More rich individuals?, being a rich individual is measured in terms of how well you addapt to the social roles that are impossed nowdays?. Slashdot is a social activity. Please think about this: Name 1 comunity of non-geek persons that are more than 10 and that get together every day to discuss their ideas. There are NONE. Now, look at Slashdot, are we unsocial terminal geeks?. I Think the hole think is upside down. We are social people, actually more sociable than other social groups because we still belevie in some things like netiquete, we can maintain social contract. Actual society CAN'T. Slashdot is not a website, it's a social contract. EVERYONE can post here, and he will be listened, we have our methods to protect ourselves from those that don't know how to live in society, but we won't censor them or ask them to go away.
We are unsocial with many people because they comunicate in a different language, which is by definition aggresive and antisocial.
But i am not talking about experts, i am just talking exactly about the opposite!. If someone goes to a doctor and the expert poisson his pacient, the doctor, that is murder. If someone turns on the radio, and listens that someone is saying that it's good to drink gasoline, and he take a litter for breakfast, then it's his own fault. The Same happends here, if symantec is distributing some program saying that it's an antivirus, and it's actually a virus, you can sue symantec, but if some scriptkiddie sends you an email saying "install this", and you do, then you are "Too stupid to own a Computer (TM)"
A Few years ago, here in Argentina, a National radio show (The best *ever*), had this asshole talking about "computing"; he was a 14 year old scriptkiddie, but he was actually over 30:). Anyway, one day he told people he was going to teach them to [whatever], and he actually gived them the steps to open the DOS debug, obviously, the asshole overwrited the first bits of the assholes hdds, no more partition table for you. That "joke" for windoish users has been arround for years, but i think no-one ever has broadcasted it in that way... off course lots of people lost data... they complained... he told them to go fuck themselves, they diserved it. So, If someone takes advantage of people stupidity in such a way, gee, HE IS AN ASSHOLE, and i wouldn't mind if someone shoot him:), but, really, it's people fault's anyway, and he can't be held responsible for that...
Every Government treats people as beasts of burden; The USA government too, they just hide it under labels like those talking about the land of freedom and false patriotism. The first Matrix movie could be understood as a really not so subtle metaphor of our reality, the machines/governments/companys are big monsters that we fed, and they keep us worm and enchanted with virtual crap like tv, confort and hotmail. Then they transformed the movie into a virtual crap that they used to feed what is left of our controlled mind...
But, they can limit Comercial (Don't confuse, i didn't say propietary, i said comercial) software, since it is actually "imported", but can they limit the use of non-comercial Free Software?, I mean, you can put a limit on how much someone can sell or buy, but _not_ in how much he thinks or listens. If this doesn't apply to Free Non-Comercial software, that will be an amazing incentive for people to start using, or at least looking at, GNU.
You can may be fight to make information free?, That will freed you and your mind.
www.gnu.org -> Nice example;-)
About the fish thing, Fishs don't need bikes, but bike sellers need to sell, so they will transtorn fishes so much, as to make them think they actually need them.
We have found that GNUvrolet is illegally using our IP in their products. We can't obviously tell you where or what, but it's there, beleive us, we are SCOFord. But, Since we love you, we won't private you from getting to work. You can go now over our site and buy our license to use SCO-GNUvrolet. The licenses will be distributed in a Per-User basis.
This would be an improvement, but it has 2 bad sides:
1) The implied privacy issues. Is my car going to identifiy itself? 2) The main problem with traffic is not the lack of information or infrastructure, but the lack of education people has.
How Important developers of the GNU and Open Source Movement are living the obscure land of kernel hacking and going to write some userland code. Many times, in Free Software, the underlying system, the lower level development is made by the most competent developers, and so is robust, stable, actually the best out there, but the front ends, well, they just don't have the same quality, so, for the unexperienced user, it looks like crap. I think it's time that we change this, and start showing that GNU can also be reliable on the Desktop, not only showing how fast it is, but also good end-user interfaces. It's not that i don't like KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc,etc, they are ok, but i think that if we put the best people to work on it, they will be even better. Linus has been talking about this recently, are we going to start seeing things like Linusorganizer, Linword??, hehe, that would be nice.
