ok, ok, you can put XP on a PII-233 with 64 Meg o ram.. sure,
how about making it reliable enough to be an integral part of your network?
let me know when xp can run on an intel strongarm Yes, in know, Windows CE, it dosent count, I cannot nativly compile code on ce that compiles on XP, you f$cked up the API.
and yes, most linux PDAs run OPIE and its not the same API that most linux desktops use, the point is that they can run X if they want to.
first of, it goes without saying misrosoft is pure evil.
Personal bias aside: Microsoft is going to go out of buisness.
Google is poised to take over the desktop market (if not globaly, then domesticly at least).
Think about it, nobody wants a computer, they want a web browser and an office suite. If google can put OpenOffice online, then suddenly all people need is a thin client that can handle PPPoE/DHCP have a USB port for a memory key and an embedded web browser. If you have access to that 2 Gig of gmail space from the online office, you can drop the mem key. And there are embedded systems booting of 64Meg flash drives that run linux and firefox today! I feel we are on the virge of a descktop revolution, poised to regress to the client/server model of times gone. Sure hackers, gear heads and gamers will keep their power systems, but your average CPA and her 12yo son will be happy with a thin client that takes up no more room than a LCD monitor, and a playstation 2.
Yea, but you wont belive the preformace diff, I dont see that much of a preformace problem on my HT P4 3Ghz.
I personaly belive that after they get and can keep the compatability, then they will start tightening up preformance.
Actualy, that what I think the google devs are there for, Abstract out the functions and make the GUI load quick on a web site while the backend stays running. Can anyone say "Client/Server model Office app"?
Oh no... Osama is going to recruit Aliens from Alpha Centauri!
{Cut to white house}
Jr.: The alient threat is real, as a first step to bring democracy to Alpha century, american forces have invaded the moon, currently the trrorist forces are hiding out in caves, we are then going to push on to mars, and then on to spreading democracy to every corner of the galaxy.
nah... I think that the USPTO needs more power and involvment... as well as $$$. Give them the power to put a patent in review, and dont let any legal action be taken on patents in review. Dont penalise them for being under funded, fund them and empower them. I dont like big government as much as the next guy, but patents are allready powerfull, the institution that governs them needs to be equaly powerful.
Well, at least Microsoft does some work for their money. Not that they do it well, but at least they arent just tring to milk a heavily underfunded and poorly construed patent system.
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers". - (Henry IV (Act IV, Scene II))
I am a sys admin for a small atlanta ga ISP, when Level3 de-peered you dialup users that were connecting to Level3 POPs couldnt connect, our call center was flooded and we were scrambling like mad to switch everone over to the Aligence Telcom POPs. L3 really needs to think about the broader ramifications of their actions.
Also, The internet is suposed to be dynamicaly routed, ya know BGP3 and so on. Why did this break so many things? If the route was down, shouldnt the routers just use the next best preffered?
I know its a completely diffrent preception between consumer and corporate, but GE has ben doing this on their aircraft jet engines for years. Companies that use it save lots of money on repair maintanance. Thanks to statistical analasis, they can tell that a few degree anomoly in section X means that panel A needs to be re-laminated, instead of having to replace 20 broken parts. I wonder how in-depth GMs onboard diag system will get.
I personaly dont have a problem at all with this, with 2 caveats: 1. I can completely turn it off 2. The government keeps their hands off of it
Thats very true, but ive had friends that can roll their own batteries. A lot of people dont realise that inside the hard plastic are normal cells. If you are fortunante enough to live somewhere where they have a battries pluss, they can do custom jobs, but normaly its more expicive, not less.
Some modern beteries intentionaly cease working after X number of charge / load cycles (the bastards), I had a friend at GaTech that had a Digital Camera with a "proprietary" battery like that. I think it was a Cannon. Not sure of the specifics, im no harware hacker, but he was able to re-wire it so that it looked like it was the same cycle count all the time.
Greedy corporate bastards.
To answer your post with a quote from it: "science changes". As our understanding of the universe increases, so does our understanding of what has already been learned. The bible is absolute. Its denotation is firm and un-changeable. The only flexibility is in connotation that those who preach its word give.
