It isn't as legal as an NDA but it is more social and requires a hell of a lot less legal paper. You also have the advantage of breeding trust intead of distrust.
Just make this clear... if you break the FrenDA you will always point out how you got screwed everytime that person's name is brought up in public.
This is pretty much how everyone in our startup works right now. Our CEO even believes in it.
Honestly... how often are NDAs even enforced? They're not. They're crap.
Startups have to focus on shipping code not on suing people.
I had this problem a while back with java.sun.com.
They were running a comment system that did server side includes. The URL pattern was
http://java.sun.com/foo.jsp?url=relative/path.in c
The obvious hack would be to enter a file: URL and see if it worked and sure enough I could browse through the whole file system as long as I knew the path.
Stupid Java engineers.
Anyway... I contacted a few VPs at SUN and just told them that I had discovered a severe security hole in their webserver and that because of the DMCA I couldn't report it.
They were quick to respond telling me that they WOULDN'T prosecute if i were to give them the security disclosure so they could fix the issue.
Most people won't care as long as you are white hat. If they freak out then don't reveal the information
The only difference is time. We don't become Open Source based on $$$ we go OSS based on time. I believe this yields less animosity within the community.
Right now it is three years. I am going to send Tony an email now telling him that NewsMonster will be under an O-STEP license.
romulan interegator?! What kind of hacker are you?!
You do realize that this was created by George Orwell in 1984.
You have read 1984, haven't you?
We are on the brink of nuclear war between Pakistan and India, the govt is using every excuse in the book to spy on its citizens, big companies are destroying our democtracy and YOU are quoting Star Trek.
By now I am sure most people have seen that Mozilla RC1 has been released. The press has picked this up and now there are a number of reviews.
They all fail to compare RC1 to the last release (0.99) which leads to almost all positive feedback.
The truth is that Mozilla really screwed up their release process. This is the worst stable Mozilla build I have tested in the last year. They litterally broke every rule in the book:
- They introduced major UI changes which are incompatible with all of the builds
since 0.80 or so.
- Saving files locally (at least on my system) is totally broken. Want to save
a PDF file locally?... Too bad!
- They have completely changed around a lot of the preferences. Where did
these come from?
There are also numerous other small bugs.
RC1 should have been 0.99 with *only* patches to fix critical bugs. How many release candidates do they expect to have?
Will there every be a Mozilla 1.0 or is it just going to be asymptotic to 1.0?
The real thing that bothers me here is how easy it is for the FBI and CIA to just cry wolf.
I can think of at least 20-30 instances of them claiming some terrible tragedy was going to happen and then.... nothing.
Right now we are currently on "yellow alert" for "unsubstantiated" claims that there will be terrorist attacks against banks.
... unsubstantiated huh. If you want any other unsubstantiated claims, just give me a call!
In San Francisco, we still have national gaurd around the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges because of similar claims made *months* ago!
The thing I am really worried about is that a real 911 threat comes again and we do NOTHING about it because the CIA/FBI have made 1000 of these claims that ended in nothing.
Any objective person will see that IE was the better browser then "Netscape Communicator" and it was gaining incredible popularity well before IE was "integrated" into the OS.
You are both wrong... There are a number of issues here.
First off... there is no single reason why IE won the browser wars. It was a combination of numerous issues.
1. Netscape was having Engineering problems by the time IE was released. Microsoft had an advantage because they started with a fresh code base right when everyone was learning from Netscape's mistakes.
Netscape had plans for Netscape 5.0 but obviously this didn't happen (hint: keep reading)
2. Netscape had near 100% market share of the browser space when IE 3.0 came on the scene (IE 2.0 sucked). Obviously the choice of an alternative made some people switch.
3. Microsoft shipped IE 3.0 with Windows 95b (OSR2). This was making it into the OS on OEM machines VERY early on. At this point MS was gaining a lot of market share.
4. Netscape 4.x sucked... face it. It did...
5. Because MS was giving IE away for free (which has now been ruled illegal) this destroyed Netscape's revenue stream which essentially prohibited their future development.
