The idea of the UN is great, an open group of nations deciding on fair and peaceful ways forward for the world. The current implementation of the UN sucks but that is another matter.
The idea of Microsoft is bad, a closed company deciding on unfair and uncompetitive ways forward for the world.
"You may not know this, but some people live in really big countries... snip"
Well damn, you sure told me.
You may not know this, but I was talking about the UK, as all the replies to the parent make abundantly clear. Your comment intimating that I know nothing of big countries is pointless and stupid.
I know that your point is valid but your phrasing is awful.
It's safe to assume that everyone is aware of big countries and the extra problems large distances can make. Start from the assumption that people aren't stupid, and then revise from experience. It's the best way.
As an aside, I'm in the process of moving from the UK to Canada and visit Canada a lot, so I know the situation there from friends.
This varies on where you are in the UK. Cities clearly have the best deal, for example London and Manchester's huge libraries are great.
It tends to get worse the further out from cities you go, I currently live in a village and it doesn't have a library; although I've noticed a mobile library van but never used it.
Reminds me of the Hicks routine "'So, whatcha reading for?' Not what are you reading but what are you reading for. You stumped me."
A drive to the nearest town provides a good library with decent computers. The moral of this story is if your local library is dire visit another one in your county (no sign up required) or one further out (sign up but for free).
There was a piece on the BBC recently about how changing opening hours and focus increased library attendance a lot, but it seems to be the amazing vanishing story as I can't find it right now.
Apache is 'free' with no lock in; how does this compare to Microsoft's competing product IIS?
Bundling is bad when you are doing it to artificially maintain your market share and extort cash from your user base in order to maintain a monopoly cash cow. You see?
Nice flamebait, but please don't try playing again.
The 'bundled' argument may or may not be over used but it doesn't stop it from being true. Microsoft do use their market share to not just bundle apps but attempt to impose a standard. When you have 90% of the market share this is pretty powerful and uncompetitive.
The EU just gave them a financial slapped wrist over this very issue - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=EU+Microsoft+Judg ement
His post is all about getting something working out of the door first. The point is defining what you need to do and how to go about doing it. Someone has to mull all of this over, privately and publicly, and Miguel's one of the ones doing this.
This is novel, and regardless of the dangers of doing this in the west - gimmie that phone now kid - this will catch on.
Anyone want to take a bet that this won't appear in the Pokemon series of games? Nintendo are not adverse to hardware add-ons. Not that they all succeed but that's another topic.
It gets kids out of the house, even interacting like geo-caching; I can see the press being positive over this, given the right spin. You'd have to avoid getting kids going to the park at night though, perhaps have the game force you to enter your birth date at the start.
Easy to get around but gives a legal/press get out clause.
You seriously have your panties in a bunch don't you, lets run through a few things here. I *was* invoking the magic Linux Pixies to fight the demon baddie of all evil that is Microsoft; for karma and profit.
Oh no, wait, I was actually replying to:
"My peeve is against those who use spreadsheets as databases. Repeat after me...Excel is not a database. Excel is not a database"
I said Access is a POS. Well it is IMO.
So then I said people avoid Access but have no alternative DB software on the standard office desktop. IME that is true. With me so far? Cool.
So then comes my example of what is/isn't standard, it would be cool to run whatever in work, but I can't. It's the same for just about all people using corporate desktops. I'd love to run either Linux/OSX in work, but I can't, so I used those as my example.
So my Microsoft pedant troll, untie those panties and relax.
You think my reply was anti MS and zealot linux? You haven't been reading Slashdot much have you, that was tame.
Excel is a basic statistic tool, yes their are a lot better apps out there but they are not installed on corporate networks. So people are stuck using Excel's basic functions and, to adopt your metaphor, forced to hammer in screws.
Oh, your example falls down BTW. Notepad can make wonderful HTML, have you seen what can come out of Frontpage, or even worse Word?! Even Dreamweaver drops the ball a lot.
Ans don't get me started on CSS support in those programs.
People do this, certainly in my experience, because the only database they have for use is MS Access.
So really I don't blame them for avoiding that utter POS software.
You have to remember that people are stuck working within the confines of whatever software the business deems 'acceptable'. Although it would be great if we were all on Linux/OSX at work we're not.
Which part of 'this won't work' don't the republicans get? If the pop up works, it annoys, and they lose. But most of the time wouldn't this be blocked now?
I's bet the majority of us have browsers that block pop-ups, even IE now blocks pop-ups.
So are they aiming at the people to dumb to upgrade browers? Uh, hang on, this is starting to make sense.
"Republicans, appealing to the lowest common denominator since 1978."
Thing is though how many do consider the source. The majority probably don't read the article prior to posting something they hope is +5 funny, let alone question the credentials of who wrote the article.
