" If the most popular station in LA couldn't afford these payments (if they were to be given the same rates), how is it expected that a internet radio station could."
They can't. And that's the point. CBS Radio, ClearChannel and FOX win. He loses.
They're not interested in actually getting these royalties. They're interested in protecting their already established FM and AM radio models. Where they choose what gets played and how many times.
Internet radio is screwing that up.
This law wasn't made to make them more money, this law was made to shut down Pandora, Last.fm and Live365.
Old school radio and royalty payment markets don't want you listening to streaming music on the internet. You might make an artist they don't control popular and rich and cheat them out of the millions they make when they can hold you captive listening to Britney Spears and Creed on the thousands of over-the-air stations that the big three broadcast corporations control.
Oy yeah, and they want to end competition to their new Satellite subscription radio model which is tanking badly.
Unless I'm completely off here (and I don't think I am), these new pricing structures do not apply to KROQ and other over-the-air stations. From what I can gather, KROQ is on 106 FM in Los Angeles. Their royalty payments will not change. Yours will go up 1300%.
This law aimed at shutting you down so no one listens to you and can only listen to KROQ via a traditional radio. If these rates go into effect and KROQ has a streaming channel in addition to their over-the-air broadcast, they'll shut off their internet stream (gladly). And they can rest easily knowing you can no longer compete with them with your internet station.
Of course if you wish to keep broadcasting on the internet once this law goes into effect there's a provision in it that allows the RIAA to negotiate a different royalty package for you, however this package will not allow you to pick your playlists. Your station will play what the RIAA tells you to play.
If this law isn't changed, your radio station is off the air in 22 days and will have to move outside of the United States and no longer play RIAA member music.
I don't think you're getting the point of this law. The corporations who support it don't run internet radio and they don't want it to continue. This is the easiest way for terrestrial radio companies to make "Internet Radio" illegal.
If it's too expensive for your to create and run "myradio.com" then everyone will be forced back to 97.9 FM and they can continue their monopoly of the airwaves.
Why let the corporations win? This is what they want. Internet silence? Why not march on Washington and demand that the people who represent us look out for OUR interests instead of the companies who run terrestrial radio stations?
I agree, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Wasn't it about 9 years ago that most PC's didn't even make the change themselves, you had to do it manually?
I just went out to my car and the clock was off an hour. Guess what? It started.
In Cook County (Chicago, IL) the assessors office has already been taking pictures from the street of the front facade of every property in the county for at least the last 7 years.
http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/
Amen to that!!! This is freakin' laughable. A company that sells software to protect against viruses has just created a VIRUS for a system that doesn't have ANY and for-which it's users have NO NEED for their product? LOL. Isn't this illegal?
Yes and Yes. All civil proceedings brought against him will be incurred by his estate which will most likely be held in probate until all matters are settled.
Exactly! This man obviously isn't thinking in a post 9/11 frame of mind, while under the rule of a wartime president. Nor is he thinking of the children.
"No, the point of the "reporting" was that Bush's C.O. had a crappy opinion of him, and they cited his supposed writings to prove the point. What a shock that no one in the C.O.'s family (even after his former subordinate became CinC!) ever actually said anything like the words that were being put into his mouth by a notably loopy guy with an axe to grind."
No, and here we go again, the point of the story was to let the public know that this candidate was AWOL from military duty during Vietnam and even though he had received an honorable discharge his military record is suspect to preferential treatment due to his fathers political position at the time and he was allowed to shirk his responsibilities due to cronyism. Meanwhile his oppenent actually did his tour of duty and served his country instead of hiding behind daddy to bail him out.
Those are the facts and they are not disputed nor proven to be untrue. There are gaps in his attendance, he was AWOL, he did not complete his duty nor submit to the medical evaluation and, for some reason, it was all forgiven and he was honorably discharged.
The fact that CBS ran with suspicious documents from a third party supporting this was not "the story".