6. Microsoft started basing all their products on libraries provided by IE. For example IIS, Office, etc, all required IE 3.0, 4.0, etc. Even though they might not have had modern IE versions on base 95a and NT machines; this situation quickly changed.
So anyway... yes... Netscape screwed up. They aren't perfect.
The important thing here is that Microsoft really played hardball!... the bastards broke the law and now are making a mockery of our justice system!
Yes... Netscape sucked... but this was only a small part of the reason they lost!
It's amazing how religious "computer scientists" can be about technology.
It's not religion, it's politics! Quite frankly we need more people paying attention to this stuff!
Watermarking is not a Bad Thing. A lot of people have talked about hacking this or that it is DRM.
You are missing the point.
Even if you could remove the watermark... why would you do this? It doesn't make any sense.
The point of the watermark is to encourage a micropayment industry to pop up.
For example... Alice downloads Bob's MP3. Alice's MP3 player is smart enough to pick up the watermark.
Alice's MP3 player is smart enough to mention that she has not paid Bob for this song. Since Bob is a poor starving artist, we want him to get paid.
Alice them pays Bob and everyone is happy. If Alice doesn't want to pay then she doesn't have to. A lot of people are talking about similar systems. For example you could do this based on a Hash of the content but this has a number of problems (different bitrate encoding would change the hash).
A watermark would be portable from CD, MP3, OGG and back to CD...
This is a Good Thing and has a lot of potential for us to proove that a digital and robust economy is possible.
Now all this is changes if the RIAA tries to force this on people...
This is really nice. I have actually been thinking a LOT about this recently.
In the past my 'server' has just been a Micron PC with SCSI and 512M... The nice thing about this has been that it is cheap and quiet.
I can always hear it in the background but it does put me to sleep and the white noise keeps the sound of the busy SF streets from waking me up.
The problem is that chicks don't dig it. When I have a girl spend the night they always complain that they can't sleep. If they are REALLY hot sometimes I will just shutoff the machine:)
Then I got a *really* good deal on a 5U server. The only problem is that it is LOUD AS HELL! Then I had to swap my room/office situation around.
This made me think... I think the white noise is TOTALLY not worth it. I have started to notice s slight ringing in my ears when I am in total silence. I am just concerned that it might be this constant white noise causing the problem.
So I might buy this thing... see if it improves the situation..
Someone set up a non profit of some sort, allow us to donate money, I'll donate $5, everyone here donate $5, then when morpues and others go down we link to that site, millions donate $5, next thing you know we will have millions of dollars.
The music and entertainment industry can clearly outspend us on this issue.
If we are going to collect millions of dollars, I would rather see this money go to the Electronic Freedom Foundation
You can download it from Kazaa, Morpheus or GNUTella.
It is all about piracy or something...
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Funny... at one point I would have agreed.
I think it is different with regards to love. Things become complicated.
Case in point. I was dating this girl, we were both in love (or so I thought). We talked a lot about getting married.
I come home from they gym one day. She had been using my computer to check her mail on yahoo.
No problem - "Hey babe! You done with my computer?!"
She responds "Yes, honey"
I sit down on the couch (laptop), and she left her mail open.
Right there in front of me are about 20 emails from her ex-boyfriend. One of which had pictures from the last weekend.
Evidentally she REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, had to get married and was doing everything in her power to make it happen.
Lie, cheat, whatever.
I totally trusted this person.
Now would I use WinWhatWhere? Probably not... but I guess that situation taught me something. I guess I would be more open to the situation this time around.
BTW... she is now married to a founder of a big tech company we all know and level. (sucker!)
Knuth: There's one man who lives near Frank- furt who would probably have more than $1,000 if he cashed all the checks I've sent him. There's a man in Los Gatos, California, whom I've never met, who cashes a check for $2.56 about once a month,
Seems to me Microsoft has been pulling a reverse knuth. They have $2.56 from you for every bug they create!
$15 billion is about 5,859,375,000 bugs..
