but what about the cost of changing the way you develop apps or modify the existing apps to run on linux. This seems like a back asswards approach to convince the boss that linux is good. I think a better approach is for developers to make both windows and linux versions of their software as they have been doing for mac os for years. Then when the phb says "gee, if we switch to linux, can we still use program X?"
I've started doing this with mozilla and thunderbird so that if I switch eventually, it'll be less painful when all the programs look and act differently.
However, with commercial software, the problems occures when you have a bunch of licenses for windows and you want to switch to linux. I think it'd be in the developers intrest to offer trade-in's of windows licenses for linux licenses. This might be a radical step, but the only people that buy software are those that already buy it.
Yeah, but the idea of using google as a backup isn't meant for people who have a TB of data. This idea is for someone who wants to back up some documents, maybe some photos, but not much else. Of course backing up to a tape drive is faster, but it's not free!
They could be doing that now, easier in fact than this, with a live cd. It would still require someone with technical knowhow to set this up on an office full of computers. They could just as easily set up a whole mess of linux installations or just custom live cd's.
I doubt this will turn to much, it seems like a toy for geeks.
I don't get this. I mean you buy the expensive hardware because it comes with that great operating system that just plain "works" and you put linux on it? I mean don't get me wrong, but if you're going to use linux, use it on an x86 that's cheaper. Unless you're specifically using this G5 machine for number crunching on a 64 bit level, what justifies the price of the hardware if you're not using that beautiful os?
Hey, I don't really get why someone would ever spend so much time doing it, but if this ever really matures (it still looks pretty young) and impressive software is available for it this could be pretty cool. I think it's pretty neat that linux is that portable even though a lot of work was still put into modifying it.
When they start putting linux in toasters, that will be useless, but this could actually evolve into something interesting as an "iPod customization pack"
This is like a mechanical engineer publishing tips and tricks on how to break open safes that claim to be "burgler proof." Or Diebold suing someone who figured out how to rig elections. This is like the "wag the dog" scenario where you start a fight with someone to move attention to them and away from your shortcomming.
I hope they test the hell out of these types of "medicine" and their effects on their surroundings. What if a large amount of the chemicals they make adversely effects another species in the area? I'm all for production of GM foods that help, but not those that hurt as well just to save a few pennies.
keeping kde and gnome separate for a little while longer, or possibly forever, might be a good plan. There's one catch though, they need to be completely interoperable. I want to be able to install the same program on both desktops and have it work seamlessly. I also want an icon put on the desktop or the taskbar menus. Is this possible? I don't have the expertise but I'm sure it can be done if these programs are on top of a standard api.
Why do I think this is a good idea? Keeping them separate but equal promotes competition between them. It makes them work harder to fix those little glitches that annoy users. KDE is looking kind of like windows xp, and gnome mac os X. It'd be nice if they took on more of an original look, but hey rome wasn't built in a day. I think that having the choice between both desktops knowing that most applications will work the same without needing a hundred different rpms for each thing is what's needed. I also think that libraries need to be consolidated. Basically I guess I'm saying this: the ease of installing programs on windows, but the ability to run them on a mac. Sound difficult? eh, look how far things have come.
Years ago, we looked towards the future of television as having a 100 channels and this would be a good thing. In reality, we have a hundred channels, but about 92 of them are shit. I only watch hbo, discovery, history, foodtv, comedy central and maybe a few others depending if there is one or two decent shows once a week on that channel.
This is bad because my cable bill is over a hundred a month (mind you hbo and internet are also on there). I never watch those other channels but I'm paying for them. It'd be nice to go a la carte, but comcast is going to find another way to get my dollar from me. Any company that can say they want to buy disney world and keep a straight face knows what they're doing and does it right.
But that's what people want
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People love that clean feeling. It makes them more comfortable. The first thing I think of when I see IceWM screenshots is how old school they look and how I assume, "I could never get anything done on that." Let's not start a gui war, but the gui is what people see, not the kernel source code. I think that it is very important for developers to focus on this. Linus has the kernel, but the gnome and kde people have more of the end user to worry about. Making the gui look more stable is important not just for "pulling people away from winblowz" but to keep people on gnome. Also, the switch to gkt2 allows things to look more seamless which is what windows users are more or less comming to expect. Ironically though, office doesn't look like anything. I'll never understand that!
They just needed to set one string variable to the current name of the browser. It's much easier to edit that than go through all the code every 3 months to change the name.
I'm in my second year as a computer engineer. We've all come to realize that we're probably not going to learn anything. The only thing we can do with proficiency is figure out how to do a problem well enough since the teachers can't teach. It's frustrating, but it's better than being a history major.
Eww, it's ugly. I'm not using that. Looks way too cluttered, the drawing space is forced to be too small because of the windows. See photoshop for a real photo manipulator. And ask most graphics designers and I'm sure they'll agree.
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but what about the cost of changing the way you develop apps or modify the existing apps to run on linux. This seems like a back asswards approach to convince the boss that linux is good. I think a better approach is for developers to make both windows and linux versions of their software as they have been doing for mac os for years. Then when the phb says "gee, if we switch to linux, can we still use program X?"
I've started doing this with mozilla and thunderbird so that if I switch eventually, it'll be less painful when all the programs look and act differently.
