Considering the phone when 'death gripped' still out performs almost everything else on the market, its really fucking retarded to call it 'the death grip problem'. I really wish we'd stop using extreme names for trivial to non-existent issues.
Yes, the signal quality goes down. No, its not a problem that actually bothers anyone.
Perhaps if there was actually a standard intuitive way to do it, something as simple as say... putting a key in the ignition and turning it like a car... then you might be right.
The reality of it is, most people I know have far better things to do than giving a shit about this sort of thing so autorun works well.
As surprising as it may seem, some people have better things to do than play with a PC to understand how it all works.
Saying it never should have been there just makes it obvious your a curmudgeon who doesn't actually have anything of value to the discussion but repeats of what we've already heard a thousand times before and rejected. Yes there are security issues to worry about, but unless you're completely locking down the PC the person who's going to get you infected via autorun is going to do it some other way do to their ignorance anyway, so from a practical standpoint you just sound like a raving loon.
Security is worthless if no one bothers to use the system.
You are most certainly wrong, there are many 100% legitimate ways that speech is 'limited' in the world.
A simple example would be that you have no right to free speech in my home. You certainly have the right to not be in my home, but while there I get to control the speech, like it or not.
You can't run your mouth in a courtroom unless the judge recognizes you.
The right to free speech doesn't mean you get carte blanche to say whatever you want, sorry.
Isn't this what was supposed to happen in the first place... and everyone got all uppity because they would never give up those powers... and here they are... letting them expire...
Queue the 200 comments now ranting about how evil the government is and how this is just them taking another set of rights away from us... even though its them losing that ability.
and most of those can't saturate 802.11a/g. Even the highest speed FIOS & DOCCIS 3 rates can't quite saturate 802.11n.
DOCSIS 1.x can easily saturate a/g multiple times over with a stream up to 40mb/s even if there is only a WAP and one wifi node, forget it with multiple wifi hosts doing transfers.
DOCSIS3 can bond up to 4 channels together to carry 160mb/s in theory, again, completely and utterly saturating n with a single wifi node.
Yes, I said in theory, and you'll never see speeds that high in the wild, but you'll also never get the theoretical full speed out of your wireless router either, well except maybe in Antartica or something where you have the only 5ghz device for 3000 miles around you... as long as no one turns on a microwave.
if 50% + 1 want something, everyone must go along by force.
Or... get this, they can come up with 2 alternate solutions that is more appropriate to a larger number of people!
There is rarely something politicians deal with that doesn't have multiple ways of solving the problem allowing you to chose something that doesn't split people 50/50. Your viewpoint is far too simplistic to be useful for discussion.
Sure... AFTER everyone stops talking about the crazy stunt... people will probably stop talking about Samsung SD cards. And in a couple weeks people will stop talking about Super Bowl ads... and its the most expensive advertising time in the world. But in both cases, a lot of people will have already bought the product before they attention fads away.
Thats how marketing works. Thats WHY marketing exists... to get people information about your product and get people interested in it. No press is bad press when it comes to marketing. If people are looking at you for just about any reason, they aren't looking at your competition.
While the submitter may be too much of a poser geek to be interested in things like the paper airplane design and the course something would take to find its way to Sydney from Germany or any of the thousands of other neat things that can be learned from this event, I will certainly be spending some time looking into it and that means I'll most certainly see a whole bunch of Samsung SD cards and advertisements along the way.
The fact that you posted this story to slashdot more or less entirely invalidates your summary statement. We're talking about their SD cards right now. It worked.
Note to submitter: You probably should ever consider taking up a job in public relations or marketing.
Seriously, did either of you bother to read the proposal at hand?
Unless you mean the US wants to give other countries a fair part in the process of deciding new TLDs... instead of being in complete control as it is now... then you might have been right, but you pretty much said the exact opposite of what the proposal states.
The US already has veto power. TLDs are decided by ICANN, a US Government run organization. The US has complete control already.
The proposal basically makes it so if the US so YES to a TLD, other countries have a way to tell us to fuck off and discuss it and maybe do it anyway or not... BASED ON CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP.
This would give other countries an ability to veto actions made by the US and would take complete control away from the US which would be effectively removing the US's veto ability.
Seriously, both of you need to actually read the shit you post before hand, slashdot has become truely pathetic thanks to this type of crap, might as well go read facebook wall posts, probably more accurate than you guys are these days.
no, it WAS US that demanded it thanks to the "race to the bottom".
