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Cybernetic System to Allow Physical Interaction
Ant writes "Wired News reports researchers have developed a cybernetic system to allow physical interaction over the Internet. The system allows touching and feeling of animals or other humans in real time, but it's first being tried out on -- chickens. The Touchy Internet Built was by a wacky group of researchers at the Mixed Reality Lab at the National University of Singapore (NUS)."
So does this mean I can choke a chicken over the Internet now?
Virtual cock fights!
Researchers ... are cybering... chickens??? Thank god the DARPA money is going to the right things.
I already interact with myself while I watch cyber girls on my computer. Man, this ain't news!
So you mean scores of geeks can get down and dirty with their favorite cyber-babe without actually meeting them? SWEET!
"Wow, cybersex just got a thousand times better! For chickens, anyway."
*cue an onslaught of 9 trillion posts making the exact same joke*
Dunno if I'd go that far...
Physical interaction with humans over the internet? This sounds like many a Slashdot reader's idea of a wet dream.
When showcased at the Version 05 arts festival in Chicago, viewers suggested using the system for internet sex. Experts dismiss the whole idea as silly.
"Current haptic displays typically allow a user to interact with a virtual or remote environment through a tool," says Allison M. Okamura, an assistant professor of mechanical engineering at Johns Hopkins University. "Hence, the systems feel like you are poking at the world through a stick. A major challenge is providing the user with more delicate tactile sensations, such as feeling that occurs when one draws her finger over a rough or smooth surface. This kind of realism is difficult to achieve."
You want a handjob from a chicken or you want to give a handjob to a chicken?
Either way, the term "choking the chicken" takes on a whole, new meaning.
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
Who wants to touch someone's cock online?
God spoke to me.
Having tired of my favoritest pass time on the internet - hunting live animals with a remote control rifle...
I can now indulge my 2nd favorite over the internet: feeling chickens.
I can hear my non-nerd friend now: "But why don't you get a real chicken to feel?"
In post Patriot Act America, the library books scan you.
here's your cue, /.'ers. every corny line about porn on the internet ever seen, here's your chance to post it - free karma for all
-- james
teledildonics
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
that touches you!
*DrugCheese rants*
Wow, now those internet sluts can REALLY get around.
Foxed Design
That being said... all you stickophiles, your virtual dreams are answered!
Some doctors are already using robots remotely to diagnose patients... In Alaskan remote communities, something like this can eventually provide remote robotic surgery with sensory feedback...
I did an interview years ago with some guy in the gaming business. He said that someday he expected VR equipment to have "three gloves."
I'm all for new technology and all, but that just doesn't pass the laugh test IMHO. I mean, for one thing, electronics and bodily fluids just don't mix...
Paleotechnologist and connoisseur of pretty shiny things.
I WILL PAY!!!! this would revolutionize the internet in ways never seen before
Er, that's the National University of Singapore, Walt. Relax; no DARPA money here.
This brings a whole new meaning to kicking someone off an IRC channel.
All of this just means they need to give the technology to the porn industry. They'll have it suitable for online sex in no time, and charge an arm and a leg for it. Or, if they can't get it beyond "poking people with sticks," they'll just open up an S&M site with it.
Soon.... very soon, our dreams will become reality. Let the tapeing of the fists begin!
http://blog.syslinx.org/?m=200502
Vol~
Talk about reach out and touch someone!
How can we forget this? Its been done
boobies!!!!!
All they're doing is turning on a motor at the press of a button. The motor is in a jacket they put on the chickens. The button is in a replica chicken in another location.
Please tell how this is anymore cybernetic than a telephone!
You could start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cybernetics
just combine it with the hi-def web cast and we'll have adult entertainment all over it's ass, literally
-Tim Louden
...'new'?
There have been 2-way haptic feedback systems since the early 90's (and probably before that but I am not personally aware of them.)
I personally used a 20+ sensor cyberglove on an SGI IR that was networked to another modified cyberglove in order to transmit tactile response both to and from the target (in this case a rubber ball.) That was in 1997.
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In episode 7, Leia will be able to give you a virtual blow job.
Is this a *new* idea? Hardly.
http://www.fu-fme.com/ (humor)
http://www.sinulator.com/ (real)
So I guess the next logical step was a chicken. I think these guys have spent too much time on a farm.
Price, Quality, Time. Pick none. What, you thought you had a choice?
Could the other party feel the jizz?
We're working on it. In the meanwhile, go take a cold shower.
doesn't rate on my fun-o-meter
Well, you've got a pretty basic model then. Mine reads -0.075.
