Please explain to me how Apple and the iPhone is dangerously near monopoly status while AT&T is not? Right now, Apple is only on one telcom in the US. Long before they get monopoly status, that telcom will have to gain monopoly status. So, why am I only hearing about this in light of the iPhone and not in terms of an AT&T monopoly?
People are complaining about Apple only being on AT&T right now and at the same time at them having a monopoly. Imagine what it would be like if Apple opened up the iPhone for other US telcoms.
Most of our stuff works from our testing, but the vendor won't say if they'll support it or not. Since we pay lots of money every year for support, we want it. Only one app simply won't work in Win7 and since all need to work together, it will hold us back if nothing else. Currently everything works fine in XP and we have it down, however, it's getting to the point that we're having to jump through hoops to get XP installed on new hardware. I have at least one (once) new computer that has been sitting in my workspace for two years because the manufacturer has never made XP drivers for it.
Yet you are willing to consider the rebranded version which is what win 7 is.
Well, ya. Now that it has a sufficient number of service packs.
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My company is ready to migrate once our vendor applications are compatible with Win7. Some won't run. Some haven't been verified by the company to work and our company won't move forward till the bendor says it's ok. Some are web apps that won't work with IE8. They will work in compatibility mode but once again, unless the vendor signs off on that and agrees that they won't corrupt our database or lack features doing such, management does not want to move forward. We're also a hospital and healthcare if involved directly so we don't want to beta test anything. We'd like to move forward to 64 bit Win7, but until ALL the applications we use can, we have to stick with WinXP because they are all used together on the same machines.
For the record, nobody ever considered Vista. Not us. Not the vendors.
It's an unproven device which few people had even seen, let alone had the chance to try out,...
What are you talking about? It is essentially a larger version of the iPod Touch or iPhone (without the phone part). It was generally accepted as what it was going to be as all indications and reviews showed that. While some people made fun of that, many of the people that preordered an iPad were probably like me and while browsing on their iPhone, thinking to themselves the entire time "Gee, I really wish I had a larger version of one of these."
None of which would have happened had Android not shown up.
Hardly. Competition might help shape what shows up in new products, but new features will constantly show up in newer products. It's called 'feature creep' and is how Apple convinces owners of currently working hardware to upgrade. It started with the iPod. Each new version comes out with a couple of new features the old one lacked. Larger HD, better screen, games, etc. Even though their current products is still working fine, the user decides they want the new features and buys a new one. Same is going on with the phone.
It's a pretty scary future indeed, but sadly with iOS's dominance I can't see how to stop the freight train.
Well, they could start by coming out with a superior product. Android's out there and doing well. For that matter, I so no possibility of an Apple monoculture so long as they are AT&T only. Apple is practically forcing people to buy and try other people's similar products by limiting themselves to one telcom in the US.
That statement implies that not only AT&T, but other carriers, will be carrying the iPhone. Which other carriers? That fact would be by far the biggest news about the new iPhone. And one step away from the total vertical monopoly Jobs has managed to lock people into if they want to "Think Different" about their phone.
Probably the carriers for all the other countries. AT&T is only the carrier for the USA. Other countries have other carriers and due to local laws, perhaps even not locked to a carrier. Buy your iPhone in Belgium, Luxembourg, Russia, Greece, or Italy and you can use it with any carrier as it's not locked. Many other carriers in Europe will unlock your iPhone after your contract is over.
Dry summaries don't get hits, click throughs, and readers. Nobody wants to read a dry summary and if it had one, you'd be asking why it was even posted. Why do you think we have so many Apple stories here lately. While I do think that they are relevant, even the people who are sick of them are reading and posting. If they're reading them, they must want them. Topics with lots of posts will get listed and if sensational headlines will get even more readers. It's a fact of news older than journalism.
Steve Jobs...he's more like Emperor Ming from Flash Gordon. He has immense power, but rather than use it for the betterment of his people (his customers), he makes arbitrary decisions for his own amusement. Attempts to appeal to him with logic fail. Attempts to sway his emotions fail. Even decisions that seem like they would harm Apple only make him stronger in the long run.