Something to be said about overpaying for a Mac. I paid more, got less, and a new OS to experience. You do get what you pay for. I'm not saying you should buy Apple or be an Apple fanboy, but its things like this that make me glad I bought a mac. I just put in my OS disk and start over with everything working driver wise right then. No crapware to remove, no need for me to make my own disk image for restoring like I had to do on my wifes last laptop... an HP... loading with crap.
Like you said, the main difference... I can practically buy my wifes HP laptop with just the amount of taxes I paid on mine, but thats the cost of buying a laptop for a professional developer/occasional FPS/RTS gamer versus someone that uses a laptop to run thunderbird, chrome and itunes and occasionally some random Java apps.
Like I said, not trying to sell a Mac, just DIY or go to your local computer shop and let them build you something, you'll pay more up front, but probably less depending on how much your time is worth. For me personally, it would have been cheaper to pay twice as much for my wifes laptop than it was to buy and put my time into reinstalling Windows with all the drivers, Office, ect. after you take into account the frustration that goes along with it.
Is still WAY more expensive than a console... because the entire console is going to cost about that, and you don't need to buy hard drives, cases, motherboards, processors, ram and whatever I'm not thinking of.
You also don't have to worry about drivers on your console, and your not going to run into a hardware compatibility problem unless you use some unbadged knockoff add-on.
And in 6 months, you'll need another $250 video card and probably some ram now that we have 64 bit OSes
While I'm not arguing that its a long term vehicle or that its safe to latch it on to the ISS and let it sit, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about so...
I really feel sorry for the under 30 crowd who never got to see the Apollo missions. Personally the only one I remember is the Apollo/Soyez linkup but being a kid in the 70s you had the impression that things were happening and that the future was in spaceflight...
Not only did that moment show me the future was space flight... it also showed us that two world powers who had leared to hate each other with a passion over the previous 30 years or so could actually work out enough of their fear of each other to work on something that means so much to mankind.
As cheesy as it sounds, living in the cold war made that moment give me hope. Its sad that younger people today look at the world and talk about how horrible it is and don't have the slightest clue how much better it actually is, I admit not for EVERYONE, but for most.
Now days the only thing I fear is a terrorist. Not because they are going to hijack and plane and kill me (which is less likely to happen statistically than being killed in an Indonesian Tsunami when you aren't even in Indonesia.) but because the government is going to give some organization a whole shit load of money to put up some faux security bullshit that is completely ineffective yet adds massive amounts of frustration for me. As shitty as that is... its far better than the cold war.
As shuttle flights consist of multiple millions of miles traveled without so much as an oil change.
After 130 or so flights, there have been 2 mishaps.
Over a billion kilometers and 2 mishaps...
Yes, it is safe with the government. At least as safe as any new type of travel into areas that we can not survive in without technology to help us anyway.
Maybe you should spend a little more time learning what you're talking about rather than government bashing because you think it makes you cool.
Smart OEMs paid the extra $5 for OEM copies of Windows and didn't have to bundle Windows with each computer sold.)
The smart ones.... you mean the ones that are no longer in business cause they couldn't compete price wise... those OEMs? Not sure how smart they were really.
Heres a hint, if your windows machine isn't home built... just run Windows Update and you'll get good enough for everyone but gamers. You'll get the latest WHQL driver basically with no effort. Sony machines will be fine with a fresh install + windows update to current. No you won't get drivers for some random peice of odd or cheapass noname hardware, but you probably don't have any of that in a Sony laptop.
Unless you need a new driver for a specific reason, theres no need to use anything other than whats provided by windows update.
Those 30 year old aircraft are torn down completely after every single flight and completely rebuilt after checking every part on them in excruciating detail.
There is no other vehicle in the history of our species that has traveled more miles per accident than the shuttle fleet.
They aren't some ragged out old Boeing 737 flying out of Madagascar that hasn't been serviced in 15 years and was deemed unsafe for flights in the US.
They aren't unsafe, we just don't care as much anymore and a much larger selection of other countries who can launch orbital payloads reduces the need for us to continue the program.
Its an indication of product quality. They've given up on competing based on the quality of the product they are releasing and instead are now trying to stay relevant using marketing ploys.
Major versions are traditionally thought of as having new features, point releases are bug fixes and maybe minor features that should have been there already anyway.
