>Why punish the good people for what bad people do?
A system, such as the criminal justice system, needs to be able to effectively police its users. In this system, the people who own the music cannot effectively control what happens to their property.
Also, Nobody is being punished, there are mealy trying to shut down a system that is adversity effecting there business goals. You can still listen to all their music by going to the store and buying the CD.
>It's more like, buying said Ferrari (or not free Kia) and being told how to drive it, where to drive it and when to drive it
Really, you mean we don't have any laws governing how you can use your car?
>I think it's ridiculous that they are getting their undies in a bundle over people being given the ability to record music from their satellite based music system.
Hey, if you worked really hard to build a house, and I stole it, I bet you would feel pretty crappy.
Wake up & smell the real world.
The RIAA reflects the will of the musicians, record labels, and the end user of their music. Yes they own it, and they can do what ever the legally want with it. I'm reading post after post of you, the end user, complaining about it. You don't like it, don't buy it & don't listen to. If this was the material world, it would be like complaining you can't drive some ones Ferrari. Get over it, you want free music, you're stuck in your Kia.
>In the end, one has to choose:
>either patent it all, including software or >don't allow patents on anything. There is no >valid reason for making a difference.
>Also, either patents should be valid worldwide >or they shouldn't be valid at all, for obvious >trade competition equity.
>Given the current way the world is working, I >would tend to tink that everything should be >patentable and that patents should be valid >worldwide.
I believe that's referred to as purism. It's more of an OCD disorder then a clearly thought out concept. The world, due to the fact that we operate on beliefs, and not absolute truths, cannot agree on "one way" to do things. This is why there are 50 states, different countries, and religions. All based on belief. I believe Hitler was trying to change all this, but I think they current system is not so bad.
>"right to privacy is an urban legend. Read the >constitution if you don't believe me."
>You first. You can start with the 9th amendment.
9th amendment:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
The right to privacy is a concept that is indeed based on an interpretation of this. The admendment however, in itself, does not state nor give "a right to privacy" I'm curious why you wouldn't include it in your post, or did you not know where to find it?
This doesn't seem like a big deal, this doesn't even seem like a sort of big deal. From the way it is written, I believe we are talking about the same "tap style" as the phone company uses. I highly doubt that the home router will ever come into play.
This is like serial number protection, phone tapping, and photo ids. Very basic blanket security that keeps people from breaking the law with out a solid plan. Which deters many, allows the stupid ones to get caught, and forces the smart ones to find work arounds that many times leave clues.
It also does not stop you from designing your own software if need be, to protect the privacy of your transmissions.
I fully support the idea, law enforcement needs to be able to do it's job and right to privacy is an urban legend. Read the constitution if you don't believe me. These things only become an issue if they become unreasonable to a large group of people. I don't even foresee this affecting the lives of anybody other then the criminal.
Basically by working on interpolating with Linux, you are also working on creating software that better complies with open standards. Bill Gates has often preached a closed source model, most famously his point counter point letter against open source. It is almost certain that you will be making it easier for your competition gain an edge. Which goes against the grain of every policy and business practice Microsoft has employed since its conception. What about today's market leads you to believe this is a good move for Microsoft?
There is a fine line between selling out and making a dollar. If you stand for something, you are not supposed to compromise your ways for anything. Most people though, stand for making money, and will do anything legal (or illegal in some cases) to acquire it. I do not know the owners that you discuss personally, but if their first goal is the legal acquisition of money, then they are not really selling out. They are just profiting from a hobby.
It would be no different then this scenario. You take an interest in sculpting; spend a year or two creating sculptures. Then someone offers you 5 million for one just to smash it. The sculpture (or website) isn't really all that important to you if at all. You don't stand for art and never did, you're an IT guy, so what's it matter if someone wants to smash it. You take the 5 million and call it a day.
Also, you are free to create some form of uncorrupt able "PBS type" forum.
I do agree with your dismay though. I wish that more people would stand for something other then the dollar. It's just a product of capitalism.
Windows, Apple, and Linux are all in competition with in the desktop market. This is exactly the same way Ferrari, Porches, and Honda are all in the passenger vehicle market. We can discuss which one is better at this and that, but to try and tell me one doesn't qualify for a market it is already being used in is ridiculous. "Linux Not Ready for the Desktop" says exactly this and therefore the title can be dismissed.
So what we are really doing here, is comparing the Enzo to the Civic and trying to make a story out of it. Thank you captain, I've seen this show before and no matter how big that civics turbo is it's not gonna win, but it is a few hundred thousand cheaper. I'm also pretty sure it will get me to the mall just as fast.
