Worse than that, the Deepwater Horizon accident happened when they were capping the well AFTER PENETRATING INTO THE RESERVOIR OF OIL, which is UNLIKELY TO BE exactly what MANY, IF ANY of these 33 rigs have to do!
There, fixed that stupidity for you.
The stupid you still have left in your head, that I can do nothing about.
Oh, and why wasn't there a ban on coal mining after the explosions in West Virginia?
Maybe because it hasn't been exploding every day for three months and promising to do so for at least another four, affecting the fishing and tourism industries of four states?
But really, I don't think you want to hitch your rhetorical wagon to Massey Mining. They have more safety violations than BP, and their CEO should be in goddam jail.
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Ming: I like to play with things while... before annihilation.
Ming: Pathetic Earthlings - who can save you now?
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Flash, a-ah, king of the impossible
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I'll never understand arm-chair petroleum engineers. How easy do you think it is to drive a multi-ton robotic submersible a mile underwater using cameras that don't provide good depth perception to plug a hole spewing oil with a pressure exceeding 5,000 PSI? It can take days just to get the necessary materials down to that depth, let alone the many hours it takes to painstakingly navigate the machinery into place, and that's assuming you don't get too close to the ocean floor because the thrusters will stir up the mud and then you'll have to wait for it to settle so that you can see what you're doing...
How about a simple rule then: until you can do it then you don't get to fucking drill offshore?
How were oil companies even given permission to drill before they demonstrated reliable containment and recovery plans with the necessary materials/products already stockpiled?
I'm shocked too — especially considering the last administration was literally packed with members of the oil and gas industry! Hmmm, waitasec...
Simply because scientific -fact- seems to change every few years.
NO. Scientific *facts* (that is to say, data and observations) do not change. What changes is terminology (which is why there are now eight planets when there were nine) or they get more and better data (which is why there is now water on the moon when once there was "none"). With the facts you build hypotheses, which are tested to the point that they become theories, which is the real currency of science. There is always a hedge, because science doesn't deal *in* facts, it deals *with* facts.
But, when asked, a scientist tells you the current understanding in plain language, which to the laymen sounds like, but isn't, a "fact". Because teaching or other interaction with the public shows scientists that most laymen are (at best) ignorant or (at worst) idiots.
This is why scientists drink a lot.
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It is if your company policy is to force drivers to haul 20 hours at a time.
This is not a case of "oopsie" — this is a documented case of repeated shortcuts, some in the face of vocal opposition on the rig itself. The point of holding the CEO responsible for his company's actions is to prevent SIMILAR BULLSHIT FROM HAPPENING. One would think that personal responsibility should be obvious to those who vehemently oppose "onerous" government regulation.
Do you know WHY governmental regulation has been so bad in the last dozen or so years?
I dunno, but if I had to guess, maybe it had something to do with the people at the Mineral and Management Services snorting meth off of a toaster oven and (literally) fucking industry representatives?
I don't think that's really fair -- if we get into a car accident, we're quick to shrug it off as just that: an accident. Nobody's fault. We pick up the pieces and move on.
There's a difference between a simple car accident and drunk driving. Or, perhaps more to the point, texting while driving. You can't mount up a series of half-assed procedures and made-up testing results and then, when the whole thing goes uber-pants, shrug you shoulders like a fucking cartoon bunny and say "Whatcha gonna do? Shit happens."
If you are allowed to drill in a place where, should something occur, it could destroy thousands of jobs and millions of acres of wildlife, you damn sure better be prepared to pay every penny of the damage that you caused. Especially if you got that lease by shoveling the kind of bullshit that BP did about safety and containment.
Or, in the reverse, why the neo-cons screams bloody murder over the prospect of Iran getting a nuclear weapon while we are busy making our 27,349th one.
Fox News will retract this story once they realize that it increases the percentage of the ocean filled with oil. And then denigrate the scientists involved as Marxists.
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There, fixed that stupidity for you.
The stupid you still have left in your head, that I can do nothing about.
Maybe because it hasn't been exploding every day for three months and promising to do so for at least another four, affecting the fishing and tourism industries of four states?
But really, I don't think you want to hitch your rhetorical wagon to Massey Mining. They have more safety violations than BP, and their CEO should be in goddam jail.
Yeah, that might not be an issue this time around.
