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Sex.com Settles Case Against VeriSign
netcentr writes "A press release on CircleID has announced that the owner of the Sex.com domain name today has got 'a final settlement with VeriSign (formerly Network Solutions, Inc.), concluding a six-year legal fight that set several important precedents for the future of the Internet. After the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals granted Sex.Com a sweeping victory that held VeriSign/Network Solutions, Inc. (collectively "VeriSign") strictly responsible for mishandling the famous domain name, Sex.Com and VeriSign have settled Sex.Com's lawsuit against VeriSign.' Gary Kremen was awarded a $65 million judgment against Cohen for stealing the domain name, which the U.S. Supreme Court declined to overturn on June 12, 2003."
Ah... good thing they got that taken care of. I was so starved for pr0n for the last six years.
Really - like there aren't enough of these sites out there?
So the courts finally come out and say that sex should be on the internet!
Millions of smelly UNIX administrators breathe a sigh of relief.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Oh well $65 million for SEX (.com) has to be a new record...
:)
Even our former mayor of Cincinnati, didn't write a Check that.. good ol' Jerry Springer.
SEX (.com) has to be the most successful prostitution of a domain name yet
I love the fact that such a case with such a precident has happened over a site with such a same
Goooo Sex.com!!!!
Evolution or ID?
no more RTFA
Yeah, it completely astounds me how Verisign was unable to write a line of code which would have given the guy back his domain, which was clearly stolen from him.
Screw verisign, they suck. Without their monopoly they wouldn't have been able to extort people and give the shittiest service ever.
I hope it's for the full $65 Million.
I, for one, welcome our rightful sex.com overlords
VeriSign is bad news(for years thay would not let you put "fu*k" in your domain name)
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The base VeriSign site:
http://www.recallverisign.com
Check out this page by GoDaddy.com about VeriSign: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/PressReleases/inte
There are NEVER ENOUGH!
To quote Will Ferrel's Neal Diamond impression, "To quench my insatiable appetite for barely legal porno."
<insert obligatory paying for sex joke here>
until George Michael catches wind of this.
there is no such battle over intellect.com
Yeah, I guess I'm funny like that.
$65 Million? Are you telling me that's the amount of profit lost? Or that's the amount it cost to run the case through the courts..
I bet all the lawyers involved are smiling, You do know they aren't that stupid. The case could have been settled 5 years ago, but then how could lawyers make any money?
Good to see the U.S. Justice system at work.
Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right. --Isaac Asimov
http://www.narvakitchens.com/CircleID.pdf
Next up on the agenda for Rehnquist and company: goatse.cx v. .cx
I bet they thought being on the Court was going to involve dignity. OK, Thomas probably learned otherwise before he got his robe but the others likely did.
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
I wanted to register www.sex.orgy a loonnggg time back. But they wouldn't give me the extra 'y'.
Verisign itself bought the domain name "ohfuck.com".
The press release doesn't say whether it was the full $65million or some smaller amount, or how long Verisign would have to pay. Google News has pointers to one or two versions of the press release, plus Slashdot (:-), plus a Wired article that has the press release but also speculated that the settlement is probably a lot less than the full boat, and some comments on Kremen's attempts to track down the assets of Cohen the name thief.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
People do dumb things with computer.
Ca$h involved.
(*) (*) involved.
Sigh. This is like a really uninspired and boring cover of People vs. Larry Flynt, or something. Although I spse the courts get a collective huzzah for having their heads out of their asses for a change. But isn't the Appellate Court to corrupt business kind of like the UN is to corrupt nations (i.e., a joke)?
I havent checked that site for a long time and I just took a quick look at it. damn cant that guy hire a deceant web designer. while the other guy stole it at least it was asteticly pleasing.
Never could figure out why my girl liked my bitch tits, then I found out she was a lesbian.
Well, it's great that the good guys finally won and defeated the spectre of Verisign's vast incompentence and utter lack of responsibility, but SIX YEARS? I don't even want to think about the legal fees. There's definitely something wrong with our justice system when a stright-forward case of theft takes SIX years and millions of dollars to successfully prosecute.