Taking into account MS has been around for 20-25 years... that figure sounds about right!
OK... this is not a troll... I am being serious here.
If you can't release your source code, don't use the GPL.
Why? Because a lot of us GPL fans are Buddhist, Pacifist, Hippie types!:)
Seriously... I don't want you using my software to help kill people.
I spend my free time writing software to help people. Right now I can barely afford to eat but I am happy because I feel that the software I write is going to do some good in the world.
Killing people and creating even more bad karma doesn't fit in with my world view:)
I have also talked to Stallman about putting a clause in the GPL about not using the GPL in military systems because of these concerns. I don't know if it is possible. What about the Coast Guard? What UN peace keeping troops?
I think this is terrible... and I certainly do NOT know my rights here.
But couldn't Mr Mann just turn around and leave the airport? I would think this would be MUCH better than being dismantled. The only reason I could think of is that maybe he had to leave on an emergency.
If they DID force him to take his implants out, wouldn't this also quality as a kind of kidnapping? I mean they take you into a room against your will.
When this happens can a person just say "no thanks... I will just pass on taking this flight and contact my lawyer."
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Use a frienda... pronounced Fren D A
It isn't as legal as an NDA but it is more social and requires a hell of a lot less legal paper. You also have the advantage of breeding trust intead of distrust.
Just make this clear... if you break the FrenDA you will always point out how you got screwed everytime that person's name is brought up in public.
This is pretty much how everyone in our startup works right now. Our CEO even believes in it.
Honestly... how often are NDAs even enforced? They're not. They're crap.
Startups have to focus on shipping code not on suing people.
Kevin
I had this problem a while back with java.sun.com.
n c
They were running a comment system that did server side includes. The URL pattern was
http://java.sun.com/foo.jsp?url=relative/path.i
The obvious hack would be to enter a file: URL and see if it worked and sure enough I could browse through the whole file system as long as I knew the path.
Stupid Java engineers.
Anyway... I contacted a few VPs at SUN and just told them that I had discovered a severe security hole in their webserver and that because of the DMCA I couldn't report it.
They were quick to respond telling me that they WOULDN'T prosecute if i were to give them the security disclosure so they could fix the issue.
Most people won't care as long as you are white hat. If they freak out then don't reveal the information
Kevin
Maybe we should just claim that the Internet is hiding Weapons of Mass Destruction, invade, then hire Halliburton to do the rebuild!
I have NewsMonster under a similar license.
The only difference is time. We don't become Open Source based on $$$ we go
OSS based on time. I believe this yields less animosity within the community.
Right now it is three years. I am going to send Tony an email now telling him
that NewsMonster will be under an O-STEP license.
Kevin
romulan interegator?! What kind of hacker are you?!
.
You do realize that this was created by George Orwell in 1984.
You have read 1984, haven't you?
We are on the brink of nuclear war between Pakistan and India, the govt is using every excuse in the book to spy on its citizens, big companies are destroying our democtracy and YOU are quoting Star Trek
I give up! We are all doomed!
This is a cool hack: some guy is building a 747 simulator in his backyard.
Is he a terrorist?
Here are my thoughts:
. .
... Too bad!
By now I am sure most people have seen that Mozilla RC1 has been released
The press has picked this up and now there are a number of reviews
They all fail to compare RC1 to the last release (0.99) which leads to almost
all positive feedback.
The truth is that Mozilla really screwed up their release process. This is the
worst stable Mozilla build I have tested in the last year. They litterally
broke every rule in the book:
- They introduced major UI changes which are incompatible with all of the builds
since 0.80 or so.
- Saving files locally (at least on my system) is totally broken. Want to save
a PDF file locally?
- They have completely changed around a lot of the preferences. Where did
these come from?
There are also numerous other small bugs.
RC1 should have been 0.99 with *only* patches to fix critical bugs. How many
release candidates do they expect to have?
Will there every be a Mozilla 1.0 or is it just going to be asymptotic to 1.0?
OK... So I go to read the article and I got this advertisement
:)
It isn't the text... it is the image right next to the article!
