I Agree with you... We should add that it should be an Iraqui Government, not a USA one...
And, about that "unformatted blank disk" thing, i think that they are not. They have an interesting, very strong culture, and that's why they have had terrible governments like Saddam's one, and that's why the USA has attacked 'em, and that's why the Big North Empire has been arround for years trying to take their richness (oil) away, and used more direct tecnics (like war) instead of mind domination like they do in Latin America. They can't conquer them with TV, Drugs and Fast Food, so they had to do it directly, with war. The Primary reason for which this cultures are the permanent center of conflicts, is that they has a very strong, nationalist, and conservative culture, which is obviously harder to dominate.
When we have mpg312, ogg123 and cdparanoia?. Aren't those guys reinventing the weel?
I Run the mentioned tools even on my _old_ Powerbook 520 C that runs NetBSD. And they fit in a floppy. Why should i need some 30 mb suite that requiers a PIV and 512 mb DDR to run, and provides the same functionality, and just adds a few nice graphics?...
Yep, Bin Laden is another one that has to be arrested, but those guys (saddam, osama) are just little girls, compared to the Big one that has to be arrested yet: Bush.
yep, it's true... and what it's really worse is that they don't even apply patches to their system, someone installed that think a long long time ago, and noone touched it since then...
>>when RedHat (or someone else) gets their act together??????????????????????
Wtf are you talking about?? This is Free Software, that means that you shoudln't rely on some assholes like redhat that makes many out of other people development efforts, then fuck them hard, and start a propietary soft busnisses based on free one. I'ts because of people like you that they are able to do that kind of crap. If you think you diserver Free Software, lern and do it yourself, if you don't keep using your m$ shit, it's the most you diserve.
That's Amazing Man!!!! They are not old! They are Beatifulll old macs!! Just take the devil out of them and install NetBSD.
BTW: If you think that Public Schools inside the USA are 'poor', please came check out what 100 years of USA economical domination through the FMI did to shcools in my country. We are not complaining about old computers, because there are none, and in many places the principal issue is to give the kids something to eat...
>>The overall cost is reduced cause WE are not there Well, that may happend in the USA, but here in [Argentina], work is actually cheaper than Hardware (because of the change, the dollar costs $3 of our units (Pesos)), so many small busnisses chose to hire some student to make a router with a 386.
yep, y have 2 notebooks right now. And yes, there are machines which are a hell, and some that are well designed, but notebooks hardware won't last if it's stressed that way (hard disks and processors specially). In your case it's not a real example, since to do NAT there is no real disk use (only if you have squid or some other proxy w/cache) and the overhead is really low, so the machine may be using some powersaving capabilities, but you obviusly won't buy a machine like the one in the history just for routing (while there are cheap routers for $100 bucks and less), you will use it for something else, and i can tell you: if a notebook is really running on heavy load all the time (and you can't have power saving features enables for a server, imagine a server spinning down their disks) the processor will fry after some time. Just think about the cooling you have in your Desktop, and the limited cooling that you have in a notebook... (You can touch it a little to put a cooler on it, but that won't be of much help if she's going to be in a raq)
Yep, but there is an advantage: Think this is going for a server, the real meaning of server is 24*7; so heat is your enemy here... there is no notebook out there that can manage to have 7 months of uptime with a high cpu usage without burning out or hanging all the time... Crusoe is a beatifull cold processor. But i agree with you... this kind of device is for marketroids that wants some big company behind their hard/soft, because they think that is a kind of warranty of profit (like all those assholes using redhat)... If you have the knowledge *and* the balls to tell the manager that you are going to put home-made hardware in their raqs; it will work as well as any of this closed boxes.
>>Malicious hackers frequently lure victims to >>convincing replicas of e-commerce sites such as >>eBay
O, of course, that's the principal interest of "Malicious Hackers". I know them. They are so bad. They really scare me, with the jaquer things they do : ). Off course, they are all over I.E (they use it to browse their p0rn "hacked" sites.) That's the other thing "jaquers" are good for... hacking pr0n sites.