Ming: Klytus, I'm bored. What play thing can you offer me today?
Klytus: An obscure body in the S-K System, your majesty. The inhabitants refer to it as the planet...Earth.
Ming: I like to play with things while... before annihilation.
Ming: Pathetic Earthlings - who can save you now?
Flash, a-ah, saviour of the universe
Agent: Strange object imaged in the Imperial Vortex.
Flash, a-ah, you saved every one of us
Ming: Remove the Earth woman. Prepare her for our pleasure.
Flash, a-ah
Aura: Don't kill him yet, father. I want him.
He's a miracle
Dale: Go Flash, go
Flash, a-ah
Barin: Flash
Flash, a-ah, king of the impossible
He's for everyone of us Stand for everyone of us He saved with a mighty hand Every man every woman Every child - he's a mighty flash
Flash
Take that, you earworm-planting nerfherder.
And around a 100% reduction in the use of gasoline. You see, that's why it's called a cost-BENEFIT analysis.
How about a simple rule then: until you can do it then you don't get to fucking drill offshore?
I'm shocked too — especially considering the last administration was literally packed with members of the oil and gas industry! Hmmm, waitasec...
"Dinah-Moe Humm" might, in fact, be about Linux. Namely, the lyric "I got a spot that gets me hot, and you ain't been to it."
NO. Scientific *facts* (that is to say, data and observations) do not change. What changes is terminology (which is why there are now eight planets when there were nine) or they get more and better data (which is why there is now water on the moon when once there was "none"). With the facts you build hypotheses, which are tested to the point that they become theories, which is the real currency of science. There is always a hedge, because science doesn't deal *in* facts, it deals *with* facts.
But, when asked, a scientist tells you the current understanding in plain language, which to the laymen sounds like, but isn't, a "fact". Because teaching or other interaction with the public shows scientists that most laymen are (at best) ignorant or (at worst) idiots.
This is why scientists drink a lot.
It is if your company policy is to force drivers to haul 20 hours at a time.
This is not a case of "oopsie" — this is a documented case of repeated shortcuts, some in the face of vocal opposition on the rig itself. The point of holding the CEO responsible for his company's actions is to prevent SIMILAR BULLSHIT FROM HAPPENING. One would think that personal responsibility should be obvious to those who vehemently oppose "onerous" government regulation.
Sure, it turns out that S.P.H.I.N.X. is not quite the threat they once were thought to be, but the Guild of Calamitous Intent still lives!
They're clearly despondent over the lack of Flash on the iPhone.
I dunno, but if I had to guess, maybe it had something to do with the people at the Mineral and Management Services snorting meth off of a toaster oven and (literally) fucking industry representatives?
There's a difference between a simple car accident and drunk driving. Or, perhaps more to the point, texting while driving. You can't mount up a series of half-assed procedures and made-up testing results and then, when the whole thing goes uber-pants, shrug you shoulders like a fucking cartoon bunny and say "Whatcha gonna do? Shit happens."
If you are allowed to drill in a place where, should something occur, it could destroy thousands of jobs and millions of acres of wildlife, you damn sure better be prepared to pay every penny of the damage that you caused. Especially if you got that lease by shoveling the kind of bullshit that BP did about safety and containment.
You're not American, are you. The land where fat asses and small dicks conspired to create the Hummer.
"Drill baby drill"
"Deep-water oil wells -- NOW with guaranteed blow-out preventers"
"Shut up hippies"
"No one could have foreseen this"
One of these things is not like the others...?
Let this be sold through Amazon, so I can read more product reviews like this.
Or, in the reverse, why the neo-cons screams bloody murder over the prospect of Iran getting a nuclear weapon while we are busy making our 27,349th one.
The knife, she cuts both ways.
A Microsoft jetpack. Oh that sounds like a GREAT idea.
"Where do you want to go today?" "Let's cut out the middleman and go straight to the emergency room."
Fox News will retract this story once they realize that it increases the percentage of the ocean filled with oil. And then denigrate the scientists involved as Marxists.
Hey, it doesn't stop all of the software engineers here giving their unqualified opinions on climatology.
Because he's familiar with every other oil spill disaster that have occurred in the United States?
Luckily, the coastal waters of the gulf are largely an oceanic dead zone already, so there's not that much left for the oil to kill. Um, yay?