They Just lost the count... Why do you think they wanted to buy google? To provide a good service to people? come on!!! They needed the google db and installations to host they bug-tracking system;-)
They have very good reasons to say such a thing. What they say can be traslated to english as "Since our source code is not available, no one knows of our nasty bugs until we find out and release a patch, so, a) The people has the fault, because they don't apply the patches inmediatly b) Now bugs won't be our fault, they will be bugs because someone has our source code." People _will_ belevie that bullshit, and translate what should be "Windows has lots of ugly bugs, and now that we have *part* of the source we know where they are" Into "Windows is perfect, but foreign terrorists make it insecure because they still the code". This will finally be translated into "Having the source is a bad thing" and finally into "GNU is BAD".
hahaha, think about the kind of public google has!! I Think a masturbation tracker would be a big success.... An even bigger success would be to put one on slashdot, your user page would show your carma and liters/week;), you could also filter comments with this... for example:
Anonymous Coward Bonus: -1 Gets more than 3 a day: -1
"I can't imagine life without Google News. Thousands of sources from around the world ensure anyone with an Internet connection can stay informed. The diversity of viewpoints available is staggering." - Michael Powell, chair, Federal Communications Commission
I Am Against all this "i sue you" thing, sue everyone and eveything you don't like, someone said your name?, HE CAN'T!!, you OWN that word, well, that is just stupid, you can't remove words from a language, and you can't remove ideas, concepts, knowledge from people, it ain't right, and it ain't possible to control. But, i also hate when some asshole with zero experience and zero knowledge have access to some technology he doesn't diserve, because he has to LERN first, to diserve that technology, but now we are in a world in which just for comercial reasons everyone has access to any technology, and that is KILLING it, it's killing our world. Technology is now shit, shit for the masses, no more drugs!, no more hookers, we don't need them anymore, now we have a different brain-killer, TV, Internet, e-whatever. If you think i am an extremist, please look at this guy giving google credit for the creation of usenet.... use what you said?
>>no talking about killing the president??? WTF are you blathering about? The main problem of the USA right now is that you haven't killed this one _yet_ Someone kill Bush!!, or at least, take the whisky away from him:-|
Do you like necrophilia?, i don't But, do you like TV?, i don't Do you like POP Music?, I don't. What is more dangerous?, Necrophilia or POP Music?, i think by far POP is more dangerous. Why?, Because Necrophilia is the way some ammount of people detroys it's own brain, how many?, 2?, 2 thousands?, 2 millions?. POP, is the way some people destroys it's own brain; how many?, i think there are really _lots_ And POP, Porn, Holliwood movies, etc,etc,etc are accepted as good things. So, what is more harmfull for a society?
Yes, i have a few of those (Actually, my cellphone os one of 'em too, a PT500); and i also have a Tango 300 and a Teletac 250 a good Friend gived to me; So, this is what i has been working on: As we _all_ know you can rather easily put one of this phones into programming mode, in emacs-mode (by using a key-short^^^^^longcut) or by wiring an extra ground the battery has. So, in programming mode, beetween other things, you can change the channel it operates on, and unmute the RX and TX. So, i have recently developed a soft for a company that needed to parse some files the telco sents them every day with calls info; this people installs public phones that are actually cellphones, they have a nice contract with movicom so they get better prices than the ones the telco has to offer; so, i found out that they were using different kind of devices, The officil FWT(Fixed Wireless Telephone); and ones someone made for them, that was actually a wrap for this old motorola and other cellphones, so they could attach a normal phone to this cells. Well, i got one of those devices and cloned it (rather simple, less than u$s30 to build it). So, i could get conected to the internet just by attaching a modem to the device and my cell on the other end:). Ok, that is expensive, my actual goal is to put 2 pcs with a modem attached to a cellphone via one of this devices, and put both cellphones on an unused channel, manage so when one of the modems dials the cell ignores it (simple), and then unmute the RX/TX on both sites, and there you are, a wireless network at 33.600!!!:, Ok, the phones has to be on the same cell, but that gives you a nice distance!!. (Still couldn't get it to work, no time, and no luck:), i will write a howto or something if i actually make it)
Slashdot Mirror
I use sphinx, you insensitive clod!.
More rich individuals?, being a rich individual is measured in terms of how well you addapt to the social roles that are impossed nowdays?.
Slashdot is a social activity.
Please think about this: Name 1 comunity of non-geek persons that are more than 10 and that get together every day to discuss their ideas. There are NONE.
Now, look at Slashdot, are we unsocial terminal geeks?.