Windows will never be more Linux then Apple. Nor will Apple be less Windows then OS/2. They will just continue to have different pros and cons. I'm sure the number of Ferrari drivers somewhat compares to the number of Linux users.
People are also ready for Linux, so lets not get started on that either. It's just doesn't appeal to as many people as windows. That's all, it's really very simple.
500k of worth is what, a house, 2 cars and some stuff. Probably about my networth. I assure you that I don't have 164k to just kick around. I also assure you the 61 billion is not liquid.
"Some hackers have also gained infamy by hacking a major system allegedly to help. Do you support such actions and why?"
Alright, and tomorrow I'm gonna go kick in my neighbors door. Followed by, "Hey guy, I think your house is insecure." Then I will design him a new bigger and badder door, and keep a key for myself.
Do you think I should charge $125 and hour or $250 for this "service"
Software Keys, activation, etc, are designed to prevent "causal coping" and nothing more. Hard core uber l33ts and real hackers are always gonna break and distribute software, they know this. It's just supposed to make the process difficult for the unwashed masses. It also makes it harder for you to update, or get support for your warez, saving software companies money. Nothing is worse then actually loosing money on software for any company
It also wards off morally correct people, companies that don't want to get sued, and a bunch of other would be pirates.
I've dealt with Covad for forever. They acutally encoraged me to push my line because they wanted me to buy more lines. I think in the DSL world, when you order 768,1.54, etc they know the cap, so they can figure out a profit ratio. I'm sure that if you tie up a line to it's max, they will make pennies, but i'm sure they don't create a senario where they are in the red.
Cable vision has done something similar, which worked out well, but there are some interesting problems. When the power goes out, you're out of luck. Even with a UPS if the power is out for a few hours, not much you can do about it unless everybody buys a home generator. Also, they where denied 911. Meaning that there is no 911 service because it wasn't deemed reliable enough to host one. Small problems, but you still seem to need another phone just in case.
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>Why punish the good people for what bad people do? A system, such as the criminal justice system, needs to be able to effectively police its users. In this system, the people who own the music cannot effectively control what happens to their property. Also, Nobody is being punished, there are mealy trying to shut down a system that is adversity effecting there business goals. You can still listen to all their music by going to the store and buying the CD. >It's more like, buying said Ferrari (or not free Kia) and being told how to drive it, where to drive it and when to drive it Really, you mean we don't have any laws governing how you can use your car? >I think it's ridiculous that they are getting their undies in a bundle over people being given the ability to record music from their satellite based music system. Hey, if you worked really hard to build a house, and I stole it, I bet you would feel pretty crappy. Wake up & smell the real world.
The RIAA reflects the will of the musicians, record labels, and the end user of their music. Yes they own it, and they can do what ever the legally want with it. I'm reading post after post of you, the end user, complaining about it. You don't like it, don't buy it & don't listen to. If this was the material world, it would be like complaining you can't drive some ones Ferrari. Get over it, you want free music, you're stuck in your Kia.
>Is this going to take time away from human
>interaction, i.e. class discussions, teachers
>lecturing?
Come on now, even Logictec makes a headset for the Xbox
>In the end, one has to choose:
>either patent it all, including software or
>don't allow patents on anything. There is no
>valid reason for making a difference.
>Also, either patents should be valid worldwide
>or they shouldn't be valid at all, for obvious
>trade competition equity.
>Given the current way the world is working, I
>would tend to tink that everything should
be >patentable and that patents should be valid
>worldwide.
I believe that's referred to as purism. It's
more of an OCD disorder then a clearly
thought out concept. The world, due
to the fact that we operate on beliefs,
and not absolute truths, cannot
agree on "one way" to do things. This is why
there are 50 states, different countries,
and religions. All based on belief. I believe Hitler was trying to change
all this, but I think they current system is not so bad.
The world is not just black and white.
Charity? Call it what you want but this is no different then a retail store hiring a security guard.
>"right to privacy is an urban legend. Read the >constitution if you don't believe me." >You first. You can start with the 9th amendment. 9th amendment: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." The right to privacy is a concept that is indeed based on an interpretation of this. The admendment however, in itself, does not state nor give "a right to privacy" I'm curious why you wouldn't include it in your post, or did you not know where to find it?
This doesn't seem like a big deal, this doesn't even seem like a sort of big deal. From the way it is written, I believe we are talking about the same "tap style" as the phone company uses. I highly doubt that the home router will ever come into play. This is like serial number protection, phone tapping, and photo ids. Very basic blanket security that keeps people from breaking the law with out a solid plan. Which deters many, allows the stupid ones to get caught, and forces the smart ones to find work arounds that many times leave clues. It also does not stop you from designing your own software if need be, to protect the privacy of your transmissions. I fully support the idea, law enforcement needs to be able to do it's job and right to privacy is an urban legend. Read the constitution if you don't believe me. These things only become an issue if they become unreasonable to a large group of people. I don't even foresee this affecting the lives of anybody other then the criminal.