My point is: It is a grievous error to state fact when you should be proposing hypothesis.
The standardising of laptops has happened as much as it is going to happen. Not because big brand computer retailers want to nececarily, but because they are all hiring the same company in Tiawan. The video cards are MCM (or somthing like that) They all have MiniPCI slots and the same antene hookups for WiFi All the modems are that same funky little board with the dual surface mount plugs and anoyying little 2 pair socket. Of course the memory and HDD have been standard for a long time (Even those seemingly proprietary (old)IBM, its a standardd drive in a metal casse with a pass through connector)
All the CD Drives, are one of 2 or 3 standaards with custom plastic on them, get a new one that matches, swap the plastic. Same woth floppy driveee (those lucky to have them internal these days. And most of them (both cdrom and floppy) are Mitsumi.
Its the real corporate duche bags that decide to use proprietary lockouts in the bios (Ive heard of HP and Dell, probably more) most notably on WiFi cards that ruin it for us.
On modern laptops, you can swap out most of the hardware there, some even have a socket for the CPU so you can upgrade it too (My old Sony VAIO).
I have many logitech devices.
1 trackball, several mice, some optical.
I even have an old Logitech Bus Mouse labeled "Hi Res" with 3 real mouse buttons from my 386 16
I have open all of them at one point or another, never with any dificulty.
Im just curious what device you had that was so difficult.
Please research you topcis before flaming. Windows NT 3.5, 4, 2000, XP, 2003, longhorn all have no dos incororated into their kernel at all. You may be confused about the difrence between the DOS Operating System and the command interpreter, as they are normaly packaged together.
Also, fyi, before it was called Windows NT, it was called IBM OS/2. For more clarification on the geneology of M$, look at http://www.jmusheneaux.com/index0B.htm it is a nice graphical tree of the evolution de-evolution of M$ OSs'
I am running the 2.6.10 kernel, i have no issues at all compiling the Nvidia drivers. I use NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1 fyi. I do manualy un-tar and make;make install, and cp nvidia.ko/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/video/ Please ask around before making baseless flames.
Please, stay on topic, take your political statememnts to http://politics.slashdot.org/ this is http://science.slashdot.org/ . oh, and please no slippery slope rebuttal logic.
I think Prince Harry has the Naszi thing taken care of.
But seriously, in the current market model, an exchange of property results in a zero net effect. Only on-line, in the realm of data, can an even exchange result in a two fold net effect.
The internet should be a liberating mechanisim for artists and philosophers (I would group OSS developers somewhere between artist and philosopher). The internet should be a tase of true freedom, and these poloticians are going to turn it into a locked down controlled enviroment. control and freedom are inpersly proportional
Great... This is just what i need. I work on hte IBM Thinkpad Helpdesk. I just know were gonna be flodded with calles from every one that had a thinkpad, affected or not, is gonna call in, ignore the "how to tell" and wanna just wanna "make shure". Not that i reall blame them, i mean, burning and melting, jeez, but its gonna give us at least a week or two of 20+ sec hold times.
We (me personale and the shop i work in) have been using Quick Tech Pro from Ultra-X. Its a british company, and their stuff is not cheap. They have full blown hardware diagnostic boards, but all i use is the software. It accuratly identifes problems on all PCs ive run it on. Our copy is from when AMD K5 was the fastest processor out there, and it is shtill very relevat and helpull, it preforms a litany of tests and provides very detailed information.
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SS numbers werent suiposed to be a form of ID, the way the old laws are written up, its hard to do it.
Plus, all the old fogies that remember it will go "HA! I knew you were gonna do it to us" when in fact they allready have done it to us.
ok, ok, you can put XP on a PII-233 with 64 Meg o ram.. sure,
how about making it reliable enough to be an integral part of your network?
let me know when xp can run on an intel strongarm
Yes, in know, Windows CE, it dosent count, I cannot nativly compile code on ce that compiles on XP, you f$cked up the API.
and yes, most linux PDAs run OPIE and its not the same API that most linux desktops use, the point is that they can run X if they want to.
