I was trying to, how you say, "provoke discussion".:)
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.
I wondered if anyone here had had direct dealings with them and could give some sort of anecdotal demonstration of their actual importance.
Well, actually... You have, sort of. Anytime you purchase an item that has a size or a color, the UPC symbol on the item contains the size and color information. All of this information in the UPC is standardized by the NRF and thousands of retailers use it. Thus, the NRF is pretty influential, and that's just one example.
RTFA: "The National Retail Federation is the world's largest retail trade association, with membership that comprises all retail formats and channels of distribution including department, specialty, discount, catalog, Internet and independent stores as well as the industry's key trading partners of retail goods and services. NRF represents an industry with more than 1.4 million U.S. retail establishments, more than 23 million employees - about one in five American workers - and 2003 sales of $3.8 trillion. As the industry umbrella group, NRF also represents more than 100 state, national and international retail associations."
Microsoft is leaving MacDonald's users out in the cold by only supporting Burger King's architecture. I'd like to see Longhorn on Big Mac as well as Whopper.
This seems to be a round-about and innefficient way to do a DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack. They should just automate the thing as opposed to having people sitting and clicking as they seem to plan on doing.
It is automated. RTFA. The pages automatically reload, or you can download scripts.
Their site features just about every grammatical mistake one can make.
English is not every person's first language.
They also accused me of stealing their bandwidth by going to their page. That seems to be a strange accusation coming from a group that is going out to crash other people's sites.
No they didn't. In fact they encourage people to, "...bookmark this site and revist us as often as possible", and, "link to us from your web site!".
Why is this guy's post modded "Informative"? I suppose wrong information is still informative, but jeez, people!
I just did a clean install over RH9 with Fedora last night.
I was not amused to find that the graphical install does not work on my less than cutting edge system.
I was not amused further when I found out during the text install that selecting the option in Disk Druid to extend a partition to fill up the rest of the available space causes the install to crash.
After rebooting and entering in all the options again, I was able to install Fedora with no further issues.
After installation, I ran up2date which downloaded and installed the 120 some odd patches seemingly without a hitch, and was only somewhat hindered by the fact that the cron.daily and cron.weekly scripts decided near the end of the upgrade that it was suddenly time to execute, thus bringing the system to a screaching halt.
Finally, after the crons finished and up2date finally allowed me to click on the "Forward" button, I was able to log out and click "shutdown". It was at this point that the shutdown sequence promptly failed, and I was left staring at the blue Fedora background unable to log in and unable to switch to a virtual console. The three finger salute also failed to do anything productive, and I was forced to use the power button to make guacamole out of my filesystems.
All in all, I am quite a bit less than entirely thrilled with Fedora. YMMV.
Only if you make it that way. I typically make a partition for it on development machines, because compiles of ACE/TAO typically use up massive amounts of swap space. Just beware that if/tmp is on its own partition, it won't get cleaned up on reboot, so you might want to make a script for this. Likewise, for long running systems, you may want to create a cron job to clean up old files in/tmp once in a while - regardless of where/tmp is.
Scientists claim to have found the lost city of Atlantis, off the coast of Cyprus.
This has been speculated about for quite some time, as there are some ruins on Cyprus that "lead" into the ocean - pointing the way, if you will. However, I find it very hard to believe that Sarmast has located 48 of the 50 geographical features described by Plato. It would seem to me that the kind of upheaval described by Plato and other local legend would destroy quite a few more than 2 of those features.
I think the fact that my TV gets about six different Discovery channels, two History channels and a Biography channel proves that there is a large portion of the population that is, in fact, interested in science.
You mean the Motorcycle Channel and the War Channel?
Don't forget the Redocorate Someone Else's Home Channel (i.e. TLC).
I'll never have to see one of your inane posts again.
If I can just jump in here for a moment... He wasn't being inane. This is a fundamental concept in software engineering.
Let me ask you a quick question. This has to go off on a tangent for a bit, but bear with me, and then I'll get around to the PHP part...
Suppose you want to deallocate a socket connection when you are finished using it.
In Java you usually do this by using a finalize block to close the socket.
In C++ you close the socket in your destructor.
Q: Which method results in less leakage of resources?
A: #2.
Why? Because the deallocation of the socket is implicit instead of explicit. In this case, the socket gets closed when your object goes out of scope. In #1 you need to remember to explicitly code a finally block, which places the burden of resource tracking on the programmer. With RAII, the burden is on the language.
Now what does this have to do with PHP? Well...
Q: Which results in no security issues?
Initializing a variable.
Turning register_globals OFF.
A: #2.
Why? Because you don't have to explicitly remember to set a variable, all you need to do is turn register_globals off. In other words, the burden is no longer on the programmer.
Explicitly having to check sanity is bad programming practice when the language has means to implicitly do it for you. This is why most modern languages implement some sort of garbage collection and bounds checking.
In other words, do not create more work for yourself when security and stability are involved.
That wasn't a "language card", although it was installed in the "language card" slot. The Apple Language Card had a ROM chip on it that contained the version of BASIC that wasn't installed in your machine by default. This was so that you could run Applesoft BASIC programs on an Apple II or Integer BASIC programs on an Apple II+ at the flip of a switch. What you got was a RAM expansion card.
Interestingly enough, Einstein's brain is really in a jar at Princeton. The professor who looks after it used to live across the street from my parents. He's a very interesting man.
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.
I wondered if anyone here had had direct dealings with them and could give some sort of anecdotal demonstration of their actual importance.
Well, actually... You have, sort of. Anytime you purchase an item that has a size or a color, the UPC symbol on the item contains the size and color information. All of this information in the UPC is standardized by the NRF and thousands of retailers use it. Thus, the NRF is pretty influential, and that's just one example.