However, with commercial software, the problems occures when you have a bunch of licenses for windows and you want to switch to linux. I think it'd be in the developers intrest to offer trade-in's of windows licenses for linux licenses. This might be a radical step, but the only people that buy software are those that already buy it.
Yeah, but the idea of using google as a backup isn't meant for people who have a TB of data. This idea is for someone who wants to back up some documents, maybe some photos, but not much else. Of course backing up to a tape drive is faster, but it's not free!
They could be doing that now, easier in fact than this, with a live cd. It would still require someone with technical knowhow to set this up on an office full of computers. They could just as easily set up a whole mess of linux installations or just custom live cd's.
I doubt this will turn to much, it seems like a toy for geeks.
In about two minutes this guy's going to be a -1 troll
I don't get this. I mean you buy the expensive hardware because it comes with that great operating system that just plain "works" and you put linux on it? I mean don't get me wrong, but if you're going to use linux, use it on an x86 that's cheaper. Unless you're specifically using this G5 machine for number crunching on a 64 bit level, what justifies the price of the hardware if you're not using that beautiful os?
Where would you get the proper drivers for a badger if you wanted to install Windows instead?
na, I'll just buy ron popeil's set it and forget it rotisserie and "set it and forget it"
Hey, I don't really get why someone would ever spend so much time doing it, but if this ever really matures (it still looks pretty young) and impressive software is available for it this could be pretty cool. I think it's pretty neat that linux is that portable even though a lot of work was still put into modifying it.
When they start putting linux in toasters, that will be useless, but this could actually evolve into something interesting as an "iPod customization pack"
Finally, someone to talk to! And since they're not real, no restraining orders either.
This is like a mechanical engineer publishing tips and tricks on how to break open safes that claim to be "burgler proof." Or Diebold suing someone who figured out how to rig elections. This is like the "wag the dog" scenario where you start a fight with someone to move attention to them and away from your shortcomming.
Can't we just ride bikes and enjoy the scenery rather than fly past it at 5000 Mph?
I hope they test the hell out of these types of "medicine" and their effects on their surroundings. What if a large amount of the chemicals they make adversely effects another species in the area? I'm all for production of GM foods that help, but not those that hurt as well just to save a few pennies.
keeping kde and gnome separate for a little while longer, or possibly forever, might be a good plan. There's one catch though, they need to be completely interoperable. I want to be able to install the same program on both desktops and have it work seamlessly. I also want an icon put on the desktop or the taskbar menus. Is this possible? I don't have the expertise but I'm sure it can be done if these programs are on top of a standard api.
Why do I think this is a good idea? Keeping them separate but equal promotes competition between them. It makes them work harder to fix those little glitches that annoy users. KDE is looking kind of like windows xp, and gnome mac os X. It'd be nice if they took on more of an original look, but hey rome wasn't built in a day. I think that having the choice between both desktops knowing that most applications will work the same without needing a hundred different rpms for each thing is what's needed. I also think that libraries need to be consolidated. Basically I guess I'm saying this: the ease of installing programs on windows, but the ability to run them on a mac. Sound difficult? eh, look how far things have come.
Years ago, we looked towards the future of television as having a 100 channels and this would be a good thing. In reality, we have a hundred channels, but about 92 of them are shit. I only watch hbo, discovery, history, foodtv, comedy central and maybe a few others depending if there is one or two decent shows once a week on that channel.
This is bad because my cable bill is over a hundred a month (mind you hbo and internet are also on there). I never watch those other channels but I'm paying for them. It'd be nice to go a la carte, but comcast is going to find another way to get my dollar from me. Any company that can say they want to buy disney world and keep a straight face knows what they're doing and does it right.
People love that clean feeling. It makes them more comfortable. The first thing I think of when I see IceWM screenshots is how old school they look and how I assume, "I could never get anything done on that." Let's not start a gui war, but the gui is what people see, not the kernel source code. I think that it is very important for developers to focus on this. Linus has the kernel, but the gnome and kde people have more of the end user to worry about. Making the gui look more stable is important not just for "pulling people away from winblowz" but to keep people on gnome. Also, the switch to gkt2 allows things to look more seamless which is what windows users are more or less comming to expect. Ironically though, office doesn't look like anything. I'll never understand that!
Have you no remorse? It's one thing to slashdot a web page, but java? You can't rightly do that!
Yeah I know, it's a joke. The class is just like any other static file.
They just needed to set one string variable to the current name of the browser. It's much easier to edit that than go through all the code every 3 months to change the name.
So instead of fighting and light sabers, they just go straight to plaid
That question is like asking these people what would the world be like if there were 3 hot lady linux programmers in your bed now?
So they looked at office xp and said "um, make it blue-er"
I'm in my second year as a computer engineer. We've all come to realize that we're probably not going to learn anything. The only thing we can do with proficiency is figure out how to do a problem well enough since the teachers can't teach. It's frustrating, but it's better than being a history major.
I thought it died off 65 million years ago.
Buy something if it's the best, get something for free if you don't care.
Eww, it's ugly. I'm not using that. Looks way too cluttered, the drawing space is forced to be too small because of the windows. See photoshop for a real photo manipulator. And ask most graphics designers and I'm sure they'll agree.
The same reason they're not cached: Copyrights.