Is there really not a non-autmotive niche that you can find? I can;t beleive that all internal combustion engines in all fields will disappear at midnight on 1/1/2028.
>> the knowledge from an undergraduate-level CS degree would barely get them past writing the main function.
Maybe your degree was that shitty, but mine wasn't. Actually writing my own web server (admittedly just a small one) was pretty easy actually. Certainly one of the easiest things I've developed. But I got my degree in the UK back when/where they take or at least took a different view about learning than the US.
>> The rest might be useful as background information
That's ridiculous. You do realise that most exploits are actually discovered and capitalised on by people using exactly the in-depth low level knowledge Im talking about right?
You can convince yourself that not knowing that stuff doesn't matter, but it really does. Your cookie-cutter "rely on conventional security policies and proper configuration of 3rd-party tools" approach is hardly creative thinking so eminently predictable to hackers and exactly what makes multiple companies all thinking/doing/following the same identical security trends all vulnerable to the same individual zero-day or other exploit.
>> The thing is, there's only one piece left missing in the electric car's replacement of gas/diesel: charging infrastructure.
Nope. There's way more missing than that. For example:
I need a 4 wheel drive truck thats capable of going off-road and is as affordable to buy as a used F150 or 4Runner. Where's my EV option? Also having wait even 30 minutes to fast charge everytime its empty is still not an option. Where's my EV that can be topped up from empty in 5 minutes like my gas car can? Also I would never buy a car that is connected, spies on me, or phones home. Where's my EV option that doesn't have any of that? Also I like rugged manly vehicles not an ugly small car that looks like its been styled by and for emasculated metrosexuals. Where's my EV option?
I work in an exclusively linux environment and have been doing so for maybe 20 years now over 6 different companies. Always PCs, never a mac in sight anywhere, except for one guy at one company who bought his own in.
I don;t believe the governments are simply posturing, I beleive they're already getting a giant hard-on over the amount of control over us that obliging us to drive so-called "intelligent" cars. Apart from the fact that the government is already facilitating the deployment obviously immature self-driving software out, their intention is clear that they want to limit and then ultimately totally remove our freedom to drive ourselves. They love that these intelligent cars are always tracking us, always phoning home and the cops/government can remotely take over/disable at a whim. I agree that they could enforce that tech on gasoline cars too, but it seems that the transition to electric facilitates its public acceptance by somehow making people think its just an expected part of the overall package and by making it "cool". Just look at Tesla as an example. Heck just look at the fact that you already can't buy any car made by any GM brand without Onstar already built-in and turned on (they achieve this by giving you a "free" 6 month trial), and many people have found that if you try and disconnect/remove the onstar module, the rest of the car starts failing in wierd ways. Presumably by design exactly to prevent such tampering with their spying system that you even paid for.
Yeah I agree. I've a gut feeling that Google's turn to become the nominal Evil Empire of the computer world will actually be quite soon.
I also considered Apple, but they don't have enough market share outside of phones to be taken seriously in the general computer space, besides they're pretty much universally hated already.
>> Despite environmentalist daydreams, gas and diesel engines will still be around and still be way most new vehicles are powered.
Yes they will still be around but they will be an increasingly expensive niche market. I'll bet that in 10 years they won't be even close to the majority of new vehicles.
Ther will probably still be some business entity around called Microsoft but it will be fully owned by the Chinese and will just be an IP troll. It will be pretty much irrelevant and insignificant in any real sense, They won't be making or selling any actual products by then.
>> computer science degrees are a fucking terrible predictor of success.
That maybe true, however the lack of one is quite a good predictor of failure for most SW jobs, especially if they chose to do an arts/humanities degree instead.
>> For the record, an undergraduate CS degree has almost nothing to do with the kind of technical expertise you'd want working in IT security
Baloney, At least when I did my degree, they were teaching a lot of great knowledge around assembler and C, processor and compiler internals, what the OSI model is all about, ethernet-level comms, TCP/IP, data compression techniques, different CRC algorithms, device drivers, system security models etc, etc.
Knowing the way things go, they're probably only teaching kids how use IDEs to make web pages and phone apps these days, but I can only talk about the degree I did.
Maybe you'd like to get some cheap open heart surgery from a friend of mine who has a social media degree but says they are also interested in biology.
>> the actual subject matter is almost completely irrelevant.
Sorry but thats utter bullshit. I've interviewed and hired enough software developers to know how important a good CS education and background really is.