I Think the hole think is upside down. We are social people, actually more sociable than other social groups because we still belevie in some things like netiquete, we can maintain social contract. Actual society CAN'T. Slashdot is not a website, it's a social contract. EVERYONE can post here, and he will be listened, we have our methods to protect ourselves from those that don't know how to live in society, but we won't censor them or ask them to go away.
We are unsocial with many people because they comunicate in a different language, which is by definition aggresive and antisocial.
In Soviet Russia, you can get an -1 overrated without being rated befor. WOW.
But i am not talking about experts, i am just talking exactly about the opposite!. If someone goes to a doctor and the expert poisson his pacient, the doctor, that is murder. If someone turns on the radio, and listens that someone is saying that it's good to drink gasoline, and he take a litter for breakfast, then it's his own fault.
The Same happends here, if symantec is distributing some program saying that it's an antivirus, and it's actually a virus, you can sue symantec, but if some scriptkiddie sends you an email saying "install this", and you do, then you are "Too stupid to own a Computer (TM)"
A Few years ago, here in Argentina, a National radio show (The best *ever*), had this asshole talking about "computing"; he was a 14 year old scriptkiddie, but he was actually over 30 :). Anyway, one day he told people he was going to teach them to [whatever], and he actually gived them the steps to open the DOS debug, obviously, the asshole overwrited the first bits of the assholes hdds, no more partition table for you. That "joke" for windoish users has been arround for years, but i think no-one ever has broadcasted it in that way ... off course lots of people lost data ... they complained ... he told them to go fuck themselves, they diserved it. :), but, really, it's people fault's anyway, and he can't be held responsible for that ...
So, If someone takes advantage of people stupidity in such a way, gee, HE IS AN ASSHOLE, and i wouldn't mind if someone shoot him
Every Government treats people as beasts of burden; The USA government too, they just hide it under labels like those talking about the land of freedom and false patriotism. The first Matrix movie could be understood as a really not so subtle metaphor of our reality, the machines/governments/companys are big monsters that we fed, and they keep us worm and enchanted with virtual crap like tv, confort and hotmail. Then they transformed the movie into a virtual crap that they used to feed what is left of our controlled mind ...
But, they can limit Comercial (Don't confuse, i didn't say propietary, i said comercial) software, since it is actually "imported", but can they limit the use of non-comercial Free Software?, I mean, you can put a limit on how much someone can sell or buy, but _not_ in how much he thinks or listens.
If this doesn't apply to Free Non-Comercial software, that will be an amazing incentive for people to start using, or at least looking at, GNU.
going to fire they workers when they go bankrupt ... ... vi talk? :)
It's more than closely tied, actually Terra Belongs to Telefonica. Telefonica :)
Telefonica is not as big as AT&T, but they are as evil
You can may be fight to make information free?, That will freed you and your mind.
;-)
www.gnu.org -> Nice example
About the fish thing, Fishs don't need bikes, but bike sellers need to sell, so they will transtorn fishes so much, as to make them think they actually need them.
We have found that GNUvrolet is illegally using our IP in their products. We can't obviously tell you where or what, but it's there, beleive us, we are SCOFord.
:(
But, Since we love you, we won't private you from getting to work. You can go now over our site and buy our license to use SCO-GNUvrolet. The licenses will be distributed in a Per-User basis.
Solution: everyone will end up using bikes
Actually it doesn't work.
Information should make us Free.
Today, Information does exactly the oposite.
This would be an improvement, but it has 2 bad sides:
1) The implied privacy issues. Is my car going to identifiy itself?
2) The main problem with traffic is not the lack of information or infrastructure, but the lack of education people has.
If you are IBM, the Make it Run part is completely optional.
How Important developers of the GNU and Open Source Movement are living the obscure land of kernel hacking and going to write some userland code. Many times, in Free Software, the underlying system, the lower level development is made by the most competent developers, and so is robust, stable, actually the best out there, but the front ends, well, they just don't have the same quality, so, for the unexperienced user, it looks like crap. I think it's time that we change this, and start showing that GNU can also be reliable on the Desktop, not only showing how fast it is, but also good end-user interfaces. It's not that i don't like KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc,etc, they are ok, but i think that if we put the best people to work on it, they will be even better.
Linus has been talking about this recently, are we going to start seeing things like Linusorganizer, Linword??, hehe, that would be nice.