Version numbers had meaning until Microsoft decided to fuck things up by using random naming schemes for marketing, confusing the shit out of people, then random other people started playing version number catchup/showoff. Throw in the fact that most OSS projects never make 1.0 because they set the goal as something ridiculously unobtainable in an acceptable amount of time or interest feigns before a major stable release and it just makes numbers useless.
In the organization I work for, version numbers have meaning and our clients appreciate knowing how to interpret them. Of course, we also actually support integrating with large network infrastructures where Mozilla seems to think actually giving the features that corporations want to control the software on their machines and facilitate simplified management are not worth the effort.
Fewer features in each major release should mean more time spent fixing bugs
While true in theory, the problem is that they've just changed the position of the number on the balance sheet, not actually changed the totals. They started out with say 50 new features in version 5 and one year from today and turned it into 10 features per revision, and we're going to do 5 releases this year!
This change is nothing more than a marketing ploy, it won't change the fact that Mozilla is once again just like the Netscape. Producing a buggy, slow, bloated browser because someone wants a new project to work on thats cool and innovative rather than fixing all the shitty parts of the existing code.
Hariyfeet, if you read this, I want to remind you once again that Firefox deciding not to make use of Windows Integrity Controls is not equivalent to running the browser as a root process. Sigh.
That sounds like one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard someone have to make... so I have to ask... what exactly are you referring too? Is this in reference to a dev list thread or something I can find?
Just curious as to what the rest of that conversation looked like:)
Hopefully the same options will be available for us when our government gets around to implementing our own kill switch.
I realize that most of us here on slashdot will be lucky enough to never experience this happening even though slashdot makes it out like all the governments of the world are trying to switch it off tomorrow but theres something you need to think about before making such retarded statements.
By the time the government gets around to shutting down peering with the rest of the world... using the Internet will be the last thing on your mind. The Internet isn't going to protect you from the riots outside your home or put food on your table, and I promise you those things will be what you'll be worrying about when the US 'flips the Internet kill switch'.
When countries devolve to that point people actually start to care about the actual necessities of life... not how they are going to tweet about it or updating their facebook page.
Would they even pay for someone in part of the USA who can't afford access in a remote area?
Yes, there is a charge on all telephone lines in the USA that was added as a way to subsidize access to rural areas of the nation so everyone could have affordable connectivity. Its the law already.
Of course, the teleco's took the money and provided no infrastructure... just fat bonuses to their execs and traffic shaping equipment so they wouldn't have to upgrade their infrastructure to actually deliver what they've sold people.
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Considering the phone when 'death gripped' still out performs almost everything else on the market, its really fucking retarded to call it 'the death grip problem'. I really wish we'd stop using extreme names for trivial to non-existent issues.
Yes, the signal quality goes down. No, its not a problem that actually bothers anyone.
Perhaps if there was actually a standard intuitive way to do it, something as simple as say ... putting a key in the ignition and turning it like a car ... then you might be right.
The reality of it is, most people I know have far better things to do than giving a shit about this sort of thing so autorun works well.
As surprising as it may seem, some people have better things to do than play with a PC to understand how it all works.
Saying it never should have been there just makes it obvious your a curmudgeon who doesn't actually have anything of value to the discussion but repeats of what we've already heard a thousand times before and rejected. Yes there are security issues to worry about, but unless you're completely locking down the PC the person who's going to get you infected via autorun is going to do it some other way do to their ignorance anyway, so from a practical standpoint you just sound like a raving loon.
Security is worthless if no one bothers to use the system.
Why should that be a right exactly?
Rights are not things that cost money.
You have a right to speak your mind, you aren't entitled to have someone else pay for it for you.
You are most certainly wrong, there are many 100% legitimate ways that speech is 'limited' in the world.
A simple example would be that you have no right to free speech in my home. You certainly have the right to not be in my home, but while there I get to control the speech, like it or not.
You can't run your mouth in a courtroom unless the judge recognizes you.
The right to free speech doesn't mean you get carte blanche to say whatever you want, sorry.
Isn't this what was supposed to happen in the first place ... and everyone got all uppity because they would never give up those powers ... and here they are ... letting them expire ...
Queue the 200 comments now ranting about how evil the government is and how this is just them taking another set of rights away from us ... even though its them losing that ability.
DOCSIS 1.x can easily saturate a/g multiple times over with a stream up to 40mb/s even if there is only a WAP and one wifi node, forget it with multiple wifi hosts doing transfers.
DOCSIS3 can bond up to 4 channels together to carry 160mb/s in theory, again, completely and utterly saturating n with a single wifi node.