Actually, I'd say that Apple is more like the Federation. They are using their power for what they see as the betterment of their people. They have all these rules as to how society should be run: no money, no alcohol, etc. If you ever want to join Star Fleet and move up in the ranks, you'd better be in line with all those rules. However, if you don't want to follow the rules, you can always just pack up and head to uncharted territories or join the borg, and they won't stop you.
So how, exactly, do you rationalize seriously saying that it came about because of the iPhone?
Well, they had a phone under development, but when did they actually start work on a full face touch screen interface with a real browser? That is the actual advancement the iPhone presented. Microsoft already had tablets and slates, but it was/will be the new OS and UI that makes them useable. As according to wikipedia, the touch keyboard wasn't added to Android till 1.5 which was displayed till two years after the iPhone, makes me wonder what Android would have looked like if the iPhone had never come out.
You did, as did the first person who responded to me.
Not really, because trying to say that not spending the $100 on apps over the life time of a phone that TFA mentions is saving money is like saying that not eating the after dinner mint that came with the check at a restaurant is dieting.
So, according to you, it's "seriously flawed reasoning" to value the money I work hard for and not piss it away? I wish I had your job then!
Well, I'm really glad I don't have your job if the typical app price is so important to you. For the price of a movie, you could buy one or two professional apps that will probably give you more time of use each and at more convenient times before you change your phone. So maybe, you're the type of person that never goes to the movie theater because you'll eventually pick up the DVD for a dollar several years later, goes out to eat at a restaurant because you can cook food at home, or buys an espresso from a coffee shop (which is more than your typical app price these days), but most people aren't. Nobody is going to disagree with saving money, however the scale of savings you are talking about is pretty bizarre to most people I suspect. Given the typical $/hrs of use, I suspect that the price of apps you'd have to replace with a new phone compared to normal things in daily life most people do is trivial and buried in the noise of the cost of things like change put in tip jars.
Because they're the ones moving forward and being creative in the computer field with regards to consumer computers while everybody else is just following their lead? Microsoft is creating vaporware tablets to compete with the iPad. Android and the idea around it came out a year after and probably because of the iPhone and the design of its OS. HP is scavenging Palm for their own Apple inspired tablet rather than going with Windows. Things are changing as people are getting used to owning smart phones and being online just about anywhere they are located. This wasn't a feature advancement as my phone years before the iPhone could also (technically) go online, but the iPhone OS was the one that made it actually work like a browser and easy to do for the general public.
Braces are the proper term (ie British, eg Boots & Braces of Skinhead culture) for suspenders, or at least the type that don't clip onto your pants but button. I suspect that is what the OP is saying.
Citation please....or rather, from what I've read, the jobs go to where the people are. Most people decide where they want to live first, move there, and then look for a job. Efforts by cities such as Nashville to attract high tech industry and jobs have not done so well because even if they do attract the businesses with incentives, the businesses find that they cannot attract the workers.
The nucleation for this tends to be universities. Since that is where the skilled workers are with a community built up to keep those workers happy, it attracts business too. Cities that do not present attractive places to live have trouble attracting skilled workers and keeping businesses there. While some features such as good schools, low housing prices, etc that are usually considered as desirable, this is mostly to the skilled workers who have already established themselves and settled down already. Most fresh college graduates are still much like college students and need lively social scene involving music, food selection, and recreational activities. If a city doesn't have that, then it will find it hard to attract the base workers it needs to keep businesses. Likewise, I think if you look at the top selections, you will find that those places are known for such qualities.
I thought the unpublished speed of the SR-71 was around Mach 6?
The key bit here is not the speed but rather than it was a scramjet. The SR-71 may have even been faster but there is no chance that such a craft with those jet engines could ever reach orbit. Scramjets, once fully developed, should be able to or at least get us closer to it. As TFA says, this is like the step of going from prop driven aircraft to jet aircraft.
And before you say, 'yeah but this is 2010, they should be over that in these modern times!', remember that the real world is not like a game of Civilization; not all cultures started at the same time. In a few centuries, or less, Islam will be mellowed out.