I interviewed at sex.com or as they like to be known "deerfield communications". Place was run out of the basment of an abandoned building. Not realy what I was looking for in a job.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
But still Netsol not only shouldn't have let themselves get fooled, they should have fixed the problem promptly when they were notified about it.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
I heard a report about this recently. Just because you aren't getting any doesn't mean noone else should. Besides, the article was about a precedent setting internet law case, Slashdot is not pushing porn in any way.
This isn't a story about sex, it is a story about the internet. Unless you find the supreme court sexy...
1. Shut up
2. Make me a sandwich
My girlfriend and I are both technically feminists - it's actually illogical for a feminist to condemn porn. Why? Sure some porn is negative, but saying ALL porn is, is saying that it's impossible for a woman to enjoy her sexuality. You are perpetuating the very double standards you are trying to destroy.
If you cannot keep politics out of your moderation remove yourself from the Mod Lottery.. NOW!
You can find the decision by the United States Court of Appeal for the Ninth Circuit at:
Kremen, et al. v. Online Classifieds Inc., et al. (pdf warning)
To get the html version, paste this url:
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf
into the Adobe PDF Conversion Page.
Only Women Bleed (Sex, Sharia remix)
...how many subscriptions to MILFHunter you can buy with $65 million?
" This isn't a story about sex, it is a story about the internet. Unless you find the supreme court sexy..."
Well, that all depends. What are the Justices wearing under those robes.
Evolution or ID?
are also reported, and in my opinion they're a much worse activity for kids to be thinking about engaging in than sex. Besides, the Internet is for adults, you can't rely on a news website to keep your kids from seeing inappropriate content. If they were curious and simply typed the word 'sex' into an address bar, most browsers would automatically resolve to www.sex.com anyway. It's not like Slashdot is giving out the location of illegal kiddie porn or snuff flicks.
It was actually a joke from an earlier post. Thanks for feeding the troll though, bo.
Am I the only one who suspects that there was a lot more than just a phone call behind this? That people high up in Verisign must have been conspiring with Cohen? Why else go through so much to keep obviously stolen property from it's rightful owner? Why lie to the courts about a supposedly forged letter if you weren't covering for something much worse?
Well, thank f**ck they let me put fuck in my domain name! ;)
Very interesting.
.net and .com domain registry? I have a feeling ICANN might be looking to fill some positions soon.
Not all of the pieces of the puzzle are in place yet but it looks like VeriSign is finally being pegged as a state actor. What does that mean? Well, all of those annoying parts of the constitution that apply to governments, but not to private parties... might apply to them (little things... like... due process maybe?).
Further - if domain names are property (which is contrary to some lot of previous court precedent - partially based on the idea that domain names are only protected in so much as they are trademarks, which generally cannot be transferred without transferring the good will of the company behind the trademark) VeriSign has some further problems. When they bumble these things, not only are they violating the domain owners due process rights - but it might be a constitutional "taking" - requiring compensation.
Hopefully finding that VeriSign is a state actor, and that there is a property interest in a domain name - will be the final nail in SiteFinder's coffin (which essentially would be conversion of all of the unregistered domain names).
Anybody interested in being the
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I wish I had mod points so I could mod you up as "funny" and watch you get modded down three times as "overrated".
Excuse me, a proper Slashdot retort would have included some passing reference to the act of masterbation when talking about internet porn.
example:
No, I can surf with only one hand.
In future, please try to follow the Slashdot comedy guidelines!
How long before he transfers the domain?m en, Gary (SEX452-DOM)
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Domain Name: SEX.COM
Administrative Contact:
Kremen, Gary (GK3508) gkremen@AOL.COM
Grant Media, LLC
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415 647 5111 fax: 415 285 7111
Technical Contact:
Payne, Lewis De (LDP3) administrador@pkventures.com
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Domain servers in listed order:
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In capitalist America
65 million buy website.
In Soviet Russia,
65 million buy country.
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2. Make me a sandwich
If you insist...
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Poof! You are not a sandwich.
That's "No, I can't surf with only one hand you insensative clod!"
In this case use of the classic "Profit!!!" seems mandatory but also easy just like an "All your base" reference.
A "Soviet Russia" or maybe a "Beowulf cluster" comment done well though would really be nice.
I mean, as long as we're following the SCG's and all.
Appended to the end of comments you post. 120 chars.
At Slashdot, Anonymous Cowards make your profits for you, you insensitive clod.