He's actually trying to be constructive.
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you /. one of these devices?
Can't help but envision the future where your touch device is something you can have groups of people collaborating in all at once.
Porn aside, since human touch can be one of the most positive feelings, maybe this will have a good impact on society.
Now que in the "rub and tug" jokes.
So they've managed to wire up a force-feedback VR system that can transmit IP packets. All things considered, I'm more amazed that this is even interesting, in this day and age. Given the usual speed of technological development, VR should be about at the point of regular home-use. We should be seeing virtual TV remotes inside of datagloves or Internet commerce through meaningfully browsable stores. (Actually, that was tried at one point. Not very successful, but the bandwidth really wasn't there.)
In other words, we should be a bit beyond the chicken stage.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
I just hope they're able to effectively keep hackers out. Imagine what a goatse troll could do if they were able to hack into a virtual sex session. Wow, that thought just made internet sex a lot less appealing.
Sorry, needed a south park reference ;-) interesting step towards VR cybersex. Where safty is just a matter of keeping liquids away from electricity.
so i can start working on a plugin to give me a blow job ;)
The Chicken Lover strikes again!
Fun with Anagarams! LADS HOST, SHALT DOS. HAS DOLTS. AD SLOTHS, HATS SOLD. ASS HO, LTD.
FU-FME has been around for quite a while.
The chickens are already cybernetic.
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If you were using Windows, would BSOD be changed to B-Balls-OD?
I personally used a 20+ sensor cyberglove on an SGI IR
Yeah, but did you use it on a chicken? I think all of you naysayers are missing the truly original, patent worthy use of this technology "...on a chicken".
I'm going to invent reading email "...on a chicken".
Someone's been smoking a tad too much pot while watching Adult Swim I see.
Buck buck buck... ba-buck buck buck...
This means that eventually, I'll be able to watch two people from the internet actually fight! Though, you have to wonder, is the technology STRONG enough for that kind of tactile feedback?
Rock'em Sock'em Robots Online, anyone? Betcha I can make your head pop first!
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
New commercial: "Can you touch me now? Ahhhhhhhh! er, um yes".
I couldn't get the bloody chickens to cooperate. They kept getting crushed. The ball didn't seem to mind. Stupid poultry...
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for 100% prevention of all those nasty things like babies and STD's.
All your base are belong to Google.
A net-gf and I made a pair of sex suits when I was a teenager. Worked over our 2400 baud Net conenctions. Had a still pic and recorded sound effects. Might have been even lamer than this thing.. maybe. Was sort of fun though.
At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
http://bash.org/?4281 get up get on up get up get on up and DANCE * nmp3bot dances :D- i'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet
All that time and money down the drain when we could have found out what yoda and chewbacca smelled like. Touch technology ... ridiculous.
I bet they wanted to use chicks at first...
...remember good 'ol times when IP used to mean Internet Protocol....
hmm... hasn't this been around for a while aready? [link may be NSFW]
Famous Last Words: "hmm...wikipedia says it's edible"
GPL Cyber Dildonics.
But does your dildo Run Linux? Yes!
In Soviet Russia you fuck the microsoft.
Insert Beowulf cluster of dildos here.... err I mean insert Beowulf cluster of dildos joke here.
Get your Chicken Fucker wavs/mp3s here
Fowl play foreplay is foul play.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
Those perverts are gonna go choke the chicken!!
Josh
PS. Isn't this old hat? Like Howard Rheingold, Jaron Lanier and the whole "teledildonics" thing from the early 90s?
gigantino.tv - Heavy but weighs nothing.
http://fu-fme.com/
Oh the golden days of the 'net are brought to fruition!
... viewers suggested using the system for internet sex. Experts dismiss the whole idea as silly.
Partly becasue it was a debasement of technology, but mostly because they never got invited to those sorts of parties.
I highly recommend that you check out Ray Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines published by Penguin Putnam in 2000...
I read the book for a paper in a class I took with Dr. Foerst of MIT AI lab fame...
Anyway, as I recall, Kurzweil goes into a lengthy discussion of nanobots that would totally enable a level of virtual-reality interaction with other humans... He discussed a whole new level of cyber-sex encompassing all the tactile sensation without the STD's.
Seriously, check it out, it will make you think!
Isn't it interesting how you come to recognize posters based solely on their sigs???
I just found out. Oh and yes, it was a female.
Welcome to the field of teledildonics.
Think Neo in the Matrix when he takes the bullet out of Trinity
What /.'rs are missing here is the fact that chicken is just the meat of the animal called a hen... so in fact you are feeling up a dead hen... or cock as the case may be if this is a turkey.
