's display wall is 15 feet across, with 9 1024x768 projectors. More pictures and info are available in Mike Age's PPPL Display Wall presentation.

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    1. Re:This has been done before by mikeage · · Score: 1

      Please don't slashdot this site (mikeage is mine).
      I have low bandwidth, and if this takes up too much space, I will have to take it down. Instead, try the google cache.

      Note that Marques is wrong here... it's now 12 projectors, 4x3 (so we have a net effect of a widescreen) of 4096x2304. And yes, it does run Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament, though I don't have any good pics handy.

      On another note, it's mikeage, or Mikeage, not Mike Age. Goes back to high school... thanks Elie Klein.

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    2. Re:This has been done before by mikeage · · Score: 1

      On second thought, don't check the google cache-- it butchers the powerpoint. Still, try and go easy...

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  84. It's All About the Pentiums, what?!? by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 1

    "Got a flat-screen monitor, 140" wide,
    I believe that yours says "Etch-a-Sketch" on the side."


    (Another "Weird Al" reference)

  85. ask yourself: do i need this monitor? by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    then ask yourself: what are the minimum doom 3 system requirements?

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  86. This is already being sold for years by den_erpel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have seen such screens on a daily basis, I do not see what is so interesting about this "research"... This is just a new player trying to play catchup, that's all...

    If you go to the site, you can even see some existing installations (network video and all).

    Nothing to see, move along...

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    1. Re:This is already being sold for years by baigeman · · Score: 1

      you obviously are not very informed in the industry. yes tiled displays have been going on for some time, but NO ONE has a good seamless integrated solution. the only solutions that you might be able to easily set up are cubes and they have obvious seems. Plus Barco projectors that can do this on their own cost 20-30 thousand a piece. and they still require a professional to set everything up and write software for the computers to run together. On top of that try getting all of the computers to sync their frame rates so you do not get any tearing between the screens. Try playing a pre-rendered movie across 10 computers flawlessly in sync The biggest problem is the only people out there intersted in the stuff are universities with grant money :)

  87. Dude... by gwoodrow · · Score: 1

    ...When I get a monitor like that - I can't wait to see the detail on my por... I mean uhhh... I can't wait to see the detail of the serifs on my fonts. The possibilities are endless!

    Actually, I don't think I'd ever pull up someone's picture on a monitor like that. Who wants to see high-resolution pimples?

    1. Re:Dude... by fuzzybunny · · Score: 2, Informative

      I highly recommend something called 'etherape'. Look it up. What it does is snarf and display all image files seen on a network (via tcpdump or snoop or whatever) completely out of context. No text, descriptions, nothing, just pics scrolling by.

      It's a great toy for an overhead projector at an internet cafe, or, who knows, at a demonstration of a 140" monitor on a university network...

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  88. Go Boilers by cynic10508 · · Score: 1

    Anyone else at Purdue know where they've got this set up? I wouldn't mind "getting lost" and finding my way into there before the rush of undergrads back to campus.

  89. "working with Philips"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article says that they're working with Thomson, not Philips as stated in the article summary.

  90. Purdue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in Indianapolis, we hold Purdue in high regard. In fact, we provide directions to those trying to find Purdue thusly:

    "Go North until you smell it, then West until you step in it."

  91. Screw you all by dodongo · · Score: 1

    I'm going to Rawls Hall tomorrow afternoon and having a look myself :)

  92. Re:And since current desktops are not vector based by Piquan · · Score: 1

    I hate specifying in pixels. They are not the same on different display devices.

    Using cm isn't a perfect solution, either. I had told X that my second head (my TV) was 32". Well-written apps went ahead and scaled properly to render 12 point text to be 12 points high, which I could not hope to read from my couch. I ended up telling X that I have a 15.5 cm wide display, which is the size of a monitor of the same viewing arc at arm's length.

    Sure, it's only a problem in unusual cases-- such as the display in the article, HMDs, etc. But maybe specifying sizes in radians would be more appropriate, if you want consistency.

  93. Where is it? by ujuhh · · Score: 1

    After some research I have found that the giant map on the screen is of Rome. more precisly it is of the St Peters Basilica.