Anyone else smell FUD?
first of, it goes without saying misrosoft is pure evil.
Personal bias aside:
Microsoft is going to go out of buisness.
Google is poised to take over the desktop market
(if not globaly, then domesticly at least).
Think about it, nobody wants a computer, they want a web browser and an office suite.
If google can put OpenOffice online, then suddenly all people need is a thin client that can handle PPPoE/DHCP have a USB port for a memory key
and an embedded web browser. If you have access to that 2 Gig of gmail space from the online office, you can drop the mem key. And there are embedded systems booting of 64Meg flash drives that run linux and firefox today! I feel we are on the virge of a descktop revolution, poised to regress to the client/server model of times gone. Sure hackers, gear heads and gamers will keep their power systems, but your average CPA and her 12yo son will be happy with a thin client that takes up no more room than a LCD monitor, and a playstation 2.
Yea, but you wont belive the preformace diff, I dont see that much of a preformace problem on my HT P4 3Ghz.
I personaly belive that after they get and can keep the compatability, then they will start tightening up preformance.
Actualy, that what I think the google devs are there for, Abstract out the functions and make the GUI load quick on a web site while the backend stays running. Can anyone say "Client/Server model Office app"?
Oh no... Osama is going to recruit Aliens from Alpha Centauri!
{Cut to white house}
Jr.: The alient threat is real, as a first step to bring democracy to Alpha century, american forces have invaded the moon, currently the trrorist forces are hiding out in caves, we are then going to push on to mars, and then on to spreading democracy to every corner of the galaxy.
old-fashioned? you said C, not Assembler or 8086 Machine code.
:-D
If what you want is to learn, Assembler is what you want to use.
Then after you have learned, use whats convienient. There isnt anything you cant do with javascript, php, perl, and C++.
nah...
I think that the USPTO needs more power and involvment... as well as $$$.
Give them the power to put a patent in review, and dont let any legal action
be taken on patents in review. Dont penalise them for being under funded,
fund them and empower them. I dont like big government as much as the next guy,
but patents are allready powerfull, the institution that governs them
needs to be equaly powerful.
Well, at least Microsoft does some work for their money.
Not that they do it well, but at least they arent just
tring to milk a heavily underfunded and poorly construed
patent system.
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers". - (Henry IV (Act IV, Scene II))
Wow, thats the best ive ever seen it explained, thankyou.
This guy is BS, only thing worse is that he is modded informative-- mod it down
I am a sys admin for a small atlanta ga ISP, when Level3 de-peered you dialup users that were connecting to Level3 POPs couldnt connect, our call center was flooded and we were scrambling like mad to switch everone over to the Aligence Telcom POPs. L3 really needs to think about the broader ramifications of their actions.
Also, The internet is suposed to be dynamicaly routed, ya know BGP3 and so on. Why did this break so many things? If the route was down, shouldnt the routers just use the next best preffered?
With the ratification and licincing of 802.11i by the FCC, a tiny investment of $2 billion can cover the entire US woith 60Meg WiFi.
Not the densly populated areas.
Every square foot of it.
WiFi Anywhere.
This is from a Buisness Plan study conducted at a large college, Ga Tech I think.
I know its a completely diffrent preception between consumer and corporate, but GE has ben doing this on their aircraft jet engines for years. Companies that use it save lots of money on repair maintanance. Thanks to statistical analasis, they can tell that a few degree anomoly in section X means that panel A needs to be re-laminated, instead of having to replace 20 broken parts.
I wonder how in-depth GMs onboard diag system will get.
I personaly dont have a problem at all with this, with 2 caveats:
1. I can completely turn it off
2. The government keeps their hands off of it
Thats very true, but ive had friends that can roll their own batteries. A lot of people dont realise that inside the hard plastic are normal cells. If you are fortunante enough to live somewhere where they have a battries pluss, they can do custom jobs, but normaly its more expicive, not less. Some modern beteries intentionaly cease working after X number of charge / load cycles (the bastards), I had a friend at GaTech that had a Digital Camera with a "proprietary" battery like that. I think it was a Cannon. Not sure of the specifics, im no harware hacker, but he was able to re-wire it so that it looked like it was the same cycle count all the time. Greedy corporate bastards.
