when IIS makes it very, VERY easy to administer a server. Why do you think IIS is popular?! Because it's POWERFUL *and* it's EASY TO USE.
This is the reason we have things like Sobig affecting so many people. It's a misconcenption that Windows is easier to administer, just because it has an 'easy to use' interface. Windows is every bit as difficult to properly administer as any other system. You should also probably note that Linux has - and has had for some time - a GUI for administration as well. So does just about every other flavor of Unix (I particularly enjoyed IRIX back in the day).
BSD is alot more mainstream than people (often management) think. BSD is in all kinds of net appliances handling routing/filtering/loadbalancing/etc. The companies that buy them are in many cases unaware they're running BSD, since the package usually includes remote support.
There's no mention of the virus being on the CLASS system itself.
Then why shut the system down? Perhaps I wasn't clear: There's absolutely no reason to connect to your 'corporate payroll running on some uber unix megasystem' via anything other than one designated TCP port (in other words, there should be no way to directly access the underlying OS for the user).
There's only one way for the mentioned virus to propopate off from big iron or Unix servers to other desktops or Windows servers: CIFS. So unless people were mounting Windows shares from the server it would have to be some sort of Windows box, probably running MS SQL Server.
Yes, I have (and do) on a Linux Cluster. No real problems, although I have other gripes with the system as a whole (actually, it's a PBS gripe, more than anything:-))
Dont kid yourself... a good majority of the momentum Linux is gaining, is directly linked to it being cheaper... not because its technically superior! A whole bunch of wind would be taking out of Linux's sail's ( in the corporate landscape anyways... ) if MS started giving away windows.
I think a good majority of the momentum Linux has recently gained has been because of the media. True, the media is probably talking up Linux based on it's price, but that's not the sole reason. Most places I know are at least trying Linux, first based on what they read, then on price. Once they use it for a while, they find they like it for technical reasons, not price-point.
You're a shining example of what's wrong with a two-party system. Automatically point to the other side when something wrong happens. Stupid lawsuits aren't the domain of a single party. There's plenty of stupidity to go around in any political party.
I have a Zaurus 5500 and really love it. I use it everyday. My one big gripe is lack of battery time.
If they could get a Linux PDA that does everything currenty being done with the Zaurus to last even as long a decent laptop, I'd be happy. 1 - 1 1/2 hours before needing a recharge is horrible.
Granted, lighted screen and CF card usage are power eaters, but it'd be nice to be able to have the thing on for an entire cross-country flight.
For example, we can have alerts automatically pop up on schedule (kinda like Outlook) in a client app, but not in an HTML page.
This can easily be done using a web server serving up the code and a browser handling the output. Coldfusion, PHP, hell even good old perl all can deal with this.
I use Linux as my primary desktop at work (sys admin - mostly Unix, but a few Windows boxes). I can do pretty much everything I need to do on Linux, with the help of Crossover Office for Office apps and email (Lotus Notes). However, we recently purchased a raritan telereach console/switch system. THE big selling point was a web interface. Too bad they didn't bother to mention those pesky ActiveX/OCX details. Pretty much the only reason I keep a Windows box on my desk as well.
One of the cool (and sometimes harmful) things about open databases is that there is no entry fee...meaning anybody and their brother can set up a MySQL server.
Not to knock MySQL, but this is actually part of hte problem. You get anybody and their brother setting something up that then crashes and burns.
I don't care what anybody says, setting up a database is nothing trivial.
Regarding your comment that MySQL would go head to head with Oracle or SQL Server is, frankly, laughable.
I would suggest, partucularly to someone familiar with Oracle, PostgreSQL over MySQL any day. In addition to MySQL's much-hyped transactions (which have been in PostgreSQL forever), PostgreSQL has a procedural lanaguage with which Oracle folk would feel quite at-home.
Let's not forget that PostgreSQL's SQL implementation is much more standards compliant.
Again, this is not to rant on MySQL, but it kind of irks me that someone can slap up a MySQL DB and claim to know all about databases.
So if it was SGI that inserted the code, why is it, again, that they're suing IBM?
Initially, wasn't the SCO party line that IBM took AIX code and contributed it to Linux?
It would not have been any harder to download and burn 9.1 CDs. Consider this, however: the Mandrake 9.0 CDs were downloaded and burned well after the beginning of the year, yet 9.1 was not released. Do you really think it's realistic to assume users download and burn CDs more than once, maybe twice a year? I don't. Other posters have said that they consider the rapid release what you are of both Mandrake and RedHat is too much, and I tend to agree.
Honestly, how would you feel if you paid for software, only to be told to re-purchase the next version in less that one year's time? That's basically what you are proposing.
Again, you're absolutely right in that neither you nor I would know if 9.1 would have addressed the issues I ran into with 9.0. Where would you find that info? On Mandrake or RedHat's site? I don't think so. Both sites focus on GUI improvements, and not much else.
