I DO NOT want to go/come to the USA because of the current regime (not the average septic;o) ), however, I have still been forced to have one of these passports.
I called up the passport office to ask what would happen if I was in a foreign country and the chip failed, the answer:
"It will not happen".
I called twice, same f%&kin' answer!
I went into some detail about microwaves etc, but the monkette on the end of the phone was as dumb as dog do do, so it was a waste of time.
She did however say that
"...it can get damaged by being put through the wash...",
To which I interrupted:
Monkette: "So, it can get damaged?"
Monkette: "[Whoops mumble mumble] Only if you do the wrong thing with it. If you damaged normal passport you would have to get it replaced".
Me: "True, but I can at least see any physical damage to the passport. How can I tell if the chip is dead?"
Monkette: "They will check it before you board a flight"
Me: "So will I still be able to board?"
Monkette: "Probably not"
Me: "So, there goes my holiday?"
Monkette: "[mumble mumble]. It can't get damaged."
Me: "But you just told me it could!"
Monkette: "[Whoops mumble mumble]. You get a list of things which can damage it when you recieve it. [The End. That's the law. Tough shit. I care not.]"
F%4k You Alexander Downer! Arsehole!
From an Aussie/Pom who stupidly missed the non-epassport boat by a week(!) and ironically is going to use the passport for the first time to go to NZ.
So many times these tapes have been used to capture and convict criminals, like the London bombers etc, and you think helping these losers is a good thing?
You mean the one's that blew themselves up?
I'd like to see how "excellent" you think it is after someone beats the crap out of you, or rapes your daughter, your wife or bashes your son and they can't identify the criminal using the video that captured the entire incident because hackers have covered their identity.
I would rather that our enlightened leaders worked towards prevention rather than cure. It does not seem to be happening though, dispite the cameras.
My point was really that high pressure gas is transported a lot and there never seems to be auto accidents where the high pressure gas causes a problem.
In the generally anal about safety nanny states of the west, if this was an issue you would not be allowed to transport high pressure gas without a license and you do not need one for scuba diving.
Of course I may be wrong, but I would like some evidence.
riding on a 2000psi 4gal tank is very much like riding on a big pipe bomb.
If the 4gal tank is the empty volume/water capacity...
Don't be such a girlie man.
I regularily drive around with 2 12 L twinsets (2 x two 12L tanks joined together) at ~232 bar (thats 2 x 6.3 gal @ 3364 psi) and a few 5L stage tanks at ~200 bar (thats 1.3 Gal @ 2900 psi) containing mixes with >=50% oxygen in my car.
Do you think CEO types would be more or less corrupt if there was the possibility of spending a few years in a cell with someone who insists on them calling him daddy?
Personally, I think they should be made bankrupt (see below) and have to spend time in proper jail - no weekend release or special phone calls so they can still run businesses. After release they should be kept bankrupt until the employees who have lost their jobs as a result are fully compensated - with standard redundancy packages, all customers reimbursed for losses and all investors have been reimbursed. All "gifts" to spouses/friends/associates from around the time of the incidents have to be returned to the corrupt f**ker to help pay for it all.
That would stop a great deal of corruption me thinks.
yabut... with whitegoods I am not interested in a 6 month cycle. I want to know if it is still going to be working in 5, 10, 15 years time. Refregerators, washing machines, driers and the like are not going to be obsolete in 6 months like PCs and perhaps entertainment electronics may be (although even that is arguable).
With consumer reports you can get this sort of info and look at brands trends. Realistically, this is the only way it can be done.
I understand your point, but if you can withhold sarcasm for a moment, what are the odds that somewhere there are thousdands of men (and 7 women) masturbating to a fantasy scene of someone *pretending* to enjoy engineering a waste treatment facility and charging for viewing it.
So, masturbation is evil?
I find it fascinating, but mostly devastating, that as long as something isn't perceived socially as deviant or "hurting" anybody without their consent, that it's OK.
Absolutely. That is what a free society is about.
What would a "sex worker" be doing if {,s}he was not in porn movies?