Basically by working on interpolating with Linux, you are also working on creating software that better complies with open standards. Bill Gates has often preached a closed source model, most famously his point counter point letter against open source. It is almost certain that you will be making it easier for your competition gain an edge. Which goes against the grain of every policy and business practice Microsoft has employed since its conception. What about today's market leads you to believe this is a good move for Microsoft?
You can't fire me, I'm certified!
*/ Begin pay raise */
There is a fine line between selling out and making a dollar. If you stand for something, you are not supposed to compromise your ways for anything. Most people though, stand for making money, and will do anything legal (or illegal in some cases) to acquire it. I do not know the owners that you discuss personally, but if their first goal is the legal acquisition of money, then they are not really selling out. They are just profiting from a hobby. It would be no different then this scenario. You take an interest in sculpting; spend a year or two creating sculptures. Then someone offers you 5 million for one just to smash it. The sculpture (or website) isn't really all that important to you if at all. You don't stand for art and never did, you're an IT guy, so what's it matter if someone wants to smash it. You take the 5 million and call it a day. Also, you are free to create some form of uncorrupt able "PBS type" forum. I do agree with your dismay though. I wish that more people would stand for something other then the dollar. It's just a product of capitalism.
America is hated, like bill gates it hated. The further you climb, the bigger the magnifying glass gets.
Windows, Apple, and Linux are all in competition with in the desktop market. This is exactly the same way Ferrari, Porches, and Honda are all in the passenger vehicle market. We can discuss which one is better at this and that, but to try and tell me one doesn't qualify for a market it is already being used in is ridiculous. "Linux Not Ready for the Desktop" says exactly this and therefore the title can be dismissed. So what we are really doing here, is comparing the Enzo to the Civic and trying to make a story out of it. Thank you captain, I've seen this show before and no matter how big that civics turbo is it's not gonna win, but it is a few hundred thousand cheaper. I'm also pretty sure it will get me to the mall just as fast. Windows will never be more Linux then Apple. Nor will Apple be less Windows then OS/2. They will just continue to have different pros and cons. I'm sure the number of Ferrari drivers somewhat compares to the number of Linux users. People are also ready for Linux, so lets not get started on that either. It's just doesn't appeal to as many people as windows. That's all, it's really very simple.
Just when I started getting a social life, technology goes and messes it up again.
120mph???? For a half an hour??? Glad he had a full tank of gas and peferctly straight roads. And what happen to netural? This doesn't add up.
500k of worth is what, a house, 2 cars and some stuff. Probably about my networth. I assure you that I don't have 164k to just kick around. I also assure you the 61 billion is not liquid.
I do not see this improving my quake abilities. =)
"Some hackers have also gained infamy by hacking a major system allegedly to help. Do you support such actions and why?"
Alright, and tomorrow I'm gonna go kick in my neighbors door. Followed by, "Hey guy, I think your house is insecure." Then I will design him a new bigger and badder door, and keep a key for myself. Do you think I should charge $125 and hour or $250 for this "service"
There isn't a Justin Bailey. A "Bailey" is a Euro Term for bikini. So Just in Bailey means Just in bikini
Hmmm, does this mean windows will now expire after 3 uses! Maybe they could include some sort of USB credit card swipe.
Software Keys, activation, etc, are designed to prevent "causal coping" and nothing more. Hard core uber l33ts and real hackers are always gonna break and distribute software, they know this. It's just supposed to make the process difficult for the unwashed masses. It also makes it harder for you to update, or get support for your warez, saving software companies money. Nothing is worse then actually loosing money on software for any company
It also wards off morally correct people, companies that don't want to get sued, and a bunch of other would be pirates.
I've dealt with Covad for forever. They acutally encoraged me to push my line because they wanted me to buy more lines. I think in the DSL world, when you order 768,1.54, etc they know the cap, so they can figure out a profit ratio. I'm sure that if you tie up a line to it's max, they will make pennies, but i'm sure they don't create a senario where they are in the red.
Cable vision has done something similar, which worked out well, but there are some interesting problems. When the power goes out, you're out of luck. Even with a UPS if the power is out for a few hours, not much you can do about it unless everybody buys a home generator. Also, they where denied 911. Meaning that there is no 911 service because it wasn't deemed reliable enough to host one. Small problems, but you still seem to need another phone just in case.
So this means I can check out alien woman now? =)
A little mutation never hurt anybody...