He trys ito do something interesting, but his ipod is now dead, then someone post the story on slashdot, and now his website is dead :)
They Just lost the count ... ;-)
Why do you think they wanted to buy google? To provide a good service to people? come on!!! They needed the google db and installations to host they bug-tracking system
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They have very good reasons to say such a thing. What they say can be traslated to english as "Since our source code is not available, no one knows of our nasty bugs until we find out and release a patch, so, a) The people has the fault, because they don't apply the patches inmediatly b) Now bugs won't be our fault, they will be bugs because someone has our source code."
People _will_ belevie that bullshit, and translate what should be "Windows has lots of ugly bugs, and now that we have *part* of the source we know where they are" Into "Windows is perfect, but foreign terrorists make it insecure because they still the code". This will finally be translated into "Having the source is a bad thing" and finally into "GNU is BAD".
hahaha, think about the kind of public google has!! .... An even bigger success would be to put one on slashdot, your user page would show your carma and liters/week ;), you could also filter comments with this ... for example:
I Think a masturbation tracker would be a big success
Anonymous Coward Bonus: -1
Gets more than 3 a day: -1
"I can't imagine life without Google News. Thousands of sources from around the world ensure anyone with an Internet connection can stay informed. The diversity of viewpoints available is staggering."
.... use what you said?
- Michael Powell, chair, Federal Communications Commission
I Am Against all this "i sue you" thing, sue everyone and eveything you don't like, someone said your name?, HE CAN'T!!, you OWN that word, well, that is just stupid, you can't remove words from a language, and you can't remove ideas, concepts, knowledge from people, it ain't right, and it ain't possible to control. But, i also hate when some asshole with zero experience and zero knowledge have access to some technology he doesn't diserve, because he has to LERN first, to diserve that technology, but now we are in a world in which just for comercial reasons everyone has access to any technology, and that is KILLING it, it's killing our world. Technology is now shit, shit for the masses, no more drugs!, no more hookers, we don't need them anymore, now we have a different brain-killer, TV, Internet, e-whatever.
If you think i am an extremist, please look at this guy giving google credit for the creation of usenet
>>no talking about killing the president??? :-|
WTF are you blathering about?
The main problem of the USA right now is that you haven't killed this one _yet_
Someone kill Bush!!, or at least, take the whisky away from him
Do you like necrophilia?, i don't
But, do you like TV?, i don't
Do you like POP Music?, I don't.
What is more dangerous?, Necrophilia or POP Music?, i think by far POP is more dangerous. Why?, Because Necrophilia is the way some ammount of people detroys it's own brain, how many?, 2?, 2 thousands?, 2 millions?.
POP, is the way some people destroys it's own brain; how many?, i think there are really _lots_
And POP, Porn, Holliwood movies, etc,etc,etc are accepted as good things. So, what is more harmfull for a society?
Nop, i didn't think someone was gonna do _that_ joke on _this_ thread =)
Well, That's very easy Mr. Censor; just post thouse links here, just reply to this message! :)
Your Sites will be Slashdotted!
Yes, i have a few of those (Actually, my cellphone os one of 'em too, a PT500); and i also have a Tango 300 and a Teletac 250 a good Friend gived to me; So, this is what i has been working on: As we _all_ know you can rather easily put one of this phones into programming mode, in emacs-mode (by using a key-short^^^^^longcut) or by wiring an extra ground the battery has. So, in programming mode, beetween other things, you can change the channel it operates on, and unmute the RX and TX. So, i have recently developed a soft for a company that needed to parse some files the telco sents them every day with calls info; this people installs public phones that are actually cellphones, they have a nice contract with movicom so they get better prices than the ones the telco has to offer; so, i found out that they were using different kind of devices, The officil FWT(Fixed Wireless Telephone); and ones someone made for them, that was actually a wrap for this old motorola and other cellphones, so they could attach a normal phone to this cells. Well, i got one of those devices and cloned it (rather simple, less than u$s30 to build it). So, i could get conected to the internet just by attaching a modem to the device and my cell on the other end :). Ok, that is expensive, my actual goal is to put 2 pcs with a modem attached to a cellphone via one of this devices, and put both cellphones on an unused channel, manage so when one of the modems dials the cell ignores it (simple), and then unmute the RX/TX on both sites, and there you are, a wireless network at 33.600!!!:, Ok, the phones has to be on the same cell, but that gives you a nice distance!!. (Still couldn't get it to work, no time, and no luck :), i will write a howto or something if i actually make it)