Where are you from? Pop comes in 12 oz cans, beer comes in 12 oz bottles, milk comes in gallons, cheese comes in ounces, meat comes in pounds, my height is measured in feet and inches, and the speed limit is in mph. Im not sure where you live but it's not the same state as I.
While I'm not an ISP nor work for one, I run or am involved with running several moderately high traffic discussion forums, and host several dozen websites. I've had few complaints on the website hosting side, however I receive a few copyright complaints a week regarding forum posts (typically hotlinked images, occasionally plagiarized or copied text). My course of action is almost always to modify the post in question, because I don't have the time, desire, or resources to investigate.
I imagine this holds true with ISP's also, I would assume larger ISP's get hundreds or thousands of complaints per day, and it's just not worth it to investigate each and every one.
A better approach may be to notify the website owner that the content is in question and will be removed without a timely explanation, however, copyright holders can be pretty impatient.
Does this mean that prime numbers can now be predicted, and all the supercomputers endlessly trying to calculate larger and larger primer numbers can be shut off?
If I want information about public structures I have to prove I'm not a terrorist? They can't just deny the information to everybody but they actually should assume that we are terrorists. Yea freedom.
Where did you hear that freedom includes full un-edited, un-audited, access to any information about public structures? What on earth is your definition of "freedom"? I'm guessing by your definition of freedom it doesn't exist on earth today. Rather than pretending your rights are being trampled maybe you should just try to view it as a privilege rather than a freedom.
Here's a suggestion, if you want to know where the tunnels under your campus go be prepared to answer a few questions by men in black suits. If you want to learn about how to cultivate anthrax then be prepared to answer a few questions by men in black suits. If you want to know about building suitcase nukes then be prepared to answer a few questions by men in black suits. That's the way it should and needs to be.
And you didn't answer the McVeigh question. If your opinion would change in that scenario you really do need to take off the tin foil hat and spend a few days re-evaluating everything, life. For all anyone knows, this kid could've been the next McVeigh, and he still could be. Nobody here knows anything about him, if tomorrow he went to school and killed 10 kids I'd like to see some of the reactions from the tinfoil hat freaks here.
This kid could be planning to poison everyone in every building on the campus, or maybe he's got an interest in architecture, or he could just be curious, or this could be a ploy to whore the media for attention, or.... Without talking to him about it there's no way to know, and that's all that happened here.
Oh come on, I bet in the next breath you shout about how 9/11 could've been prevented. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
There would be no excuse NOT to follow up on request like this, or information regarding the structure of any public buildings, power plants, infrastructure, or nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, biological agents, bombs, etc.
What would you say if McVeigh made a similar request that was ignored by officials prior to blowing up the federal building? Take off the tinfoil hat and step outside your box.
I wish...they put all that effort into hunting criminals that actually hurt people (as opposed to wallets).
Yeah because every law enforcement agent in the world dropped what they were doing to participate in this investigation, right? I can't imagine how many violent crimes went unpunished because of this, it's a real shame.
And to think, there's probably rapists, murderers etc... Who would maybe have been caught had the resources for this been diverted to real crimes instead of pissant cracking groups. So nice to see that the streets are now safe from some software pirates, while shits like Ken Lay and weasels from the likes of Enron and other completely corrupt boards who defraud tens of thousands of people continue to go free. Nice to see the priorities are right here...
So next time you're in a car accident, or your home is burglarized, or someone swipes your wallet, you'd have no problem if the cops didn't show up because they're all trying to solve rapes and murders? Hell, why on earth are we paying cops to enforce speed limits and arrest shoplifters when the manpower could obviously be put to better use catching murderers.
According to your plan, our only rights are the right not to be raped or murdered. Rather than trying to fabricate ill thought out justifications for your blatant criminal activity why don't you just admit to yourself that "yes I steal and I have no remorse". Maybe you'd retain at least a tiny bit of respect for not insulting my, or anyone elses intelligence with your lame excuses.
I think what he was suggesting is that other crims, such as rape, murder, and corporate corruption, should be concentrated on much more than parking violations. Also, illegal parking is different. Murder, most people will agree is bad. However with parking it depends on if you agree with the law or not. I for one park without paying all of the time. Sorry, I do. I park first ALWAYS. If i like the spot I THEN put money in the meter. Same with subway tolls. I have a huge collection of counterfeit tokens. If I actually enjoy the ride, I go back and pay for it. If its crap, I just move on. I see nothing wrong with that. I am not taking money away from creative artist. I am just making sure that those people who provide crap transportation don't get my money and the people who actually make enjoyable rides do.