"mouth breathers in middle America
Ah, now we see what you're made of. What a surprise! "
Yeah a concerned and pissed off middleclass American who watched a bunch of out of work medicaid recipients and Denny's waitresses vote in an administration which aims to destroy them and make them a permanent underclass because they think he's "one of them".
Not even CBS is claiming that their material in that case was factual (which is why they fired people).
You're almost as good as Fox News.
That's not the point of the story.
The fact of the matter is, the story CBS news reported WAS TRUE.
Again the only thing unethical about the story was the authenticity of the documents they obtained to report the story. It doesn't change that fact that what they were reporting was true and did actually happen.
But see of course you and Fox news want to turn the story into an argument of who forged documents and subsequently the mouth breathers in middle America buy this bullshit and vote the assclown into office a second time. Thinking Dan Rather is the asshole.
Again, the story there was Bush's Air National Guard record, and what they reported was true. The story was not how they came about the documentation.
">>"It smells authoritative and is treated that way by too many people"
>>You mean like Fox News?;-)
Well, more like CBS, but yeah."
Well not exactly, because CBS actually reports the truth and then is attacked over the methods they obtain this truth and subsequently are painted as suspect, even though what they're reporting is 100% truthful and based on fact.
You people (and by that I mean those who say Apple should welcome clones, or let Windows run on their hardware) have to realize one thing and that is; Apple's business model. And it is as such:
Create great software that sells our high margin hardware and never stray from that course.
iTunes and the iTunes music store exist solely to sell iPods
OS X, iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, Logic, and Final Cut exist solely to sell iMacs, PowerBooks, iBooks and G5 Towers.
Without the hardware, there is no Apple Computer. They make COMPUTERS not SOFTWARE.
No, they use the technology of the end user telling them where they are, there's no GPS or secret tech way of finding people. You text message Dodgeball.com that I'm at "Club Suds". It then sends out a text message to all of your friends on your list who have signed up that you're at "Club Suds". If they don't know where that is they'll have to ask you by replying to the text message and then you can text them back with directions.
The service will however comb it's database and find complete strangers who have also text'd their friends saying "I'm at Club Suds" too, so then you can find other people who have reported being at the same bar you're at.
But no, they (Dodgeball) have no way of actually determining where you are.
Amazingly, because of this system, perceived "higher priority/class" area's were given lower numbered area codes because they were quicker to dial on the rotary phone and would cause the user less aggravation and time (1 taking the shortest amount of time and 0 taking the most).
It's why New York is/was 212 and Chicago 312, etc.
909 would be considered the most unimportant place on the planet for the time.
The really privliaged and status hungry would beg, steal or borrow to attempt to get an old 5 digit number like 1-1111 or 1-1221.
That's not true at all. A number of office buildings in downtown Chicago use this type of system already. From Lake Michigan
I've looked for the last 15 minutes but can't find the link (after the unveiling I think they removed the documents describing this) that Northwestern University had up for their system, detailing how it was done.
Northwestern has been cooling many buildings on both their Evanston and Chicago campuses this way for at least the last 4 years.
It just goes to show us, he's as nuts and excited about technology as the rest of us are. (I'm sure at least half of/. if they were in the same position would mention how they got an e-mail like that out).
I think the problem is most people have forgotten (or weren't in the game) back when Best Buy came around. They weren't supposed to have "customer service". They came on the scene as a bare bones "warehouse club" for the masses. Their pitch was you would forego the sales help and customer service and after-sale care for getting your item from a shelf with nothing more than the help of a warehouse forklift operator. This would come at a savings in price.
Everyone took the bait and shortly thereafter they had put every single other vendor out of business. Everyone seemed to forget at what price they had sacrificed the service they were used to.
15 years ago we used to buy our appliances at regional or local stores that specialized in such things, who had full time trained sales people that knew the products and cared about helping people make the right purchases and who would support the items after the sales. Almost all of these places have been killed off by the Best Buy juggernaught.