More like it is a game of Civ IV and civilizations can change civics. For a long span of time, it was the muslim civ that was the secular one and didn't kill people for practicing their own religion. They are also the reason that much of the ancient writings of the Greeks survived. The Christians had burned them all like in the Library of Alexandria or used them to make more copies of their writings. While Christianity underwent the enlightenment, they were still catching up to some aspects of Muslim society. Rather, Islamic extremism is fairly new and is probably a reaction to poor economic conditions and the need to find a binding element to combat colonialism with. It strangely seemed to appear about the same time as Evangelical Christian Fundamentalism as we understand it today.
No corporate espionage ring would need to use a "safe house" or "safe restaurant" for that matter to drop off secret information or to secretly meet. It's the information age, dummies!
Right. It's the information age. Most counter espionage measures are going to be in the cloud. Networks will be sniffed. Phone conversations overheard. Routers watched. Traffic monitored. While transfer in the information age is quick, sneakernet still has its advantages. You can know if anybody has looked at or copied your data because they'll have to stop your person and get the files from them. Knowing that that method of transfered has been compromised, you can then switch to a different one. Internet age data transfer, like encrypted radio communication during ww2, has the disadvantage of that you don't know if the enemy is also getting it. If they are, and are better at code breaking than you are at code making, they have a constant stream of information. And when you are up against the government, guess who is going to have better people and gear when it comes to espionage?
I'm not saying they don't transfer secret information over the internet, but don't count meatspace out for not having it's uses still.
That this is the plot to "Colossus: The Forbin Project"; but with lawyers instead of ICBMs...
Yes, but although Colossus took over the world and eliminated the US and USSR while nuking a few cities to do so, and then went on to make himself a benevolent dictator, in the end, it turned out that there really was an alien threat and Colossus was needed to protect not only against the self destructive tendencies of mankind, but them as well.
And, besides, Apple didn't invent multitouch, and neither did the multitouch company they bought. What Apple did is what Apple always does: they pick some technology, try to get exclusive use of it somehow, and then hype it up, creating the impression that their products are unique and must-have devices.
Yet, sometimes it seems that this is the only thing that is able to drag the rest of the computer world kicking and screaming into the next decade. For example, Apple didn't invent USB. My first laptop, a 120 MHz Pentium Fujitsu, had a USB port. Years later when the iMac came out, there were still no devices for it and nobody really knew what it was and many claimed it would fail, or at least a device that relied upon it would. If it wasn't for Apple, the PC would would still probably be using serial (RS-232) and parallel ports. So don't tell me that they don't pick the better technologies and what they do pick is purely bought by us due to advertising. And then, when it comes right down to it, they're not doing anything different than the other companies would do, they are just doing it better which is pissing people like you off.
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Please explain to me how Apple and the iPhone is dangerously near monopoly status while AT&T is not? Right now, Apple is only on one telcom in the US. Long before they get monopoly status, that telcom will have to gain monopoly status. So, why am I only hearing about this in light of the iPhone and not in terms of an AT&T monopoly?
People are complaining about Apple only being on AT&T right now and at the same time at them having a monopoly. Imagine what it would be like if Apple opened up the iPhone for other US telcoms.
Funny, those are the same things motivating me at 42, except "Creating cool programs" has slipped to #3.
Most of our stuff works from our testing, but the vendor won't say if they'll support it or not. Since we pay lots of money every year for support, we want it. Only one app simply won't work in Win7 and since all need to work together, it will hold us back if nothing else. Currently everything works fine in XP and we have it down, however, it's getting to the point that we're having to jump through hoops to get XP installed on new hardware. I have at least one (once) new computer that has been sitting in my workspace for two years because the manufacturer has never made XP drivers for it.
Well, ya. Now that it has a sufficient number of service packs.