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  94. MPAA... by Forbman · · Score: 1

    ...I wonder what the MPAA things of something like this? Better not play your DVD's on the computer driving the display, or they're gonna come knockin'!

    "where's my 2 dollars?"

  95. Working with Philips by jester · · Score: 1

    the article actually says working with Thomson (largely French government owned)

  96. Mandatory Dr. Strangelove Reference by fuzzybunny · · Score: 1

    Gen. Buck Turgidson: Ahh, am I to understand the Russian Ambassador is to be admitted entrance to the War Room?

    President Muffley: That is correct. He is here on my orders.

    Turgidson: I... I don't know exactly how to put this, sir, but are you aware of what a serious breach of security that would be? I mean... begins closing his notebooks he'll see everything. He'll see the big board!

    ...all 140 inches of it.

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  97. Wait! by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 1

    These people in the picture are pointing to the capitol or something! Arrest them! They must be terrorists!

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  98. Ah drat, got the name wrong by fuzzybunny · · Score: 1

    Sorry--meant to say Driftnet. EtherApe is something completely different altogether (although still pretty spiffy.)

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  99. What is it ? by hoofie · · Score: 1

    If this is demo for Homeland Security in the United States, why do they appear to be looking at an aerial photo of St. Peters Square in Rome ? (it looks like it towards the right of the photo - the city is European by the look of it)

  100. Massive display for Massive Action by tin+foil+hat+dude · · Score: 1

    This is the WAR ROOM, You can't fight in here!

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  101. Why would they want to monitor... by mrdaveb · · Score: 1

    Why would the national security people want to monitor Vatican City! Strange demo image

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  102. Umm how will this help security? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    By putting one in every town with an image of our leader telling us what to do?

    But really how much of a help in national security it is. It would be just stupid to say if only in 2001 we had a 140" high res display then 9/11 wouldn't happen. Besides the way they show the screen on the picture they can only see the lower end of it. Thus wasting the need for high res in the rest of the screen. Is there going to be a platform that can make you travel to the screen. This is just a waist of my money and it is just there to make the office look really cool. And when the reporters leave they turn off the image of the city (which you can't track individuals with) and pop in a DVD or They wanted the 1337est game of DOOM 3 Ever.

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  103. Has anyone tried overlaying images? by dschuetz · · Score: 1

    I've wondered for a while whether it might be possible to actually overlay four projectors. Rather than an overlapping mosaic of four images, you'd aim all four projectors at the same spot and align them such that each projector filled the gaps between the others' pixels.

    So rather than:

    AABB
    AABB
    CCDD
    CCDD

    you'd have

    ABAB
    CDCD
    ABAB
    CDCD

    I'd think that this might be more difficult than a simple overlapping mosaic, because you'd have to have consistent geometry across the entire image (rather than just perfectly consistent along the seams).

    But it might also nicely hide color balance issues. As all four projectors would simultaneously contribute to any single region of the screen, slight differences in color or brightness would be averaged out by the eye. Maybe. At least, it should be less noticable than if one entire quadrant were, say, "a little red".

    1. Re:Has anyone tried overlaying images? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 1

      Fair idea, but what about the corners? I understand that some digital projectors have issues with color balance or warping at the very outsides of an image.

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    2. Re:Has anyone tried overlaying images? by baigeman · · Score: 1

      there are some major problem with this. First off to overlap the images of two projectors exactly is a hard process. Secondly there are not big enough gaps between the projectors pixels to interleave another projectors pixels, unless you had the projector very very far from the screen which will make your overall size very large. Also the more compact the image from each projector the more compact the light is, making it appear brighter. Also I can't even begin to think of what a pain it would be to write the code for a while of your idea. you are defnitely posing a good question for other options that may be out there. Although i think the way that things are going now is relatively the best.

  104. Re:And since current desktops are not vector based by deragon · · Score: 1

    I agree. This is why I mentionned "and the window is by default 12 cm wide or 50% of the width of the desktop (user configurable)." Let the user configure the size of the application and save it. What is important is that once the apps has the right dimensions, it renders beautifully.

