Yeah, I realize that. But it would seem to me if this is going to be Rare's flagship title and Rare is one of MS's crown jewel developers, they can do better than a remake.
Some call this a contender for the top game for e3. To me, a remake of a 5 year old Nintendo game isn't all that much to brag about.
I believe the demo is the multiplayer section, correct? That is new. The single player is the remake of the original. The single player adventure has been censored (who would have thought that nintendo would have the "adult" version of the game...) and made significantly easier. According to the preview on IGN, the game took the player around 20 hours on the original version and only 7 hours on the remake...
It is hard to say what I am less interested, the current music scene on mtv or the new X-Box. To me, both are paler imitations of greater things in older generations...
I guess I still don't buy MS as a game company. I was looking at Rare's newest offering for the X-Box and realized it isjust a rehash of Conker's Bad Fur Day. Nothing against conker, but can't Rare at least put him in a new adventure instead of just prettying up an older game? I realize that Capcom did this with Resident Evil on the cube, but Capcom also gave Nintendo RE4...
Right, but it would seem to me that this would prevent the sort of immersion that I want in a rpg. I don't want to have to stop and start throughout the afternoon. It, to me, would be like trying to watch a movie and having people keep calling me on the phone. I can pause the movie and restart it, but I wouldn't enjoy the experience.
I don't know. The X-Box is a trojan horse trying to sneak into houses everywhere. With the DVD-RW, it is able to replace standard VCR's and even Tivo's to a lesser extent. MS is hoping to take over the living room, one home at a time.
I am not sure why exactly my post was flamebait, but thanks for replying anyway.:)
I would agree with your statement about the DS library. DS has very little to offer as of now, though I do hope E3 will help turn it around.
For me, I think what is most interesting is the way that PSP is trying to change what sort of games people want to place. Nintendo portables have always been about pick up and play games such as the old NES. Turn on Mario Bros (or whatever), play for 20 minutes and feel free to quite whenever. The inclusion of PS2 games into a handheld is impressive, but I am not sure that these games are what people want in a handheld. Do people want to sit it out and play games that require a large investment of time? I mean, do I want to be stuck playing FFXIII (or whatever that series up to) until I find a save spot (again, or whatever they have), or do I want to freedom to simply quit when I get to my stop?
Time will tell.
I think this is ironic. The PSP's killer app is illegally playing Nintendo games. I think it is pretty telling that fans would need this additional library... (Yeah yeah, roms are legal if you already own the game... But who really does that? Maybe 30 percent of emu users?)
I am biased of course, I am a bitter Nintendo fan who wants the PSP to burn in flames...
I think that it is difficult to gage exactly where this is going. I agree that Steve's rhetoric (year of hd, etc) strongly hints that the movie download service is coming, but it seems to me that the superdrive will have to become near standard accross the board. That way people will be able to burn their movies to standard dvds. My guess is that the switch to superdrives will happen right before or at the same time as the movie store...
My only question is this: what happens to all of the dvd extras? Am I going to lose 10hours worth of fun so that I can download a movie for ten bucks a pop?
The video's aren't for sale per se, but are instead freebies with certain songs. There isn't anything stopping them from sticking the original video onto Ice Ice Baby, but you can't simply purchase the video on its own as it stands currently..
The SNES didn't have a downfall, it was at the end of life as the PSX came out. The N64 wasn't a bad system, it was just a bitch to program for and the carts made the games much more expensive. I am not going to argue that Sony came in at this point, but to pretend that Nintendo was putting out awful systems or awful games is a stretch. There are some great N64 games out there (some to this day are still my favorites) including Mario 64 which I would consider the best 3-D platformer yet.
Agreed. One thing to remember about DDR is that it is a modern relative of the old Powerpad games from the original NES. There was even an aerobics game that was similar in basic idea. I am not saying that DDR is a ripoff of those games, DDR is literally a revolution in gaming. BUT, it is important to recognize that Nintendo even had a hand in this one.
The problem comes from the occasions when companies don't send the checks. Numerous phone calls and emails later, my brother is still waiting for a rebate from Tivo from a year ago. Mail-in rebates are a pain in the ass.
Huh, that is an interesting idea. I hadn't heard of that feature, but it would definately be nice for planerides. I wonder if it has to do with the dvd-decoder which may require the cpu.
It was mentioned that the iBook was a day old so I assumed that it would be under warenty. A side note, the Applecare warrenty costs a bit, but for me was WELL worth it. I had a new dvd-rom drive, new power supply and other repairs that add up to at least 1000 bucks all covered for free because of the warrenty.
Hmm, as far as your note about Panther, that is contrary to what I heard, but like I said, I didn't have first hand experience with that particular upgrade. Personally I have been waiting for tiger to be released and installed before I pick up my new iMac...