Apart from the lack of knowledge that an undergrad degree gives you, the best developers etc, are just hardwired that way and wouldn't dream of doing anything else. If you weren't interested enough in CS to do a CS degree when you had the chance, that tells me you're just in it for the money not the subject itself, so are already not what I'm looking for.
They have a completely locked-down environment and they still can't control it? Really?. There are so many obvious solutions to this problem.The fact that this is even an issue can only be either utter incompetence or blatant corruption. Either way someone badly needs to get fired.
>> Just what is a radical leftist? Same as a radical rightist, (other than political agenda). Those that attempt to silence anyone with views that don't exactly mirror their own.
>> what differentiates a radical leftist from a radical (sic) rightest? Political alignment/agenda, that's all.
>> Does the radical mean you act on your beliefs instead of just espousing them? No, because everyone acts on their beliefs at some level.
a) I haven't worn a watch for years.Carrying a phone just makes it totally unnecessary. I'm even afraid that having something on my wrist all day again would just feel wierd now.
b) Watched the video on their website and am not about to buy anything that is advertised by and therefore associated with fashion-victim hipsters with ridiculous-looking man-buns.
The length of time that some system has not been updated does not alone provide a good metric as to how secure it actually is or isn't. Its certainly a mistake to judge the invulnerability of some system just by when it was last updated, which seems to be what the article is doing.
It was Microsoft who managed to brainwash the world into thinking that weekly/monthly updates are just some normal aspect of all computer systems. prior to then, it was not unusual for updates for professional OS's (SunOS, HPUX, Solaris, VMS etc) to be more like years apart. A high frequency of updates is absolutely necessary if you're running a fundamentally crappily-designed OS like Windows, but let's not paint all things with the same brush.
That said, I do agree that Apple should release updates every time a new exploit (EFI or otherwise) is identified, which the article also clearly mentions just isn't happening.
Slashdot Mirror
exactly my thought too.
Is there really not a non-autmotive niche that you can find? I can;t beleive that all internal combustion engines in all fields will disappear at midnight on 1/1/2028.
>> the knowledge from an undergraduate-level CS degree would barely get them past writing the main function.
Maybe your degree was that shitty, but mine wasn't. Actually writing my own web server (admittedly just a small one) was pretty easy actually. Certainly one of the easiest things I've developed. But I got my degree in the UK back when/where they take or at least took a different view about learning than the US.
>>You know there are pills to help you with your manly issues right?
Woo look at the big man who snipes will hiding behind an AC post. Come back when you've got the balls to post as yourself.
>> The rest might be useful as background information
That's ridiculous. You do realise that most exploits are actually discovered and capitalised on by people using exactly the in-depth low level knowledge Im talking about right?
You can convince yourself that not knowing that stuff doesn't matter, but it really does. Your cookie-cutter "rely on conventional security policies and proper configuration of 3rd-party tools" approach is hardly creative thinking so eminently predictable to hackers and exactly what makes multiple companies all thinking/doing/following the same identical security trends all vulnerable to the same individual zero-day or other exploit.
>> The thing is, there's only one piece left missing in the electric car's replacement of gas/diesel: charging infrastructure.
Nope. There's way more missing than that. For example:
I need a 4 wheel drive truck thats capable of going off-road and is as affordable to buy as a used F150 or 4Runner. Where's my EV option?
Also having wait even 30 minutes to fast charge everytime its empty is still not an option. Where's my EV that can be topped up from empty in 5 minutes like my gas car can?
Also I would never buy a car that is connected, spies on me, or phones home. Where's my EV option that doesn't have any of that?
Also I like rugged manly vehicles not an ugly small car that looks like its been styled by and for emasculated metrosexuals. Where's my EV option?
>> CS grads are, on balance, not the best programmers.
I have no idea what planet you're living on, but in the real world, you're full of it.
>> Well, I'm only talking about developers and development related jobs.
So am I.
I work in an exclusively linux environment and have been doing so for maybe 20 years now over 6 different companies. Always PCs, never a mac in sight anywhere, except for one guy at one company who bought his own in.
I enjoy gasoline cars a lot, have a heavy investment in them both financial and emotional, but even I can see the writing is on the wall.
https://hardware.slashdot.org/...
I don;t believe the governments are simply posturing, I beleive they're already getting a giant hard-on over the amount of control over us that obliging us to drive so-called "intelligent" cars. Apart from the fact that the government is already facilitating the deployment obviously immature self-driving software out, their intention is clear that they want to limit and then ultimately totally remove our freedom to drive ourselves. They love that these intelligent cars are always tracking us, always phoning home and the cops/government can remotely take over/disable at a whim. I agree that they could enforce that tech on gasoline cars too, but it seems that the transition to electric facilitates its public acceptance by somehow making people think its just an expected part of the overall package and by making it "cool". Just look at Tesla as an example.