To answer your post with a quote from it: "science changes". As our understanding of the universe increases, so does our understanding of what has already been learned. The bible is absolute. Its denotation is firm and un-changeable. The only flexibility is in connotation that those who preach its word give.
My point is: It is a grievous error to state fact when you should be proposing hypothesis.
The standardising of laptops has happened as much as it is going to happen.
Not because big brand computer retailers want to nececarily, but because they are all hiring the same company in Tiawan.
The video cards are MCM (or somthing like that)
They all have MiniPCI slots and the same antene hookups for WiFi
All the modems are that same funky little board with the dual surface mount plugs and anoyying little 2 pair socket.
Of course the memory and HDD have been standard for a long time (Even those seemingly proprietary (old)IBM, its a standardd drive in a metal casse with a pass through connector)
All the CD Drives, are one of 2 or 3 standaards with custom plastic on them, get a new one that matches, swap the plastic. Same woth floppy driveee (those lucky to have them internal these days. And most of them (both cdrom and floppy) are Mitsumi.
Its the real corporate duche bags that decide to use proprietary lockouts in the bios (Ive heard of HP and Dell, probably more) most notably on WiFi cards that ruin it for us.
On modern laptops, you can swap out most of the hardware there, some even have a socket for the CPU so you can upgrade it too (My old Sony VAIO).
I have many logitech devices. 1 trackball, several mice, some optical. I even have an old Logitech Bus Mouse labeled "Hi Res" with 3 real mouse buttons from my 386 16 I have open all of them at one point or another, never with any dificulty. Im just curious what device you had that was so difficult.
I second Ckwop's opinion on this.
Is anyone doing independant QA audits of linux, outside of the development sources/bug report/linus ruling on high loop?
Please research you topcis before flaming. Windows NT 3.5, 4, 2000, XP, 2003, longhorn all have no dos incororated into their kernel at all. You may be confused about the difrence between the DOS Operating System and the command interpreter, as they are normaly packaged together. Also, fyi, before it was called Windows NT, it was called IBM OS/2. For more clarification on the geneology of M$, look at http://www.jmusheneaux.com/index0B.htm it is a nice graphical tree of the evolution de-evolution of M$ OSs'
I am running the 2.6.10 kernel, i have no issues at all compiling the Nvidia drivers. I use NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1 fyi. I do manualy un-tar and make;make install, and cp nvidia.ko /lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/drivers/video/ Please ask around before making baseless flames.
Please, stay on topic, take your political statememnts to http://politics.slashdot.org/ this is http://science.slashdot.org/ . oh, and please no slippery slope rebuttal logic.
I think Prince Harry has the Naszi thing taken care of.
But seriously, in the current market model, an exchange of property results in a zero net effect. Only on-line, in the realm of data, can an even exchange result in a two fold net effect.
The internet should be a liberating mechanisim for artists and philosophers (I would group OSS developers somewhere between artist and philosopher). The internet should be a tase of true freedom, and these poloticians are going to turn it into a locked down controlled enviroment. control and freedom are inpersly proportional
If you controll me, im not free.
The Matrix has you.....
Great... This is just what i need. I work on hte IBM Thinkpad Helpdesk. I just know were gonna be flodded with calles from every one that had a thinkpad, affected or not, is gonna call in, ignore the "how to tell" and wanna just wanna "make shure". Not that i reall blame them, i mean, burning and melting, jeez, but its gonna give us at least a week or two of 20+ sec hold times.
We (me personale and the shop i work in) have been using Quick Tech Pro from Ultra-X. Its a british company, and their stuff is not cheap. They have full blown hardware diagnostic boards, but all i use is the software. It accuratly identifes problems on all PCs ive run it on. Our copy is from when AMD K5 was the fastest processor out there, and it is shtill very relevat and helpull, it preforms a litany of tests and provides very detailed information.
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