Music used to be bought at "record stores", stereo's at home audio dealers, refrigerators and washing machines at appliance stores. There were many brands to choose from and the sales people at each store were educated in the products and customer service. They serviced the items after the sale too and even had trained and specialized installation people.
15 years later, the prices are no better than they used to be before Best Buy, demand has brought a staff and support services to the chain, but they are nothing close to what they've replaced. Our greed and trying to save a buck has brought us to where we are today, selection of the three brands that happen to make it to their shelf, sales from minimum wage employee's on their fist job who know little if nothing about what it is they're selling and contracted support staff operating on a bare minimum price quote where it's become more cost effective to just throw the item away and sell new.
We reap what we sow, and hopefully someday the pendulum will swing the other way and the days of the small appliance store or the mom and pop record store will return.
Nope, not odd at all. I'm the same, except I just use Mac OS X.
Matter of fact, I've been using Mac OS of one flavor or another since 1992 and other than version upgrades, which were done as "updates/upgrades" and not "fresh" or "clean" installs, I don't think I've ever but maybe twice had to do a complete re-install of the OS.
My "old" machine (purchased 1999) is still up and running as a server now and has never been wiped or reinstalled and my current machine (purchased 2002) is running OS X and has never been wiped or reinstalled either. The new one came with 10.1 and has been upgraded to 10.2 and 10.3. I've never turned the machine off since the day I set it up and have done nothing to it other than restarted it when necessary. Oh wait, I defragged the hard drive once about a year and a half ago, but other than that, nothing.
I've never had to re-install any of the applications either.
I've never played Morrowind, so I don't know what the data size is on it's saves, but I think, after a year and half of ownership, the HDD in the Xbox is a waste.
It's caching feature is probably nice for speeding up play, but I hardly ever notice it's being used, most games still stall and access the CD during gameplay. As far as downloadable content, I don't know what games the rest of you are playing but I've yet to run into a single one thats bigger than 2Mb, but then again, maybe I don't understand their size meter, even still, if I'm off by one thousand, the biggest one (based on speed of download over my DSL line) couldn't be more than 20Mb.
I've played over 11 titles in the last year, and all of their associated "saves" and data and downloaded content and updates are on my HDD and I've even ripped 3 CD's into my soundtrack section and I've YET to put a dent in my available space level at the dashboard. It's still at 500000. Perhaps space is more of an issue for those doing illegal things with their consoles like stealing games? But using it the way it was intended (no mods, store bought software titles, and Xbox Live downloaded content) it would take quite an effort to start filling up that hard disk.
I think the game with the most updates I have is Ghost Recon II Island Thunder (9 new maps), and it's total data space, including saves and updates, on my Xbox HDD is under 5 (or 50?) Mb.
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" If the most popular station in LA couldn't afford these payments (if they were to be given the same rates), how is it expected that a internet radio station could."
They can't. And that's the point. CBS Radio, ClearChannel and FOX win. He loses.
They're not interested in actually getting these royalties. They're interested in protecting their already established FM and AM radio models. Where they choose what gets played and how many times.
Internet radio is screwing that up.
This law wasn't made to make them more money, this law was made to shut down Pandora, Last.fm and Live365.
Old school radio and royalty payment markets don't want you listening to streaming music on the internet. You might make an artist they don't control popular and rich and cheat them out of the millions they make when they can hold you captive listening to Britney Spears and Creed on the thousands of over-the-air stations that the big three broadcast corporations control.
Oy yeah, and they want to end competition to their new Satellite subscription radio model which is tanking badly.
Unless I'm completely off here (and I don't think I am), these new pricing structures do not apply to KROQ and other over-the-air stations. From what I can gather, KROQ is on 106 FM in Los Angeles. Their royalty payments will not change. Yours will go up 1300%.