Never confuse volume with power.
I've got to get that distro!
I haven't had 5 beers, and your spelling still looks horrible.
The key difference between a Programmer and a Senior Programmer is that one of them is Mexican.
but why would they need to settle if they had already been granted a judgement and the higher courts declined to hear the case?
Why should we care? This is obviously not something that will ever affect us geeks. Now, HabitualSelfPleasure.com, *there's* News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters.
I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."
Score one for the good guys...
...seriously...
It is also a landmark case because now we know who's had sex and who hasn't.
:-P )
(I'll just go back to playing my video games now. You know - the ones with the simulated sex.
Someone put a black hole in my pocket and now I'm broke.
This case reminds me of the IBM vs. SCO case, and the Microsoft vs. Sun case, and so many others, in that of all the attempts to monetize free software and the Internet, those most likely to be profitable are lawsuits. Will the Internet be the last new open range for grazing lawyers on Earth? What next, then; the moon? The sun?
Gary Dunn
Open Slate Project
I guess it makes sense that Verisign would wind up in the Ninth Circle. Oh, wait. That was Ninth Circuit.
Given the subject matter of the story, would mention of Natalie Portman (grits optional, temperature variable) be in order? What about a goatse reference?
*** Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?
Way to post an invalid URI, you insensitive clod! BTW, have you seen this site? I hear that it's CowboyNeal's home page.
where are my mod points when I need them....
That's right. All your base.
Check out this page by GoDaddy.com about VeriSign
He did say "hijack" and "Expedia", a travel company that sells plane tickets, in the same sentence.
Cut him some slack, jack!
Aww, DENIED! One spelling mistake and you've gone and ruined what would've otherwise been pretty funny; T and W aren't even adjacent on the keyboard, for shame!
Sex.com? I thought it was Slashdot, news for nerds, not news for perverted sociopathic deviants watching pornography who might find this news interesting in any--- Oh, wait a minute...
I had just started at a small recruiting shop and he was around in various unspecified capacities. We started talking one night and he was really excited about showing me how he owned sex.com. He did a whois, which had his name, then logged into the sex.com servers and poked around a little. He then bragged about the cashflow and the offers to buy from Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler.
He also asked all the secretaries to pose naked, used the company phones to call Nevada brothels for business advice and other shady activities.
I was later deposed as a witness for a sexual harassment case against the company because of his behavior (he was not an employee but rather an acquaintence of the owner) and the behavior of other sales people. The company's attorneys were in the process of searching for him at that time, which was around 2000 or 2001.
I can't wait for him to finally get caught. He reminds me of Robert Vesco; he's probably funding Al Queda or Russian prostitution rings or something now.
[stupid title size limit]
Make the above: "I worked with Steve Cohen weeks after he stole sex.com"
Ring them up and ask them.
This was within a couple of months of him getting the domain. He was bragging about how he owned it and how he'd already been offered a million dollars to sell it, but he was going to hold on to it because he thought it was worth a lot more.
Guess it was.
- Greg
Start a happiness pandemic
Place was run out of the basment of an abandoned building.
Yeah, that place was *so* abandoned... well, except for all the people that were working there!
...it was a fraudulent Sex change?
How The Grinch Stole Sex.com - a very funny flash cartoon with a little background on the story and the legal matter.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
fuck you feminazi
i cut your tits off and feed them to your father, you whore
Idiot - "Feminazi" is an 'extreme feminist' aka radical feminist, my girlfriend and I make fun of them
Oh and I'm a hetereosexual white male WASA (White Anglo-Saxon Atheist) - So I don't have tits to cut off, and since i've only had three partners in my life I guess im not a whore.
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Please stop telling my fish that he doesn't need a bicycle.
Show me on the doll where his noodly appendage touched you.
Being able to sue for millions of dollars is a *good* thing. 1) because they need to be smacked around for screwing people over and 2) they need to be hit hard enough that they don't do it again. So Europe wants to fine Microsoft $600 some million, whoop de frikkin do. Their business practices led them to their $40 billion pile of cash, so not only is that fine pocket change, they'll write it off as a business expense and keep doing the things that led to the fine in the first place.
Why is it that anti-regulation people see that having a economy where business's have all the rights of individuals + no regulations + no responsibility for their actions is A BAD THING?