... that and I have to find SOME justification for my ungodly expensive sports car that I blew like 2 years pay on:)
I imagine any such venture would cost much more than $10 mil, so nobody is going to make money by winning the prize, only cut their losses by that much.
The problem is the few privacy fanatics who are boarded up in cabins with rifles and paperback copies of 1984. Overreaction is an understatement, and this article, while more neutral than most i've read regarding this topic (which was still 99% ass-kissing the name-dropping) was still pretty fanatical.
Really, nearly 100% of those "in the know" don't give a shit, and i'd guess the majority of those "in the know", like me, are sick of all the tinfoil hat fear mongering with no rational point or purpose.
1984 was a book, fiction, purely out of the imagination of a single person, who was not psychic, only creative. There are no facts in the book, there is no warning of the future, it's all fiction you meatheads. Now go lock yourself in the basement and let the people without an anxiety disorder do as they please.
it depends on if you mean "self healing" as in fixing any problem as it occurs or "noticing specific internal problems and checking for likely causes".
The former obviously being much easier than the latter. The latter, in fact, is likely impossible in any sort of reasonable work environment with todays technology because of the infinite number of possible conflicts between existing hardware, software (and even non-existing hardware/software)
Ok I blew all my moderation in this thread just to speak my mind.
Most of the replies to this parent are so retarded I don't know if I should be embarrassed that i'm at the same website as them or pity that theyre such arrogant, elitist, pretentious dorksnobs who somehow think their dorksnobdom puts them on a pedestal so that all of the unknowing can praise them 5 times a day at set intervals.
Just because you don't get it doesn't mean someone else won't. Especially when that someone else is a child.
Ok let's focus on the child thing here, I guess a good thing to know would be do you have a child? And if so does your child know how to run linux? And if so does your child know the intricacies of linux and OSS in general? And if so, in all honesty, how normal is your child? Really?
His comment had nothing to do with elitism. He simply stated that some children don't need hand holding to use their computers. I know this is true - I was writing BASIC programs on my dad's C64 when I was 7 or 8.
Come on now, writing ANY type of program at 7 or 8 is AB-FUCKING-NORMAL, I don't care how smart you are, when you're 7 or 8 you're flying kites and playing little league, so I call bullshit. I call bullshit cause you think the dweebs and nerds here will give you credence and props cause you were one of the maybe 5, 10, 100? kids globally 'programming at 7 or 8'. Sorry Doogie Howser, you were learning to read and write at 7 or 8, and if you weren't, in all honesty, how normal of a child were you? Really?
once you start telling people how to do things, especially if they usually do it differently from you, they start to rely on being told how to do it. the solution? RTFM!
Oh you go girl! RTFM!!!!! Yeah, you told em there!!! But did you happen to notice that the WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THIS ARTICLE/DISCUSSION IS THAT THE MANUAL IS INSUFFICIENT!? Of course not, because you're a moron.
Lots of adults don't either. I know any number of adults who got to grips with DOS commands back in the '80s (whether by choice or because they had to).
So of people YOU knew in the '80s, likely extremely hip people, you knew "any number of them" who got to grips with DOS commands. Who the fuck cares? You could've, and likely knew other nerds, and even if you didn't, it wasn't a random sampling of people because the fact is, as much as you want to deny it, the average person is not a fucking computer geek, they don't "get it", and I don't understand why you don't "get that".
Anyone who can do that has the basic skills to get started with a *nix box of any flavour. Unless, of course, evolution works in reverse, and we're all getting dumber.
No, anyone who can do that has the basic skills to copy and delete files. Come on, are you really trying to say 1980's MSDOS is on par with doing much of anything from a linux command shell today? Knowing ALL of MSDOS TODAY still isn't much on par with doing much of anything from a linux command shell today. It's not even relevant.
As opposed to the "You're stupid enough to use this OS"? Yeah that's an improvement. Quite frankly as an average user, your characterization of average users isn't an improvement. So stop helping us.
Oh god shut up "average user". Are you also offended that your tv remote came with instructions to install the batteries? I mean, an average user who was as above average as you could figure out how to install the batteries, no? What the fuck are you whining about anyway? I really don't know.