Mod this up as funny!
in the past SCSI beat IDE hands-down but now according to Simson Garfinkel...
OK! What do Simon and Garfunkel know about SCSI!
Maybe they should testify for Microsoft in the anti-trust case...
:)
The real thing that bothers me here is how easy it is for the FBI and CIA to just cry wolf.
I can think of at least 20-30 instances of them claiming some terrible tragedy was going to happen and then.... nothing.
Right now we are currently on "yellow alert" for "unsubstantiated" claims that there will be terrorist attacks against banks.
... unsubstantiated huh. If you want any other unsubstantiated claims, just give me a call!
In San Francisco, we still have national gaurd around the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges because of similar claims made *months* ago!
The thing I am really worried about is that a real 911 threat comes again and we do NOTHING about it because the CIA/FBI have made 1000 of these claims that ended in nothing.
Get your act together guys!
Any objective person will see that IE was the better browser then "Netscape Communicator" and it was gaining incredible popularity well before IE was "integrated" into the OS.
You are both wrong... There are a number of issues here.
First off... there is no single reason why IE won the browser wars. It was a combination of numerous issues.
1. Netscape was having Engineering problems by the time IE was released. Microsoft had an advantage because they started with a fresh code base right when everyone was learning from Netscape's mistakes.
Netscape had plans for Netscape 5.0 but obviously this didn't happen (hint: keep reading)
2. Netscape had near 100% market share of the browser space when IE 3.0 came on the scene (IE 2.0 sucked). Obviously the choice of an alternative made some people switch.
3. Microsoft shipped IE 3.0 with Windows 95b (OSR2). This was making it into the OS on OEM machines VERY early on. At this point MS was gaining a lot of market share.
4. Netscape 4.x sucked... face it. It did...
5. Because MS was giving IE away for free (which has now been ruled illegal) this destroyed Netscape's revenue stream which essentially prohibited their future development.
6. Microsoft started basing all their products on libraries provided by IE. For example IIS, Office, etc, all required IE 3.0, 4.0, etc. Even though they might not have had modern IE versions on base 95a and NT machines; this situation quickly changed.
So anyway... yes... Netscape screwed up. They aren't perfect.
The important thing here is that Microsoft really played hardball!
Yes... Netscape sucked... but this was only a small part of the reason they lost!
It's amazing how religious "computer scientists" can be about technology.
It's not religion, it's politics! Quite frankly we need more people paying attention to this stuff!
Peace!
Kevin
Yes... this is a troll! Mod this down!
OK...
.
Watermarking is not a Bad Thing. A lot of people have talked about hacking this or that it is DRM.
You are missing the point.
Even if you could remove the watermark... why would you do this? It doesn't make any sense.
The point of the watermark is to encourage a micropayment industry to pop up.
For example... Alice downloads Bob's MP3. Alice's MP3 player is smart enough to pick up the watermark.
Alice's MP3 player is smart enough to mention that she has not paid Bob for this song. Since Bob is a poor starving artist, we want him to get paid.
Alice them pays Bob and everyone is happy. If Alice doesn't want to pay then she doesn't have to
A lot of people are talking about similar systems. For example you could do this based on a Hash of the content but this has a number of problems (different bitrate encoding would change the hash).
A watermark would be portable from CD, MP3, OGG and back to CD...
This is a Good Thing and has a lot of potential for us to proove that a digital and robust economy is possible.
Now all this is changes if the RIAA tries to force this on people...
This is really nice. I have actually been thinking a LOT about this recently.
:)
In the past my 'server' has just been a Micron PC with SCSI and 512M... The nice thing about this has been that it is cheap and quiet.
I can always hear it in the background but it does put me to sleep and the white noise keeps the sound of the busy SF streets from waking me up.
The problem is that chicks don't dig it. When I have a girl spend the night they always complain that they can't sleep. If they are REALLY hot sometimes I will just shutoff the machine
Then I got a *really* good deal on a 5U server. The only problem is that it is LOUD AS HELL! Then I had to swap my room/office situation around.