Do you want hackers?, you won't find them there... You can find them here, for example: http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/hurd/hurd-paper.h tml
Heeeeeyyy... you lied to meee.... those hurd guys are not "real" hackers, their terminals are not green like, they don't know kung-fu!!, wtf is going on???
Well... neo is bussy developing the Matrix-exec-server to run on top of Mach..., so in the meanwhile you can get a dose of reality and stop writing about jaquers that use win3.1
Why?, well, because if you know how to install popfile, or spamassesin, or whatever, spammers are not interested on you. you are not going to buy them anything anyway... so they just don't care. They care about all those windoze people outthere.. the kind of people that has a hotmail account, they are the only ones who can beleive theit shit. So, they are not going to stop SPAM. Even if we find a definitive techical way to block it, they will start to SPAM other systems, like MSN / ICQ, forums, etc,etc,etc. So, i suggest that we stick with spamassesin, and just forget about SPAM. For me, SPAM is just a few gigabites of montlhy transfer. I don't receive it, my custommers does, but who cares?, it's their fault. As i was satying, just transfer, ignore it, they won't stop spamming, it's a too fucking big business for them to just drop it.
Many Times the Free Software movement has been critiziced for doing that, but in that case we had good reasons 1) Ethical 'Improve' 2) Thecnical Improve. But, in this case, m$ is just developing something that allready exist, just for commercial reasons. And, in this case, everyone seems to agree with that, they even can accept the missfeatures of beta realeses that are being sold (while the same people seems to not accept beta releases that are out there to download for free). It seems that if software is propietary, and with a big company behind it, people accepts aggresive changes, backward incompatibility, hardware issues, failing drivers, beta features puted on so called 'realeses' that are actually being sold. But, they can't take that from Free Software, they try to take down HURD because they say there is allready a Free Unix Kernel, they talk against free software by naming those 'unstable, unsupported' beta features. But when beta code is hacked into a propietary products and sold away, they call them 'New Advanced Features'.
(Solo para entendidos) Estos yanquis tienen la cabeza realmente podrida. El principal ejemplo de la destruccion que causa la mierda que exportan, es lo hechcos mierda que estan ellos. (Solo para entendidos)
" Its greater speed, range and flight-mode flexibility will make it suitable for a wider range of missions."
We all know how and why are they spending millions and millions... i just hope that beyond that ugly military objetive that DARPA and other works for, we can do something more interesting with the technology that they create. (Like happend to the Internet). Let 'em create Shit for use in war, and then take it and use it for something more usefull, constructive and ethic.
insmod ron insmod coke Warning: loading coke will taint the kernel: no license. See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules echo "Fucking stupid propietary drink" insmod -f coke Warning: loading coke will taint the kernel: forced load Module coke loaded, with warnings
jajaja, always the same... I use BSD too... in fact, the hosting company that i work had Propietary BSD/OS hosting VPSs until 2000, Now our servers run GNU/Linux but our DNS server is running FreeBSD, at home i have an old mac running NetBSD, what i mean is that i like and i know *BSD; and is because of that, that i consider really stupid this GNU/Linux Vs. *BSD thing. For many tasks, such as desktop use (besides darwin off course), Free/Net/Open BSD are not ready, while GNU/Linux is. For others, like research or hobby programming, i think FreeBSD for example gives you a more interesting, less conservative plataform. And if you talk about Philosofy, i think we are on the same boat (except for some Linux Kernel Hackers that seems to be more money-making maniacs that bill itself.) About Security, you should remember that FreeBSD and GNU/Linux differ on the Kernel, but 90% of BSD software is GNU Software, so, the vulnerabilities are the same in both plataforms, besides kernel ones, and some other that are especific.
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I Agree with you ... ...
We should add that it should be an Iraqui Government, not a USA one
And, about that "unformatted blank disk" thing, i think that they are not. They have an interesting, very strong culture, and that's why they have had terrible governments like Saddam's one, and that's why the USA has attacked 'em, and that's why the Big North Empire has been arround for years trying to take their richness (oil) away, and used more direct tecnics (like war) instead of mind domination like they do in Latin America. They can't conquer them with TV, Drugs and Fast Food, so they had to do it directly, with war.
The Primary reason for which this cultures are the permanent center of conflicts, is that they has a very strong, nationalist, and conservative culture, which is obviously harder to dominate.