Feed my eyes...
another possibility: a third-world farmer milking their cattle remotely by means of inexpensive, solar-powered Linux box
I doubt that we will ever figure out - and I suspect that even if we did figure out we couldn't do much about it
Most of the /. crowd probably touches their own chicken enough without needing to reach out and cybernetically touch another!
BTW, the subject is one of Keanu Reeves' lines from Parenthood.
What are you doing now, you lazy drunken obscene unsayable son of an unnameable gipsy obscenity?
[...] Experts dismiss the whole idea as silly. [...]
I wonder what sort of experts these are ... pr0n experts? technology experts? WTF?
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No, I haven't RTFA.
Yoda smells like J. Edgar Hoover's faggoty ass and Chewbacca smells like a whetted pussy.
choke the chicken....
I disagree. In another 10 or 15 years your going to be looking back on todays technology like we do NES. The reason it failed was because the technology *wasn't* there. The closest visually are still basic low-poly models relying heavily on texture mapping to provide the appearance of detail that just isn't there.
When you start treading VR waters I think you realize how quickly todays technology fails to fit the bill. Novel? Sure. Maybe even fun. But no-one is going to mistake a sweaty vinyl glove and some hot, neck wrenching, low-res goggle for "virtual reality".
Reality contains a lot more physical feed-back then we are currently capable of reproducing. Thats why VR has remained a tech-show novelty and not become the booming industry you'd like to see (and your not alone).
Quack, quack.
Because you have to wonder: how do the machines know what Tasty Wheat feels like? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think Tasty Wheat feels like actually feels like oatmeal, or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken, for example: maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken feel like, which is why chicken feels like everything.
"Nobody writes jokes in base 13." - Douglas Adams
...for April Fools Day stories?
The idea is not new, and there is even an open source application (and as an open source developer, let me say: it's about time that we can touch each other without proprietary protocols).
that could have been a good poll
what would you like to interact with?
1) breasts
2) breasts
3) breasts
4) breasts
5) breasts
6) Cmdr Taco breasts
This is one step closer to sucker punching people over standard TCP/I - a day I most anxiously await.
Let the commencement BEGINULATE!
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"...touching and feeling of animals or other humans in real time" Slow down boy, take it one at a time. You don't want to advance that fast into a specialize field such as this.
Start with something easy, for example your local HS cheerleader- that should be enough for a long long time.
You forgot to patch your haptic system! Now your software vulnerabilities are physical! Sucks to be you!
*STAB*
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
..because some guy on the Internet pushed it.
:-)
I'm sorry, but it had to be said
Harald
eom
Finally a use for the Internet that I have been waiting for.....virtual prostate check!
Never play chicken with a passive aggressive.
What, no Robot Chicken jokes? Ungblauch!
You mean, in ways never felt before...
nearly there....
now all we need is the lawnmower.
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
Usually you have to wine & dine them, but this is a revolution if you can interact with them at a click of some buttons!
Honestly, what kind of redneck idea is this to make a legal way to "interact" with poultry?
Was it really neccesary to bring this hidden barn-activity to my wonderful virtual world?
Given the extent to which porn industry is cashing in on the net, the statement just reeks of vanity...
Sure, if we didn't know, and it was still the 70's, then maybe I'd buy it.
Finally! It's official, with this technology long distance relationships can "work".
Georgia Tech, the leader in Chia(tm) technology.
Well, obviously nobody here is well-versed in how to artificially inseminate chickens. One quick rub on the male's rear and one quick rub on the female's rear is all it takes. Human cybersex takes too many rubs. Now all they need is a virtual way to connect between the two chicken's that have virtually been rubbed.
Imagine a Beowulf clucker of those.
--What's this sig thing all about then? Should I have one?
DAMM The Renegade Slashdotter! We've found him guys! WHo actually thought of something OTHER than pr0n for this new breakthrough!
Let's tar and feather him! OVer the internet!
Oh wait...
... As much of a free-karma fest as this is, I can't think of anything to say that will in any way top the level of humor already inherent in such an announcement. I'm just not that funny.
Friend: "The NIC is misconfigured..." Me: "No prob, I'll just telnet in and fix it." *Silence*
"Where did you get that music from!!!"
WHHAAAAAMMMM!!!!!
The lunatic is in my head
SIG: TAKE OFF EVERY 'CAPTAIN'!!
Obviously the author hasn't seen "FuckU-FuckMe":
http://www.fu-fme.com/
The only safe sex is sex with a chicken over the Internet
"Adrian David Cheok".