Err... yeah, except you forget to mention that the psp requires memory sticks and the size of the thing is incredibly inconvient. Are you going to strap your psp onto your arm when you go to the gym?
I understand that folks are all pretty stoked about their new toys, but the psp is going to have a hell of a time getting beyond being a video/game player. You mention adding an external harddrive to a psp; sure, you could do that, but it would be damn near the size of an iPod. Think about it for a moment. Now, if there were only a way to avoid carrying two things around....
I will bet that apple will have a similar service within the year. They have already declared this the year of HD video. I am certain that this will include a movie service. In Tiger's preview, Apple offers the following hint of a codec which I will bet be the file format: QuickTime 7 features an ultra-efficient new video codec called H.264. H.264 delivers stunning video quality at remarkably low data rates, so you see crisp, clear video in much smaller files. Chosen as the industry-standard codec for 3GPP (mobile multimedia), HD-DVD and Blu-ray, H.264 represents the future of next-generation, high-definition DVD playback. Numerous broadcast, cable and videoconferencing groups consider H.264 the video codec of choice for their deployments. To learn more about H.264, visit the H.264 technology page or consult the H.264 FAQ. I don't think that Apple will offer any sort of video iPod, instead Steve will either offer a larger device with a decent size display or simply sell the movies as viewable on laptops. Obviously a 4lb laptop is a pain to carry around, but I'm guessing the selling point would be the lower power consumption because dvd's drain battery so much more than normal usage...
These are my bets, what do you guys think?
I am not positive about this, but I have heard from numerous posts on other boards that if you bought a machine within the month of the new release you should be able to get a free upgrade. I would highly suggest calling the applecare line because they are usually quite willing to help out with these sorts of issues...
Right, but the key there is "by default". You can easilly select and install other kernels if you feel like it. The whole idea of Slack is to be using the latest, official stable packages. You can go off on your own and try whatever beta/latest greatest packages you want, but they have always been conservative on kernel issues...
As I acknowledged, there are re-hashes on the handhelds. If you want to consider that demonstrative of all that Nintendo does, then so be it. I am more interested in what Nintendo does with its consoles.
I guess I am not sure which Metroid remakes you are referring to. Metroid Prime was not a remake nor was Metroid Prime 2. MP2 is a sequel. It didn't innovate its gameplay as much as it could have, but it was still its own new and unique game.
It seems to me that you consider anygame that features Mario in it to be a "mario game". This totally ignores that the games themeselves are entirely unique apart from each other in regards to their gameplay. Mario golf is in no ways a Mario Bros platformer. Paper Mario is not Mario Party. Just because the games feature familiar characters doesn't mean the games are cookie-cutter. Nintendo is still responsible for much of the innovation in games even today (analog stick, rumble/duel shock, etc) and now with the new integration of the DS and Revolution. Make fun of it if you want, but I look forward to whatever comes next.
The difference is that the Water Cannon was a gigantic shift in actual gameplay. The entire game design changed significantly from a typical Mario game to the point where many felt alienated from the game. Was this also the case with the Hot Stick? For some, maybe. But for most, Madden is Madden is Madden. There are changes of course, but most people upgrade simply to keep up with all of the changes in the NFL itself, not because of any real innovation that EA has done.
I have to take issue with your claim of Nindendo "remaking and rehashing". While it is true that certain franchises appear throughout every system, Nintendo makes it a point ti offer a unique new spin on gameplay. Back to the original NES days, Mario went through numerous sequels but each stood out on its own as something truly unique. Mario Sunshine included the water cannon for example.
The same holds true for Zelda. WInd Waker was a drastic shift in many ways from the previous N64 games, while keeping the integrity of the franchise.
Beyond the "old" franchises, Nintendo is creating new franchises all the times such as Mario Party, Super Smash Brothers, Animal Crossing, etc.
There is, I admit, a certain amount of rehashing in the porting of old games to the handheld systems, but I think this is legitimate. These systems require a different sort of game because of the play and go aspect of a handheld. A complex and in depth Zelda works less on a handheld than it does on a console... I would love to see more original games as well in this regard, I am chomping at the bit for a new 2d Mario Brothers game.
Mary Shelley re-wrote Frankenstein in a smiliar way as GL. In books, this was an especially common practice.
Iit is different in books because GL is preventing modern distribution of the old version, but Shelley did the same thing after she updated her text. It wasn't until after her death that the original version became available. The only reason that was even possible is becasue of the lax copyright laws on old texts.
The differences are in the packaging and the material that comes with the iPod itself. The main differences are the instructions are going to be written for the WIndows user and will include one of those fold out "getting started" posters. HP felt that the Windows user needed a different sort of help with the iPod than the Mac mindset inherent in the current Apple instructions...
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Yeah, I realize that. But it would seem to me if this is going to be Rare's flagship title and Rare is one of MS's crown jewel developers, they can do better than a remake. Some call this a contender for the top game for e3. To me, a remake of a 5 year old Nintendo game isn't all that much to brag about.