I'll sum this up for the egotistically blind, so that they may fail to absorb any of it. If you write computer programs, or if you write about computer programs, or if you document computer programs, err, well i'll just cut this short, if you use, or know how to use, or have heard of anything but Microsoft Windows, then you're NOT a typical user. It's pretty simple, right? Yet so many who are supposedly the "elite" fail to grasp it.
what you could get for a crime isn't what you do get. Don't act like this guy is already serving his year in prison, you *could* get 90 days in jail and a $700 fine for littering too.
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oh comeon, nobody uses leagues.
Where are you from? Pop comes in 12 oz cans, beer comes in 12 oz bottles, milk comes in gallons, cheese comes in ounces, meat comes in pounds, my height is measured in feet and inches, and the speed limit is in mph. Im not sure where you live but it's not the same state as I.
I imagine this holds true with ISP's also, I would assume larger ISP's get hundreds or thousands of complaints per day, and it's just not worth it to investigate each and every one.
A better approach may be to notify the website owner that the content is in question and will be removed without a timely explanation, however, copyright holders can be pretty impatient.
Does this mean that prime numbers can now be predicted, and all the supercomputers endlessly trying to calculate larger and larger primer numbers can be shut off?
I'd imagine some of it is the whole SiteFinder debacle, and the need for a significant legal fund.
Google has stated many times that it will never serve pornographic or tasteless ads, through GMail or Adwords or any other means.
I am 100% with the RIAA on this. Customized ringtones should be illegal period. (although they do help you pick the morons out of a crowd)
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If I want information about public structures I have to prove I'm not a terrorist? They can't just deny the information to everybody but they actually should assume that we are terrorists. Yea freedom.
Where did you hear that freedom includes full un-edited, un-audited, access to any information about public structures? What on earth is your definition of "freedom"? I'm guessing by your definition of freedom it doesn't exist on earth today. Rather than pretending your rights are being trampled maybe you should just try to view it as a privilege rather than a freedom.
Here's a suggestion, if you want to know where the tunnels under your campus go be prepared to answer a few questions by men in black suits. If you want to learn about how to cultivate anthrax then be prepared to answer a few questions by men in black suits. If you want to know about building suitcase nukes then be prepared to answer a few questions by men in black suits. That's the way it should and needs to be.
And you didn't answer the McVeigh question. If your opinion would change in that scenario you really do need to take off the tin foil hat and spend a few days re-evaluating everything, life. For all anyone knows, this kid could've been the next McVeigh, and he still could be. Nobody here knows anything about him, if tomorrow he went to school and killed 10 kids I'd like to see some of the reactions from the tinfoil hat freaks here.
This kid could be planning to poison everyone in every building on the campus, or maybe he's got an interest in architecture, or he could just be curious, or this could be a ploy to whore the media for attention, or .... Without talking to him about it there's no way to know, and that's all that happened here.
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Oh come on, I bet in the next breath you shout about how 9/11 could've been prevented. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
There would be no excuse NOT to follow up on request like this, or information regarding the structure of any public buildings, power plants, infrastructure, or nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, biological agents, bombs, etc.
What would you say if McVeigh made a similar request that was ignored by officials prior to blowing up the federal building? Take off the tinfoil hat and step outside your box.
uh hello, "existance" isn't a word. Go back to second grade, you idiot.
Did i miss the non-RealAudio version? I can't believe I'm the only one on slashdot who won't install Real software ...
Heheh you gotta be kidding me
yeah definately, because we all know how cool it is to get stoned. 420 d00dz!!!!@@
Yeah because every law enforcement agent in the world dropped what they were doing to participate in this investigation, right? I can't imagine how many violent crimes went unpunished because of this, it's a real shame.
So next time you're in a car accident, or your home is burglarized, or someone swipes your wallet, you'd have no problem if the cops didn't show up because they're all trying to solve rapes and murders? Hell, why on earth are we paying cops to enforce speed limits and arrest shoplifters when the manpower could obviously be put to better use catching murderers.
According to your plan, our only rights are the right not to be raped or murdered. Rather than trying to fabricate ill thought out justifications for your blatant criminal activity why don't you just admit to yourself that "yes I steal and I have no remorse". Maybe you'd retain at least a tiny bit of respect for not insulting my, or anyone elses intelligence with your lame excuses.