You made the best damn comment of the day so far sir, may the karma rain upon you.
Oh hell, does this mean I have to tell the elephants to turn back? They are going to be some pissed off pachyderms.
You are of course right, Top-Down is what most people rely on.
The best and most valuable information is that which you have worked for and sought personally. This is the information that will stick with you the longest.
But, and this is a J-Lo sized but, there are not enough hours in the day to do that on every nugget of information or news you receive. Selectively DYOR, after that use others who *seem* more informed than you as a guide, the Top-Down education. If later you get time to see if they were right, all the better.
Parent is correct and should be modded insightful. Damn me for using my mod points earlier today, knew I should have saved 1.
ECHR is imposed, or defined, law. UK law prior to this was Common law, which is law derived from years of experience by the populous and the judiciary. While not defined like the ECHR is, common law existed.
So UK people could say what they wanted in the same manner as the US, way before the codified US constitution/bill of rights.
Slashdot Mirror
Nope.
The idea of the UN is great, an open group of nations deciding on fair and peaceful ways forward for the world. The current implementation of the UN sucks but that is another matter.
The idea of Microsoft is bad, a closed company deciding on unfair and uncompetitive ways forward for the world.
One good, one bad; are you less confused?
Don't point the finger of idiocy so fast.
The plural for computer virus is virus. Not viruses or virii.
So put the finger down and walk away.
You are 100%, even on the killing; but you used the word 'whereas'. *shudder*
For me it's like the Terry Pratchett quote about multiple exclamation marks, you are clearly frightening.
All the Demos seem to be Windows based, using DX9 and so on. (OK so a couple of 'NIX demo links are floating on the thread to, but ...)
Is anyone doing OS X demos of the same kind? Otherwise I'm not going to see any demos but get to read people saying how good they are. You teases.
"You may not know this, but some people live in really big countries ... snip"
Well damn, you sure told me.
You may not know this, but I was talking about the UK, as all the replies to the parent make abundantly clear. Your comment intimating that I know nothing of big countries is pointless and stupid.
I know that your point is valid but your phrasing is awful.
It's safe to assume that everyone is aware of big countries and the extra problems large distances can make. Start from the assumption that people aren't stupid, and then revise from experience. It's the best way.
As an aside, I'm in the process of moving from the UK to Canada and visit Canada a lot, so I know the situation there from friends.
Jackdaw
(Soon to be Canadian, eh)
This varies on where you are in the UK. Cities clearly have the best deal, for example London and Manchester's huge libraries are great.
It tends to get worse the further out from cities you go, I currently live in a village and it doesn't have a library; although I've noticed a mobile library van but never used it.
Reminds me of the Hicks routine "'So, whatcha reading for?' Not what are you reading but what are you reading for. You stumped me."
A drive to the nearest town provides a good library with decent computers. The moral of this story is if your local library is dire visit another one in your county (no sign up required) or one further out (sign up but for free).
There was a piece on the BBC recently about how changing opening hours and focus increased library attendance a lot, but it seems to be the amazing vanishing story as I can't find it right now.
Apache is 'free' with no lock in; how does this compare to Microsoft's competing product IIS?
Bundling is bad when you are doing it to artificially maintain your market share and extort cash from your user base in order to maintain a monopoly cash cow. You see?
Nice flamebait, but please don't try playing again.
"David is currently 25% completed with the Systems Design Phase of development."
... high on hyperbole with little to no substance.
If this works, great. Going through there website doesn't fill me with any confidence.
Very reminiscint of Infinium Labs [www.infiniumlabs.com]
One to watch, yes; but really, don't hold your breath.
The 'bundled' argument may or may not be over used but it doesn't stop it from being true. Microsoft do use their market share to not just bundle apps but attempt to impose a standard. When you have 90% of the market share this is pretty powerful and uncompetitive.
g ement
The EU just gave them a financial slapped wrist over this very issue - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=EU+Microsoft+Jud
What do you mean 'wasting time'?
His post is all about getting something working out of the door first. The point is defining what you need to do and how to go about doing it. Someone has to mull all of this over, privately and publicly, and Miguel's one of the ones doing this.
Good for him.
(Did I troll feed? Sorry)
As defined by Tolkien 'Middle Earth' is based on Lancashire in England. We're getting the first sun of summer here :)
I know this is something of an aside to this thread but this has really interested me.
We have the end of oil - runs out sometime in the next 75 years - and the end of the white/blue collar workforce; as it currently stands.
I think the latter will be a lot longer than the below postings indicate, but again it will happen.
Just where are we going as a society and where do we want to go? Anyone got additional sources for further discussions on this?