I believe the demo is the multiplayer section, correct? That is new. The single player is the remake of the original. The single player adventure has been censored (who would have thought that nintendo would have the "adult" version of the game...) and made significantly easier. According to the preview on IGN, the game took the player around 20 hours on the original version and only 7 hours on the remake...
It is hard to say what I am less interested, the current music scene on mtv or the new X-Box. To me, both are paler imitations of greater things in older generations...
I guess I still don't buy MS as a game company. I was looking at Rare's newest offering for the X-Box and realized it isjust a rehash of Conker's Bad Fur Day. Nothing against conker, but can't Rare at least put him in a new adventure instead of just prettying up an older game? I realize that Capcom did this with Resident Evil on the cube, but Capcom also gave Nintendo RE4...
Right, but it would seem to me that this would prevent the sort of immersion that I want in a rpg. I don't want to have to stop and start throughout the afternoon. It, to me, would be like trying to watch a movie and having people keep calling me on the phone. I can pause the movie and restart it, but I wouldn't enjoy the experience.
I don't know. The X-Box is a trojan horse trying to sneak into houses everywhere. With the DVD-RW, it is able to replace standard VCR's and even Tivo's to a lesser extent. MS is hoping to take over the living room, one home at a time.
I am not sure why exactly my post was flamebait, but thanks for replying anyway. :)
I would agree with your statement about the DS library. DS has very little to offer as of now, though I do hope E3 will help turn it around.
For me, I think what is most interesting is the way that PSP is trying to change what sort of games people want to place. Nintendo portables have always been about pick up and play games such as the old NES. Turn on Mario Bros (or whatever), play for 20 minutes and feel free to quite whenever. The inclusion of PS2 games into a handheld is impressive, but I am not sure that these games are what people want in a handheld. Do people want to sit it out and play games that require a large investment of time? I mean, do I want to be stuck playing FFXIII (or whatever that series up to) until I find a save spot (again, or whatever they have), or do I want to freedom to simply quit when I get to my stop?
Time will tell.
I think this is ironic. The PSP's killer app is illegally playing Nintendo games. I think it is pretty telling that fans would need this additional library... (Yeah yeah, roms are legal if you already own the game... But who really does that? Maybe 30 percent of emu users?) I am biased of course, I am a bitter Nintendo fan who wants the PSP to burn in flames...
I think that it is difficult to gage exactly where this is going. I agree that Steve's rhetoric (year of hd, etc) strongly hints that the movie download service is coming, but it seems to me that the superdrive will have to become near standard accross the board. That way people will be able to burn their movies to standard dvds. My guess is that the switch to superdrives will happen right before or at the same time as the movie store... My only question is this: what happens to all of the dvd extras? Am I going to lose 10hours worth of fun so that I can download a movie for ten bucks a pop?
The video's aren't for sale per se, but are instead freebies with certain songs. There isn't anything stopping them from sticking the original video onto Ice Ice Baby, but you can't simply purchase the video on its own as it stands currently..
The SNES didn't have a downfall, it was at the end of life as the PSX came out. The N64 wasn't a bad system, it was just a bitch to program for and the carts made the games much more expensive. I am not going to argue that Sony came in at this point, but to pretend that Nintendo was putting out awful systems or awful games is a stretch. There are some great N64 games out there (some to this day are still my favorites) including Mario 64 which I would consider the best 3-D platformer yet.
Agreed. One thing to remember about DDR is that it is a modern relative of the old Powerpad games from the original NES. There was even an aerobics game that was similar in basic idea. I am not saying that DDR is a ripoff of those games, DDR is literally a revolution in gaming. BUT, it is important to recognize that Nintendo even had a hand in this one.
The problem comes from the occasions when companies don't send the checks. Numerous phone calls and emails later, my brother is still waiting for a rebate from Tivo from a year ago. Mail-in rebates are a pain in the ass.
Huh, that is an interesting idea. I hadn't heard of that feature, but it would definately be nice for planerides. I wonder if it has to do with the dvd-decoder which may require the cpu.
It was mentioned that the iBook was a day old so I assumed that it would be under warenty. A side note, the Applecare warrenty costs a bit, but for me was WELL worth it. I had a new dvd-rom drive, new power supply and other repairs that add up to at least 1000 bucks all covered for free because of the warrenty.
Hmm, as far as your note about Panther, that is contrary to what I heard, but like I said, I didn't have first hand experience with that particular upgrade. Personally I have been waiting for tiger to be released and installed before I pick up my new iMac...
Err... yeah, except you forget to mention that the psp requires memory sticks and the size of the thing is incredibly inconvient. Are you going to strap your psp onto your arm when you go to the gym?