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  105. Re:Penis size competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, this is like four engineers lining their dicks up and claiming they've got a 20" penis. If it wasn't for the government funding implications, it'd be referred to as a circle jerk.

  106. 4x XGA resolution? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Imagine if you could do this with four XGA projectors! Why, you have a nearly unheard of resolution. IF you could use 16 high-output XGA projectors and double each one up to increase the overall brigtness, you might even end up with a 7000 lumen 2048x1536 monster!

    Except, um, it already exists:
    http://www.jvcpro.co.uk/tech/dila/news/releases_ht ml?atype=release&releaseID=494

    And you don't have to burn 16 lamps at a time and run a high speed computer with special software to do it. Damn, and I was sure this was revolutionize the world.

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    1. Re:4x XGA resolution? by baigeman · · Score: 1

      yeah, have fun paying out the rear for it as well. also this is an article from 2002, where are these projecotrs now???? exactly, it is not perfected yet. it costs too much. I know a prof who has a full res HD projector but it cost over 20K eventually this will work, but eventually you will have full res HD DLP chips as well, but guess what, when that happens people will still tile them. The wall i built was 24 XGA projectors doubled up to 12 tiles. And no one would do that for brightness, it gives you stereoscopy. And that was done for a mere 3K per projector. not to mention the fact that the more projectors you use the closer they can be to the screen and the smaller the footprint of the whole wall can be.

  107. Re:And since current desktops are not vector based by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That one DM is going vector based, the one named after a little person? Leprachan or sumthing?

  108. Re:And since current desktops are not vector based by Delphinios · · Score: 1

    ...
    Then write it like everyone else does in the OSS community?

  109. Don't worry... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As soon as you're able to afford one of these monsters, the guy next door will already have two!

  110. denver's 11-megapixel 57-foot digital planetarium by peter303 · · Score: 1

    The Denver Museum of Science has a 11-projector 57-foot screen planetarium. It is driven by a 30-node Onyx 3800. Most of the time it shows pre-rendered movies of solar system and galactic flybys. However it has a nifty interactive planetarium mode too.

  111. What Terrorists are at the Vatican? by athanatic · · Score: 1

    That is a picture of Vatican City, it looks like we are in imminent national danger from the Papists! Orange Alert! (William of Orange...?)

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  112. Are Purdue engineers compensating for something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First the giant drum, now the giant monitor.

  113. RSS: Really Slow Slashdot by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

    Remember that Slashdot just recently updated their code (this was like a few weeks ago) and they mentioned that there would be some serious bug issues for a bit.

    This is not how Real Companies handle code updates.

    Granted, any rollout of new code is going to turn up some minor issues that were not well anticipated and need to be patched up as they're discovered. But a flaw that makes the site 100% unresponsive on a regular basis is not one of those. (And no, I don't believe it can be pinned on lazy RSS readers flooding the site at the top of every hour. The patterns I've experienced aren't consistent with that.)

    The proper way to handle this would be to roll back Slashdot to the previous, stable version of the code until the performance issues can be identified, corrected, and re-tested.

    Can't roll the site back non-destructively? Well, that'd be another flaw with the code as well.

  114. Sc2003 had one that was comprable by tempest69 · · Score: 1
    The supercomputing Conference in Phoenix had a Weather simulation running on a huge projection system ar so sick and wrong resolution. Because It's not just about being able to make a slide show for powerpoint. Doing realtime fluid dynamics at that scale was just insane..

    for what its worth, the AC setup was also insane for the conference, a huge room of supercomputers, and everyone comfortable.. thats tricky.

    Storm

  115. Ideal for PHBs by atcurtis · · Score: 1


    With a 140" screen, all those PHBs who set their screen res at 640x480 may be able to upgrade to 800x600.. or maybe even 1024x768 without straining their eyes too much...

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  116. Hoo, boy, I can see a lot of evil done with this. by FusionDragon2099 · · Score: 0

    Mass hypnosis, seizure delivery, broadcast of AYBABTU transmissions... it's more of a hazard to national security than a help.