My original post was merely stating the differences between two different distributions, downloaded at approximately the same time.
Both Mandrake and RH were able to handle my wireless card(s) out of the box - Cisco Aironet and Linksys. If you're talking internal wireless (such as broadcom, etc) then yes, you'll have problems. - just as you would doing a full install of Win2K/XP.
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You don't have to pay anything. There has been no judgement, nothing. Quit posturing.
There's only one way for the mentioned virus to propopate off from big iron or Unix servers to other desktops or Windows servers: CIFS. So unless people were mounting Windows shares from the server it would have to be some sort of Windows box, probably running MS SQL Server.
Yes, I have (and do) on a Linux Cluster. No real problems, although I have other gripes with the system as a whole (actually, it's a PBS gripe, more than anything
That's not what I said. Go back and re-read.
Mensa, huh? Your IQ may be high, but your short term memory is shot to hell. You posted this exact same thing yesterday.
How is PCI/SCSI superior on Sun hardware, compared to anybody else's implemetation? You do know that SBUS is long gone, right?
but Wells Fargo in California already use some form of Windows on their ATMs. I've seen a C:> prompt a couple of times on their ATM machines.
Normally, trade shows are fairly packed.
I think a good majority of the momentum Linux has recently gained has been because of the media. True, the media is probably talking up Linux based on it's price, but that's not the sole reason. Most places I know are at least trying Linux, first based on what they read, then on price. Once they use it for a while, they find they like it for technical reasons, not price-point.
You're preaching to the choir. My response was to the idiot anonymous coward, not the insightful parent post.
He makes some very valid points. Can you?
You're a shining example of what's wrong with a two-party system. Automatically point to the other side when something wrong happens. Stupid lawsuits aren't the domain of a single party. There's plenty of stupidity to go around in any political party.
I have a Zaurus 5500 and really love it. I use it everyday. My one big gripe is lack of battery time. If they could get a Linux PDA that does everything currenty being done with the Zaurus to last even as long a decent laptop, I'd be happy. 1 - 1 1/2 hours before needing a recharge is horrible. Granted, lighted screen and CF card usage are power eaters, but it'd be nice to be able to have the thing on for an entire cross-country flight.
This can easily be done using a web server serving up the code and a browser handling the output. Coldfusion, PHP, hell even good old perl all can deal with this.
I use Linux as my primary desktop at work (sys admin - mostly Unix, but a few Windows boxes). I can do pretty much everything I need to do on Linux, with the help of Crossover Office for Office apps and email (Lotus Notes). However, we recently purchased a raritan telereach console/switch system. THE big selling point was a web interface. Too bad they didn't bother to mention those pesky ActiveX/OCX details. Pretty much the only reason I keep a Windows box on my desk as well.
Not to knock MySQL, but this is actually part of hte problem. You get anybody and their brother setting something up that then crashes and burns.
I don't care what anybody says, setting up a database is nothing trivial.
Regarding your comment that MySQL would go head to head with Oracle or SQL Server is, frankly, laughable.
I would suggest, partucularly to someone familiar with Oracle, PostgreSQL over MySQL any day. In addition to MySQL's much-hyped transactions (which have been in PostgreSQL forever), PostgreSQL has a procedural lanaguage with which Oracle folk would feel quite at-home.
Let's not forget that PostgreSQL's SQL implementation is much more standards compliant.
Again, this is not to rant on MySQL, but it kind of irks me that someone can slap up a MySQL DB and claim to know all about databases.
So if it was SGI that inserted the code, why is it, again, that they're suing IBM?
Initially, wasn't the SCO party line that IBM took AIX code and contributed it to Linux?
Stop repeating yourself.
Not at all. They're basing the future of their business on Linux, not BSD.
It would not have been any harder to download and burn 9.1 CDs. Consider this, however: the Mandrake 9.0 CDs were downloaded and burned well after the beginning of the year, yet 9.1 was not released. Do you really think it's realistic to assume users download and burn CDs more than once, maybe twice a year? I don't. Other posters have said that they consider the rapid release what you are of both Mandrake and RedHat is too much, and I tend to agree.
Honestly, how would you feel if you paid for software, only to be told to re-purchase the next version in less that one year's time? That's basically what you are proposing.
Again, you're absolutely right in that neither you nor I would know if 9.1 would have addressed the issues I ran into with 9.0. Where would you find that info? On Mandrake or RedHat's site? I don't think so. Both sites focus on GUI improvements, and not much else.
My original post was merely stating the differences between two different distributions, downloaded at approximately the same time.
Both Mandrake and RH were able to handle my wireless card(s) out of the box - Cisco Aironet and Linksys. If you're talking internal wireless (such as broadcom, etc) then yes, you'll have problems. - just as you would doing a full install of Win2K/XP.