This is novel, and regardless of the dangers of doing this in the west - gimmie that phone now kid - this will catch on.
Anyone want to take a bet that this won't appear in the Pokemon series of games? Nintendo are not adverse to hardware add-ons. Not that they all succeed but that's another topic.
It gets kids out of the house, even interacting like geo-caching; I can see the press being positive over this, given the right spin. You'd have to avoid getting kids going to the park at night though, perhaps have the game force you to enter your birth date at the start.
Easy to get around but gives a legal/press get out clause.
Ah of course, and your sig doesn't reveal your intentions or bias in the slightest. Troll away dear boy, troll away.
"I hate Microsoft, Linux, and Apple equally. Wait, no; I hate Linux more."
You seriously have your panties in a bunch don't you, lets run through a few things here. I *was* invoking the magic Linux Pixies to fight the demon baddie of all evil that is Microsoft; for karma and profit.
Oh no, wait, I was actually replying to:
"My peeve is against those who use spreadsheets as databases. Repeat after me...Excel is not a database. Excel is not a database"
I said Access is a POS. Well it is IMO.
So then I said people avoid Access but have no alternative DB software on the standard office desktop. IME that is true. With me so far? Cool.
So then comes my example of what is/isn't standard, it would be cool to run whatever in work, but I can't. It's the same for just about all people using corporate desktops. I'd love to run either Linux/OSX in work, but I can't, so I used those as my example.
So my Microsoft pedant troll, untie those panties and relax.
You think my reply was anti MS and zealot linux? You haven't been reading Slashdot much have you, that was tame.
Excel is a basic statistic tool, yes their are a lot better apps out there but they are not installed on corporate networks. So people are stuck using Excel's basic functions and, to adopt your metaphor, forced to hammer in screws.
Oh, your example falls down BTW. Notepad can make wonderful HTML, have you seen what can come out of Frontpage, or even worse Word?! Even Dreamweaver drops the ball a lot.
Ans don't get me started on CSS support in those programs.
People do this, certainly in my experience, because the only database they have for use is MS Access.
So really I don't blame them for avoiding that utter POS software.
You have to remember that people are stuck working within the confines of whatever software the business deems 'acceptable'. Although it would be great if we were all on Linux/OSX at work we're not.
Which part of 'this won't work' don't the republicans get? If the pop up works, it annoys, and they lose. But most of the time wouldn't this be blocked now?
I's bet the majority of us have browsers that block pop-ups, even IE now blocks pop-ups.
So are they aiming at the people to dumb to upgrade browers? Uh, hang on, this is starting to make sense.
"Republicans, appealing to the lowest common denominator since 1978."
A good point, if oddly made.
Thing is though how many do consider the source. The majority probably don't read the article prior to posting something they hope is +5 funny, let alone question the credentials of who wrote the article.
You made the best damn comment of the day so far sir, may the karma rain upon you.
Why is this Troll? Mods? Anyone? Hello? /me watches tumbleweeds roll past
Well OK sparky, you sure made that sound easy.
Care to place your DVD image online as a bittorrent for the rest of humanity that can't/won't make a bootable DVD?
For free karma and cookies? Hell, I'd throw in a free hamster.
Oh hell, does this mean I have to tell the elephants to turn back? They are going to be some pissed off pachyderms.
You are of course right, Top-Down is what most people rely on.
The best and most valuable information is that which you have worked for and sought personally. This is the information that will stick with you the longest.
But, and this is a J-Lo sized but, there are not enough hours in the day to do that on every nugget of information or news you receive. Selectively DYOR, after that use others who *seem* more informed than you as a guide, the Top-Down education. If later you get time to see if they were right, all the better.
"The whole front of the car is moulded in one piece which can be removed only by a Volvo mechanic."
"... a car designed by women for women."
Fair enough. I know for sure my wife would never open a car bonnet. And anything that prevents me from having to do maintanance on her car is a plus.
No down side here from my point of view:
-Less hassle from Mrs
-Greater MPG due to better airflow
-Cleaner engine, moving parts would last longer
"Volvo will never actually take this car into production, of course."
They will if they get good press, look at the Audi TT.
Parent is correct and should be modded insightful. Damn me for using my mod points earlier today, knew I should have saved 1.
ECHR is imposed, or defined, law. UK law prior to this was Common law, which is law derived from years of experience by the populous and the judiciary. While not defined like the ECHR is, common law existed.
So UK people could say what they wanted in the same manner as the US, way before the codified US constitution/bill of rights.
I know you are modded as Interesting but did he really did use the term 'GPL zealots' or are you paraphrasing?
Anyone either back this or or point at a transcript.
Er, well not point, as that wouldn't really work on this medium would it.