When we have mpg312, ogg123 and cdparanoia?.
...
Aren't those guys reinventing the weel?
I Run the mentioned tools even on my _old_ Powerbook 520 C that runs NetBSD. And they fit in a floppy. Why should i need some 30 mb suite that requiers a PIV and 512 mb DDR to run, and provides the same functionality, and just adds a few nice graphics?
Let's put a counter somwhere "How many people has accepted the free PC, installed GNU on it, and installed an emulator running the IBM spyware" ...
... Well obviosly i am .. DOH!
Are you watching?
Yep, Bin Laden is another one that has to be arrested, but those guys (saddam, osama) are just little girls, compared to the Big one that has to be arrested yet: Bush.
yep, it's true ... and what it's really worse is that they don't even apply patches to their system, someone installed that think a long long time ago, and noone touched it since then ...
>>when RedHat (or someone else) gets their act together??????????????????????
Wtf are you talking about??
This is Free Software, that means that you shoudln't rely on some assholes like redhat that makes many out of other people development efforts, then fuck them hard, and start a propietary soft busnisses based on free one. I'ts because of people like you that they are able to do that kind of crap. If you think you diserver Free Software, lern and do it yourself, if you don't keep using your m$ shit, it's the most you diserve.
That's Amazing Man!!!!
...
They are not old! They are Beatifulll old macs!!
Just take the devil out of them and install NetBSD.
BTW: If you think that Public Schools inside the USA are 'poor', please came check out what 100 years of USA economical domination through the FMI did to shcools in my country. We are not complaining about old computers, because there are none, and in many places the principal issue is to give the kids something to eat
Slashdot, as the biggest SCO Flames database ..
The registry of some of my NT5 servers that has become HUGE after 2 years
My pr0n cd's sql database : )
>>The overall cost is reduced cause WE are not there
Well, that may happend in the USA, but here in [Argentina], work is actually cheaper than Hardware (because of the change, the dollar costs $3 of our units (Pesos)), so many small busnisses chose to hire some student to make a router with a 386.
yep, y have 2 notebooks right now. And yes, there are machines which are a hell, and some that are well designed, but notebooks hardware won't last if it's stressed that way (hard disks and processors specially). ... (You can touch it a little to put a cooler on it, but that won't be of much help if she's going to be in a raq)
In your case it's not a real example, since to do NAT there is no real disk use (only if you have squid or some other proxy w/cache) and the overhead is really low, so the machine may be using some powersaving capabilities, but you obviusly won't buy a machine like the one in the history just for routing (while there are cheap routers for $100 bucks and less), you will use it for something else, and i can tell you: if a notebook is really running on heavy load all the time (and you can't have power saving features enables for a server, imagine a server spinning down their disks) the processor will fry after some time. Just think about the cooling you have in your Desktop, and the limited cooling that you have in a notebook
Yep, but there is an advantage: ... there is no notebook out there that can manage to have 7 months of uptime with a high cpu usage without burning out or hanging all the time ... Crusoe is a beatifull cold processor. But i agree with you ... this kind of device is for marketroids that wants some big company behind their hard/soft, because they think that is a kind of warranty of profit (like all those assholes using redhat) ... If you have the knowledge *and* the balls to tell the manager that you are going to put home-made hardware in their raqs; it will work as well as any of this closed boxes.
Think this is going for a server, the real meaning of server is 24*7; so heat is your enemy here
>>It is designed for engines of 150-160 >>horsepower, although engines as small as 125 hp >>and as large as 180 are approved and commonly >>installed.
I spend a lot of time painting it, you insensitive clod!
>>Malicious hackers frequently lure victims to >>convincing replicas of e-commerce sites such as >>eBay
... hacking pr0n sites.
...h tml
... you lied to meee.... those hurd guys are not "real" hackers, their terminals are not green like, they don't know kung-fu!!, wtf is going on???