What in your opinion is the better option?
At the end of the day, no matter how distasteful certain sections of society find it and just like "the drug problem", abortion, prostitution etc it is not going to go away (unless you start threatening people with the death penalty and the like - and do you really want that?) so is it not better that this is all legal and above board so that at least the worst sides of it can be controlled to a certain extent and the participents have a modicum of protection?
We should outlaw word processors because they could be used by terrorists to plot the use of weapons of mass destruction as well as create pro-terrorism web sites.
They are also used by pirates who steal intellectual property which threatens the very existance of the world, so really are just terrorists.
Not to mention kiddy fiddlers! How else to you think they communicate with each other! They use word processors of course!
We are sure of it all. Proof? trust us, why would be we lie!
Well, actually, when I was a poor student we did without heating and hotwater because we had a heating shower and boiled the kettle when we did the washing up (once... no, twice... maybe it was only once?).
My parents lived in Moscow for ~8 years and most Russians I {met,kn{e,o}w} said that the only reason Lenin was not as evil as Stalin was because he did not live long enough.
ADSL2+ is being installed in my exchange very soon and I am thinking about moving over to it, but a (non-technical) friend on their 1.5Mb plans has said they go down all the time.
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I DO NOT want to go/come to the USA because of the current regime (not the average septic ;o) ), however, I have still been forced to have one of these passports.
I called up the passport office to ask what would happen if I was in a foreign country and the chip failed, the answer:
"It will not happen".
I called twice, same f%&kin' answer!
I went into some detail about microwaves etc, but the monkette on the end of the phone was as dumb as dog do do, so it was a waste of time.
She did however say that
"...it can get damaged by being put through the wash...",
To which I interrupted:
Monkette: "So, it can get damaged?"
Monkette: "[Whoops mumble mumble] Only if you do the wrong thing with it. If you damaged normal passport you would have to get it replaced".
Me: "True, but I can at least see any physical damage to the passport. How can I tell if the chip is dead?"
Monkette: "They will check it before you board a flight"
Me: "So will I still be able to board?"
Monkette: "Probably not"
Me: "So, there goes my holiday?"
Monkette: "[mumble mumble]. It can't get damaged."
Me: "But you just told me it could!"
Monkette: "[Whoops mumble mumble]. You get a list of things which can damage it when you recieve it. [The End. That's the law. Tough shit. I care not.]"
F%4k You Alexander Downer! Arsehole!
From an Aussie/Pom who stupidly missed the non-epassport boat by a week(!) and ironically is going to use the passport for the first time to go to NZ.
Atom1: I just lost a proton!
Atom2: Stop being so negative!
Boom boom!
So many times these tapes have been used to capture and convict criminals, like the London bombers etc, and you think helping these losers is a good thing? You mean the one's that blew themselves up? I'd like to see how "excellent" you think it is after someone beats the crap out of you, or rapes your daughter, your wife or bashes your son and they can't identify the criminal using the video that captured the entire incident because hackers have covered their identity. I would rather that our enlightened leaders worked towards prevention rather than cure. It does not seem to be happening though, dispite the cameras.
Stop complaining, you are lucky. In English speaking countries people are starting to use grammer forms that are predominantly SMS.
You forgot to mention the benefit of the IBM PC being open to society as a whole.
If the IBM PC had been kept proprietary, would computing be as cheap and ubiquitous as it is today?
Only get worried if she starts talking to the static on the TV.
My point was really that high pressure gas is transported a lot and there never seems to be auto accidents where the high pressure gas causes a problem. In the generally anal about safety nanny states of the west, if this was an issue you would not be allowed to transport high pressure gas without a license and you do not need one for scuba diving. Of course I may be wrong, but I would like some evidence.
riding on a 2000psi 4gal tank is very much like riding on a big pipe bomb.
If the 4gal tank is the empty volume/water capacity...
Don't be such a girlie man.