Heck just look at the fact that you already can't buy any car made by any GM brand without Onstar already built-in and turned on (they achieve this by giving you a "free" 6 month trial), and many people have found that if you try and disconnect/remove the onstar module, the rest of the car starts failing in wierd ways. Presumably by design exactly to prevent such tampering with their spying system that you even paid for.
Yeah I agree.
I've a gut feeling that Google's turn to become the nominal Evil Empire of the computer world will actually be quite soon.
I also considered Apple, but they don't have enough market share outside of phones to be taken seriously in the general computer space, besides they're pretty much universally hated already.
until they give buyers the option to not include onstar, or whatever they rename it to.
>> Despite environmentalist daydreams, gas and diesel engines will still be around and still be way most new vehicles are powered.
Yes they will still be around but they will be an increasingly expensive niche market. I'll bet that in 10 years they won't be even close to the majority of new vehicles.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/w...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/b...
Ther will probably still be some business entity around called Microsoft but it will be fully owned by the Chinese and will just be an IP troll.
It will be pretty much irrelevant and insignificant in any real sense, They won't be making or selling any actual products by then.
>> computer science degrees are a fucking terrible predictor of success.
That maybe true, however the lack of one is quite a good predictor of failure for most SW jobs, especially if they chose to do an arts/humanities degree instead.
>> For the record, an undergraduate CS degree has almost nothing to do with the kind of technical expertise you'd want working in IT security
Baloney, At least when I did my degree, they were teaching a lot of great knowledge around assembler and C, processor and compiler internals, what the OSI model is all about, ethernet-level comms, TCP/IP, data compression techniques, different CRC algorithms, device drivers, system security models etc, etc.
Knowing the way things go, they're probably only teaching kids how use IDEs to make web pages and phone apps these days, but I can only talk about the degree I did.
Maybe you'd like to get some cheap open heart surgery from a friend of mine who has a social media degree but says they are also interested in biology.
>> the actual subject matter is almost completely irrelevant.
Sorry but thats utter bullshit. I've interviewed and hired enough software developers to know how important a good CS education and background really is.
Apart from the lack of knowledge that an undergrad degree gives you, the best developers etc, are just hardwired that way and wouldn't dream of doing anything else. If you weren't interested enough in CS to do a CS degree when you had the chance, that tells me you're just in it for the money not the subject itself, so are already not what I'm looking for.
They have a completely locked-down environment and they still can't control it? Really?. There are so many obvious solutions to this problem.The fact that this is even an issue can only be either utter incompetence or blatant corruption. Either way someone badly needs to get fired.
>> All Companies Get Breached
This is not even slightly true. It is just a blatant attempt at blame avoidance through lying and misdirection.
I'm VERY surprised that Google doesn't just stop paying the royalties and calls Microsoft's bluff.
>> 'Robot Car Bill' Threatens Safety
Is this Bill Gates? Who is this Bill person and why hasn't he already been arrested?
>> Just what is a radical leftist?
Same as a radical rightist, (other than political agenda). Those that attempt to silence anyone with views that don't exactly mirror their own.
>> what differentiates a radical leftist from a radical (sic) rightest?
Political alignment/agenda, that's all.
>> Does the radical mean you act on your beliefs instead of just espousing them?
No, because everyone acts on their beliefs at some level.
a) I haven't worn a watch for years.Carrying a phone just makes it totally unnecessary. I'm even afraid that having something on my wrist all day again would just feel wierd now.
b) Watched the video on their website and am not about to buy anything that is advertised by and therefore associated with fashion-victim hipsters with ridiculous-looking man-buns.
The length of time that some system has not been updated does not alone provide a good metric as to how secure it actually is or isn't. Its certainly a mistake to judge the invulnerability of some system just by when it was last updated, which seems to be what the article is doing.
It was Microsoft who managed to brainwash the world into thinking that weekly/monthly updates are just some normal aspect of all computer systems. prior to then, it was not unusual for updates for professional OS's (SunOS, HPUX, Solaris, VMS etc) to be more like years apart.
A high frequency of updates is absolutely necessary if you're running a fundamentally crappily-designed OS like Windows, but let's not paint all things with the same brush.
That said, I do agree that Apple should release updates every time a new exploit (EFI or otherwise) is identified, which the article also clearly mentions just isn't happening.