I understand that folks are all pretty stoked about their new toys, but the psp is going to have a hell of a time getting beyond being a video/game player. You mention adding an external harddrive to a psp; sure, you could do that, but it would be damn near the size of an iPod. Think about it for a moment. Now, if there were only a way to avoid carrying two things around....
I will bet that apple will have a similar service within the year. They have already declared this the year of HD video. I am certain that this will include a movie service. In Tiger's preview, Apple offers the following hint of a codec which I will bet be the file format:
QuickTime 7 features an ultra-efficient new video codec called H.264. H.264 delivers stunning video quality at remarkably low data rates, so you see crisp, clear video in much smaller files. Chosen as the industry-standard codec for 3GPP (mobile multimedia), HD-DVD and Blu-ray, H.264 represents the future of next-generation, high-definition DVD playback. Numerous broadcast, cable and videoconferencing groups consider H.264 the video codec of choice for their deployments. To learn more about H.264, visit the H.264 technology page or consult the H.264 FAQ.
I don't think that Apple will offer any sort of video iPod, instead Steve will either offer a larger device with a decent size display or simply sell the movies as viewable on laptops. Obviously a 4lb laptop is a pain to carry around, but I'm guessing the selling point would be the lower power consumption because dvd's drain battery so much more than normal usage... These are my bets, what do you guys think?
I am not positive about this, but I have heard from numerous posts on other boards that if you bought a machine within the month of the new release you should be able to get a free upgrade. I would highly suggest calling the applecare line because they are usually quite willing to help out with these sorts of issues...
Right, but the key there is "by default". You can easilly select and install other kernels if you feel like it. The whole idea of Slack is to be using the latest, official stable packages. You can go off on your own and try whatever beta/latest greatest packages you want, but they have always been conservative on kernel issues...
As I acknowledged, there are re-hashes on the handhelds. If you want to consider that demonstrative of all that Nintendo does, then so be it. I am more interested in what Nintendo does with its consoles.
I guess I am not sure which Metroid remakes you are referring to. Metroid Prime was not a remake nor was Metroid Prime 2. MP2 is a sequel. It didn't innovate its gameplay as much as it could have, but it was still its own new and unique game.
It seems to me that you consider anygame that features Mario in it to be a "mario game". This totally ignores that the games themeselves are entirely unique apart from each other in regards to their gameplay. Mario golf is in no ways a Mario Bros platformer. Paper Mario is not Mario Party. Just because the games feature familiar characters doesn't mean the games are cookie-cutter. Nintendo is still responsible for much of the innovation in games even today (analog stick, rumble/duel shock, etc) and now with the new integration of the DS and Revolution. Make fun of it if you want, but I look forward to whatever comes next.
The difference is that the Water Cannon was a gigantic shift in actual gameplay. The entire game design changed significantly from a typical Mario game to the point where many felt alienated from the game. Was this also the case with the Hot Stick? For some, maybe. But for most, Madden is Madden is Madden. There are changes of course, but most people upgrade simply to keep up with all of the changes in the NFL itself, not because of any real innovation that EA has done.
I have to take issue with your claim of Nindendo "remaking and rehashing". While it is true that certain franchises appear throughout every system, Nintendo makes it a point ti offer a unique new spin on gameplay. Back to the original NES days, Mario went through numerous sequels but each stood out on its own as something truly unique. Mario Sunshine included the water cannon for example. The same holds true for Zelda. WInd Waker was a drastic shift in many ways from the previous N64 games, while keeping the integrity of the franchise. Beyond the "old" franchises, Nintendo is creating new franchises all the times such as Mario Party, Super Smash Brothers, Animal Crossing, etc. There is, I admit, a certain amount of rehashing in the porting of old games to the handheld systems, but I think this is legitimate. These systems require a different sort of game because of the play and go aspect of a handheld. A complex and in depth Zelda works less on a handheld than it does on a console... I would love to see more original games as well in this regard, I am chomping at the bit for a new 2d Mario Brothers game.
Mary Shelley re-wrote Frankenstein in a smiliar way as GL. In books, this was an especially common practice. Iit is different in books because GL is preventing modern distribution of the old version, but Shelley did the same thing after she updated her text. It wasn't until after her death that the original version became available. The only reason that was even possible is becasue of the lax copyright laws on old texts.
That is suprising. In Manhattan (KS for those thinking NY), a Panara opened recently and it offers wifi...
The differences are in the packaging and the material that comes with the iPod itself. The main differences are the instructions are going to be written for the WIndows user and will include one of those fold out "getting started" posters. HP felt that the Windows user needed a different sort of help with the iPod than the Mac mindset inherent in the current Apple instructions...
I read the book Word Freak this summer and it was shocking to me just how nerdy people can be. I don't mean this in a bad way, but it would make the geeks on here feel like captain of the football team in terms of "coolness"...