I regularily drive around with 2 12 L twinsets (2 x two 12L tanks joined together) at ~232 bar (thats 2 x 6.3 gal @ 3364 psi) and a few 5L stage tanks at ~200 bar (thats 1.3 Gal @ 2900 psi) containing mixes with >=50% oxygen in my car.
The joys of scuba diving.
What does putting this guy in jail get anyone?
Are you serious?!?!
It is called "a deterent".
Do you think CEO types would be more or less corrupt if there was the possibility of spending a few years in a cell with someone who insists on them calling him daddy?
Personally, I think they should be made bankrupt (see below) and have to spend time in proper jail - no weekend release or special phone calls so they can still run businesses. After release they should be kept bankrupt until the employees who have lost their jobs as a result are fully compensated - with standard redundancy packages, all customers reimbursed for losses and all investors have been reimbursed. All "gifts" to spouses/friends/associates from around the time of the incidents have to be returned to the corrupt f**ker to help pay for it all.
That would stop a great deal of corruption me thinks.
... and the advertising industry utters a collective "shhhhh!" whilst holding a finger to their lips...
yabut... with whitegoods I am not interested in a 6 month cycle. I want to know if it is still going to be working in 5, 10, 15 years time. Refregerators, washing machines, driers and the like are not going to be obsolete in 6 months like PCs and perhaps entertainment electronics may be (although even that is arguable).
With consumer reports you can get this sort of info and look at brands trends. Realistically, this is the only way it can be done.
I understand your point, but if you can withhold sarcasm for a moment, what are the odds that somewhere there are thousdands of men (and 7 women) masturbating to a fantasy scene of someone *pretending* to enjoy engineering a waste treatment facility and charging for viewing it.
So, masturbation is evil?
I find it fascinating, but mostly devastating, that as long as something isn't perceived socially as deviant or "hurting" anybody without their consent, that it's OK.
Absolutely. That is what a free society is about.
What would a "sex worker" be doing if {,s}he was not in porn movies?
What in your opinion is the better option?
At the end of the day, no matter how distasteful certain sections of society find it and just like "the drug problem", abortion, prostitution etc it is not going to go away (unless you start threatening people with the death penalty and the like - and do you really want that?) so is it not better that this is all legal and above board so that at least the worst sides of it can be controlled to a certain extent and the participents have a modicum of protection?
what DO kangaroos eat, anyway?
ACs
http://www.answers.com/topic/accept 5b: To agree to take (a duty or responsibility). Fucknuckle.
I thnk you are overestimating things slightly.
I would suggest that all they care about is getting their measly pay packet and going home.
No!
We should outlaw word processors because they could be used by terrorists to plot the use of weapons of mass destruction as well as create pro-terrorism web sites.
They are also used by pirates who steal intellectual property which threatens the very existance of the world, so really are just terrorists.
Not to mention kiddy fiddlers! How else to you think they communicate with each other! They use word processors of course!
We are sure of it all. Proof? trust us, why would be we lie!
Ban word processor use by the general public now!
You will sleep safer at night!
In Korea only old people have BOTH gas and electric water heaters with reservoirs or tanks.
Boil t'kettle.
Well, actually, when I was a poor student we did without heating and hotwater because we had a heating shower and boiled the kettle when we did the washing up (once... no, twice... maybe it was only once?).
I have already patented that story line. You now owe me $5,000,000,000.
My parents lived in Moscow for ~8 years and most Russians I {met,kn{e,o}w} said that the only reason Lenin was not as evil as Stalin was because he did not live long enough.
You forgot...
"And too complex to have arisen without a designer."
We all owe "him" a license fee.
Or buggery.
large bomb-shaped object
You mean the black ball spherical object with a fuse coming out of the top?
How are you finding the reliability of iiNet?
ADSL2+ is being installed in my exchange very soon and I am thinking about moving over to it, but a (non-technical) friend on their 1.5Mb plans has said they go down all the time.
Is it?
I thought ID was...
"Life is very complicated. Too complicated for it to have just happened. Therefore it must have been designed."
SETI is looking for signals.
How are ID'ers looking for the designer?