Yes, I said in theory, and you'll never see speeds that high in the wild, but you'll also never get the theoretical full speed out of your wireless router either, well except maybe in Antartica or something where you have the only 5ghz device for 3000 miles around you ... as long as no one turns on a microwave.
Or ... get this, they can come up with 2 alternate solutions that is more appropriate to a larger number of people!
There is rarely something politicians deal with that doesn't have multiple ways of solving the problem allowing you to chose something that doesn't split people 50/50. Your viewpoint is far too simplistic to be useful for discussion.
Sure ... AFTER everyone stops talking about the crazy stunt ... people will probably stop talking about Samsung SD cards. And in a couple weeks people will stop talking about Super Bowl ads ... and its the most expensive advertising time in the world. But in both cases, a lot of people will have already bought the product before they attention fads away.
Thats how marketing works. Thats WHY marketing exists ... to get people information about your product and get people interested in it. No press is bad press when it comes to marketing. If people are looking at you for just about any reason, they aren't looking at your competition.
While the submitter may be too much of a poser geek to be interested in things like the paper airplane design and the course something would take to find its way to Sydney from Germany or any of the thousands of other neat things that can be learned from this event, I will certainly be spending some time looking into it and that means I'll most certainly see a whole bunch of Samsung SD cards and advertisements along the way.
The fact that you posted this story to slashdot more or less entirely invalidates your summary statement. We're talking about their SD cards right now. It worked.
Note to submitter: You probably should ever consider taking up a job in public relations or marketing.
Right, because the big guys who do tetris clones buy the rights up front and avoid all this anyway.
Seriously, did either of you bother to read the proposal at hand?
Unless you mean the US wants to give other countries a fair part in the process of deciding new TLDs ... instead of being in complete control as it is now ... then you might have been right, but you pretty much said the exact opposite of what the proposal states.
The US already has veto power. TLDs are decided by ICANN, a US Government run organization. The US has complete control already.
The proposal basically makes it so if the US so YES to a TLD, other countries have a way to tell us to fuck off and discuss it and maybe do it anyway or not ... BASED ON CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP.
This would give other countries an ability to veto actions made by the US and would take complete control away from the US which would be effectively removing the US's veto ability.
Seriously, both of you need to actually read the shit you post before hand, slashdot has become truely pathetic thanks to this type of crap, might as well go read facebook wall posts, probably more accurate than you guys are these days.
Something to be said about overpaying for a Mac. I paid more, got less, and a new OS to experience. You do get what you pay for. I'm not saying you should buy Apple or be an Apple fanboy, but its things like this that make me glad I bought a mac. I just put in my OS disk and start over with everything working driver wise right then. No crapware to remove, no need for me to make my own disk image for restoring like I had to do on my wifes last laptop ... an HP ... loading with crap.
Like you said, the main difference ... I can practically buy my wifes HP laptop with just the amount of taxes I paid on mine, but thats the cost of buying a laptop for a professional developer/occasional FPS/RTS gamer versus someone that uses a laptop to run thunderbird, chrome and itunes and occasionally some random Java apps.
Like I said, not trying to sell a Mac, just DIY or go to your local computer shop and let them build you something, you'll pay more up front, but probably less depending on how much your time is worth. For me personally, it would have been cheaper to pay twice as much for my wifes laptop than it was to buy and put my time into reinstalling Windows with all the drivers, Office, ect. after you take into account the frustration that goes along with it.
Is still WAY more expensive than a console ... because the entire console is going to cost about that, and you don't need to buy hard drives, cases, motherboards, processors, ram and whatever I'm not thinking of.
You also don't have to worry about drivers on your console, and your not going to run into a hardware compatibility problem unless you use some unbadged knockoff add-on.
And in 6 months, you'll need another $250 video card and probably some ram now that we have 64 bit OSes
someone will make a retarded joke about data owning you or something ...
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Better do some fact checking:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_shuttle_missions
And more important, specifically STS-80 which was a 17.6 day mission for the Columbia and it never got near the ISS or Mir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-80
While I'm not arguing that its a long term vehicle or that its safe to latch it on to the ISS and let it sit, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about so ...
Not only did that moment show me the future was space flight ... it also showed us that two world powers who had leared to hate each other with a passion over the previous 30 years or so could actually work out enough of their fear of each other to work on something that means so much to mankind.
As cheesy as it sounds, living in the cold war made that moment give me hope. Its sad that younger people today look at the world and talk about how horrible it is and don't have the slightest clue how much better it actually is, I admit not for EVERYONE, but for most.