I'm sure that a person with an ID as low as yours is aware of the following options:
- The link in the article: "The National Retail Federation has just put out..."
- RTFA: "The National Retail Federation is the world's largest retail trade association, with membership that comprises all retail formats and channels of distribution including department, specialty, discount, catalog, Internet and independent stores as well as the industry's key trading partners of retail goods and services. NRF represents an industry with more than 1.4 million U.S. retail establishments, more than 23 million employees - about one in five American workers - and 2003 sales of $3.8 trillion. As the industry umbrella group, NRF also represents more than 100 state, national and international retail associations."
- Google: National Retail Foundation
and why does their opinion matter?I'm going to leave this as an exercise for the reader.
Like these people! Bastards.
Microsoft is leaving MacDonald's users out in the cold by only supporting Burger King's architecture.
I'd like to see Longhorn on Big Mac as well as Whopper.
For just yourself, you could try using your own set of links with the WebCollage component of XScreenSaver.
It is automated. RTFA. The pages automatically reload, or you can download scripts.
Their site features just about every grammatical mistake one can make.
English is not every person's first language.
They also accused me of stealing their bandwidth by going to their page. That seems to be a strange accusation coming from a group that is going out to crash other people's sites.
No they didn't. In fact they encourage people to, "...bookmark this site and revist us as often as possible", and, "link to us from your web site!".
Why is this guy's post modded "Informative"? I suppose wrong information is still informative, but jeez, people!
I was not amused to find that the graphical install does not work on my less than cutting edge system.
I was not amused further when I found out during the text install that selecting the option in Disk Druid to extend a partition to fill up the rest of the available space causes the install to crash.
After rebooting and entering in all the options again, I was able to install Fedora with no further issues.
After installation, I ran up2date which downloaded and installed the 120 some odd patches seemingly without a hitch, and was only somewhat hindered by the fact that the cron.daily and cron.weekly scripts decided near the end of the upgrade that it was suddenly time to execute, thus bringing the system to a screaching halt.
Finally, after the crons finished and up2date finally allowed me to click on the "Forward" button, I was able to log out and click "shutdown". It was at this point that the shutdown sequence promptly failed, and I was left staring at the blue Fedora background unable to log in and unable to switch to a virtual console. The three finger salute also failed to do anything productive, and I was forced to use the power button to make guacamole out of my filesystems.
All in all, I am quite a bit less than entirely thrilled with Fedora. YMMV.
You mean the Horta?
*pause*
Oh, crap! That was a geek trap, and I fell for it. Dammit!
Only if you make it that way. I typically make a partition for it on development machines, because compiles of ACE/TAO typically use up massive amounts of swap space. Just beware that if /tmp is on its own partition, it won't get cleaned up on reboot, so you might want to make a script for this. Likewise, for long running systems, you may want to create a cron job to clean up old files in /tmp once in a while - regardless of where /tmp is.
You look like you could use a Wet One. Wet one?
Scientists claim to have found the lost city of Atlantis, off the coast of Cyprus.
This has been speculated about for quite some time, as there are some ruins on Cyprus that "lead" into the ocean - pointing the way, if you will. However, I find it very hard to believe that Sarmast has located 48 of the 50 geographical features described by Plato. It would seem to me that the kind of upheaval described by Plato and other local legend would destroy quite a few more than 2 of those features.
"Hal, please open my bladder sphincter."
"Sorry, Dave, I can't do that."
*pop!* *splotsh!*
Except not believing in Jesus.
What makes you think heaven is contained within the universe? Maybe it's in another universe that doesn't have those silly laws.
i.e. not the way that Solyent Green is made of people.
You mean the Motorcycle Channel and the War Channel?
Don't forget the Redocorate Someone Else's Home Channel (i.e. TLC).
If I can just jump in here for a moment... He wasn't being inane. This is a fundamental concept in software engineering.
Let me ask you a quick question. This has to go off on a tangent for a bit, but bear with me, and then I'll get around to the PHP part...
Suppose you want to deallocate a socket connection when you are finished using it.
- In Java you usually do this by using a finalize block to close the socket.
- In C++ you close the socket in your destructor.
Q: Which method results in less leakage of resources?A: #2.
Why? Because the deallocation of the socket is implicit instead of explicit. In this case, the socket gets closed when your object goes out of scope. In #1 you need to remember to explicitly code a finally block, which places the burden of resource tracking on the programmer. With RAII, the burden is on the language.
Now what does this have to do with PHP? Well...
Q: Which results in no security issues?
- Initializing a variable.
- Turning register_globals OFF.
A: #2.Why? Because you don't have to explicitly remember to set a variable, all you need to do is turn register_globals off. In other words, the burden is no longer on the programmer.
Explicitly having to check sanity is bad programming practice when the language has means to implicitly do it for you. This is why most modern languages implement some sort of garbage collection and bounds checking.
In other words, do not create more work for yourself when security and stability are involved.
No kidding. I remember having to boot with extensions off to boot the OS 8 CD so I could install it.
You're just sick! That's why we like you.
...you get to put it together first!
And I always thought it was, "and to the Republic for Richard Stanz".
You learn something new everyday on Slashdot.
How do you connect peripherals? Oh wait...
That wasn't a "language card", although it was installed in the "language card" slot. The Apple Language Card had a ROM chip on it that contained the version of BASIC that wasn't installed in your machine by default. This was so that you could run Applesoft BASIC programs on an Apple II or Integer BASIC programs on an Apple II+ at the flip of a switch. What you got was a RAM expansion card.
You do realize that some games like MGS2 do much of their magic with scripting languages, right?
Please stop telling my fish that he doesn't need a bicycle.
Interestingly enough, Einstein's brain is really in a jar at Princeton. The professor who looks after it used to live across the street from my parents. He's a very interesting man.