This law aimed at shutting you down so no one listens to you and can only listen to KROQ via a traditional radio. If these rates go into effect and KROQ has a streaming channel in addition to their over-the-air broadcast, they'll shut off their internet stream (gladly). And they can rest easily knowing you can no longer compete with them with your internet station.
Of course if you wish to keep broadcasting on the internet once this law goes into effect there's a provision in it that allows the RIAA to negotiate a different royalty package for you, however this package will not allow you to pick your playlists. Your station will play what the RIAA tells you to play.
If this law isn't changed, your radio station is off the air in 22 days and will have to move outside of the United States and no longer play RIAA member music.
I don't think you're getting the point of this law. The corporations who support it don't run internet radio and they don't want it to continue. This is the easiest way for terrestrial radio companies to make "Internet Radio" illegal. If it's too expensive for your to create and run "myradio.com" then everyone will be forced back to 97.9 FM and they can continue their monopoly of the airwaves.
Why let the corporations win? This is what they want. Internet silence? Why not march on Washington and demand that the people who represent us look out for OUR interests instead of the companies who run terrestrial radio stations?
I'm so tired of watching congress protect the corporations from the people. It's supposed to be the other way around!
I just went out to my car and the clock was off an hour. Guess what? It started.
In Cook County (Chicago, IL) the assessors office has already been taking pictures from the street of the front facade of every property in the county for at least the last 7 years. http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/
Amen to that!!! This is freakin' laughable. A company that sells software to protect against viruses has just created a VIRUS for a system that doesn't have ANY and for-which it's users have NO NEED for their product? LOL. Isn't this illegal?
nope, the opposite, no distribution to heirs until all claims against it are settled.
Yes and Yes. All civil proceedings brought against him will be incurred by his estate which will most likely be held in probate until all matters are settled.
Exactly! This man obviously isn't thinking in a post 9/11 frame of mind, while under the rule of a wartime president. Nor is he thinking of the children.
No, and here we go again, the point of the story was to let the public know that this candidate was AWOL from military duty during Vietnam and even though he had received an honorable discharge his military record is suspect to preferential treatment due to his fathers political position at the time and he was allowed to shirk his responsibilities due to cronyism. Meanwhile his oppenent actually did his tour of duty and served his country instead of hiding behind daddy to bail him out.
Those are the facts and they are not disputed nor proven to be untrue. There are gaps in his attendance, he was AWOL, he did not complete his duty nor submit to the medical evaluation and, for some reason, it was all forgiven and he was honorably discharged.
The fact that CBS ran with suspicious documents from a third party supporting this was not "the story".
"mouth breathers in middle America
Ah, now we see what you're made of. What a surprise! "
Yeah a concerned and pissed off middleclass American who watched a bunch of out of work medicaid recipients and Denny's waitresses vote in an administration which aims to destroy them and make them a permanent underclass because they think he's "one of them".
You're almost as good as Fox News.
That's not the point of the story.
The fact of the matter is, the story CBS news reported WAS TRUE.
Again the only thing unethical about the story was the authenticity of the documents they obtained to report the story. It doesn't change that fact that what they were reporting was true and did actually happen.
But see of course you and Fox news want to turn the story into an argument of who forged documents and subsequently the mouth breathers in middle America buy this bullshit and vote the assclown into office a second time. Thinking Dan Rather is the asshole.
Again, the story there was Bush's Air National Guard record, and what they reported was true. The story was not how they came about the documentation.
>>You mean like Fox News? ;-)
Well, more like CBS, but yeah."
Well not exactly, because CBS actually reports the truth and then is attacked over the methods they obtain this truth and subsequently are painted as suspect, even though what they're reporting is 100% truthful and based on fact.
Fox news just flat out lies.
"It smells authoritative and is treated that way by too many people"
;-)
You mean like Fox News?
Create great software that sells our high margin hardware and never stray from that course.
iTunes and the iTunes music store exist solely to sell iPods
OS X, iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, Logic, and Final Cut exist solely to sell iMacs, PowerBooks, iBooks and G5 Towers.