My company is ready to migrate once our vendor applications are compatible with Win7. Some won't run. Some haven't been verified by the company to work and our company won't move forward till the bendor says it's ok. Some are web apps that won't work with IE8. They will work in compatibility mode but once again, unless the vendor signs off on that and agrees that they won't corrupt our database or lack features doing such, management does not want to move forward. We're also a hospital and healthcare if involved directly so we don't want to beta test anything. We'd like to move forward to 64 bit Win7, but until ALL the applications we use can, we have to stick with WinXP because they are all used together on the same machines.
For the record, nobody ever considered Vista. Not us. Not the vendors.
What are you talking about? It is essentially a larger version of the iPod Touch or iPhone (without the phone part). It was generally accepted as what it was going to be as all indications and reviews showed that. While some people made fun of that, many of the people that preordered an iPad were probably like me and while browsing on their iPhone, thinking to themselves the entire time "Gee, I really wish I had a larger version of one of these."
Hardly. Competition might help shape what shows up in new products, but new features will constantly show up in newer products. It's called 'feature creep' and is how Apple convinces owners of currently working hardware to upgrade. It started with the iPod. Each new version comes out with a couple of new features the old one lacked. Larger HD, better screen, games, etc. Even though their current products is still working fine, the user decides they want the new features and buys a new one. Same is going on with the phone.
Well, they could start by coming out with a superior product. Android's out there and doing well. For that matter, I so no possibility of an Apple monoculture so long as they are AT&T only. Apple is practically forcing people to buy and try other people's similar products by limiting themselves to one telcom in the US.
Probably the carriers for all the other countries. AT&T is only the carrier for the USA. Other countries have other carriers and due to local laws, perhaps even not locked to a carrier. Buy your iPhone in Belgium, Luxembourg, Russia, Greece, or Italy and you can use it with any carrier as it's not locked. Many other carriers in Europe will unlock your iPhone after your contract is over.
Dry summaries don't get hits, click throughs, and readers. Nobody wants to read a dry summary and if it had one, you'd be asking why it was even posted. Why do you think we have so many Apple stories here lately. While I do think that they are relevant, even the people who are sick of them are reading and posting. If they're reading them, they must want them. Topics with lots of posts will get listed and if sensational headlines will get even more readers. It's a fact of news older than journalism.
Ya, but let's see the Cray-1 make a phone call and then fit in your pocket.
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Actually, I'd say that Apple is more like the Federation. They are using their power for what they see as the betterment of their people. They have all these rules as to how society should be run: no money, no alcohol, etc. If you ever want to join Star Fleet and move up in the ranks, you'd better be in line with all those rules. However, if you don't want to follow the rules, you can always just pack up and head to uncharted territories or join the borg, and they won't stop you.
I have no idea how moving to a Canadian cosmetic brand will eliminate security issues.
Well, they had a phone under development, but when did they actually start work on a full face touch screen interface with a real browser? That is the actual advancement the iPhone presented. Microsoft already had tablets and slates, but it was/will be the new OS and UI that makes them useable. As according to wikipedia, the touch keyboard wasn't added to Android till 1.5 which was displayed till two years after the iPhone, makes me wonder what Android would have looked like if the iPhone had never come out.
Not really, because trying to say that not spending the $100 on apps over the life time of a phone that TFA mentions is saving money is like saying that not eating the after dinner mint that came with the check at a restaurant is dieting.
Well, I'm really glad I don't have your job if the typical app price is so important to you. For the price of a movie, you could buy one or two professional apps that will probably give you more time of use each and at more convenient times before you change your phone. So maybe, you're the type of person that never goes to the movie theater because you'll eventually pick up the DVD for a dollar several years later, goes out to eat at a restaurant because you can cook food at home, or buys an espresso from a coffee shop (which is more than your typical app price these days), but most people aren't. Nobody is going to disagree with saving money, however the scale of savings you are talking about is pretty bizarre to most people I suspect. Given the typical $/hrs of use, I suspect that the price of apps you'd have to replace with a new phone compared to normal things in daily life most people do is trivial and buried in the noise of the cost of things like change put in tip jars.