Now days the only thing I fear is a terrorist. Not because they are going to hijack and plane and kill me (which is less likely to happen statistically than being killed in an Indonesian Tsunami when you aren't even in Indonesia.) but because the government is going to give some organization a whole shit load of money to put up some faux security bullshit that is completely ineffective yet adds massive amounts of frustration for me. As shitty as that is ... its far better than the cold war.
As shuttle flights consist of multiple millions of miles traveled without so much as an oil change.
After 130 or so flights, there have been 2 mishaps.
Over a billion kilometers and 2 mishaps ...
Yes, it is safe with the government. At least as safe as any new type of travel into areas that we can not survive in without technology to help us anyway.
Maybe you should spend a little more time learning what you're talking about rather than government bashing because you think it makes you cool.
The smart ones .... you mean the ones that are no longer in business cause they couldn't compete price wise ... those OEMs? Not sure how smart they were really.
Heres a hint, if your windows machine isn't home built ... just run Windows Update and you'll get good enough for everyone but gamers. You'll get the latest WHQL driver basically with no effort. Sony machines will be fine with a fresh install + windows update to current. No you won't get drivers for some random peice of odd or cheapass noname hardware, but you probably don't have any of that in a Sony laptop.
Unless you need a new driver for a specific reason, theres no need to use anything other than whats provided by windows update.
Those 30 year old aircraft are torn down completely after every single flight and completely rebuilt after checking every part on them in excruciating detail.
There is no other vehicle in the history of our species that has traveled more miles per accident than the shuttle fleet.
They aren't some ragged out old Boeing 737 flying out of Madagascar that hasn't been serviced in 15 years and was deemed unsafe for flights in the US.
They aren't unsafe, we just don't care as much anymore and a much larger selection of other countries who can launch orbital payloads reduces the need for us to continue the program.
Its an indication of product quality. They've given up on competing based on the quality of the product they are releasing and instead are now trying to stay relevant using marketing ploys.
Major versions are traditionally thought of as having new features, point releases are bug fixes and maybe minor features that should have been there already anyway.
Version numbers had meaning until Microsoft decided to fuck things up by using random naming schemes for marketing, confusing the shit out of people, then random other people started playing version number catchup/showoff. Throw in the fact that most OSS projects never make 1.0 because they set the goal as something ridiculously unobtainable in an acceptable amount of time or interest feigns before a major stable release and it just makes numbers useless.
In the organization I work for, version numbers have meaning and our clients appreciate knowing how to interpret them. Of course, we also actually support integrating with large network infrastructures where Mozilla seems to think actually giving the features that corporations want to control the software on their machines and facilitate simplified management are not worth the effort.
While true in theory, the problem is that they've just changed the position of the number on the balance sheet, not actually changed the totals. They started out with say 50 new features in version 5 and one year from today and turned it into 10 features per revision, and we're going to do 5 releases this year!
This change is nothing more than a marketing ploy, it won't change the fact that Mozilla is once again just like the Netscape. Producing a buggy, slow, bloated browser because someone wants a new project to work on thats cool and innovative rather than fixing all the shitty parts of the existing code.
That sounds like one of the stupidest statements I've ever heard someone have to make ... so I have to ask ... what exactly are you referring too? Is this in reference to a dev list thread or something I can find?
Just curious as to what the rest of that conversation looked like :)
I realize that most of us here on slashdot will be lucky enough to never experience this happening even though slashdot makes it out like all the governments of the world are trying to switch it off tomorrow but theres something you need to think about before making such retarded statements.
By the time the government gets around to shutting down peering with the rest of the world ... using the Internet will be the last thing on your mind. The Internet isn't going to protect you from the riots outside your home or put food on your table, and I promise you those things will be what you'll be worrying about when the US 'flips the Internet kill switch'.
When countries devolve to that point people actually start to care about the actual necessities of life ... not how they are going to tweet about it or updating their facebook page.
Yes, there is a charge on all telephone lines in the USA that was added as a way to subsidize access to rural areas of the nation so everyone could have affordable connectivity. Its the law already.
Of course, the teleco's took the money and provided no infrastructure ... just fat bonuses to their execs and traffic shaping equipment so they wouldn't have to upgrade their infrastructure to actually deliver what they've sold people.
Not sure why you got modded down, your statement matches my limited experience with HAMs as well. They remind me a lot of NASCAR fans.