Without the hardware, there is no Apple Computer. They make COMPUTERS not SOFTWARE.
The service will however comb it's database and find complete strangers who have also text'd their friends saying "I'm at Club Suds" too, so then you can find other people who have reported being at the same bar you're at.
But no, they (Dodgeball) have no way of actually determining where you are.
It's why New York is/was 212 and Chicago 312, etc.
909 would be considered the most unimportant place on the planet for the time.
The really privliaged and status hungry would beg, steal or borrow to attempt to get an old 5 digit number like 1-1111 or 1-1221.
I've looked for the last 15 minutes but can't find the link (after the unveiling I think they removed the documents describing this) that Northwestern University had up for their system, detailing how it was done.
Northwestern has been cooling many buildings on both their Evanston and Chicago campuses this way for at least the last 4 years.
It just goes to show us, he's as nuts and excited about technology as the rest of us are. (I'm sure at least half of /. if they were in the same position would mention how they got an e-mail like that out).
Everyone took the bait and shortly thereafter they had put every single other vendor out of business. Everyone seemed to forget at what price they had sacrificed the service they were used to.
15 years ago we used to buy our appliances at regional or local stores that specialized in such things, who had full time trained sales people that knew the products and cared about helping people make the right purchases and who would support the items after the sales. Almost all of these places have been killed off by the Best Buy juggernaught.
Music used to be bought at "record stores", stereo's at home audio dealers, refrigerators and washing machines at appliance stores. There were many brands to choose from and the sales people at each store were educated in the products and customer service. They serviced the items after the sale too and even had trained and specialized installation people.
15 years later, the prices are no better than they used to be before Best Buy, demand has brought a staff and support services to the chain, but they are nothing close to what they've replaced. Our greed and trying to save a buck has brought us to where we are today, selection of the three brands that happen to make it to their shelf, sales from minimum wage employee's on their fist job who know little if nothing about what it is they're selling and contracted support staff operating on a bare minimum price quote where it's become more cost effective to just throw the item away and sell new.
We reap what we sow, and hopefully someday the pendulum will swing the other way and the days of the small appliance store or the mom and pop record store will return.
Matter of fact, I've been using Mac OS of one flavor or another since 1992 and other than version upgrades, which were done as "updates/upgrades" and not "fresh" or "clean" installs, I don't think I've ever but maybe twice had to do a complete re-install of the OS.
My "old" machine (purchased 1999) is still up and running as a server now and has never been wiped or reinstalled and my current machine (purchased 2002) is running OS X and has never been wiped or reinstalled either. The new one came with 10.1 and has been upgraded to 10.2 and 10.3. I've never turned the machine off since the day I set it up and have done nothing to it other than restarted it when necessary. Oh wait, I defragged the hard drive once about a year and a half ago, but other than that, nothing.
I've never had to re-install any of the applications either.
They're Mac's; they just work!
It's caching feature is probably nice for speeding up play, but I hardly ever notice it's being used, most games still stall and access the CD during gameplay. As far as downloadable content, I don't know what games the rest of you are playing but I've yet to run into a single one thats bigger than 2Mb, but then again, maybe I don't understand their size meter, even still, if I'm off by one thousand, the biggest one (based on speed of download over my DSL line) couldn't be more than 20Mb.
I've played over 11 titles in the last year, and all of their associated "saves" and data and downloaded content and updates are on my HDD and I've even ripped 3 CD's into my soundtrack section and I've YET to put a dent in my available space level at the dashboard. It's still at 500000. Perhaps space is more of an issue for those doing illegal things with their consoles like stealing games? But using it the way it was intended (no mods, store bought software titles, and Xbox Live downloaded content) it would take quite an effort to start filling up that hard disk.
I think the game with the most updates I have is Ghost Recon II Island Thunder (9 new maps), and it's total data space, including saves and updates, on my Xbox HDD is under 5 (or 50?) Mb.