Because they're the ones moving forward and being creative in the computer field with regards to consumer computers while everybody else is just following their lead? Microsoft is creating vaporware tablets to compete with the iPad. Android and the idea around it came out a year after and probably because of the iPhone and the design of its OS. HP is scavenging Palm for their own Apple inspired tablet rather than going with Windows. Things are changing as people are getting used to owning smart phones and being online just about anywhere they are located. This wasn't a feature advancement as my phone years before the iPhone could also (technically) go online, but the iPhone OS was the one that made it actually work like a browser and easy to do for the general public.
Braces are the proper term (ie British, eg Boots & Braces of Skinhead culture) for suspenders, or at least the type that don't clip onto your pants but button. I suspect that is what the OP is saying.
Citation please. ...or rather, from what I've read, the jobs go to where the people are. Most people decide where they want to live first, move there, and then look for a job. Efforts by cities such as Nashville to attract high tech industry and jobs have not done so well because even if they do attract the businesses with incentives, the businesses find that they cannot attract the workers.
The nucleation for this tends to be universities. Since that is where the skilled workers are with a community built up to keep those workers happy, it attracts business too. Cities that do not present attractive places to live have trouble attracting skilled workers and keeping businesses there. While some features such as good schools, low housing prices, etc that are usually considered as desirable, this is mostly to the skilled workers who have already established themselves and settled down already. Most fresh college graduates are still much like college students and need lively social scene involving music, food selection, and recreational activities. If a city doesn't have that, then it will find it hard to attract the base workers it needs to keep businesses. Likewise, I think if you look at the top selections, you will find that those places are known for such qualities.
The key bit here is not the speed but rather than it was a scramjet. The SR-71 may have even been faster but there is no chance that such a craft with those jet engines could ever reach orbit. Scramjets, once fully developed, should be able to or at least get us closer to it. As TFA says, this is like the step of going from prop driven aircraft to jet aircraft.
More like it is a game of Civ IV and civilizations can change civics. For a long span of time, it was the muslim civ that was the secular one and didn't kill people for practicing their own religion. They are also the reason that much of the ancient writings of the Greeks survived. The Christians had burned them all like in the Library of Alexandria or used them to make more copies of their writings. While Christianity underwent the enlightenment, they were still catching up to some aspects of Muslim society. Rather, Islamic extremism is fairly new and is probably a reaction to poor economic conditions and the need to find a binding element to combat colonialism with. It strangely seemed to appear about the same time as Evangelical Christian Fundamentalism as we understand it today.
Right. It's the information age. Most counter espionage measures are going to be in the cloud. Networks will be sniffed. Phone conversations overheard. Routers watched. Traffic monitored. While transfer in the information age is quick, sneakernet still has its advantages. You can know if anybody has looked at or copied your data because they'll have to stop your person and get the files from them. Knowing that that method of transfered has been compromised, you can then switch to a different one. Internet age data transfer, like encrypted radio communication during ww2, has the disadvantage of that you don't know if the enemy is also getting it. If they are, and are better at code breaking than you are at code making, they have a constant stream of information. And when you are up against the government, guess who is going to have better people and gear when it comes to espionage?
I'm not saying they don't transfer secret information over the internet, but don't count meatspace out for not having it's uses still.
Yes, but although Colossus took over the world and eliminated the US and USSR while nuking a few cities to do so, and then went on to make himself a benevolent dictator, in the end, it turned out that there really was an alien threat and Colossus was needed to protect not only against the self destructive tendencies of mankind, but them as well.
Yet, sometimes it seems that this is the only thing that is able to drag the rest of the computer world kicking and screaming into the next decade. For example, Apple didn't invent USB. My first laptop, a 120 MHz Pentium Fujitsu, had a USB port. Years later when the iMac came out, there were still no devices for it and nobody really knew what it was and many claimed it would fail, or at least a device that relied upon it would. If it wasn't for Apple, the PC would would still probably be using serial (RS-232) and parallel ports. So don't tell me that they don't pick the better technologies and what they do pick is purely bought by us due to advertising. And then, when it comes right down to it, they're not doing anything different than the other companies would do, they are just doing it better which is pissing people like you off.