Reporter Lakshmi should really appreciate the additional 'touch' capability!
We can fluff him. We have the technology.
We spend effort to develop technology allowing us to interact with people similar to ourselves.
Yet we go out of our way to ignore 'strangers' on the train or street; We shun all possible contact with anyone not totally like ourselves.
Which of the above has a greater chance of providing a stimulating, rewarding experience?
Ah well.
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I'm going to invent reading email "...on a chicken".
I nicknamed my laptop that I bought in 2001 "Chicken," so I have been reading e-mail on a chicken for years.
See you in court.
Can't you see it when the FedEx guy showed up with the chicken crates?
"I wanted 10 chicks, and you brought me... birds!!! What's your supervisor's name and telephone number?"
Windows isn't the answer... it's the question. NO is the answer!
Just when I started getting a social life, technology goes and messes it up again.
Maybe to you. I live for adventure!
When is someone going to stand up for the chickens in this fiasco?
/.ers groping them over the internet!
It's bad enough they feed you, raise you, keep you like pets, and then kill, pluck, and eat you. Now they've got thousands of
One day the chickens will strike back, with giant chicken-controlled robots attacking the evil overlords.
I gotta switch to decaf.
You're not a cyborg....you're a giant chicken!
I can't stop the flood of Far Side images coming from this one....
Remote haptic interaction could allow people who are allergic to dogs and cats to caress their pets remotely.
Maybe it's just me, but why would somone who is allergic to cats or dogs even HAVE a cat or dog. Also, if they did, would they pay to have it "stored" in a remote location strapped in a funny suit so they could pet it whenever they felt the urge? Or will this spawn a new Pet Storage Facility where someone will purchase 100 dogs of various breeds and rent out time for eager "petters?"
You create your own reality - Leave mine to me.
"We understand the perceived eccentricity of developing a system for humans to interact with poultry remotely, but this work has a much wider significance," he added. Classic.
"Push" technology is the way of the future.
Microsoft has the patent for reading email on a chicken as well as pig, cow and duck. If you hurry fast you can probably patent reading email on a Yellow-tailed Woolly Monkey, but after I post this you better be quick.
They have already done this for other types of "reaching out and touching animals."
There exists no way of exchanging information without making judgments. --Bene Gesserit Axiom
Damn it--you're right!!
It's the chicken that makes it patentable--as such!!
Akarsz Magyar Gentoo fórumot? Akkor
Just think of it as a really thick condom.
Can you say "porn industry buy-in"?
LOL
I think it's more like cockjobs.
Happens all the time, guess someone missed the submission, Its been sitting at pending since Tuesday :)
I thought it was an interesting story that would break up the eventual SW reviews and M$ rules the world and should die threads.
...I'll be able to interact with the triple-breasted whore from Eroticon Six?
Just what teh Intarweb needs, "touching and feeling of animals or other humans in real time".
You know you've read slashdot for too long when a conversation thread involving teledildonics and chickens doesn't even phase you.
Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
Eventually cyberporn is what the killerapplication for this will be.
In the article they were discussing that this technology could be used for cyberhugging. And that people allergic to their pet may remotely caress their dog/cat/chicken.
Seriously, I think cyberporn applications will have a much bigger marketpotential. The wicked porn industry will come up with crazy ideas...
http://www.subservientchicken.com/
I believe Subservient Chicken beat them to the mark.
Your signatures belong to me.
obligatory bash.org quote:
:D-< :D|-< :D/-<
<Zybl0re> get up
<Zybl0re> get on up
<Zybl0re> get up
<Zybl0re> get on up
<phxl|paper> and DANCE
* nmp3bot dances
* nmp3bot dances
* nmp3bot dances
<[SA]HatfulOfHollow> i'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet
Keep this technology away from gotse !!!!
"We are developing artificial tactile sensors that will imitate the functionality and efficiency found in biological structures such as human fingers," said Chang Liu, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Illinois. "We have shown that simple, low-cost sensor arrays can be used to analyze and identify surface textures."
.. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
Do the chickens have large talons?
The real question is how much are you willing to spend to choke your chicken over the internet?
Jay Dale "If you're not living on the edge then you're taking up too much space!"
I admit it. I didn't invent this one. But I still have Space Travel, the new engine. Which I guess is now #2 on the list of new things to buy. And, even tho it can't compete with this one I'll put the link here anyway: http://www.newpath4.com/forsalespacecraftenginecon stantpowertheory.htm . By Thanksgiving you'll be worn out with this new sex toy, and I will once again RISE, RISE, RISE TO THE NUMBER 1 POSITION.