This made me think... I think the white noise is TOTALLY not worth it. I have started to notice s slight ringing in my ears when I am in total silence. I am just concerned that it might be this constant white noise causing the problem.
So I might buy this thing... see if it improves the situation..
knock on wood
California Public Utilities Commission has ruled that it has the authority to regulate DSL-based Internet services
OK... based on that logic.
I hereby rule that I have authority to regulate Microsoft's monopolistic behavior..
Prepare to bend over BillG!
you joke...
but there already is a JSAPI
Gentoo also has a picture of the new iMac
:)
What the hell is that thing anyway?!
Someone set up a non profit of some sort, allow us to donate money, I'll donate $5, everyone here donate $5, then when morpues and others go down we link to that site, millions donate $5, next thing you know we will have millions of dollars.
The music and entertainment industry can clearly outspend us on this issue.
If we are going to collect millions of dollars, I would rather see this money go to the Electronic Freedom Foundation
We don't have to wait for anyone to setup donations. You can donate/join the EFF right now.
The RIAA has a really good corporate anthem!
You can download it from Kazaa, Morpheus or GNUTella.
It is all about piracy or something...
Funny... at one point I would have agreed.
I think it is different with regards to love. Things become complicated.
Case in point. I was dating this girl, we were both in love (or so I thought). We talked a lot about getting married.
I come home from they gym one day. She had been using my computer to check her mail on yahoo.
No problem - "Hey babe! You done with my computer?!"
She responds "Yes, honey"
I sit down on the couch (laptop), and she left her mail open.
Right there in front of me are about 20 emails from her ex-boyfriend. One of which had pictures from the last weekend.
Evidentally she REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, had to get married and was doing everything in her power to make it happen.
Lie, cheat, whatever.
I totally trusted this person.
Now would I use WinWhatWhere? Probably not... but I guess that situation taught me something. I guess I would be more open to the situation this time around.
BTW... she is now married to a founder of a big tech company we all know and level. (sucker!)
OK... I don't know why anyone didn't point this out.
... god... how do you pronounce that?
Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act
CBDTPA
see bee dee tee pee ah?
You can't protest against that! I mean what are you going say:?
"hay ho. hay hay..
we don't want no see bee dee tee pee ah"
!
They did this on purpose!
Kevin
Unfortunately... I think the fate of OS/2 might just befall Java.
Knuth: There's one man who lives near Frank-
furt who would probably have more than $1,000
if he cashed all the checks I've sent him. There's a
man in Los Gatos, California, whom I've never met,
who cashes a check for $2.56 about once a month,
Seems to me Microsoft has been pulling a reverse knuth. They have $2.56 from you for every bug they create!
$15 billion is about 5,859,375,000 bugs..
Taking into account MS has been around for 20-25 years... that figure sounds about right!
OK... this is not a troll... I am being serious here.
:)
:)
:)
If you can't release your source code, don't use the GPL.
Why? Because a lot of us GPL fans are Buddhist, Pacifist, Hippie types!
Seriously... I don't want you using my software to help kill people.
I spend my free time writing software to help people. Right now I can barely afford to eat but I am happy because I feel that the software I write is going to do some good in the world.
Killing people and creating even more bad karma doesn't fit in with my world view
I have also talked to Stallman about putting a clause in the GPL about not using the GPL in military systems because of these concerns. I don't know if it is possible. What about the Coast Guard? What UN peace keeping troops?
So yes... you can't use GPL code.
... and stop killing people!
Peace!
Kevin
OK...
I think this is terrible... and I certainly do NOT know my rights here.
But couldn't Mr Mann just turn around and leave the airport? I would think this would be MUCH better than being dismantled. The only reason I could think of is that maybe he had to leave on an emergency.
If they DID force him to take his implants out, wouldn't this also quality as a kind of kidnapping? I mean they take you into a room against your will.
When this happens can a person just say "no thanks... I will just pass on taking this flight and contact my lawyer."
Kevin