... neo is bussy developing the Matrix-exec-server to run on top of Mach ..., so in the meanwhile you can get a dose of reality and stop writing about jaquers that use win3.1
O, of course, that's the principal interest of "Malicious Hackers". I know them. They are so bad. They really scare me, with the jaquer things they do : ). Off course, they are all over I.E (they use it to browse their p0rn "hacked" sites.) That's the other thing "jaquers" are good for
Do you want hackers?, you won't find them there
You can find them here, for example: http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/hurd/hurd-paper.
Heeeeeyyy
Well
Why?, well, because if you know how to install popfile, or spamassesin, or whatever, spammers are not interested on you. you are not going to buy them anything anyway ... so they just don't care. They care about all those windoze people outthere.. the kind of people that has a hotmail account, they are the only ones who can beleive theit shit. So, they are not going to stop SPAM. Even if we find a definitive techical way to block it, they will start to SPAM other systems, like MSN / ICQ, forums, etc,etc,etc. So, i suggest that we stick with spamassesin, and just forget about SPAM. For me, SPAM is just a few gigabites of montlhy transfer. I don't receive it, my custommers does, but who cares?, it's their fault. As i was satying, just transfer, ignore it, they won't stop spamming, it's a too fucking big business for them to just drop it.
But it will sigsegv after a few seconds ... i can't imagine a big fork bomb performing on windoze for more than 10 seconds ... = )
and i did, and it's a nice app, but i just can't get ride of mutt and procmail ...
Many Times the Free Software movement has been critiziced for doing that, but in that case we had good reasons 1) Ethical 'Improve' 2) Thecnical Improve. But, in this case, m$ is just developing something that allready exist, just for commercial reasons. And, in this case, everyone seems to agree with that, they even can accept the missfeatures of beta realeses that are being sold (while the same people seems to not accept beta releases that are out there to download for free). It seems that if software is propietary, and with a big company behind it, people accepts aggresive changes, backward incompatibility, hardware issues, failing drivers, beta features puted on so called 'realeses' that are actually being sold. But, they can't take that from Free Software, they try to take down HURD because they say there is allready a Free Unix Kernel, they talk against free software by naming those 'unstable, unsupported' beta features. But when beta code is hacked into a propietary products and sold away, they call them 'New Advanced Features'.
(Solo para entendidos)
Estos yanquis tienen la cabeza realmente podrida.
El principal ejemplo de la destruccion que causa la mierda que exportan, es lo hechcos mierda que estan ellos.
(Solo para entendidos)
" Its greater speed, range and flight-mode flexibility will make it suitable for a wider range of missions."
... i just hope that beyond that ugly military objetive that DARPA and other works for, we can do something more interesting with the technology that they create. (Like happend to the Internet).
We all know how and why are they spending millions and millions
Let 'em create Shit for use in war, and then take it and use it for something more usefull, constructive and ethic.
insmod ron
insmod coke
Warning: loading coke will taint the kernel: no license. See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules
echo "Fucking stupid propietary drink"
insmod -f coke
Warning: loading coke will taint the kernel: forced load
Module coke loaded, with warnings
I will be able to manage to get to work on time ... : - )
Let me correct your sintax:
For any GNU box,it's esencial to install a kernel, it can be HURD, Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc,etc,etc.
But, besides this, i agree with you, but the fact is that without all that extra software just a kernel is useless.
libshit is the code name for kernel32.dll : )
So bad the name doesn't seems to say much about nice colours .... : )
jajaja, always the same ... ... in fact, the hosting company that i work had Propietary BSD/OS hosting VPSs until 2000, Now our servers run GNU/Linux but our DNS server is running FreeBSD, at home i have an old mac running NetBSD, what i mean is that i like and i know *BSD; and is because of that, that i consider really stupid this GNU/Linux Vs. *BSD thing. For many tasks, such as desktop use (besides darwin off course), Free/Net/Open BSD are not ready, while GNU/Linux is. For others, like research or hobby programming, i think FreeBSD for example gives you a more interesting, less conservative plataform. And if you talk about Philosofy, i think we are on the same boat (except for some Linux Kernel Hackers that seems to be more money-making maniacs that bill itself.)
I use BSD too
About Security, you should remember that FreeBSD and GNU/Linux differ on the Kernel, but 90% of BSD software is GNU Software, so, the vulnerabilities are the same in both plataforms, besides kernel ones, and some other that are especific.