... that and I have to find SOME justification for my ungodly expensive sports car that I blew like 2 years pay on :)
I imagine any such venture would cost much more than $10 mil, so nobody is going to make money by winning the prize, only cut their losses by that much.
dude you totally mean window$ sux
The problem is the few privacy fanatics who are boarded up in cabins with rifles and paperback copies of 1984. Overreaction is an understatement, and this article, while more neutral than most i've read regarding this topic (which was still 99% ass-kissing the name-dropping) was still pretty fanatical.
Really, nearly 100% of those "in the know" don't give a shit, and i'd guess the majority of those "in the know", like me, are sick of all the tinfoil hat fear mongering with no rational point or purpose.
1984 was a book, fiction, purely out of the imagination of a single person, who was not psychic, only creative. There are no facts in the book, there is no warning of the future, it's all fiction you meatheads. Now go lock yourself in the basement and let the people without an anxiety disorder do as they please.
The former obviously being much easier than the latter. The latter, in fact, is likely impossible in any sort of reasonable work environment with todays technology because of the infinite number of possible conflicts between existing hardware, software (and even non-existing hardware/software)
Ok I blew all my moderation in this thread just to speak my mind. Most of the replies to this parent are so retarded I don't know if I should be embarrassed that i'm at the same website as them or pity that theyre such arrogant, elitist, pretentious dorksnobs who somehow think their dorksnobdom puts them on a pedestal so that all of the unknowing can praise them 5 times a day at set intervals.
Just because you don't get it doesn't mean someone else won't. Especially when that someone else is a child.
Ok let's focus on the child thing here, I guess a good thing to know would be do you have a child? And if so does your child know how to run linux? And if so does your child know the intricacies of linux and OSS in general? And if so, in all honesty, how normal is your child? Really?
His comment had nothing to do with elitism. He simply stated that some children don't need hand holding to use their computers. I know this is true - I was writing BASIC programs on my dad's C64 when I was 7 or 8.
Come on now, writing ANY type of program at 7 or 8 is AB-FUCKING-NORMAL, I don't care how smart you are, when you're 7 or 8 you're flying kites and playing little league, so I call bullshit. I call bullshit cause you think the dweebs and nerds here will give you credence and props cause you were one of the maybe 5, 10, 100? kids globally 'programming at 7 or 8'. Sorry Doogie Howser, you were learning to read and write at 7 or 8, and if you weren't, in all honesty, how normal of a child were you? Really?
once you start telling people how to do things, especially if they usually do it differently from you, they start to rely on being told how to do it. the solution? RTFM!
Oh you go girl! RTFM!!!!! Yeah, you told em there!!! But did you happen to notice that the WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THIS ARTICLE/DISCUSSION IS THAT THE MANUAL IS INSUFFICIENT!? Of course not, because you're a moron.
Lots of adults don't either. I know any number of adults who got to grips with DOS commands back in the '80s (whether by choice or because they had to).
So of people YOU knew in the '80s, likely extremely hip people, you knew "any number of them" who got to grips with DOS commands. Who the fuck cares? You could've, and likely knew other nerds, and even if you didn't, it wasn't a random sampling of people because the fact is, as much as you want to deny it, the average person is not a fucking computer geek, they don't "get it", and I don't understand why you don't "get that".
Anyone who can do that has the basic skills to get started with a *nix box of any flavour. Unless, of course, evolution works in reverse, and we're all getting dumber.
No, anyone who can do that has the basic skills to copy and delete files. Come on, are you really trying to say 1980's MSDOS is on par with doing much of anything from a linux command shell today? Knowing ALL of MSDOS TODAY still isn't much on par with doing much of anything from a linux command shell today. It's not even relevant.
As opposed to the "You're stupid enough to use this OS"? Yeah that's an improvement. Quite frankly as an average user, your characterization of average users isn't an improvement. So stop helping us.
Oh god shut up "average user". Are you also offended that your tv remote came with instructions to install the batteries? I mean, an average user who was as above average as you could figure out how to install the batteries, no? What the fuck are you whining about anyway? I really don't know.
I'll sum this up for the egotistically blind, so that they may fail to absorb any of it. If you write computer programs, or if you write about computer programs, or if you document computer programs, err, well i'll just cut this short, if you use, or know how to use, or have heard of anything but Microsoft Windows, then you're NOT a typical user. It's pretty simple, right? Yet so many who are supposedly the "elite" fail to grasp it.
what you could get for a crime isn't what you do get. Don't act like this guy is already serving his year in prison, you *could* get 90 days in jail and a $700 fine for littering too.